S10.E01: Under Construction

[notnowimbusy]

Terry's outrage over David's comments seemed so staged to me.  It's like something he grabbed onto,never expecting David to apologize, and when he did, Terry just kept going with the script.  Really the "I literally lost two months of sleep". . . if it was bothering him so much, why didn't he call David.   And honestly what Eddie said was much cruder, but he gave him a pass because they were friends?????   If Terry didn't have David's comment, what else did he have to talk about?

[OhGromit]

I hope Heather and Terry put a gift shop and Starbucks just inside their front door.  It'll really finish off the soulless Orange County feel of that hulking blob of nouveau riche they call a house. 

[Missmissie173]

Lynne motherfucking Curtin ladies and gentlemen. Tamra must be truly on the outs if she had to dust off the Queen of Cuff Bracelets Lynne and pass her off as a good friend. Good gawd and one of her girls has spawned. Last I heard both of those girls were involved in adult entertainment somehow. Lynne looked pretty damn good I have to say. Wonder how she is paying for facial upkeep.

Ryan's instragam cougar looks amazing at 9 months pregnant. I really am dying to know her real age.

I hope they fixed the floors at CUT Fitness before inviting over that ragtag group of invitees. That is just asking for a big ass lawsuit.

David had an affair? I am shocked - said no one ever. I don't know if I can go a whole 'nother season of Shannon picking at the bloody scab of a marriage.

I noticed that Heather now knows the french name to motor court and her and her hubby dropped it about 5 times or so. Funny. They found a way to be even more pretentious about it. That house is gonna to have all the warmth and coziness of a convention center. Way to be subtle on how expensive everything is Heather. Dropping $20k on one bathroom? Even your kids got balconies? I admit that house porn is the shit I live for on these shows but I hate her 14 bathroom counting hypocrisy. She ragged on Alexis for much less.

Megan looks like a stick bug. Funny how much shit a woman will put up with to be married to a famous athlete. He treats her like shit. But according to her he knows her soul, understands her feelings and is gracious meanwhile cameras capture him he talking down and belittling her while his daughter looks on and laughs. LOL!! Girl, he is missing his wedding ring, ain't really looking for it and is out of town a lot. Oh not to mention a famous athelete who has girl throwing the panty drawers at him. Please see David and Shannon's relationship woes. That dinner kiss attempt was embarrassing. You can tell she felt like shit about it.

Can't even with Brooks and Vicki. I'm taking this Brooks is faking cancer thing lightly until it is proven or he confesses because hell, it all originates from Brianna.

LMAO - some of the best lines ever.  I am funny, but you are FUNNY!  Makes me happy that I started watching this trainwreck and found this forum - thanks so much!

[slitz]

 She and Heather took it pretty hard Shannon won the Favorite Real Housewife.     

 

I'm sorry but is there an article or something where they (Gramballs and Heather) were quoted saying they were upset about this or someone saw them grimacing or bitching about it?  I mean, Gramballs I can see being upset what with her having to be the "Hottest Housewife in the OC" but Heather?  I just don't see that.

[motorcitymom65]

Heather wrote something in one of her blogs last year that always stayed with me. It was from the blog that she wrote right after the episode where she asked Shannon to leave her home. That blog was written in June, just a couple of months after Shannon says she learned of the affair:

"Tamra has told me many personal things over the years. I am a very good secret keeper. Shannon has also told me some very sensitive, personal things since that time and I have NEVER repeated them, not even to Terry. I was told about the email on camera so I assumed it wasn't a topic that was off limits."

It was hard for me to figure out why Shannon would have been sharing anything personal with Heather ever after all that went down, and made me think they must have perhaps become a bit closer to each other after filming ended than it looked or that they portrayed. My guess is that she told Heather this info at some point. I also think that we will see a very different relationship this season between Heather and Shannon.

[psychoticstate]

My second thought after Rosemary's Baby...was that Lynn would pull a folding table out of there along with her Kelly Bensimon glue gun and cuffs.

 

Save me a seat in hell...I'll bring popcorn

 

You bring popcorn, I'll bring margaritas!  It will be a fun bus ride.

[bravofan27]

Shannon is 51

Edited June 11, 2015 by bravofan27

[Missmissie173]

I guess it's scary for some to be "60 and alone." (Not me. Losing my sex drive was like toilet training my kids. The jail was open!), but I think Shannon is more concerned about an assymetrical Christmas card picture.

It's too bad that she doesn't consider the reality that a better relationship with her kids is miles ahead of whatever she has with David. She couldn't be more alone now if she tried.

How old is Shannon?

[KungFuBunny]

You bring popcorn, I'll bring margaritas!  It will be a fun bus ride.

I'm gonna also bring 2 pairs of those glasses you wear in case there is a solar eclipse...one for you one for me.

 

This is to protect our eyes, in case Grampon decides on having another Hot Tub scene with Eddie and her newest boobs

[Missmissie173]

I guess it's scary for some to be "60 and alone." (Not me. Losing my sex drive was like toilet training my kids. The jail was open!), but I think Shannon is more concerned about an assymetrical Christmas card picture.

It's too bad that she doesn't consider the reality that a better relationship with her kids is miles ahead of whatever she has with David. She couldn't be more alone now if she tried.

How old is Shannon?

[bravofan27]

I just watched the clip of the furniture shopping. Jim does not seem happy about spending money, and he is a little annoyed about it. My husband acts the same way when it comes to making big purchases. Engagement ring shopping was a nightmare. Then again, I'm always in panic mode at Best Buy.  Men just sometimes don't get how important things are, and think it's just about money. I think it was sweet of him though to notice something that his daughter might like-- he does seem very close to his daughter. I'm still thinking that his major connection with Meghan is her attachment to his daughter and being there to keep her company. But I also get that Meghan is sad that is she is doing all these things without him and she feels she has a separate life. That's rough.

Tamra went to a different surgeon for her breast implants. Does that mean she and Terry are on the outs?

[KungFuBunny]

I just watched the clip of the furniture shopping. Jim does not seem happy about spending money, and he is a little annoyed about it. My husband acts the same way when it comes to making big purchases. Engagement ring shopping was a nightmare. Then again, I'm always in panic mode at Best Buy.  Men just sometimes don't get how important things are, and think it's just about money. I think it was sweet of him though to notice something that his daughter might like-- he does seem very close to his daughter. I'm still thinking that his major connection with Meghan is her attachment to his daughter and being there to keep her company. But I also get that Meghan is sad that is she is doing all these things without him and she feels she has a separate life. That's rough.

Tamra went to a different surgeon for her breast implants. Does that mean she and Terry are on the outs?

Terry offered to do Tamra's boobs for free if she appeared as a patient on Botched.

Tampon was offended and declined.

 

Ba dum dum...

[joobie]

Don't know if this was posted or not but Meghan appeared on Say yes to the Dress and would only spend $5,000 because Jim was buying the dress for her and she didn't want to take advantage. She seemed really sweet in that episode. I was a big Jimmy Edmonds fan when I had him on my fantasy team and he hit quite a few homers and racked up a lot of rbis but I never heard he was a nice guy. Sorry if this was already posted. I no longer watch any of the Housewives shows as they all suck but I still catch up with everything on these boards. It's like I quit cigarettes but now vape.Someday I will wean myself completely.

 

Thank you to all for all the links and updates.

[zoeysmom]

I'm sorry but is there an article or something where they (Gramballs and Heather) were quoted saying they were upset about this or someone saw them grimacing or bitching about it?  I mean, Gramballs I can see being upset what with her having to be the "Hottest Housewife in the OC" but Heather?  I just don't see that.

When someone from your franchise wins the top prize and you call it "fun" you are diminishing the free publicity for your franchise. That is Heather's way of dismissing it. BTW none of the ladies were overly gracious. All in all I think Heather, terry and Tamra believed Shannon got a lot of attention last year and fan/viewer support.

[zoeysmom]

Heather wrote something in one of her blogs last year that always stayed with me. It was from the blog that she wrote right after the episode where she asked Shannon to leave her home. That blog was written in June, just a couple of months after Shannon says she learned of the affair:

"Tamra has told me many personal things over the years. I am a very good secret keeper. Shannon has also told me some very sensitive, personal things since that time and I have NEVER repeated them, not even to Terry. I was told about the email on camera so I assumed it wasn't a topic that was off limits."

It was hard for me to figure out why Shannon would have been sharing anything personal with Heather ever after all that went down, and made me think they must have perhaps become a bit closer to each other after filming ended than it looked or that they portrayed. My guess is that she told Heather this info at some point. I also think that we will see a very different relationship this season between Heather and Shannon.

I am doubting she confided in the Dubrows about her husband's affair once she found out. My guess is Heather and Tamra will claim she did. In any event Heather never got it she was caught with her pants down spreading the news and then tried o back peddle and diminish her words. The viewers did not forgive she or her husband for being mean.

I think the line producers probably tell the others what is going on after the contacts are signed. It sounded as if Shannon hd some hesitation about going back. My guess is neither Heather or Tamra wanted to be filmed discussing it in a gossipy fashion.  For some reason they started filming late this year.  Last year it was filming in October this year closer to February.

[motorcitymom65]

I am doubting she confided in the Dubrows about her husband's affair once she found out. My guess is Heather and Tamra will claim she did. In any event Heather never got it she was caught with her pants down spreading the news and then tried o back peddle and diminish her words. The viewers did not forgive she or her husband for being mean.

I think the line producers probably tell the others what is going on after the contacts are signed. It sounded as if Shannon hd some hesitation about going back. My guess is neither Heather or Tamra wanted to be filmed discussing it in a gossipy fashion.  For some reason they started filming late this year.  Last year it was filming in October this year closer to February.

The thing that was interesting was that Shannon never denied this in her blogs. If you read her blogs from last year, and I am referring to a blog that Heather wrote last season) she was careful to call out anything that Heather said that was not true or a contradiction - whether Heather said it in a blog or on the show. She never denied this so it stuck with me. I can believe that at some point - maybe in frustration Shannon shared it with Heather. Heather was very quiet and easy on Shannon at the reuinon. Others were saying that she didn't really defend herself or have much to say and that Shannon "owned" her. It did look that way. Terry didn't come out looking so good. I could be wrong, but it fits with Heather knowing about it while Terry did not.

[goofygirl]

Oh Lord. Shannon's already crying and making that oogly face to David. Can it go down from there? Probably.

GRAMBALL has new boobs, yet again. My gosh, that's HOW MANY TIMES THIS IDIOT HAS HER BOOBS WORKED ON?

Is this just a "storyline" for her? Sure seems like it. Pretty soon, the Dr. will just insert a zipper under each boob and let her perform her own surgery. "I Like BIG! I like LITTLE! I like PEAR SHAPE!!" Ugh. Just get off my teevee. I'm sick and tired of your old dumb ass.

And speaking of old dumb asses.. The VIckster's HAIR actually looks better this year. Not quite so fried. But as usual, Vicki just can't seem to get it in her head that Crooks has the Big C and the only thing that the Big C likes less is someone who GIVES UP and QUITS FIGHTING. What the fuckety fuck kind of WACK thinking is that? Yeah, Vicks, EVERYBODY who has EVER had cancer and DIED from it, JUST GAVE UP.

Quelle idiot. I just CAN"T with that shit. Seriously.

[zoeysmom]

The thing that was interesting was that Shannon never denied this in her blogs. If you read her blogs from last year, and I am referring to a blog that Heather wrote last season) she was careful to call out anything that Heather said that was not true or a contradiction - whether Heather said it in a blog or on the show. She never denied this so it stuck with me. I can believe that at some point - maybe in frustration Shannon shared it with Heather. Heather was very quiet and easy on Shannon at the reuinon. Others were saying that she didn't really defend herself or have much to say and that Shannon "owned" her. It did look that way. Terry didn't come out looking so good. I could be wrong, but it fits with Heather knowing about it while Terry did not.

Heather's blog is vague and ambiguous since what time?  I am thinking that they did not speak after the finale and until the Reunion,  Just from the time frame it doesn't seem likely Shannon was sharing prior to the Reunion and obviously she could not share before Shannon knew.  If I were Shannon I would not bother to comment one way or another. Heather could be speaking of something totally different than an affair.  I just don't think she shared an affair that she would have not know about.  I am not saying there weren't other affairs and I do believe it is pretty easy after listening to those two bicker at the dinner party to throw that he is cheating out here.  Couple that with the Meghan encounter and tongues were waging.  Vicki has denied affairs and claimed reconciliations for years. 

 

Didn't Heather say very early on, at the scary make-up party that Shannon was too candid about her marriage?  I think Shannon had said something to the effect they had never been out of town together sine the kids were born.  Heather was appalled at Shannon's transparency.  Of ourse if it was just talking heads it might have been inserted long after Heather threw Shannon out.

 

No proof here but I am wondering if perhaps David's banging interest was the mother of a student at the school Heather and Shannon's kids attend?

[notnowimbusy]

Tamra's boobs need a show of their own.  I'm so tired of her trying to compare herself to younger women.   Eddie shows more interest in his bike than he does about her.  I hate her screechy voice, and crude comments. 

 

Shannon must have had a clue that David was having some sort of affair.  He doesn't seem the type to leave, but rather he's waiting for her to make a decision.  He's done, done, done.  

[AnnaMayWong]

Oh Lord. Shannon's already crying and making that oogly face to David. Can it go down from there? Probably.

GRAMBALL has new boobs, yet again. My gosh, that's HOW MANY TIMES THIS IDIOT HAS HER BOOBS WORKED ON?

Is this just a "storyline" for her? Sure seems like it. Pretty soon, the Dr. will just insert a zipper under each boob and let her perform her own surgery. "I Like BIG! I like LITTLE! I like PEAR SHAPE!!" Ugh. Just get off my teevee. I'm sick and tired of your old dumb ass.

And speaking of old dumb asses.. The VIckster's HAIR actually looks better this year. Not quite so fried. But as usual, Vicki just can't seem to get it in her head that Crooks has the Big C and the only thing that the Big C likes less is someone who GIVES UP and QUITS FIGHTING. What the fuckety fuck kind of WACK thinking is that? Yeah, Vicks, EVERYBODY who has EVER had cancer and DIED from it, JUST GAVE UP.

Quelle idiot. I just CAN"T with that shit. Seriously.

Oh, golly! Haha! This is TOO funny! The mental visuals WITH THE ZIPPERS! Whoo!

[maggiemae]

My father had NHL like Brooks and survived for 6 years......he didn't appear sick at the time, even with the chemo. Drove himself actually, and didn't loose his hair. But the chemo can get you......as it did in his case.

 

But that was years ago....and long after Jackie Kennedy Onassis died from it.....and the medical advancements continue.

 

Actually, I think Vicki is very concerned but not giving up. 

 

But it was the first episode and I would have preferred Bravo easing into the drama a little.

 

Plus I could care less what size of boobs Tamra has or her reasons for up/down grading them.

[candall]

I've always disliked Tamra Barney more than any other person-I've-never-met.  The screeching, the calculating, the satisfaction of shoving her knife directly into someone's tender spot.  I've seen many instances of her beady little eyes gleaming with pleasure as she ran the gamut from rude to vicious. 

 

I laughed when she proposed that people had turned against her. . ."because of my honesty."

 

But this nth boob job is so pathetic that I feel sorry for the woman.  Is her self-worth so connected to those tits being big/small/high/wide/topped off/BETTER or is she just desperate enough for a show hook to let someone slice through all that scar tissue again?

 

Oh, wait.  I just remembered a former acquaintance who married a BH plastic surgeon and became so casual about surgical enhancements, she asked him to do a lipo when she felt a little bloat-y after their vacation. (True story.) 

 

L.A. is not my world.  Never mind.

 

The mispronunciation of Porte Cochere was surprising to me as Heather was always so proper and pompous.

A bit of mules in horse's harness.

Not surprising to me.  Faux Posh has yet to meet an object pronoun she could handle.  "It's the perfect home for he and I."

 

I hope Heather and Terry put a gift shop and Starbucks just inside their front door.

This gave me an L-O-L.  Perfect!  "I'll have a venti latte, extra hot, no foam.  Do you have a bathroom?"

Edited June 13, 2015 by candall

[Lucille]

No proof here but I am wondering if perhaps David's banging interest was the mother of a student at the school Heather and Shannon's kids attend?

I'm sure he has his pick (even with that voice!).  If the queen of ballbusters wanted to save her marriage, advertising her cute, rich, unhappy husband on Ho Wives was not the way to go.

 

Edited June 13, 2015 by Lucille

[KungFuBunny]

Tamra has a creepy son.

 

I agree...seriously....like Put The Lotion In The Basket creepy

[MatildaMoody]

 

Regarding the affair, I knew last season he was having affair. The eye opening moment for me was when they were out to dinner on their romantic weekend and he started to criticize her sagging boobs, asking if she was going to do anything about them.

 

Not to defend the cheater here, but David didn't insult her breasts. Shannon insulted her breasts while fishing for additional compliments. Remember, he complimented her on her dress. She said that he just liked it because it showed off her breasts and he agreed. Then she said something about them sagging and he agreed. Not whole heartedly, just in an whatever you say kind of way. I actually thought that scene was hilarious. Because I always think it's funny when someone goes fishing for a compliment and it backfires on them.

[charming]

I don't think he had just one affair that was caused by her nagging.

 

I got the impression he's been having affairs for years. Shannon seemed to be doing this show to somehow spice up her life and fill some kind of void she had. It's interesting that David, knowing they would be on TV, decided to cheat. He's being very Ben Affleck level passive aggressive. 

 

Shannon, like a lot of women, can't see herself without being married and is willing to be miserable to keep that image intact. I hope she realizes one day that she can be happy and fulfilled without marriage. Even if it doesn't mesh with her idea of a perfect life.

[slitz]

When someone from your franchise wins the top prize and you call it "fun" you are diminishing the free publicity for your franchise. That is Heather's way of dismissing it. BTW none of the ladies were overly gracious. All in all I think Heather, terry and Tamra believed Shannon got a lot of attention last year and fan/viewer support.

 

But isn't that just what it is, a fun contest?  I mean, it's not like we're talking about The Nobel Prize here.  It's a fun poll/contest and should be taken in such a manner.  I guess I'm just not seeing how Heather calling it "fun" is her dismissing it.  But I understand that everyone may not have the same opinion, so no harm no foul!  :)

 

Edited for spelling.

Edited June 12, 2015 by slitz

[motorcitymom65]

 

So Shannon knew that the affair would become public and weighed the pros and cons of defending their marriage>  http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/shannon-beador-reveals-how-she-survived-davids-devastating-affair--2015106

 

 

IMO this is just a little bit sick. The idea that they thought it might become public means nothing to me with regard to actually putting it on TV and letting the world watch. Jeana said on the anniversary show that the biggest surprise about this show was in how folks would come up to you all the time and talk to you like they knew you. She said she had to learn to get to the airport very early because it was going to take her a long time to get to her plane because of all the random people stopping to chat her up. How fun for Shannon's daughters to be out at dinner with mom and dad and know that even if folks are not commenting on it to them directly, everyone is looking and knowing what is going on in their lives because they felt like it was their duty to help others. So now their teachers all know, their coaches all know, everyone knows what they discussed at their marriage boot-camp. IMO it is different if this stuff comes up organically or after the fact. If another HW brings the topic up, then you have to deal with it because that is what you signed up for. In this case she is making it clear that she made the decision to come back and let the whole world in on her sad marriage. Really, however, it goes along with what she said when she joined the show. That she had a bad marriage and that she hoped seeing it all play back would be a wakeup call for David (and for her). That is just so completely fucked up to me in so many ways I cannot even fully wrap my head around it.

 

And she had to bring her parents into it? Again another HW throwing her parents out there to be analyzed. Remember when Tamra did that a few years ago? People were livid. How dare she do that to her mother. Shannon is doing the exact same thing, while saying in her blog that she now has a great relationship with her mom (which is exactly what Tamra said after trashing her mother). 

 

I struggle with Shannon more than any other HW. There is so much there to like and I felt like she got treated badly last year (although not to the extent that others believe). I also think, however, that she has some real problems - I'm talking big ones - bigger than maybe we've seen before. I know the word narcissist is thrown around like crazy here and on other forums, but for her to actually believe that it is OK for her to put her kids through this because she might help other people? Really? She is on a reality TV show. If she is at the point where she really thinks she can make a dramatic difference in the lives of others than she is largely fooling herself. Maybe go volunteer at a shelter or something. 

[Higgins]

OMG Shannon and David

I guess one could had suspected at last season's reunion when the flirting subject came up about David and Vicki there was some trouble. Shannon looked so uncomfortable then. Now this happens. Shannon says divorce is not an option because of what divorce did to her as a child, but man, what does that do to real young daughters who has to see their parents possibly stay in a unhappy marriage... As much as I like Shannon I do recognize it takes two to tango and she has her faults too. Shannon has a problems not trusting David and biting his head off from time to time. Like when someone comes home from work they dont want to be yelled at or racked through the coals. UGH. I do want them to work it out but if it cant be fixed it cant be fixed IMO. They might have to go separate ways if this couple's therapy doesnt work.

Cancer does suck. Im no Brooks cheerleader but I wouldnt wish cancer on the worse person alive. Vicki and Brooks have their issues but this is her man. She knows if it doesnt work out it will all fall on her shoulders. And what a crappy thing for Biana to say "He doesnt look sick." Well there are a lot of people who have HIV but dont look sick neither. As a nurse I thought she'd have better sense than that. I get she doesnt like him for good reason but that was ignorant. And hearing Vicki talk to her mom was another sucky moment especially a foreshadow for whats to come.

Meghan is definitely pretty shes probably the most attractive HW Ive seen since Joanna Krupa. Jim seems to get quickly annoyed by her. I dont have much of an opinion now but I have to give her a few more episodes to develop an impression of her.

Tamra another boob job. Who cares we know this is the OC thing to do. And what a good surprise to see the hot mess known as Lynne Curtin! She looks good and shes a grandmother. No shock there. Her daughters are fast and out of control when they were on OC.

Heather did nothing but talk about her 14 bathrooms ... Ok... is she building a mall or a mansion?? Im sorry but no one needs that many toilets even if you are rich as hell.

Really liked the first episode to kick off its 10 season! This is definitely going be better than last season from the looks of it.

Sometimes an affair is a wakeup call. You can have a successful happy marriage post affair. A long term marriage has ups and downs. Nobody is perfect.

[motorcitymom65]

Sometimes an affair is a wakeup call. You can have a successful happy marriage post affair. A long term marriage has ups and downs. Nobody is perfect.

Absolutely, but these shows seem to be hard on marriages that are already in trouble. We shall see and fingers crossed for the best, but it doesn't look good. 

[bravofan27]

The more Shannon says that divorce is not an option the more David is going to withdraw. Why stop his fun sex if his wife is always going to be there? She needs to threaten him with divorce, mean it, and start making him realize why he needs her. Otherwise, she will forever be taken for granted and David will never care. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

L.A. is not my world.  Never mind.

These people aren't representative of L.A. and OC residents any more than Mickey and Minnie are representative of Anaheim residents.

[zoeysmom]

IMO this is just a little bit sick. The idea that they thought it might become public means nothing to me with regard to actually putting it on TV and letting the world watch. Jeana said on the anniversary show that the biggest surprise about this show was in how folks would come up to you all the time and talk to you like they knew you. She said she had to learn to get to the airport very early because it was going to take her a long time to get to her plane because of all the random people stopping to chat her up. How fun for Shannon's daughters to be out at dinner with mom and dad and know that even if folks are not commenting on it to them directly, everyone is looking and knowing what is going on in their lives because they felt like it was their duty to help others. So now their teachers all know, their coaches all know, everyone knows what they discussed at their marriage boot-camp. IMO it is different if this stuff comes up organically or after the fact. If another HW brings the topic up, then you have to deal with it because that is what you signed up for. In this case she is making it clear that she made the decision to come back and let the whole world in on her sad marriage. Really, however, it goes along with what she said when she joined the show. That she had a bad marriage and that she hoped seeing it all play back would be a wakeup call for David (and for her). That is just so completely fucked up to me in so many ways I cannot even fully wrap my head around it.

 

And she had to bring her parents into it? Again another HW throwing her parents out there to be analyzed. Remember when Tamra did that a few years ago? People were livid. How dare she do that to her mother. Shannon is doing the exact same thing, while saying in her blog that she now has a great relationship with her mom (which is exactly what Tamra said after trashing her mother). 

 

I struggle with Shannon more than any other HW. There is so much there to like and I felt like she got treated badly last year (although not to the extent that others believe). I also think, however, that she has some real problems - I'm talking big ones - bigger than maybe we've seen before. I know the word narcissist is thrown around like crazy here and on other forums, but for her to actually believe that it is OK for her to put her kids through this because she might help other people? Really? She is on a reality TV show. If she is at the point where she really thinks she can make a dramatic difference in the lives of others than she is largely fooling herself. Maybe go volunteer at a shelter or something. 

I liked last year's Shannon better.  I do appreciate she is willing to work on saving her marriage.  We have seen too many on this show where the women just walk away justify leaving is best for the family because their happiness is paramount to all others.  Vicki, Tamra, Lynne, Peggy (claims she is divorcing for BK reasons) have all seemed to have some consequences or regrets due to their decisions to divorce.  So it is a different look.  There is always the chance David or Shannon's commitment may waiver.

 

I do think Shannon has some issues and I think she is incredibly ridged  which does make for a good TV character but tough to grow up with as a kid or be married to.  I also think she is gullible and contradictory. Shannon reminds me of Betty Draper - only less passionate - I never thought I would use Betty Draper and passion in the same sentence.  Betty Draper showed more passion during the spin cycle on her Maytag than Shannon showed towards David last season. 

[motorcitymom65]

I liked last year's Shannon better.  I do appreciate she is willing to work on saving her marriage.  We have seen too many on this show where the women just walk away justify leaving is best for the family because their happiness is paramount to all others.  Vicki, Tamra, Lynne, Peggy (claims she is divorcing for BK reasons) have all seemed to have some consequences or regrets due to their decisions to divorce.  So it is a different look.  There is always the chance David or Shannon's commitment may waiver.

 

I do think Shannon has some issues and I think she is incredibly ridged  which does make for a good TV character but tough to grow up with as a kid or be married to.  I also think she is gullible and contradictory. Shannon reminds me of Betty Draper - only less passionate - I never thought I would use Betty Draper and passion in the same sentence.  Betty Draper showed more passion during the spin cycle on her Maytag than Shannon showed towards David last season.

I'm with you there. I appreciate that the divorce of her parents made saving her marriage important. I have all the respect in the world for that. The thing is, she found out about the affair last April, and yet they waited to do this marriage boot camp deal until filming began in January. I watched her Twitter feed often, and it was filled with happy pictures and messages of date nights and how lucky she was to be married to David. All the while they were going through this hell that they waited to address until the cameras started rolling again. Why not take care of all that before the season started? She could have still talked about the challenges in their marriage and that they had worked through them and continued to do so. Yet she waits to put it on TV for her kids to see, not to mention her mother, who is probably in her 70's. How horrific to hear your child talk about you with such pain for all the world to see. I can imagine nothing more terrible as Shannon's mom, or as her children.

[IKnowRight]

I liked last year's Shannon better.  I do appreciate she is willing to work on saving her marriage.  We have seen too many on this show where the women just walk away justify leaving is best for the family because their happiness is paramount to all others.  Vicki, Tamra, Lynne, Peggy (claims she is divorcing for BK reasons) have all seemed to have some consequences or regrets due to their decisions to divorce.  So it is a different look.  There is always the chance David or Shannon's commitment may waiver.

 

I do think Shannon has some issues and I think she is incredibly ridged  which does make for a good TV character but tough to grow up with as a kid or be married to.  I also think she is gullible and contradictory. Shannon reminds me of Betty Draper - only less passionate - I never thought I would use Betty Draper and passion in the same sentence.  Betty Draper showed more passion during the spin cycle on her Maytag than Shannon showed towards David last season.

Wow! That is an excellent comparison, I'm a (was) a Mad Men junkie! Yes, Shannon = Betty! Let's just hope for Shannon's sake that David only had 1 affair and isn't like Don Draper, good grief, that would be something. Both women turned into Ice Queens while roaming around feeling isolated while their husbands were at work. (Or with their side pieces). Desparate for attention, the loneliness was making them crazy...they started nagging, and the viscous cycle continues...

[nexxie]

Tamra has a creepy son.

He has a creepy mother.

[AnnA]

I don't know about the rest of you but I was very disappointed in the first episode.

[WireWrap]

I'm with you there. I appreciate that the divorce of her parents made saving her marriage important. I have all the respect in the world for that. The thing is, she found out about the affair last April, and yet they waited to do this marriage boot camp deal until filming began in January. I watched her Twitter feed often, and it was filled with happy pictures and messages of date nights and how lucky she was to be married to David. All the while they were going through this hell that they waited to address until the cameras started rolling again. Why not take care of all that before the season started? She could have still talked about the challenges in their marriage and that they had worked through them and continued to do so. Yet she waits to put it on TV for her kids to see, not to mention her mother, who is probably in her 70's. How horrific to hear your child talk about you with such pain for all the world to see. I can imagine nothing more terrible as Shannon's mom, or as her children.

 David moved out during last seasons filming, maybe it happened then but they did not want to reveal back then and went with it this season. She was pretty hysterical when he moved out, much more so for the excuse they gave at the time IMO.

Wow! That is an excellent comparison, I'm a (was) a Mad Men junkie! Yes, Shannon = Betty! Let's just hope for Shannon's sake that David only had 1 affair and isn't like Don Draper, good grief, that would be something. Both women turned into Ice Queens while roaming around feeling isolated while their husbands were at work. (Or with their side pieces). Desparate for attention, the loneliness was making them crazy...they started nagging, and the viscous cycle continues...

I get the feeling that Shannon has been desperate for attention and a nag from the get go, not just since the affair. JMO though.

I don't know about the rest of you but I was very disappointed in the first episode.

ITA!! LOL So far they are all annoying IMO.

[candall]

These people aren't representative of L.A. and OC residents any more than Mickey and Minnie are representative of Anaheim residents.

Well, but in some ways they are.  I started out suggesting that Tamra's multiple breast procedures must spring from some emotional deficit, but then I thought about the three years I kept in touch with the Midwestern woman who married the plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills.  She definitely had multiple breast procedures and she became very casual about surgical enhancements and corrections.  (As were the women in her new social set.)  So I retracted my dimestore psychology and concluded it probably wasn't that bizarre-o after all, for a certain L.A. demographic.

 

I mean, within the distorted context of reality television, these ladies are a little bit more representative of Southern California than Omaha, right?

[athousandclowns]

Screw you Vicki. Brooks has to tell her he went to City Of Hope and they want to do two treatments? She asks if he will have them when she is in Florida? She has to ask will you loose your hair? If you loose the will to live, you die. Fuck you. As someone who was at every oncologist appointment and every chemo with "her man" and never did I feel compelled to roll my eyes and sigh because he was throwing up and make it about how hard it is to see.

If this is fake I will never watch another Andy Cohen show and will open a twitter account so I can harass him.

Rant over. I want Shannon to leave the crystals and goof ball bi weekly doctor appointments and get a grip. I like them both but not much hope there.

What pray tell could be putting formula on the table for Lynnn's grandchild? Did cuffs make a return to fashion and I missed it?

[Grneyedldy]

Well, but in some ways they are.  I started out suggesting that Tamra's multiple breast procedures must spring from some emotional deficit, but then I thought about the three years I kept in touch with the Midwestern woman who married the plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills.  She definitely had multiple breast procedures and she became very casual about surgical enhancements and corrections.  (As were the women in her new social set.)  So I retracted my dimestore psychology and concluded it probably wasn't that bizarre-o after all, for a certain L.A. demographic.

 

I mean, within the distorted context of reality television, these ladies are a little bit more representative of Southern California than Omaha, right?

Yes stereotypes usually have a basis whether we like it or not.

[zoeysmom]

I'm with you there. I appreciate that the divorce of her parents made saving her marriage important. I have all the respect in the world for that. The thing is, she found out about the affair last April, and yet they waited to do this marriage boot camp deal until filming began in January. I watched her Twitter feed often, and it was filled with happy pictures and messages of date nights and how lucky she was to be married to David. All the while they were going through this hell that they waited to address until the cameras started rolling again. Why not take care of all that before the season started? She could have still talked about the challenges in their marriage and that they had worked through them and continued to do so. Yet she waits to put it on TV for her kids to see, not to mention her mother, who is probably in her 70's. How horrific to hear your child talk about you with such pain for all the world to see. I can imagine nothing more terrible as Shannon's mom, or as her children.

I think a lot of the scenes were filmed earlier.  January became a restart date because of the crumbling of the Hamilton marriage. 

 

It seems Shannon found out April 1st, he moved out for two weeks, he moved back in, just in time for the Season 9 premiere.  Sounded like she got her wish and they spent time together Hawaii, the kids went away over the summer and the decision was made to do the show.  I am guessing that they needed to do a lot of work and this marriage workshop is probably one of many tools this couple used. I hope for the sake of the kids there is no talk of having the children too soon. There seems to be an undercurrent of religion this year -  Tamra getting baptized, the Beadors talking about going to church, Hamiltons religious commitment.  They have kind of come full circle  from the days of mocking Alexis.

Edited June 13, 2015 by zoeysmom

[motorcitymom65]

I think a lot of the scenes were filmed earlier.  January became a restart date because of the crumbling of the Hamilton marriage. 

 

It seems Shannon found out April 1st, he moved out for two weeks, he moved back in, just in time for the Season 9 premiere.  Sounded like she got her wish and they spent time together Hawaii, the kids went away over the summer and the decision was made to do the show.  I am guessing that they needed to do a lot of work and this marriage workshop is probably one of many tools this couple used. I hope for the sake of the kids there is no talk of having the children too soon. There seems to be an undercurrent of religion this year -  Tamra getting baptized, the Beadors talking about going to church, Hamiltons religious commitment.  They have kind of come full circle  from the days of mocking Alexis.

I hope they don't bring the kids into it too much. She had already said in one of her first episodes that they had the kids right away and that they never had the chance to really click as a couple because of that. 

 

On her fake headstone, it lists the date of her death as January, 2015, so I don't think these scenes were filmed any earlier. Didn't the Hamilton stuff happen in February? I do tend to get the dates mixed up. It looks like we will meet Katie soon, which should proved interesting. 

[SCS]

What pray tell could be putting formula on the table for Lynnn's grandchild? Did cuffs make a return to fashion and I missed it?

Possibly Lynn's mother? She appeared in at least 1 episode and had what looked to be a nice (not showy, just comfy) home. She may very well be covering bills for Lynn and the baby -- tho, to be fair, Raquel/Rachel/whatever may have joined her loins with a substantial young lad with a promising future, a Honda and a 401k.

[slitz]

These people aren't representative of L.A. and OC residents any more than Mickey and Minnie are representative of Anaheim residents.

 

Or Orlando residents.  ;)

 

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

[Vicky8675309]

I don't get all the Shannon love. She annoyed me from the very beginning of her stint on this show. All her new age bullshit drives me batty. Her quacky "holistic" treatments are misleading and can be harmful (just look at the toxic shit Yolanda, rhwobh, puts into her body). Her constant crying (makes Kyle look stoic) and poor little rich girl helplessness irks me. I'll take a strong bitch any day over a pathetic weak ass cry baby.

LOL, I always like the housewives that everyone hates (I always have liked Kyle, Bethanny, Kendra and I'm even entertained by Tamra when she is being bitchy)

Edited June 13, 2015 by Vicky8675309

[Bronzedog]

I hope this season isn't going to be dark. We have weepy Shannon, the death of Vicki's mother, Brooke's possible cancer, Tamra sucking the life out of everything. At least some of the wives are actually married.

[MatildaMoody]

I love how easily Tamra re-writes history. The grief she and Gretchen gave Vicki over something as innocent as calling her grandson her baby, is just wiped away when Tamra is a grandmother to "her baby." Vicki trying to stay neutral through all of Tamra's shit stirring or not allowing Tamra to dictate who she should date equals Vicki not being supportive and hurtful. She keeps saying that Vicki really hurt her last year, but I can't think of anything that Vicki did to Tamra last year except try to get Tamra to not stir shit between Heather and Shannon, and getting rightfully pissed that Tamra was trying to involve herself in Vicki's love life. Tamra's gift of being able to re-write history is insane. 

[candall]

Yeah, she's being persecuted for her honesty.

[motorcitymom65]

I love how easily Tamra re-writes history. The grief she and Gretchen gave Vicki over something as innocent as calling her grandson her baby, is just wiped away when Tamra is a grandmother to "her baby." Vicki trying to stay neutral through all of Tamra's shit stirring or not allowing Tamra to dictate who she should date equals Vicki not being supportive and hurtful. She keeps saying that Vicki really hurt her last year, but I can't think of anything that Vicki did to Tamra last year except try to get Tamra to not stir shit between Heather and Shannon, and getting rightfully pissed that Tamra was trying to involve herself in Vicki's love life. Tamra's gift of being able to re-write history is insane.

Yea that Tamra. She can absolutely make shit up. I give her a pass on the "my baby" stuff. Most folks I know who didn't have kids when I did made big statements about how they could never give up date nights, or give up their career, or whatever until they had them. No one is prepared for how you will actually feel about a kid or grandkid until you actually do.

I feel zero sympathy for Vicki, however. She and Tamra are made for each other. They have never really had any long-term loyalty to each other. They've both done each other wrong. What I remember about Vicki last year is that she was talking shit about Tamra all the time. Way before she found out that Tamra had said stuff about Brooks, which was at the very end. She talked shit about her to Shannon and to Lizzie (is that her name? I cannot even remember). Telling her that Tamra said she didn't want to come to her party when they were in the limo, just to stir shit up for Tamra. A typical Vicki move, since Tamra had actually been quite nice and welcoming to Lizzie at that time, while Vicki had talked about her like she was a dog, literally even as she was getting into the limo. Right after that was the Valentines Day Party. Lizzie said going in she was mad at Tamra because Vicki had told her Tamra just didn't want to go to her party. Tamra felt like a lot of the stuff that came after with Lizzie was because of the untruths that Vicki had told her.

Vicki only ever needs one friend on the show. She is more than content with that. Last year she had Shannon and that was really enough for her. Heather was still there, but my God, Vicki talked about her like she was trash for the first half of the season. That frienship only lasts because Heather won't play along and at the end of the day Vicki actually likes Heather and she knows that Heather is probably the one person that has always been loyal to her. This year she will have some type of issue with Shannon - of that I am sure, and she will run back to Tamra. Those two just can't quit each other because they are the same person and they know it.

Edited June 13, 2015 by motorcitymom65