Small Talk: We'll Be Right Back

[peacheslatour]

Quote

The store was known for serving free coffee so the community is called "Hot Coffee."  

Laverne’s Pies Tires Fixed Also?

[QuinnInND]

Those hand dryers are horrible. You wind up with more germs on your hands than you started with. They've proven that. 

[Prevailing Wind]

12 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Laverne’s Pies Tires Fixed Also?

Sorry, no.  😉

 

[friendperidot]

  "3 HOURS AGO, CHENOA333 SAID:

Yes it is. Apparently it works. But I was specifically referring to the fact that Khloe has had so much cosmetic surgery for everything else on her body. Her tv show on E! is called Revenge Body. 

My point was that Khloe has no purposeful job other than lots of plastic surgery so migraines aren't stopping her from more plastic surgery. 

 

That's all of them. The dumbing down and famous for being famous fad is a disgrace to this country."

 

I think the Kardashians have a lot to blame them for with the dumbing down of this country. These are not good role models! They may not have started the ball rolling down hill, but they contributed to it big time. 

[peacheslatour]

28 minutes ago, friendperidot said:

  "3 HOURS AGO, CHENOA333 SAID:

Yes it is. Apparently it works. But I was specifically referring to the fact that Khloe has had so much cosmetic surgery for everything else on her body. Her tv show on E! is called Revenge Body. 

My point was that Khloe has no purposeful job other than lots of plastic surgery so migraines aren't stopping her from more plastic surgery. 

 

That's all of them. The dumbing down and famous for being famous fad is a disgrace to this country."

 

I think the Kardashians have a lot to blame them for with the dumbing down of this country. These are not good role models! They may not have started the ball rolling down hill, but they contributed to it big time. 

Agreed. I don't want to dis anyone's preferences but "reality" television has been a bane to this country.

[tres bien]

I find Botox to be very interesting. 

My daughter suffered from excessive sweating  (Hyperhidrosis). The dermatologist gave her two series of Botox injections in her armpits.  It cured it.

A relative had a stroke which left one arm and hand limp. He was treated with Botox injections at the sight and regained some mobility. 

[QuinnInND]

I've got a friend who's husband suffers from migraines. He gets botox shots every so often (3 or 6 months I think). He gets 25 or so across his forehead, back of his neck and in behind his ears. Works like a charm.  The only side effect is that for about a week after he gets them, his eyebrows look pointy like Spock. Then they go back to normal. 

Edited January 31, 2021 by QuinnInND

[PrincessPurrsALot]

On 1/27/2021 at 8:11 AM, tres bien said:

Noom still drives me crazy. Especially Mr "I was training for the Olympics". 

The ads are so vague it's like they're a secret diet society. No matter. I googled Noom and I still can't figure out the program,  it seems to a version of Weight Watchers. 

Anyone with further information, let me know. 

Noom is a 1200/1400 calorie a day diet that also includes short articles that are supposed to help you address any psychological barriers you have to losing weight.  The articles are poorly researched.  The program is based on the idea that everyone has the same eating behaviors and that people only sign up for the app if they have tried many diets before and failed.  It does focus also on increasing activity.  However, the number of factual errors is really a problem. 

They also give you a group that has a group leader that posts very perky, positive posts that are generally useless.  Whenever someone posts a real issue, they tend to provide all kinds of positivity but no actual advice.  Similarly they offer a "goal specialist" who is supposed to help you set goals toward healthy living.  The biggest issue there is that if you want help beyond setting a goal they offer you yet another poorly written article.  

They want you to post all kinds of things to the group; however other group members rarely respond to anything. One person said that Noom wanted her to post things she wouldn't be willing to share with her husband.

My niece tried Noom.  I was concerned about the program and joined.  I had already lost quite a bit of weight on my own.  In my group, a person expressed suicidal tendencies that were exacerbated by a sense of isolation and loneliness brought on by the program. (Too much talk about your family, assuming everyone is married with kids, going out to eat, etc.)  The Noom group leader responded with meaningless platitudes rather than recognizing that this person was in trouble and needed to stop using this terrible app.   

[QuinnInND]

3 minutes ago, icemiser69 said:

Fascinating.  (insert Spock face here)

Botox scares the crap out of me.  I suffer from migraines and take over the counter medication which helps out greatly, but it causes my stomach to bleed which is one of the things that caused me to be anemic on and off for the past several years.  The other thing that does a number on my stomach is anxiety, but I have had that issue since elementary school.   Ulcers are nothing new for me, I have had them every so often since middle school.  The migraine medication makes them that much worse, because most of the migraine medication I take has caffeine in it.  Caffeine makes me jittery.

The Botox is safe as long as you're getting it done by a professional. It's a proven therapy. Give it a try. Also, ask about oxygen therapy. My friends husband also has an in home oxygen tank. 10 minutes on it, and his headache goes away for the most part. Between the botox and the oxygen, he's off the meds he was on, and his quality of life is so much better.  He was on Sumatriptan nasal sprays. He hasn't used one in months. 

[PrincessPurrsALot]

I take aimovig for migraines.  It's an injection you administer yourself.  It's in pen form so it's easy.  It was a life saver for me.  For the first year I got it for free.  Now, through insurance, I pay $30/month.  It is worth is.  I was having migraines without pain 15 times a month.  This included dizziness, inability to walk safely, major visual distortions, extreme sensitivity to light, then the exhausted crash.  I wouldn't be through one crash before the next cycle started.  I actually has someone at work report me for being drunk because I was holding onto the wall to walk. Fortunately I could explain why and our wonderful office administrator stepped in to help.  When she found out she had someone on site to adjust the lights by my desk in minutes.  Seems the workman has migraines too so he was all about helping.  

I've been working from home for quite some time so I don't have to worry about office lighting as a trigger.  However, I can say that even before then  my symptoms reduced dramatically. (And yes, I know, migraines without pain are not what people think of.  I had to find a specialist who, when I told him my symptoms, said how this is not that rare but since most doctors think headache they don't associate all of this with migraines without pain.  That is also why the OTC meds which are focused on pain are not of use to me).  

I have had Botox before to try to relax an area on my forehead that tends to spasm and has caused damaged to some tendons.  The issue I had was that they could not block some of the key muscles without risking eyelid droop.  No need to look like I've had a stroke.  It did give some time for the tendons to heal. 

[KittyMom4]

On 1/31/2021 at 2:51 AM, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Noom is a 1200/1400 calorie a day diet that also includes short articles that are supposed to help you address any psychological barriers you have to losing weight.  The articles are poorly researched.  The program is based on the idea that everyone has the same eating behaviors and that people only sign up for the app if they have tried many diets before and failed.  It does focus also on increasing activity.  However, the number of factual errors is really a problem. 

This is interesting, I was wondering, just as @tres bien was, about what exactly this Noom thing was about. I did Beach Body for a while, it was a quality program if you don't mind grueling workouts and constant meal planning but as much as they tried to make it out as an easy program to follow I found it time consuming and stressful. Did I lose some weight? Yes. Did the workouts improve my body? Yes. However it was not something I could sustain, time and money-wise, for the long term. I dreaded the workouts, some were extremely difficult , even when modified and you need a lot of space to do the moves. The meal prep was an all day activity and a lot of meals had products that were expensive and, unless you have a natural food store nearby, difficult to find. 

I have had much better success with eating healthy and proportioned meals and running and/or walking for 30 minutes 4-5 days a week. When I say success, I mean I actually looked forward to doing it so I continue to do it. I feel the more complicated the diet/exercise plan, the harder it is to be excited to do it regularly. That being said, whatever works for those who need it is a good thing. 

[peacheslatour]

Quote

I have known a few people that quit smoking, and all of a sudden started putting on a lot of weight.  They just substituted one coping mechanism (smoking) with another (overeating).

When my mom tried to quit smoking, she started drinking a lot. She wasn't able to quit smoking in the end but she continued to drink too much.

[Ashforth]

6 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

When my mom tried to quit smoking, she started drinking a lot. She wasn't able to quit smoking in the end but she continued to drink too much.

Win-Win!

oops, sorry

[QuinnInND]

16 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

 

I have known a few people that quit smoking, and all of a sudden started putting on a lot of weight.  They just substituted one coping mechanism (smoking) with another (overeating).

 

And quitting changes your metabolism. I had a friend who quit smoking and kept track of how much she ate, because she was afraid of gaining. She barely ate 1200 calories a day, and gained. And Noom and the like don't take medication into account. Lots of meds cause weight gain that no amount of dieting will fix. 

[CrystalBlue]

1 hour ago, QuinnInND said:

And quitting changes your metabolism. I had a friend who quit smoking and kept track of how much she ate, because she was afraid of gaining. She barely ate 1200 calories a day, and gained. And Noom and the like don't take medication into account. Lots of meds cause weight gain that no amount of dieting will fix. 

This is so true.  Cigarette smoking naturally speeds your metabolism.  That's why models and other mostly women who have to remain thin take up smoking; it's an industry insider trick.  Figure on adding 10-15 pounds just by quitting smoking.  Also true about medication.  Countless meds for various conditions can and do cause weight gain.  Oral contraceptives can do the same for some women.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

On 2/3/2021 at 3:24 AM, icemiser69 said:

People overeat for different reasons.   Some people stress overeat, depress overeat, overeat due to boredom, etc..  Whatever reason or reasons is/are causing someone to overeat, unless they find some other way of dealing with whatever issues are triggering them to overeat, they will eventually go back to overeating, no matter how many diets they go on.  And once overeating becomes a habitual problem, then that is an even bigger problem.   Now that is just an another issue added into the mix.

I have known a few people that quit smoking, and all of a sudden started putting on a lot of weight.  They just substituted one coping mechanism (smoking) with another (overeating).

 

Which for me is one of the frustrations with Noom.  If they helped identify your why and you could focus on that, it might be more helpful. Especially if they had counselors rather than "goal specialists".  (GS: Do you need help setting a goal to drink more water?!?!?!?!  I can help you with that. 🙂 🙂 🙂  Me:  No, I'm an adult who 1) already drinks a lot of water and 2) is capable of setting a plan .) Instead every week they go through a different thing.  For me, it was more likely to add bad habits than get rid of ones I have. 

The other bit is when you quit/finish, they then offer you a much better rate and they'll say that people who stay on the program lose even more weight.  But I thought they already taught me everything? They certainly ran out of topics (again poorly researched topics presented in horribly written short articles).  Okay, so clearly I find the program terrible.  

I look at all of the 1200/1400 calorie a day programs askance.  I would say if you figure out how much someone east and cut it down by 10% they'll lose weight slowly and sustainably.  Halving (or more) your calories is not a long term plan and sets people up for success.  Also, @icemiser69 I agree.  If you are majorly overeating, you need to figure out why or what triggers your behaviors.  Otherwise it will start again.  

One last Noom rant, there is a point in the program where they stop having you count every calorie and weigh in daily.  Basically they want you to see how well you are now doing and what you've learned.  Every single person in my group that posted about it failed immediately.  After months of Noom's articles, they fell right back into their old eating patterns and put on weight. So, yeah, it's a crap program built on pseudo science. 

[peacheslatour]

10 hours ago, CrystalBlue said:

This is so true.  Cigarette smoking naturally speeds your metabolism.  That's why models and other mostly women who have to remain thin take up smoking; it's an industry insider trick.  Figure on adding 10-15 pounds just by quitting smoking.  Also true about medication.  Countless meds for various conditions can and do cause weight gain.  Oral contraceptives can do the same for some women.

I had a boss who used to say "Men love women who smoke, they're skinny and they die young."

[friendperidot]

Icemiser, I wonder about the pieces separating if you lie across a couple of the or large dogs or small children or even teenage children were doing gymnastics as they sometimes do.

[Prevailing Wind]

From annoying commercials, the sick bed stories:

My mom's go-to food remedy was Cream of Wheat.  When it was cooked, she'd pour it into a bowl and put a big ol' pat of butter in the center.  One day she brought it to me without the butter. I was SO disappointed.  But then I started stirring and the butter rose to the top. She had put it in the bowl first & covered it with the cereal. I think that was the only time that week or so of illness that my eyes lit up.

[Ashforth]

29 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

From annoying commercials, the sick bed stories:

My mom's go-to food remedy was Cream of Wheat.  When it was cooked, she'd pour it into a bowl and put a big ol' pat of butter in the center.  One day she brought it to me without the butter. I was SO disappointed.  But then I started stirring and the butter rose to the top. She had put it in the bowl first & covered it with the cereal. I think that was the only time that week or so of illness that my eyes lit up.

For my mom, it was saltines spread with a little jelly and Sprite. I still have that when I have an upset stomach.

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, icemiser69 said:

Ginger ale is my go to drink.

It is Super Bowl Sunday and I just don't give a damn.   At one point in time I was a huge football fan, but I don't think I have seen a SB in at least three decades, probably much longer than that.

I'd rather watch the Puppy Bowl with Martha and Snoop.

[Prevailing Wind]

I watched the DECADES channel binge of "Early Edition."

[smittykins]

Forensic Files marathon on HLN over here.

[Prevailing Wind]

23 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

Did you watch the episode that was edited and put together out of order?   IIRC, the last segment aired earlier then it was supposed to and an earlier segment aired where the last segment should have been.  I don't recall which episode it was, but I watched it when it originally aired on CBS, and they didn't bother to fix it when it hit syndication.  I think it was in the last season of the series, probably one of the last five or ten episodes.

I missed that one. But it does remind me of an event I went to once. It was a double-feature showing of The Maltese Falcon and Treasure of the Sierra Madre.  They're showing Treasure, we're all sitting there, quietly, watching the film when it stopped making sense. It seemed like everyone in the audience but me started shouting, "WRONG REEL, WRONG REEL!"  The movie stopped and after about 10 minutes it started back up again, correctly.

[peacheslatour]

13 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I missed that one. But it does remind me of an event I went to once. It was a double-feature showing of The Maltese Falcon and Treasure of the Sierra Madre.  They're showing Treasure, we're all sitting there, quietly, watching the film when it stopped making sense. It seemed like everyone in the audience but me started shouting, "WRONG REEL, WRONG REEL!"  The movie stopped and after about 10 minutes it started back up again, correctly.

"We don't need no stinking continuity!"

[smittykins]

NBC once messed up by accidentally running Part 3 of the miniseries “Loose Change” instead of  Part 2(and didn’t realize it for 17 minutes).

 

Edited February 10, 2021 by smittykins

[Nicmar]

On 12/22/2020 at 4:53 PM, peacheslatour said:

My dad really liked them a lot. My mom was into Rod Stewart.

I never liked Rod Stewart! Abd I still don't like him and his new genre of music. 

[Gramto6]

My mom and I played card games at the dining room table. We worked on a quilt together, but never the imaginary games shown in the commercials. I played with my kids building things with Legos and drawing pictures, reading to them. But a lot of the time was devoted to them finding things that interested them and letting them explore their interests.

To this day DD and I and her oldest DD do daily art projects online. I'm in MT they're in CA. Tomorrow's project is hearts. No surprise...

[chessiegal]

24 minutes ago, icemiser69 said:

Scrabble is a fun game to play, but too many people cheat.  

How do you cheat at Scrabble?

[Katy M]

34 minutes ago, icemiser69 said:

My brother plays against my mom sitting at a table, and he constantly looks up words in the dictionary. 

I think that's OK, as long as you're just double checking.  that's our rule, anyway.

[chessiegal]

Then you only play Scrabble with people who agree to a set of rules. My club had a Game Day to raise funds for charity. I played Scrabble at a table for 4, and we played by the official Scrabble rules. One player had a book of the rules that included a dictionary to check on if a word was permissible.  

[peacheslatour]

3 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

People use their phones to look up words, there are several websites where you can plug in the letters and it will give you all of the possible words from those letters.  No point playing Scrabble online unless you are playing computer opponents.

My brother plays against my mom sitting at a table, and he constantly looks up words in the dictionary. 

Back in the seventies, my parents would play Scrabble  with married friends.   One of those players would just sit there with a dictionary in front of him and look up every possible word without having any idea if the words existed and without knowing the possible meanings of those words, it was cheating and tedious.   Games would take longer than the long version of Monopoly.

 

Why would anyone even bother to play with someone who did that?

[peacheslatour]

Quote

I have no idea.  It isn't an enjoyable experience playing with people that take the game that seriously.

To me, that isn't taking it seriously at all. Cheaters don't care about the game or the rules.

[janie jones]

My family always played by the official Scrabble rules, and we kept a dictionary in our Scrabble box. So one day I was playing with my grandma and the girlfriend of a family friend (it was our first time playing with her), and we noticed she kept looking in the dictionary. My grandma and I looked at each other like WTF. Finally my grandma told her that you aren't allowed to look words up before you play them; the dictionary is there to rule on challenges. She didn't argue and we went about our business, but my grandma and I were both surprised because we had never heard of someone playing like that.

My grandma did do something that was not technically cheating, but was kind of sleazy. She'd put down fake words and then if she'd felt like you were going to challenge it, she'd be so confident it was real, sometimes throwing in a, "oh,  you don't know what flingle means?!" feigning shock at your ignorance, that you wouldn't challenge.

[Katy M]

21 minutes ago, janie jones said:

My grandma did do something that was not technically cheating, but was kind of sleazy. She'd put down fake words and then if she'd felt like you were going to challenge it, she'd be so confident it was real, sometimes throwing in a, "oh,  you don't know what flingle means?!" feigning shock at your ignorance, that you wouldn't challenge.

I actually would call it cheating if you knowingly use a word you know isn't right.  That's kind of why in my family we allow the pre-play check.  It takes the cut-throat challenge aspect out for people who in good faith aren't quite sure how a word is spelled, or if a word that they think they've heard is actually a word.

[Bastet]

2 hours ago, janie jones said:

She'd put down fake words and then if she'd felt like you were going to challenge it, she'd be so confident it was real, sometimes throwing in a, "oh,  you don't know what flingle means?!" feigning shock at your ignorance, that you wouldn't challenge.

Thanks to The Golden Girls, "disdam" is allowed as a word when my mom and I play Scrabble.  (As Sophia explained, it means "you're no good as disdam game".)

[peacheslatour]

9 minutes ago, Bastet said:

Thanks to The Golden Girls, "disdam" is allowed as a word when my mom and I play Scrabble.  (As Sophia explained, it means "you're no good as disdam game".)

We give "buckety" a pass because Darlene while playing Scrabble, used the word on Rosaeanne. "You know, Roseanne's mouth gets quite buckety when she's mad." Or words to that effect.

[Bastet]

Just now, peacheslatour said:

We give "buckety" a pass because Darlene while playing Scrabble, used the word on Rosaeanne. "You know, Roseanne's mouth gets quite buckety when she's mad." Or words to that effect.

Yep:  "Of, pertaining to, or having the characteristics of a bucket.  As in 'When Roseanne is angry, her mouth is quite buckety'".

Poor, stupid late-season Mark, told oxygen is not a word, it's an abbreviation (because the full word wouldn't fit on the tank, unless you printed it vertically, which is against the law) after he's all excited that he finally won a game.  I like that the audience "awww"s for him when he falls for it and is sad. 

[Prevailing Wind]

My mom would have challenged your Grandma, "Use flingle in a sentence..."  Those people with the Scrabble dictionaries are the reason I never joined a Scrabble club. They suck all the fun out of it.

[Katy M]

38 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

My mom would have challenged your Grandma, "Use flingle in a sentence..."  Those people with the Scrabble dictionaries are the reason I never joined a Scrabble club. They suck all the fun out of it.

they thought about having a fling, but since they were both happily married settled for a flingle.

[Prevailing Wind]

My dad would always answer her, "My wife won't let me use <flingle> in Scrabble."

[cynicat]

11 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

My mom would have challenged your Grandma, "Use flingle in a sentence..."  Those people with the Scrabble dictionaries are the reason I never joined a Scrabble club. They suck all the fun out of it.

It's also all about the delivery.  If you defend the word with enough confidence and authority, people start to doubt themselves, even if they can't find the word in the dictionary.  My (late) uncle  had an incredibly dry humor, and was famous for this.  Because of him, to this day our family uses the word "alublia" to mean the little screws on the sides of eyeglasses.  He made the word up of course, but he was really, really good. 

[janie jones]

20 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

My mom would have challenged your Grandma, "Use flingle in a sentence..."  Those people with the Scrabble dictionaries are the reason I never joined a Scrabble club. They suck all the fun out of it.

Someone who makes up bullshit definitions is prepared to make up a bullshit sentence.

[peacheslatour]

12 minutes ago, janie jones said:

Someone who makes up bullshit definitions is prepared to make up a bullshit sentence.

"I'm not using that accountant any more, he was trying to flingle my taxes."

[peacheslatour]

7 minutes ago, icemiser69 said:

There is nothing wrong with competing in a Scrabble game, but those who tend to be too competitive tend not to be graceful losers.  Yes, they are still losers, just not graceful ones.  Thankfully I have never played any board games with board flippers/tantrum throwers when they lose, or those that gloat when they win.

My BFF and I got into a physical altercation over the game of Life once. I think it ended with us throwing the little cars at each other. Of course, we were six.

[janie jones]

Maybe it's just because of the way I'm used to playing it, and I haven't played with any board-flippers either, but I feel like players who need to "double-check" are the ones who are taking the game too seriously. If I spell something wrong and it gets challenged and I miss my turn, no skin off my nose. Part of the game (to me) is deciding whether you're going to gamble on the validity of a word and hope you don't get challenged, or play it safe and play a different word.

We've all been burned by my grandma. Sometimes if I play a word my aunt doesn't know, she won't challenge it, but she'll later ask if it was a word.

[peacheslatour]

Quote

Backgammon is also a classic.

OMG! One of my high school friends had one of those tables that had a backgammon box inlaid on the top. We got addicted one rainy summer and played game after game.

[Prevailing Wind]

4 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

"I'm not using that accountant any more, he was trying to flingle my taxes."

That's because you're supposed to file, not chisel.

[QuinnInND]

3 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

 

 

Backgammon is also a classic.

Love Backgammon. It didn't require reading when I learned it, which was a plus.  

[peacheslatour]

15 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

I bet he wore a pinky ring.  I hate them.  I know it is irrational, but I hate them with a passion.   I am not much of a jewelry fan anyway.  I do still have my high school ring, though I don't wear it.

Unfortunately she was a woman and she smoked. She was one of the worst bosses I ever had. She was insanely jealous of any woman younger than she was and would trash talk us in front of customers. The insane thing was, she wasn't there much of the time and when she undermined us, it was hard to get the customer's confidence back when we were there without her.