Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[crazy8s]

16 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

Goodness how many churchs have they grifted at where there are women in pants, bare arms and even - gasp - tattoos.   The church does not seem to have be hit by lightning due to this "immodesty."

Jill takes the money and then makes a post about how saddened she is that "even the churches we visit, we see they are letting their standards slip away"

[CalicoKitty]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

💗 TO MAMA- MY BEST FRIEND💗
    A Poem written by Renee Rodrigues in honor of my precious Mama...

   As the toddler reaches for an object on the shelf, 
   Not knowing that it may bring harm or danger to herself,
   Her mother quickly scolds her as she leads the babe away, 
   And tells her not to touch the thing she wishes 'or to play.
   
   The years pass by, the baby grows, an active child is she,
   But still she's young and unaware, what Mama's eyes can see.
   In each mistake or wilful sin and choice to disobey,
   Her mama still is standing near, to guide, correct, and pray.
   For in the heart of Mama dear abides a love so rare,
   And from that love she must correct, or else she doesn't care.
   The soul inside her daughters heart is far too great a price,
   To keep from saying something, for the sake of being "nice".
   So still she prays to Jesus, and daily reads His book,
   For with her given duty, it is to God in whom she'll look.
   
   The child grew, a teen was she, and time was fleeting by,
   This once young, babbling toddler was learning how to fly.
   New questions that she'd never asked, new choices she would make,
   New tears of frustration, and the fear of a mistake.
   But all the while her mother, so faithful and sincere, 
   Would give a helpful word, or give a listening ear.
   No matter what the question, no matter what the doubt,
   Her mother never wavered on the things she spoke about.
   Convictions of the past were convictions of today,
   No matter what the sinful world would do, or think, or say.
   Her Mama always warned her to keep her eyes on Christ, 
   And when the battle rages on, "don't give up in the fight."
  Although temptations come along and wordly things appeal, 
   She warned about the devil who is only out to steal. 

   This daughter reached adulthood, she now has flown the nest,
   The things her mother taught her are now put to the test.
   And when her faith is weak, or trials come along,
   She thinks about her Mama's words and thinks about her song.
   For no amount of pressure seems to take her Mama down,
   And when it seems she wears a frown, she turns it upside down.
   So child, just remember, through all your passing days, 
   The things your Mama taught you of Jesus and His ways.
   For when your faith is weak, and Satan lurks in stealth, 
   Just remember what your Mama said about,       
            "THE OBJECT ON THE SHELF"

Since I was a young child, Mama (and Daddy as well) trained me to do right, taught me from God's Word, and most importantly, loved me. I want to pause at the word "love". It is a word that has been twisted and misused for many years by the world. I will not expound on the misuse of it because I believe every Christian knows and understands the fault in this new meaning of "love". Basically it replaces "exeptance for sin". But I do want to thank her for never wavering on the true meaning of this profound word found all throughout the Bible. Raising 13 children has been no easy task, but she has never lost sight of Who and for what cause she was and still is raising each of her children for. 

  I wouldn't be where I am at today 
 without her. 💜 I love you to my favorite star and back again, Mama! 💫💖💫💖💫   Much love, Renee

I wonder who the real author is.  I doubt she wrote this.  There are only a couple of misspellings, no random capital letters and no extra commas.  Unless she is reading it and Siri is printing it, except then there would be no spelling errors.  Does she often use words like "expound"?  I think this was copied with no attribution.

[merylinkid]

18 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

Jill takes the money and then makes a post about how saddened she is that "even the churches we visit, we see they are letting their standards slip away"

Not enough to not take the money I notice.   Or cross them off the grift tour.   

Money is what Jill really loves.  

[GeeGolly]

Jill now wears eye trapping form fitted clothing. She also wears baseball bonnets and sweat blouses, She attends gatherings with music, alcohol and sultishly dressed women.

Is the devil stealing her morals? Or does Jill make up the rules as she goes along? Because really, if she truly believed the bullshit she spews, she'd take a long look at her worldly behaviors and attribute her recent troubles as a sign from God that she is falling prey to the devil.

 

[Abmis]

Renee says she wouldn't be where she is today without Mahmo.  Where is that?  Stuck at home raising her siblings, doing the household chores, making jewelry, and waiting on her parents hand and foot?  She seems to have no idea how abnormal her life is for someone her age.  I know Mahmo tricks the kids into thinking their lifestyle is superior to that of others but I wish she could look around and wise up. 

She also mentions leaving the nest and she knows nothing about that either.  The situation those poor kids are in makes me so sad and frustrated. 

[ginger90]

Two replies to Renee’s post from Jill:

I read this poem to Daddy and we cried together. 😭  You are SUCH a blessing to our hearts!  Also, I point the glory back to God.  He has been such a faithful Father to me.  I have made many mistakes, but I am thankful for God mercy through it all!  I love you!  ❤️  xoxo  Mama

 

Dearest Renee,   In an intense time of spiritual attack, this poem was so encouraging to me!  <3  When I went to FB and saw this, I was brought to tears.  Thank you, my darling daughter!  Also, your talent is absolutely INCREDIBLE!   God has gifted you in SO many ways and I am thankful that you so passionately use those gifts for God!  🥰  I love you, my sweet daughter, to your favorite star and back again, and I cannot wait to watch how (and already is) He is going to mightily use you for His glory!  🥰😊❤️  Mama

[oliviabenson]

Instead of deleting the purity post and apologizing, Jill dug in her heels in and made it all about how she is the victim. Her son stood up to her and she is the victim. 
 

Jill is a total nut case.

[oliviabenson]

David the vacant eyes doesn’t cry. I do believe Jill was fake crying and making her kids cry with her antics.

Her poor kids tbh, I imagine they are even more miserable/hungry now. 

[laurakaye]

If Jill ever wanted to make some good money, she could teach a Master's level course in how to manipulate your kids to turn against each other.  

Either Jill demanded slobbering, cowering posts from her daughters STAT to combat the evil that is Tim and Heidi and the no-good, terrible kiss, or the girls - sensing that their mother was going off the rails yet again - got in touch with each other and hastily came up with those posts by themselves.  Either way, it's sick.

[lianau]

6 hours ago, Minivanessa said:

Hostage poetry. 

Every time I tried a thing ,

from mama's hands the beatings spring, 

[oliviabenson]

Jill wrote that poem. And signed Renee’s name. I managed a few lines and rolled my eyes and quit reading.

Edited September 23 by oliviabenson

[Salacious Kitty]

"Intense time of spiritual attack" Jill? You brought that on yourself.  No one objected to the kiss, you fucking moron. 

Edited September 23 by Salacious Kitty

[crazy8s]

16 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

If Jill ever wanted to make some good money, she could teach a Master's level course in how to manipulate your kids to turn against each other.  

Either Jill demanded slobbering, cowering posts from her daughters STAT to combat the evil that is Tim and Heidi and the no-good, terrible kiss, or the girls - sensing that their mother was going off the rails yet again - got in touch with each other and hastily came up with those posts by themselves.  Either way, it's sick.

They have all been on the retreat together since the wedding, so it wouldn't take much of an effort to get in touch with each other.

[oliviabenson]

Jill thinks her kids lives are hers forever and to share whatever she likes. No one tells her no…

I wonder how long she will last in her new church. 
 

Jill needs to shut her mouth and lose her phone. 
 

 

I guess the old church asked them to leave.

[Salacious Kitty]

7 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

They have all been on the retreat together since the wedding, so it wouldn't take much of an effort to get in touch with each other.

And they couldn't call it a vacation after the eleventy other vacations they've taken this year. The clearinghouses might cut them off. 😂

[Natalie68]

On 9/21/2024 at 9:41 AM, ranchgirl said:

I bet Jill is texting Tim 4x a day on his honeymoon over this too.  

I do feel for Tim and Heidi, this is not a good way to start off a marriage.  I wish Jill would think of that before dying on her sword.  

I also don't think Tim is too far removed from his mom.  Most of the changes lately were done probably at the request of his new wife, not so much to dismiss his mom.  Afterall, he did stay pure until his wedding day like his mom and dad told him too.  All this bickering now between the two families has to be heavy on both Tim and Heidi's hearts.  

and Nurie

[Natalie68]

On 9/22/2024 at 10:47 AM, oliviabenson said:

Her neck is bulging she needs a doctor visit. She legit looks 55 years old and like a joker. Her looks have left her. 

She also has really puffy hands/feet.  I think her health is a nightmare. 

[oliviabenson]

Tim should block his parents numbers. He needs a break!

[AstridM]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Two replies to Renee’s post from Jill:

I read this poem to Daddy and we cried together. 😭  You are SUCH a blessing to our hearts!  Also, I point the glory back to God.  He has been such a faithful Father to me.  I have made many mistakes, but I am thankful for God mercy through it all!  I love you!  ❤️  xoxo  Mama

 

Dearest Renee,   In an intense time of spiritual attack, this poem was so encouraging to me!  <3  When I went to FB and saw this, I was brought to tears.  Thank you, my darling daughter!  Also, your talent is absolutely INCREDIBLE!   God has gifted you in SO many ways and I am thankful that you so passionately use those gifts for God!  🥰  I love you, my sweet daughter, to your favorite star and back again, and I cannot wait to watch how (and already is) He is going to mightily use you for His glory!  🥰😊❤️  Mama

Renee couldn’t have written the message (I know, I know 😳) in a nice card and simply given it to her mother at home, like most kids would? Then she could display the card! But no, it all needs to be posted online for thousands of complete strangers!

 

 

Reminder of how awful Jill has always been to Timothy 😢😢😢😡.

 

https://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/news-timothy-rodrigues-march-2016/

Edited September 23 by AstridM

[ginger90]

Jill’s father has now replied to Renee’s post.

“How absolutely precious Renee. Your Mama truly deserves those words of praise. We pray everyday God will send you a young man who is strong in his relationship with the Lord and who will be a Godly leader to you and will reinforce those values your Mama has instilled in your life. This poem should get published for the world to see. With all our love Grandpa and Grandma.”

And so has Brianne:

Edited September 23 by ginger90

[lianau]

I don't think the world is going to see this poem the way he thinks the world  will see it. It's all about controlling you kids through fear. 

[crazy8s]

Jill must really be in a downward spiral if her daddy had to chime in. Most likely Jill has access to Daddy's fb and wrote and posted this herself.

Daddy Noyes just how would you envision this being "published" for the whole world to see? Daily newspaper, a tract handed out at fairs, as a dedication in the next edition of the KJV 1611 0r 1619?

For these people who go on and on about the evils of this old world and evils of technology and screen time they sure all seem familiar with using it.

[BradandJanet]

Now that Jill has her little army of Rod assembled, she should use her Plexus money to buy them matching t-shirts. 

Never mind. There's probably a Plexus convention coming up she'll need her Plexus earnings to pay to attend. 

[BetyBee]

1 hour ago, oliviabenson said:

Jill wrote that poem. And signed Renee’s name. I managed a few lines and rolled my eyes and quit reading.

That poem was too long and too full of bs. I admit I only read a few lines. (Jill - shorten it up next time. You need to learn to read your audience). The real point was Jill's "loving response" when she "went on FB" and was surprised to read such a loving poem on her own FB page. She's a victim of "spiritual warfare" doncha know? BTW, she's always on Social Media. That and money are her true gods. I'm sick of the way she and Dave are rewriting what happened. She was  called out for publicly disseminating personal information that wasn't hers to give. No one has disputed her stance on purity. She's a liar. 

[Liddy52]

What is sickening me in Daddy Noyes post is where he says they pray for a young man who will be a "Godly leader" to Renee and will "reinforce those values your Mama has instilled". Because there is no way Renee can survive without someone to lead her and reinforce THOSE values. She has no brain, no values, no reason to exist without a man to lead her and reinforce Mommy Dearest's values. At best this viewpoint is insulting and at worst it is disturbing.  

[beckie]

Reinforce the values her MAMA instilled in her? Not her daddy the map watching preacher supposed head of the family? Boy does Jill have her whole family brainwashed!

[satrunrose]

24 minutes ago, Liddy52 said:

What is sickening me in Daddy Noyes post is where he says they pray for a young man who will be a "Godly leader" to Renee and will "reinforce those values your Mama has instilled". Because there is no way Renee can survive without someone to lead her and reinforce THOSE values. She has no brain, no values, no reason to exist without a man to lead her and reinforce Mommy Dearest's values. At best this viewpoint is insulting and at worst it is disturbing.  

Yes! This whole blow up just underscores that the young people (especially young women) in this culture have no value whatsoever beyond their "purity" (and to stroke the egos of their narcissist parent, I suppose). 

Quote

And from that love she must correct, or else she doesn't care.
   The soul inside her daughters heart is far too great a price,
   To keep from saying something, for the sake of being "nice".

This line (if it's actually from Renée, which would surprise me) stood out too. I can just picture a lot of blanket training type experiences with Jill insisting that this is love, not abuse.

Edited September 23 by satrunrose

[ozziemom]

1 hour ago, AstridM said:

Renee couldn’t have written the message (I know, I know 😳) in a nice card and simply given it to her mother at home, like most kids would? Then she could display the card! But no, it all needs to be posted online for thousands of complete strangers!

 

 

Reminder of how awful Jill has always been to Timothy 😢😢😢😡.

 

https://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/news-timothy-rodrigues-march-2016/

This is so sad, it sounds like Tim was beaten regularly as a child. What a horrible pair of parents Jill and David are.

[ginger90]

18 minutes ago, beckie said:

Reinforce the values her MAMA instilled in her? Not her daddy the map watching preacher supposed head of the family? Boy does Jill have her whole family brainwashed!

David received the (and Kaylee) treatment.

“Since I was a young child, Mama (and Daddy as well)”

[AstridM]

45 minutes ago, Liddy52 said:

What is sickening me in Daddy Noyes post is where he says they pray for a young man who will be a "Godly leader" to Renee and will "reinforce those values your Mama has instilled". Because there is no way Renee can survive without someone to lead her and reinforce THOSE values. She has no brain, no values, no reason to exist without a man to lead her and reinforce Mommy Dearest's values. At best this viewpoint is insulting and at worst it is disturbing.  

Agree, it makes me fucking LIVID. 🤬

31 minutes ago, beckie said:

Reinforce the values her MAMA instilled in her? Not her daddy the map watching preacher supposed head of the family? Boy does Jill have her whole family brainwashed!

I noticed that, too. Hmmmm. 

[Westiepeach]

4 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Jill wrote that poem. And signed Renee’s name. I managed a few lines and rolled my eyes and quit reading.

Jill absolutely did not write that poem. It has been confirmed on several sites that someone with actual writing skills wrote that. Renee found that poem on line and posted it. It is not hers and it is not even remotely Jill’s.

Edited September 23 by Westiepeach

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, Westiepeach said:

Jill absolutely did not write that poem. It has been confirmed on several sites that someone with actual writing skills wrote that. Renee found that poem on line and posted it. It is not hers and it is not even remotely Jill’s.

Well that's sad to think about. So sad to think about others thinking the poem describes a good thing.

[oliviabenson]

So everyone is consoling the poo stirrer Jill? Even Tim Noyes? No one from Tim’s Rside is defending him, no one. And Tim R is the victim!

Bri is weird. A very desperate girl. Oof.

 

[satrunrose]

2 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Jill absolutely did not write that poem. It has been confirmed on several sites that someone with actual writing skills wrote that. Renee found that poem on line and posted it. It is not hers and it is not even remotely Jill’s.

Have any clever internet detectives found the original author or are we inferring? I'm 95% sure based on what we've seen of the kids (alleged) writing that it's plagiarised, but I kind of want Renee to have something that she's good at (subject matter and the fact that poems have meter, not just/necessarily rhyme notwithstanding). 

[mythoughtis]

4 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

So everyone is consoling the poo stirrer Jill? Even Tim Noyes? No one from Tim’s Rside is defending him, no one. And Tim R is the victim!

Bri is weird. A very desperate girl. Oof.

 

They don’t realize that Tim R is the victim because Jill removed every comment that was about her invading Tim and Heidi’s privacy. She’s made it appear as a war on Christian purity, and that Tim and Heidi have her permission to talk about them.  
 

Tim R has subtly let people who read his FB understand  the issue without saying a  word.  How?  By leaving negative comments from others about his Mom up.

[Heathen]

2 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Jill absolutely did not write that poem. It has been confirmed on several sites that someone with actual writing skills wrote that. Renee found that poem on line and posted it. It is not hers and it is not even remotely Jill’s.

Who is the "someone"? I don't think Renee wrote it, either, but just because a someone wrote it on a website doesn't make it true. 

I could write that Jill Noyes Rodrigues has exemplary style, but you guys (and anyone else who's ever seen her eyeliner and horrible clothes combinations) wouldn't take it for, um, gospel. You'd just think that I was the batshit-crazy one. 

[Salacious Kitty]

The poem was Renee's (sad) truth. I could see it posted on some church's website and Renee relating to it. 

Jill really called out the reserves this time. She's just succeeded in drawing a deeper line in the sand between her and Ellen. 

[ginger90]

I love them beyond description!  🥰🥰🥰  How many of you like shopping for cute, modest outfits?   If so, stay tuned!  We have a HUGE announcement to make soon!  😊  Jill & Daughters

[Salacious Kitty]

I saw them in the pink at church yesterday.

I suppose their news is that Sam and Brianne are engaged. Lord help him. 

It can't be FASHION related, can it? 😂

Edited September 24 by Salacious Kitty

[crazy8s]

24 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I saw them in the pink at church yesterday.

I suppose their news is that Sam and Brianne are engaged. Lord help him. 

It can't be FASHION related, can it? 😂

Maybe they bought Brianne a matching outfit 😂

[Madtown]

5 hours ago, AstridM said:

Reminder of how awful Jill has always been to Timothy 😢😢😢😡.

 

https://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/news-timothy-rodrigues-march-2016/

I would love to link this on Tim's FB page and remind him how his mother let the world know what a horrible child he was. I would tell him to make sure to read between the lines(if he even knows what that means). I would also let him know that many people defended him in the kissgate picture, but his psycho mahmo deleted all those comments.

Also, leave it to Jill to post a picture of her son, who was basically starving himself, nex to his father, who obviously had eaten many a meals and all the food Tim didn't.

I think Renee lives a miserable life. She proabably sits all day wondering when God will bring her the perfect godly man.

I never thought there would be someone in the Rod circle more nuts than Jill. Enter Bri..sheesh, she's quite something..

[Iguessnot]

14 minutes ago, Madtown said:

I would love to link this on Tim's FB page and remind him how his mother let the world know what a horrible child he was. I would tell him to make sure to read between the lines(if he even knows what that means). I would also let him know that many people defended him in the kissgate picture, but his psycho mahmo deleted all those comments.

Also, leave it to Jill to post a picture of her son, who was basically starving himself, nex to his father, who obviously had eaten many a meals and all the food Tim didn't.

I think Renee lives a miserable life. She proabably sits all day wondering when God will bring her the perfect godly man.

I never thought there would be someone in the Rod circle more nuts than Jill. Enter Bri..sheesh, she's quite something..

I don't think Tim needs that type of assurance. He has set boundaries and responded respectfully yet firmly. Jill is freaking out, but that's her problem. Great fodder for internet gossiping, and makes future family functions awkward, but otherwise I don't think he's stressing over his mom to that extent.

His sisters on the other hand, are in real trouble. They are just pod people with a leech as a mother.

[ALittleShelfish]

I know the reddit sub has a lot more of a "No, but seriously, Don't touch the poo! This time we mean it!" push lately, and I don't think this counts as reposted content - but did anyone catch the post w Hallie's tiktok (maybe an instagram story?)?  She said something like "I used to think y'all were crazy and over the top but ... I GET IT, now I GET IT. I'm LIVING it." or something like that.  

I could be crazy, it could be lack of sleep, it could be peri making me crazy.  I'm pretty sure I didn't make that up though.  

The only reason I'm posting this is because I had a totally made up moment today where I insisted I had a dentist appointment and when I got there, they said "no ma'am, you haven't been to this practice since 2015" and I'm hoping that was the only moment...

[Salacious Kitty]

Sorry that I loled about the dentist. 😀

But Hallie did say that, maybe Friday before she took the weekend off. Her SM is private now, but she's accepting friend requests on tiktok. 

eta Someone on Reddit used ChatGPT to find Renee's poem. Shocker, she plagiarized it. 

Edited September 24 by Salacious Kitty

[ALittleShelfish]

LOL i've done this before, too.  I called my *actual* dentist and said "imma be late...." So embarrassing.

Thanks for the info on Hallie's post - whew, i'm not crazy.   I don't follow any of the Rod-iverse on socials, just here and reddit.  Solid chance I just need to consume less Rod content overall though lol

[libgirl2]

9 hours ago, Madtown said:

I think Renee lives a miserable life. She proabably sits all day wondering when God will bring her the perfect godly man.

I never thought there would be someone in the Rod circle more nuts than Jill. Enter Bri..sheesh, she's quite something..

I think Renee is unhappy but of course she can't express that. Just keep smiling and performing. 

Bri is something else alright. Jill, be careful what you wish for. I think this one will give them a run for their money and not in a good way. 

[merylinkid]

10 hours ago, Iguessnot said:

I don't think Tim needs that type of assurance. He has set boundaries and responded respectfully yet firmly. Jill is freaking out, but that's her problem.

One of the reasons Jill is having a meltdown is that Tim did not rush to her defense.   He didn't say "Oh no, its fine she invaded our privacy, we wanted the world to know about our sex lives."   The fact he is not and actually holding  his boundaries is destroying her.   She knows she lost control of him.   We can't have that in Jilly World.   

But yeah, the poor kids left at home and Kaylee, they are bearing the brunt of Jill's unhinged behavior right now.   At least Nurie can go home to Florida -- and claim Nemo must have turned off the ringer on her phone when he was playing with it when she doesn't answer Jill's calls.   

[Vantraveller]

19 hours ago, ginger90 said:

 

Dearest Renee,   In an intense time of spiritual attack, this poem was so encouraging to me!  <3  When I went to FB and saw this, I was brought to tears.  Thank you, my darling daughter!  Also, your talent is absolutely INCREDIBLE!   God has gifted you in SO many ways and I am thankful that you so passionately use those gifts for God!  🥰  I love you, my sweet daughter, to your favorite star and back again, and I cannot wait to watch how (and already is) He is going to mightily use you for His glory!  🥰😊❤️  Mama

So how did it get on Jill's FB page? She acts like she went to her page and there was a post there she didn't know about. She's such a lying liar.

[crazy8s]

12 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I love them beyond description!  🥰🥰🥰  How many of you like shopping for cute, modest outfits?   If so, stay tuned!  We have a HUGE announcement to make soon!  😊  Jill & Daughters

I hope Jill is not going for The Rodrigues Sisters Boutique.

 

[AstridM]

12 hours ago, Madtown said:

I would love to link this on Tim's FB page and remind him how his mother let the world know what a horrible child he was. I would tell him to make sure to read between the lines(if he even knows what that means). I would also let him know that many people defended him in the kissgate picture, but his psycho mahmo deleted all those comments.

Also, leave it to Jill to post a picture of her son, who was basically starving himself, nex to his father, who obviously had eaten many a meals and all the food Tim didn't.

I think Renee lives a miserable life. She proabably sits all day wondering when God will bring her the perfect godly man.

I never thought there would be someone in the Rod circle more nuts than Jill. Enter Bri..sheesh, she's quite something..

You know, I hadn’t thought about the possibility that Timothy might not even be aware of what Jill wrote about him in 2016. 

3 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

I think Renee is unhappy but of course she can't express that. Just keep smiling and performing. 

Bri is something else alright. Jill, be careful what you wish for. I think this one will give them a run for their money and not in a good way. 

Something else, indeed! Did you read the recent Reddit AMA?

Edited September 24 by AstridM