Giuliano Lanzilli June 8, 2015 Share June 8, 2015 (edited) But did Jessica really break into Spencer's room or was Spencer just imagining it? Did she just teleport herself across the street in someone else's house without anyone noticing, not to mention that she seemed to disappear at the drop of a hat like a ghost when Spencer turned around! Ahahahah I swear this show is pure sci-fi: there's no consistency or realism whatsoever in the plots, it's all for shock value!!! Edited June 8, 2015 by Giuliano Lanzilli 1 Link to comment
raytch June 8, 2015 Share June 8, 2015 Yeah I still have no idea what that was about. Just a scare for the audience I guess because Spencer didn't even see her there. I don't think she imagined it. Still it was hilarious. Mrs. D does creepy so well! I read somewhere that she looks like Martha Stewart about to murder you with her gardening scissors. That always cracked me up. Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 http://m.imgur.com/gjsHTKU Spoilers from reddit for Season 6. Mostly 6A. They haven't filmed 6x10 yet, but you can figure out the missing piece of the puzzle if these are right. They seem to make sense imo. Link to comment
ottoDbusdriver June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 http://m.imgur.com/gjsHTKUSpoilers from reddit for Season 6. Mostly 6A. They haven't filmed 6x10 yet, but you can figure out the missing piece of the puzzle if these are right. They seem to make sense imo. There is a whole lot of WTF in that link. 7 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 The fact that it is confusing kinda makes it seem sorta plausible. Plus, I can see some stuff happening like the Wren stuff, the Aria stuff, Andrew, and the Uber A. If Wren is Charles it makes sense. It also makes sense about poor Spencer. Link to comment
rho June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 http://m.imgur.com/gjsHTKU Spoilers from reddit for Season 6. Mostly 6A. They haven't filmed 6x10 yet, but you can figure out the missing piece of the puzzle if these are right. They seem to make sense imo. There is a whole lot of WTF in that link. I agree, which is why I think it's exactly what the writers are planning. Summer of Answers my ass. At this point the only question I want answered is how Holden is doing with his life-threatening heart condition. And does anyone know if Caleb ever ended up taking his GED test? 3 Link to comment
raytch June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 (edited) These seem more like speculations. From 6x01 we know that Toby did not find the dollhouse, Caleb, Ezra and Ali did. And from Sasha's interview a few days ago, she said Ali is A's ultimate fantasy, so it cancels out the Mona part. I would die of joy if Charles is Wren and Ezra is his helper ("Charles is Big A but one of your favorites is his partner in crime) And the part about Aria and Ali being related and Wren being adopted by her uncle Scott is intriguing. I wrote yesterday on a different thread that if Wren is Charles he has to be on the Montgomery's side because of how all the clues are set. So I guess he could be a Dilaurentis and they gave him up for adoption to the Montgomery family but then Scott went crazy and "replaced the dinner table with the chaos in his head" or something. Edited June 9, 2015 by raytch 3 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 It would make the Ali flashback /hallucination of her telling Aria "you know why I picked you, right?" actually make sense. Because I know it wasn't for poetry. 1 Link to comment
raytch June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 (edited) It would make the Ali flashback /hallucination of her telling Aria "you know why I picked you, right?" actually make sense. Because I know it wasn't for poetry. EXACTLY Even in season 5, when Mona explains to the girls how Ali collected them (smart, loyal, I forgot Hanna's adjective), compassionate for Aria seemed too general, and I remember Aria being puzzled by it. Edited June 9, 2015 by raytch 1 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 Lol. If anything Emily is /was the compassionate one. Aria has the photography skills. That also kind of ties into NAT, which has been dropped sort of. And Aria has a penchant for older, forbidden men. Just like Ali. Also, true crime book, my ass Fitz. 2 Link to comment
raytch June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 Lol. If anything Emily is /was the compassionate one. Aria has the photography skills. That also kind of ties into NAT, which has been dropped sort of. And Aria has a penchant for older, forbidden men. Just like Ali. Also, true crime book, my ass Fitz. I can't understand how they're trying to sell Ezria as #truelove in a show that is so centered around female agency and what it's like to be a woman in an objectifying male society. If those spoilers above are true, and they do get married and Aria doesn't go to college... well that would be a very misogynist move. Especially that of all the liars (aside from Ali), she's the one who's always trying to be a grown up, independent person. Link to comment
Jack Shaftoe June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 Especially that of all the liars (aside from Ali), she's the one who's always trying to be a grown up, independent person. More like pretending, not trying, IMO. And in any event, Spencer generally behaves much more like a grown up than Aria. Those spoilers look about as believable as an igloo in the Sahara but I will laugh a lot if the one about Wren is true. So he isn't a doctor but worked for like every medical institution in Rosewood. :) 3 Link to comment
dwmckim June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 Wren's doctor status has been in question for a while since Hanna saw the white board in (Holbrook's?) office with the note: "Dr" Wren 3 Link to comment
ottoDbusdriver June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 (edited) Those spoilers look about as believable as an igloo in the Sahara I can't believe why in the hell they would drag Talia and Leslie back into the fray ? Aside from filler to pad out the episodes. Edited June 9, 2015 by ottoDbusdriver 2 Link to comment
raytch June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 Jack Shaftoe, pretending is a much better word I agree. I just meant that she's in such a hurry to be a grownup and her own person. Did people like Talia? Like were we supposed to take her seriously in any way? Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 Mona corrected Wren's spelling before, and for a doctor, he's gone from specialty to specialty like A goes through team members. Not to mention writing scripts like candy. So maybe Wren was a patient or visitor or outpatient pretending to be a doctor. It's not like a dude lying in Rosewood would be a shocker. I'm kinda ..... where are Caleb/Hanna spoilers? I'm going to continue to keep an eye out for those. I would buy Caleb being a Detective after the time jump, but no way would he give any fucks about Ali. Link to comment
raytch June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 But Caleb and Ali share a common history of being hobos! 2 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 9, 2015 Share June 9, 2015 I'll always love Caleb for the shade he gave Ali during the Rosewood High Magical Test of Knowledge. 1 Link to comment
Cranberry June 10, 2015 Author Share June 10, 2015 Are these spoilers from the same person as the finale ones were? Those were spot-on (right? I didn't check back after the finale), but these seem weirder and badly-worded. I like some of them and I don't like some of them. 1 Link to comment
lorikauai June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Aria's BARF shirt in tonight's episode was right on the money if it was foreshadowing an Ezria wedding. 2 Link to comment
raytch June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Are these spoilers from the same person as the finale ones were? Those were spot-on (right? I didn't check back after the finale), but these seem weirder and badly-worded. I like some of them and I don't like some of them. No they seem to be anonymous or something. I keep finding that photo on reddit, twitter, and instagram... but I can't find the exact source it originally came from. Link to comment
RedInk June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Well two of the spoilers panned out as of last night: Andrew was in custody, and Ali started a relationship with the new cop. Obviously, if the show presents an adult authority figure, one of the high school girls will be involved with him/her, but the spoiler accurately picked the girl. Im kind of rooting on these to be true. Link to comment
raytch June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 Yeah but if you read interviews with the actors and show runners, they already said some of these things will happen. So my guess is it's a mix of spoilers and speculation based on the spoilers given by the actors / show runners. Link to comment
truthaboutluv June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 (edited) I checked out of this show somewhere in Season 3 because I just couldn't deal with the constant red herrings and dropped storylines/characters and convoluted stuff anymore. I always knew I would come back when they were finally going to reveal who A truly was and so when I read some interviews before this season and found out that there would be no more bullshit and they would answer the question, I decided to start watching again. Incidentally I have no desire to watch the seasons I missed because I doubt anything of significance happened. All that said, I have believed Wren was A since Season 1 and continue to believe so and so these spoilers above seem more than legitimate to me. And well I hope they pan out because I love being right. Once I heard about this "Charles" no one knows and we still don't really know what he looks like, I felt that it was likely Wren. To me Wren has always made the most sense for two reasons, one, he was on the show from the beginning so he is a character viewers know and two, while he was on the show from the beginning, he's never been a permanent fixture. He's come in and out a few times so enough for some viewers to forget about him and be truly shocked when the reveal happens but then still be able to think, "oh it makes sense" based on the few things we did know about him. Also, he's expendable as a character which makes him perfect. And I say this as someone who actually loved Wren and Spencer and think they had way more chemistry than she has ever had with the block of wood that is Toby. And I also am not sure that that was the plan from the beginning if it turns out be so but I definitely think him being A makes sense and won't be one of those big reveal from shows that leaves many viewers thinking "that makes zero sense...." e.g. Dan as Gossip Girl. I mean I'm sure there will be some holes but I think it's a plot twist that can really work. Edited June 10, 2015 by truthaboutluv 1 Link to comment
mercfan3 June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 BTW: Those spoilers are inaccurate already. Toby didn't find the dollhouse, Ezra/Ali/Caleb found the dollhouse. But if that was a minor mistake, and the rest are true..IMO..it points to Wren or CeCe being big A, and either Paige or Ezra being the helper. 1 Link to comment
Lady Calypso June 10, 2015 Share June 10, 2015 A lot of that I had to re-read just to understand it all, but the sad part is that I can believe almost all of them. Mona knowing who Big A is, Big A being Wren/Charles, Spencer being adopted and Ezra/Wren working together are especially believable. The only spoiler I don't buy is the whole season 7 is life without A. Like, please. They may be able to get away with that for five episodes, max. They'd bring A back in a heartbeat, because they can't keep them gone for long. Also, they say Uber A will die before season 7? Ok, let's see THAT happen, then, because I don't buy it. Season 7 also needs to be the final season because if they are killing off A, they need to stay dead and not reappear in the season 7 finale...or worse, a new 'A' named....B. 1 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 11, 2015 Share June 11, 2015 Wren being A++++ makes Tippi the bird a really clever clue. Also, the whole A sees all and knows all. Birds fly over all and "see" all. Wren is a name for bird. Bird is also British slang for cute girl. Why PLL writers, you may have done something clever after all! Now watch A++++ be Mona or Byron or Mike because. ..... just...... because. Or E Lamb. "You monstrous girls kept treating me like your personal door man! And I hate board games!" Hoodie out! 1 Link to comment
DigitalCount June 11, 2015 Share June 11, 2015 Why can't Aria be trusted? I feel like this is probably mostly nonsense or spec. 1 Link to comment
raytch June 11, 2015 Share June 11, 2015 (edited) Why can't Aria be trusted? I feel like this is probably mostly nonsense or spec. I think because she might be related to Charles or Bethany. With her family's history with mental illness and their violent outbursts, it pretty much matches what Wren said about his family background. The family drawing at the barn that he carries around while doing a psych evaluation for Mona, and later colors the woman's coat in red... weirdly enough the family in the picture points to the Montgomery (the woman has black hair, the girl is older than the boy). Another possible connection is Bethany's drawings that we see in season 5. There's one that shows a monster taking away a boy and a girl running behind, and the house looks like the Montgomery with the hanging lamps and the porch... She's also the only one who has never shared a scene with Wren of all the liars. And as GrrPants09 mentioned above, Ali tells her "you know why I picked you, right?" I don't know how involved or untrustworthy this would make her, but they're interesting connections nonetheless. Edited June 11, 2015 by raytch Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 11, 2015 Share June 11, 2015 And also nothing (compared to the other girls) really happens to Aria. Say you're A (and you decide to use your infinite cashflow to torture Rosewood ), I'd go after the girl sleeping with her teacher before the one with the supportive mom, the lawyer mom, or the one with freaking gun safe in the attic. Especially when Teacher Boyfriend apparently has his own lair and a key under the mat. Besides, Aria's name starts with and ends with "A". It'd be easy as hell to just frame her for everything. 4 Link to comment
rho June 11, 2015 Share June 11, 2015 Besides, Aria's name starts with and ends with "A". It'd be easy as hell to just frame her for everything. OMG! That would be ideal. I doubt the show would end without redeeming all four girls but I would love if they just lock up Aria, guilty or otherwise. 2 Link to comment
Jack Shaftoe June 11, 2015 Share June 11, 2015 (edited) Say you're A (and you decide to use your infinite cashflow to torture Rosewood ), I'd go after the girl sleeping with her teacher before the one with the supportive mom, the lawyer mom, or the one with freaking gun safe in the attic. My pet theory is that A is just bored of Aria as many viewers are, so he/she only torture her when he/she gets really tired of tormenting the other three Liars. :) Either that, or A was just your average Rosewood guy perving on teens who decided to spy on the Liars and became a violent psychopath after listening to one Ezra/Aria "romantic" conversation too many. And subsequently he decided that dating Ezra constitutes torture in its own right, so he went easy on Aria. Edited June 11, 2015 by Jack Shaftoe 5 Link to comment
mercfan3 June 11, 2015 Share June 11, 2015 To be fair, Ezra was a pervert in his own right (even more than initially suspected). With his spying and his "books" and knowing Ali and not saying anything..Letting them stay together was a better form of torture Thinking about it, Aria doesn't really do things that A can REALLY use. She dated her teacher...that's about it. Plus, her parents let her do whatever she wants anyway..honestly, I don't know why she lies so much. That being said, the time A almost killed Mike was, to me, one of the worst things A had ever done to a liar, prior to the dollhouse. Link to comment
Chairperson Meow June 12, 2015 Share June 12, 2015 I kinda thought Hanna getting run over, and Spencer being dropped in the woods thinking Toby was dead, oh and Emily and the HGH hormones was worse. Aria has had it too good for too long. Link to comment
Spencer Hastings June 12, 2015 Share June 12, 2015 Thinking about it, Aria doesn't really do things that A can REALLY use. She dated her teacher...that's about it. Plus, her parents let her do whatever she wants anyway..honestly, I don't know why she lies so much. That being said, the time A almost killed Mike was, to me, one of the worst things A had ever done to a liar, prior to the dollhouse. Unless A really is a long lost family member who is jealous of Mike and Aria's relationship. A has gone after all of their family members at some point or another. When you stack all of that plus the other things that have happened, Aria really is coming up short in comparison. 2 Link to comment
Jack Shaftoe June 12, 2015 Share June 12, 2015 (edited) Thinking about it, Aria doesn't really do things that A can REALLY use. She dated her teacher...that's about it. Yet we have seen time and again that Aria would do just about anything to protect her star-crossed romance. I mean, she blackmailed her own father without any need for A to do a thing. Of course A could have used that attitude of hers, if he/she really wanted to. It would have been so much easier than making the effort to lure the other girls into blackmail material situations or going as far as say monitor Ashley at her workplace in search for incriminating information. Edited June 12, 2015 by Jack Shaftoe Link to comment
mercfan3 June 13, 2015 Share June 13, 2015 Unless A really is a long lost family member who is jealous of Mike and Aria's relationship. A has gone after all of their family members at some point or another. When you stack all of that plus the other things that have happened, Aria really is coming up short in comparison. She definitely is. But I don't remember A ever trying to kill one of the girl's family members. (And in fact, the biggest attack to one, physically..was with Aria's mother.) Aria's family is what she cares most about, so A does go after that. But at the same time, they all did enough to screw up their family themselves..A didn't have to help. Link to comment
dwmckim June 14, 2015 Share June 14, 2015 So apparently there's a new leaked script circulating around out there - anyone got the link? Link to comment
raytch June 14, 2015 Share June 14, 2015 Yeah I saw it on twitter here it is : https://mobile.twitter.com/BigAReveAled Though it's not a transcript just a few questions with answers so it could be fake Also found this on the Ali Toby scene : https://mobile.twitter.com/norbuck/status/609837020542730241 And for those who care to dig deeper, a photo of the birth announcements in the soul room : https://mobile.twitter.com/WilliamDebiasio/status/608453077847408640 I swear the first name seems like Jenna Marshall and the other like Bethany (can't read the last name though) Which is particularly interesting because there's a scene from a flashback when Jenna was just moving in to Rosewood and there's all these boxes and on one of them is written Bethany. I don't know. We've been thinking that Bethany is related to Charles/ the Dilaurentises , but what if she was related to the Cavanaughs? The spoilers above say Jenna is Red Coat Link to comment
Jack Shaftoe June 14, 2015 Share June 14, 2015 (edited) Those spoilers are kind of hilarious, in a so-bad-it's-good way. Emily hit Bethany with a shovel? The who in the what now? "Why was Bethany Young killed? As a body to mimic Alison or another reason? No reason." Emily is killing people with a shovel for no reason now? That's cold, Em. Ian is not dead? I miss him but enough with resurrecting characters already. Edited June 14, 2015 by Jack Shaftoe 1 Link to comment
raytch June 14, 2015 Share June 14, 2015 Those spoilers are kind of hilarious, in a so-bad-it's-good way. Emily hit Bethany with a shovel? The who in the what now? "Why was Bethany Young killed? As a body to mimic Alison or another reason? No reason." Emily is killing people with a shovel for no reason now? That's cold, Em. Ian is not dead? I miss him but enough with resurrecting characters already. Yeah the no reason part made me giggle Also the very long question about Lucas' envolvement etc... The answer is plain No. No what? I don't mean to bash the person who wrote this but their English is a bit confusing! Link to comment
Giuliano Lanzilli June 14, 2015 Share June 14, 2015 Yeah the no reason part made me giggle Also the very long question about Lucas' envolvement etc... The answer is plain No. No what? I don't mean to bash the person who wrote this but their English is a bit confusing! But Lucas was the one that gave Emily that back rub at the spa, so we already know for sure he's involved in the A-Team! So why "no"? XD I think the plots on this show are mind-boggling enough without any bored trolls making up nonsense to throw us off! Link to comment
raytch June 14, 2015 Share June 14, 2015 But Lucas was the one that gave Emily that back rub at the spa, so we already know for sure he's involved in the A-Team! So why "no"? XD I think the plots on this show are mind-boggling enough without any bored trolls making up nonsense to throw us off! I think it just means he's no longer involved with the A shenanigans. Link to comment
mercfan3 June 15, 2015 Share June 15, 2015 My theory has always been that Toby's mother and Ali's mother are the twins, bethany being Toby's half sister, and his mother's daughter (I don't know about CHarles though..granted, it would make sense if Charles is Bethany's brother..) 1 Link to comment
Watt June 18, 2015 Share June 18, 2015 I haven't really been paying much attention but are they really going to do a four year time jump? Thats a long time. College graduates will be a much different show than a bunch of high school girls. Link to comment
methodwriter85 June 18, 2015 Share June 18, 2015 I haven't really been paying much attention but are they really going to do a four year time jump? Thats a long time. College graduates will be a much different show than a bunch of high school girls. Not when it's high school girls who look 25 years old. 1 Link to comment
Watt June 18, 2015 Share June 18, 2015 No,I mean, in themes. They could do much more mature themes. I guess it's still ABC family, but still. Who knows. I think it's a great idea anyway. 1 Link to comment
raytch June 19, 2015 Share June 19, 2015 http://m.imdb.com/title/tt4575924/fullcredits/cast?ref_=m_tt_cl_sc Who the heck is this guy? And why is Sydney credited as Dede Drake? Link to comment
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