S05.E13: Sister Act

[motorcitymom65]

 

 

 

This gets repeated fairly often, but I don't believe that there's any truth to it. Honestly, what kind of pull could Kyle possibly have to have Kim stay on the show?

 

I've never believed it either, and have searched and searched on line and have never been able to find where it has ever been uttered by anyone. I have thought since S1 that Kyle would probably like it better if Kim weren't on the show. She is never going to be able to win and the fans have spoken over the years that watching their dynamic isn't particularly interesting. The only reason the ratings are good right now is that we are throwing in the drama with Brandi. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

So did Yo get that Brandi was horribly throwing out the accusation that her daughter is an alcoholic?  She said in her TH she was only trying to help Brandi & yet she was "stabbing" at her, but did she get at that point just how awful what Brandi said was?  Cuz  I don't think she did.  

 

Man, if she said that about my daughter, I'd kick her the fuck outta my house immediately & never speak to her again.  Yo, WTF???  You're gonna let her put out that your daughter is an alcoholic?  I'm more disturbed by Yo than I am by Brandi.  Why the hell didn't Yo boot her outta her house after Brandi not-so-indirectly suggested her daughter is an alcoholic?  That was beyond heinous.

 

Eileen's heart & motives seemed in the right place, but this is way out of her depth.  These 2 can only be helped by professionals -- if they can be helped at all.  But yeah, Kyle is right -- and I'm sure many of us have been there.  At a certain point, when dealing with difficult shit with family members, you do throw your hands up & wanna give up.

[njbchlover]

The extended version of a conversation between Brandi and Kim after the mixer. The way that Brandi tries to manipulate Kim (at least IMO) is sickening to me.  Check out the end where she asks Kim if Kathy would ever treat her like this. 

 

FYI...the place where Brandi says that Kyle is a 45 year old woman and should be embarrassed for acting that way reminded me - for some reason - of a gal stumbling down a sidewalk with her tampon string hanging out. She is right in that Kyle should probably be embarrassed, but it is stunning that Brandi would ever call attention to someone else's shame. 

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/videos/the-extended-scenes-of-beverly-hills?clip=3000039

 

Seriously...Brandi needs to stop calling the other women out on their ages - she continues to think that she is still in her 20's, and they are all sooo much older than her!! 

Another example of Brandi's stunted growth and development.

[Umbelina]

Brandi didn't say Bella was an alcoholic.  She said OTHER people said that, and that both she and Yo knew that wasn't true.

 

I'm not saying she didn't deflect in a low way, but let's get it right.

A few of gossip rags did have headlines like that though. 

[njbchlover]

I'm so tired of the sisters' saga. Kyle and Kim make Ladies Edith and Mary Crawley look like loving siblings.

 

Me, too....didn't the women promise us a "lighter" and "more fun" season this time around??  This is definitely going to dark places that I really don't care to see.

[bagger]

 

This gets repeated fairly often, but I don't believe that there's any truth to it. Honestly, what kind of pull could Kyle possibly have to have Kim stay on the show?

I don't know how true it is or not. I can see where they wouldn't want to lose Kyle because like her or not, she is an anchor on this show. She, LisaV and Kim are the only ones left from that original cast. When LisaV and Kyle get along they're favorites and when they're not getting along they polarize the audience and are still a pull for their audience.

 

Whether the stories are true or not I can still see where the producers might not want to risk losing Kyle. Not that I believe for one minute that Kyle would ever leave should Kim get fired.

[hypnotoad]

 

I would have expected Lisa and Pandora to be more enlightened and realize Max's interest in his birth family has nothing to do with them

 

Lisa did say that in one of her TH's

 

 

I think Brandi IS scared for Kim, and knows she's in over her head, as she said.

 

I don't buy that at all. If Brandi were truly afraid for Kim, she would flat out have a real conversation with Kyle rather than bait her about 2am phone calls. She would not be working over time to tell Kim that she is the only one there for her and so forth. Brandi is all about Brandi and what dirt she can sling.

 

 

Now she is using that to bash Kyle over the head about it because she knows that Kyle will not talk about it no matter how hard Brandi tries to trip her up!

 

I have noticed that over the last couple of episodes. I also noticed Brandi had to get in another 'Kyle was drunk' statements out there. Honestly, until Kyle is photographed stumbling around with a tampon string hanging out, Brandi needs to shut up about this. Her attempts to get everyone to stop noticing her drunken behavior and push it onto someone else is so obvious it's painful. Really she's going to toss Yo's kid under the bus too? Listen drunk driving is serious for sure, but Bella (that was the one right?) is 20 and sometimes young adults do stupid things. Brandi is too old to still be acting this way.

 

 

Brandi didn't say Bella was an alcoholic.  She said OTHER people said that, and that both she and Yo knew that wasn't true.

 

Low low low. She knew exactly what she was doing. Yo was actually confronting her and Brandi can't have that, so time to make it seem like everyone is calling Bella an alcoholic.

Edited February 11, 2015 by hypnotoad

[Llama]

The extended version of a conversation between Brandi and Kim after the mixer. The way that Brandi tries to manipulate Kim (at least IMO) is sickening to me.  Check out the end where she asks Kim if Kathy would ever treat her like this. 

 

FYI...the place where Brandi says that Kyle is a 45 year old woman and should be embarrassed for acting that way reminded me - for some reason - of a gal stumbling down a sidewalk with her tampon string hanging out. She is right in that Kyle should probably be embarrassed, but it is stunning that Brandi would ever call attention to someone else's shame. 

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/videos/the-extended-scenes-of-beverly-hills?clip=3000039

I can't even find the words!!! Rage!!!

[thefog]

BRAVO's priority is ratings and making $.   If they had any moral conscience, they would stop exploiting Kim for the sake of a storyline - and boot her off the show.  Which is really the best thing for her sobriety.  The housewife toxic environment cannot be healthy for her.  Kim is sick.  She needs help - away from the cameras, away from the vultures.  And I'm not just talking about Brandi here.  I'm looking at you Andy Cohen.

Edited February 11, 2015 by escape

[zoeysmom]

I am actually beginning to get a little uncomfortable with Lisa R and her interest in Kim's issues. She is 100% correct, yet I cannot get past a strange feeling I got when she was going on and on about it. Am I crazy?

If I heard right, Brandi pretty much confirmed that she knows Kim is not sober. It is strange how she has spent so much time over the last few months talking about how Kyle wanted to out her again, when it seems as though Brandi is the one who has done this.

Has anyone seen the lost footage over on the Bravo site that claims Kim tells Brandi what she is mad at Kyle about?  I can't get it to play.

 

Somehow Brandi will try and say Kyle made her say it.

[WireWrap]

Yeah, I do think Lipsa is being Kyle's mouthpiece, since Kyle doesn't want the kind of backlash she had after verbally and physically attacking Kim in the limo.  I think she'd LOVE to, but wants to be popular more.

 

I think Lipsa drew Brandi out though.  She did say she's never seen Kim slip, or take a pill, but Lipsa kept pushing, and I think Brandi IS scared for Kim, and knows she's in over her head, as she said. 

Ummm, Brandi says she has never seen Kim take a pill or drink then says she is using a "patch" for her hernia! Patch as in a Pain Patch, a narcotic pain patch..... Umm HELLO!!!!

 

 

The extended version of a conversation between Brandi and Kim after the mixer. The way that Brandi tries to manipulate Kim (at least IMO) is sickening to me.  Check out the end where she asks Kim if Kathy would ever treat her like this. 

 

FYI...the place where Brandi says that Kyle is a 45 year old woman and should be embarrassed for acting that way reminded me - for some reason - of a gal stumbling down a sidewalk with her tampon string hanging out. She is right in that Kyle should probably be embarrassed, but it is stunning that Brandi would ever call attention to someone else's shame. 

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/videos/the-extended-scenes-of-beverly-hills?clip=3000039

Funny how Brandi lectures Kim that Kyle is not acting like a "good" sister and that is not how family acts. Isn't she the same woman that exposed her sisters molestation to the public on her podcast, the same woman that is estranged from her very own sister? Brandi is really setting Kim/Kyle up for her to take them down and Kim is helping her do it.

[autumnh]

I dislike how purportedly Bravo has allowed Kyle to extort them into keeping her sister on the show. I don't know if LisaR is genuinely concerned (I really do like her quite a bit) or if her insistence on calling Kim out is in reality the producers trying to force the Richards sisters' hand and "force" Kim to quit in an attempt to stop speculation. She seems to be miserable more so now that it seems her addiction is front and center.

 

Well of course she does...any addict does not want to be put into the spotlight....I know that the purpose of the RH shows are entertainment...but for those of us who have survived addiction whether it be personal or with someone we love, the almost exploitative way in how they have handled it for ratings (sorry....best way I can explain it on the fly) is disheartening....I understand their need for ratings but to gloss over the true tragedy and struggle of addiction is horrible....especially for those of us who did all we could to save our loved ones. 

 

Please...if you feel I am being too deep...I am fully aware of it...for some of us? it really does run that deep.

Edited February 11, 2015 by autumnh

[zoeysmom]

Brandi was definitely throwing all the other HWs in the fire with Yo, saying "well, you know, everyone...."

The exact same words Brandi used as an excuse when she brought up the Mauricio cheating rumors.  "Everyone was talking about it behind her back." 

[SwordQueen]

Just watched the extended scene, thanks motorcitymom65.

 

So Brandi and Kim drive me nuts because they seem to talk in circles.  Circles of enablement and booze.  First Brandi says that Kyle is unhealthy for Km (not untrue) and that Kim needs to separate herself from Kyle to stop the drama (again, not untrue), but then she goes and says that family is everything and without it you have nothing. 

 

So, whut?  

[ScoobieDoobs]

Brandi didn't say Bella was an alcoholic.  She said OTHER people said that, and that both she and Yo knew that wasn't true.

I'm not saying she didn't deflect in a low way, but let's get it right.

 

 

You're absolutely right.  She said it an indirect way -- in a way I'm sure she knew could easily be edited to sound like she's saying Bella is an alcoholic.  Ugh, she's evil.

 

But let's take her statement for it what was --- EXACTLY as she stated it.  OK, so why in the fuckety fuck did Brandi say this anyway?  She only said it after Yo talked about her getting drunk & behaving like an asshole.  She didn't like Yo talking about her drinking, so she said this shit about "other people" saying her daughter is an alcoholic.  

 

Yo called her on this bullshit right away by asking her, "What other people?"  And Yo said she never heard of anyone ever saying this.  That's cuz probably nobody has ever said this & Brandi just made it up on the spot cuz she's a mean, nasty, thoughtless asshole -- and to start a completely untrue rumor by broadcasting it on the show to a national audience.  Yo should rightly be furious at her for doing this.

Edited February 11, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[WireWrap]

Brandi didn't say Bella was an alcoholic.  She said OTHER people said that, and that both she and Yo knew that wasn't true.

 

I'm not saying she didn't deflect in a low way, but let's get it right.

A few of gossip rags did have headlines like that though. 

It was a few months after Bella's DUI that there was any speculation about Bella's drinking habits in the tabloids or in blogs. That would have been after this episode was filmed. Brandi was once again trying to make someone else look worse than her and she trying to shame another HW, this time Yolanda, into silence. She said that to Yolanda as a warning IMO and Yolanda got the message loud and clear!

[cooksdelight]

Would pay to see Brandi's reaction if Kyle or Yo said to her, "Well, others are saying your oldest son is snorting Scooby Snax...."

Brandi would GO OFF! Totally have a STFU meltdown.

[Persnickety1]

It is possible that Kim did talk about killing herself but I don't think Brandi told Kyle this or she did, then said Kim was fine now and swore her to secrecy.  Now she is using that to bash Kyle over the head about it because she knows that Kyle will not talk about it no matter how hard Brandi tries to trip her up!

 

I am sorry for your loss. Yes, Kim is an addict and she does not want to get clean.

 

I think Lisa knows enough to realize that Kyle will never say any of this on the show and has decided to do it for her, with or without her blessing.

 

I wonder how Kim felt hearing Brandi out that she is using a pain "patch" for her ??hernia??! Even Brandi hesitated when she said that she is using it for her hernia. Pain patches are not given for hernias unless that person is in a hospital. I think Kim is using Monty's pain patch, not 1 that she was prescribed. I do not see any good/ethically sound DR willingly prescribing a pain patch for an addict, none! Maybe Kim is going to  "Dr. Feel Good"!

 

Which could very well be a fentanyl patch.

 

Andddddd she's apparently popping pain pills on top of having a fentayl patch?

 

Damn, speaking of body bags...If Kim's fucking around with fentanyl and supplementing it with Monty's oral pain meds, someone might want to start monogramming hers.  

Edited February 11, 2015 by Persnickety1

[SwordQueen]

Would pay to see Brandi's reaction if Kyle or Yo said to her, "Well, others are saying your oldest son is snorting Scooby Snax...."

Brandi would GO OFF! Totally have a STFU meltdown.

 

Didn't she do that once already when she got shit for her son whipping it out and peeing on Adrienne's lawn?   She must have forgotten how that felt, though, to have her kid's actions thrown back at her. 

[Katesus7]

I'm going to make this as superficial as possible, because I am way too tired about the Kim/Kyle/addict drama. I think Brandi is all superficial, so I will talk about her.

LOVED the trip to the Burbank Film Festival. I think the reason I liked it so much is because I truly like Eileen, I think she sees it as what it is, and was probably laughing along with me at Kyle's and the Lisa's reactions to the whole thing. I loved them overrulling the chicken tenders and going with the hot dogs. I loved the whole thing. Man, I wish this show could be focused on these four. I think they'd have a lot of fun together.

I side eye Lisa V a lot of the time, but I am liking this story of her son finding out about himself. And it IS a story. Crafted by her and her son. But they both are on board, they seem to be honest in their conversations, so I liked it. It's an interesting perspective for me, since I have very little experience with adopted parents or children. I feel no desire or need to judge any of it, I just like watching it.

As for Brandi. Every scene I watch her on this show, I want to know what's going on in her mind. What her rationale is, how she thinks what she is doing is going to keep her relevant and on the show longer. I mean, come on, she spelled it out to us tonight. That as long as people talk about you, it's fine, it's when they stop talking about you that you have to worry. That's been her whole purpose the entire time she's been on this show. I no longer think of her as an actual person with actual feelings and stuff.

I just want to know what her mindset was tonight. I mean, I know she obviously thought going against Kyle with Kim at her side was a slam dunk. Kyle was unpopular, Kim had sympathy being a 'recovering' addict, Lisa V didn't even like Kyle last season, piece of cake. What I can't figure out is her angle with Lisa R. when she completely outed Kim. First, it goes against her narrative of Kyle outing Kim, so does her no favors. Did she think that LIsa R. was an ally she desperately needed? Maybe this happened after the awkward yoga session with Yolanda, and she was feeling vulnerable.

The only thing I'll mention about the Kyle/Kim drama. Eileen, honey, what were you thinking?? I think she knew she was fucked about five minutes in, but then didn't know what to do. She should've said "Oh, hey, sorry, didn't realize the crazy I was dealing with, y'all have fun, bye!" When those two get going, there's nothing anyone else can do but just slowly back away.

[Harleycat]

Yeah, I think it's a combination of both fear and resentment.  Kim may have had more fame than Kyle growing up but in the end,  Kyle got the happy ending.  Kim is both jealous and resentful of this.  So is Brandi.  Then add that Kyle is Kim's truth cannon.  She knows, after so many years, that Kyle can see through all the BS.  I have no doubt that Kim 'does' love Kyle but she can't deal with the reality.  So, she is at the point of trying to put Kyle down to make her feel better about herself.  Brandi is the perfect foil for this.  Kyle is letting it happen because she is still that insecure and can't walk away.  Kyle is getting close,  Very close.  And I hope she does.  She's not responsible for Kim.  I think Moma bear mode (Kim blaming Alexia for getting bitten by Kingsley)  has put her closer to the line than anything.  It's obvious that Kyle adores her children and Kim's statements about that incident....you don't do that to moma bear.   Brandi doesn't 'get' that either.

I think it's funny how everyone thinks of Kyle as the "successful one". So Kyle has a marriage, so what. Why would Kim be jealous of Kyle? Think about it, their other sister is Kathy Hilton. They run in circles with extremely wealthy people, and yet Kim should be so jealous of Kyle because she is married and has a family? To me it seems like Kyle paints herself as being the one who is successful to make herself feel better. Bravo helps pay for things for her to help perpectuate this image of a highly successful person because they want drama. 

 

Kyle and Moricio are the least successful people on the show, besides Kim and Brandi. And it is Kyle who is constantly putting Kim down to others, not the other way around. Kim has confided in Brandi, and it pisses Kyle off, but she needs to get over it. 

[cooksdelight]

LOVED the trip to the Burbank Film Festival. I think the reason I liked it so much is because I truly like Eileen, I think she sees it as what it is, and was probably laughing along with me at Kyle's and the Lisa's reactions to the whole thing. I loved them overrulling the chicken tenders and going with the hot dogs. I loved the whole thing. Man, I wish this show could be focused on these four. I think they'd have a lot of fun together.

Me too!!! When Eileen went to go down the escalator and hoped she wouldn't fall, I literally laughed out loud. She was in very high heels, it was a legitimate concern. And I'd take a hot dog over chicken tenders any day. With wine. Or course.

[mbaywife123]

Loved the Burbank Film Festival. Hot dogs, popcorn and sodas as well as a campy movie, what could be better! By the way I bought one of those old hot dog carousel cookers yeas ago off of ebay and it still cooks the BEST hot dogs and steamed buns on the top.Mustard, sweet relish and onions please.

[Persnickety1]

I wonder how many times Eileen and Lisa Rinna have had private conversations, along the lines of "Can you believe this shit???  I thought for sure it was all editing but some of these women are really crazy!!!!"

 

Of course, hopefully because of her friendship with Kyle, Lisa Rinna might have had a clue as to the utter batshittery that can fly unleashed on this show.

 

But poor Eileen must have been really blindsided by it.  

 

I can almost hear her telling Vince, "Oh, it can't be that bad, honey.  It's probably all in the way its edited.  I'm sure it's not nearly as bad as it looks."

 

And I laugh and laugh.

 

I can't wait to watch the whole episode when I'm done working.  Of course, after reading these posts, I'm now craving chicken tenders or hot dogs.

[lovesnark]

It hasn't aired here yet. But, Brandi tells LisaR that Kim's using a patch for pain? Holy shit, she's in a whole lot deeper than even I thought. Fentanyl is 80 to 100 times stronger than morphine and even at the lowest dose possible, someone has to have a very high tolerance to opiates to use it without overdosing. It's used for terminal people and people with long term, intractable pain that have exhausted all other opiates to make life tolerable. Heroin addicts have OD'd after getting a hold of a Fentanyl patch. Shit is as dangerous as it comes. 

 

 

[Cranky One]

Brandi should be concerned what people will be saying to her sons. But, I guess that means they will be talking about her, so it's okay.

If I lived in Yolanda's house, I'd never leave. Never, ever, ever!

The Burbank film festival. What fun and I enjoyed the 4 ladies together. That's what the show should be. Brandi is not in that league.

Eta,when do they see each episode of the show? I'm curious to see if Kim realizes Brandi outed her.

Edited February 11, 2015 by Cranky One

[copacabana]

Forget about Kim and Kyle --  I felt bad for the Burbank International Film Festival and for Eileen's writer and director!  (Also, no dissing of the much missed "One Life to Live", please, Mr. Red Carpet guy.)

 

Never seen two grown women so incapable of putting themselves in the other's shoes.  The Richards are permanently stuck in their grooves.  I've had more than enough of this story.  Total energy drain.  Kim looked like she was all of 15-years old when she was staring off into space like a sullen teeny bopper, and Kyle just can't stop with the screeching, the hair tossing, the cursing, the over the top schtick and self-pity.  What have we done to deserve this week after week?  Eileen is well meaning, I guess, but dealing with these two is obviously way above her pay grade.  And I enjoy Lisa R. but she seemed a bit over-eager this time around ... I agree with all she says but none of these women is really equipped to deal with Kim's issues -- or Kyle's either.  Wish they would just shift the focus onto something or someone else.  

 

Can't imagine who actually listens to Brandi's stupidities on her podcast.  

 

It was nice to see Lisa and Max shares a few moments that looked real for once.  Heavy English tea drinking this season. Maybe Kim should move in. 

 

Yolanda still with the banging body but from the neck-up not looking particularly healthy this season.  She looks exhausted and I'm beginning to wonder if the dry, brittle hair is an indication of continuing illness.  Hope she's feeling better right about now.    Brandi will never admit to anything so, again, why even bother? 

Edited February 11, 2015 by copacabana

[WireWrap]

It hasn't aired here yet. But, Brandi tells LisaR that Kim's using a patch for pain? Holy shit, she's in a whole lot deeper than even I thought. Fentanyl is 80 to 100 times stronger than morphine and even at the lowest dose possible, someone has to have a very high tolerance to opiates to use it without overdosing. It's used for terminal people and people with long term, intractable pain that have exhausted all other opiates to make life tolerable. Heroin addicts have OD'd after getting a hold of a Fentanyl patch. Shit is as dangerous as it comes. 

It is commonly used for terminal cancer patients, as you said, like Monty! I really doubt that any Dr. would give an addict Fentanyl Patches for "hernia" pain. I hope Monty is keeping close watch over his and counts them every few hours as I suspect that is where Kim is getting her pain "patch" from!

[sistermagpie]

First, it goes against her narrative of Kyle outing Kim, so does her no favors. Did she think that LIsa R. was an ally she desperately needed? Maybe this happened after the awkward yoga session with Yolanda, and she was feeling vulnerable.

 

 

I think she likes playing both sides of the person in charge. With Kim she can play the "I'm the only person who understands you and you need to get away from that toxic person" mode, and when she's with the "grown-ups" she takes the position of someone who's practically a drug counselor who's leading Kim through her addictions like a wise woman. So she'll talk with them about Kim being a tragic mess and they all know it. Because she still wants to be better than Kim. She pretends that she's not completely enabling Kim--in fact, she's the one taking care of her.

 

And she's also giving herself a way out after she dumps Kim--she'll never stop airing Kim's mess when that happens and saying how great she was until she couldn't handle dealing with an addict anymore.

 

Oh, and part of her "sober companion" role is also to constantly peg other people as alcoholics, like everybody is seen as the same objectively. People think Bella drinks the same way they do Brandi. Oh, and it's Kyle who really has the addiction problem in the Richards family.

 

Through it all, so frustrating that all of Kyle's true things she was saying would work better if instead of groveling about how she doesn't want to hurt Kim she could disengage, point it out clearly, and then let Kim figure it out. Really, they all need to just step away from her and stop talking about what they're supposed to do about her. Lisa's method of dealing with Brandi works so well you'd think somebody could learn by example. But Kyle, in particular, seems physically incapable of that kind of resolve. She can't ever walk away from someone saying she's a bad sister. Not when she's spent all her life suffering for the title. Kim totally knows how to play her there with her whole "but there's been times that you've hurt me..." tearfulness. Yes, I'm sure Kim's life is just dominated by the times Kyle hurt her, as if Kim gives enough of a damn about Kyle to be hurt by her at all.

 

Loved Eileen's movie.

[SwordQueen]

Watching it now! 

 

What's up with Yo's intro "Character isn't what you have, it's who you are" ?  Doesn't the saying "He/she has great character" or whatever, pretty much mean that that's some innate quality of a person that makes them who they are?  Maybe I don't understand that phrase after all.  lol 

 

 

grammar helps!

Edited February 11, 2015 by SwordQueen

[Umbelina]

The film festival itself was OK.  The drive over, with Kyle, Lispa, Lisa, and Eileen?  Not so much.  Find a topic besides Brandi ladies.  Topic Kim is worn out as well. 

[cooksdelight]

Kim's stealing poor Monty's pain patches. If anyone needs an intervention, Monty needs everyone's help so he's not suffering.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Note to self (and everyone here) -- I've actually learned something from this ep which could prove useful in my life.  If I have nothing else good to say to someone, just say "You look gorgeous."  Should make everyone happy, right?

 

Um, will Brandi still need to be ringing Yo's doorbell anymore?  Or will she get the Yoga guy to chase her away if she dares to show up at her door?

Edited February 11, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[WireWrap]

Brandi should be concerned what people will be saying to her sons. But, I guess that means they will be talking about her, so it's okay.

If I lived in Yolanda's house, I'd never leave. Never, ever, ever!

The Burbank film festival. What fun and I enjoyed the 4 ladies together. That's what the show should be. Brandi is not in that league.

Eta,when do they see each episode of the show? I'm curious to see if Kim realizes Brandi outed her.

They get the show about a week before it airs on TV.

[hoosiermom]

All I can say is I hope to God things aren't as they appear with Kim because if something isn't done soon she is going to die! Period.

[Umbelina]

It could be a lidocaine patch.  We don't know if it's an OTC topical patch, lidocaine, or Fentanyl. 

[mbaywife123]

I had a friend that was prescribed the pain patches for pain management years ago and I told him to not go there. He still thanks me to this day.

Edited February 11, 2015 by mbaywife123

[raiderred1]

I get that, but there was something more. I just watched the scene again, and Pandora first asks: "why now?" So timing is an issue. Then she asks: "Do you really want another family coming into the picture?" Huh? What is she talking about? Max's birth mother? A sibling? A new daughter-in-law? Then Lisa says: "I don't think they will, so don't even say that." Do what? Say what? I think they were talking about something else. Plus, they were acting kind of hush-hush and secretive with each other, and deliberately fussing with the flowers instead of the conversation.

I remember reading that Ken is the father of Max but not Lisa.  I can't remember where I read this. Did I dream this or did I read it?  Could Max be a love child of Ken's? I have never gotten a warm fuzzy feeling from Lisa about Max.  She almost seems to resent him.  When she questioned his motives and feelings the past episode I thought it was sad that she had to add in there that he is NOT related to her, Pandora or Ken. Nice way to make your adopted child feel so welcomed Lisa.

Edited February 11, 2015 by raiderred1

[SwordQueen]

Note to self (and everyone here) -- I've actually learned something from this ep which could prove useful in my life.  

 

So did I.  I need to take up yoga.  Yum. 

 

 

 

The pool and view at Yo's makes me want to be non-Hollywood friends with her.  I even like lemons!  Call me, Yo. 

[Umbelina]

I do agree with Brandi on one thing she said.  "Find another topic!"

 

These women spend almost all of their time together talking about Brandi, when they aren't talking about Kim.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Hey Rinna, ya already got 2 snotty little assholes there, so fail on that one.  Don't know if they're out having sex or doing drugs, but good luck keeping those 2 away that.

[erikdepressant]

I wonder how many times Eileen and Lisa Rinna have had private conversations, along the lines of "Can you believe this shit???  I thought for sure it was all editing but some of these women are really crazy!!!!"

I definitely got that vibe at the beginning of the episode, at the mixer rubble, when Kyle lashed out at LisaV.  Eileen and LisaR had a nonverbal conversation in that moment; it was the funniest part of the episode.

 

When Brandi suggested Kim might have suicidal tendencies, it made me wonder if part of Kim's hospital stay might have been for psychiatric evaluation/monitoring.

 

Gosh, I hope the intervention doesn't become the season finale wrap party.  Kim and Brandi running away, with Kyle sweeping after them in a billowing dress, Fatburger in hand...

[charming]

The other women talk about Kim and Brandi because Kim and Brandi make spectacles of themselves constantly. Kim and Brandi talk, scream, curse, insult and cause drama at every dinner, poker night, limo ride, and party they attend. So, uh, yeah they're going to "talk" about them and how batshit they are. It's natural. Brandi defenders should be happy because Brandi says she likes it when people talk about her.

 

I have to applaud Bravo for highlighting the utter hypocrisy and flat out lying Brandi & Kim are engaged in. I wonder how they rationalize what they're seeing. Brandi has been steadfast that Kyle hates Kim, Kyle is jealous of Kim, Kyle is a horrible sister. Then here's footage of Kim telling Kyle that she's been a good sister and has been there for her. If Kim isn't in a drug induced haze how can she not feel betrayed after watching the Brandi and Lisa R convo? Kim swore that Brandi would never talk about her or betray her confidence. What enabling idiots. They deserve each other.

 

Brandi defenders can try to spin that convo with Yolanda anyway they like but watch the body language between them. You can feel Brandi start to seethe. The sighs, head jerking, not making eye contact, then bam, Bella goes under the bus. As much as I can't stand Yolanda I could empathize with her in that scene. Brandi cut her to the core with that one and Yo called her right out on it in the moment.

 

I thought Pandora was very sweet when she learned that Max was interested in his ancestry. I took her comments as fear that if Max sought out his birth family then they would be replaced in his life. I think that's a pretty common initial reaction.

[LotusFlower]

What I can't figure out is her angle with Lisa R. when she completely outed Kim. First, it goes against her narrative of Kyle outing Kim, so does her no favors. Did she think that LIsa R. was an ally she desperately needed?

Total deflection. Manipulaion and deflection is Brandi's game. Watch the scene again and you'll notice Lisa's agenda was to have a sort of heart-to-heart with Brandi about why she's so "mean" and attacks and hurts people and causes so much friction. Brandi spotted it immediately and started talking really fast and fidgeting with her hair - what she always does when she's nervous or feeling vulnerable, and shifted the conversation onto Kim. Voila! They were no longer talking about Brandi's bitchy behavior, but about Kim. I don't think she wanted to out Kim's fall off the wagon, but hey, it sure beats talking about her own drinking, or drugging, or mean-girl personality - whatever it is that makes her so "mean," which was Lisa's motive to begin with.

[mbaywife123]

Felt as if Pandy was concerned about Max's birth family might try to claim him as theirs when she considers him her true brother.

[charming]

Kyle might be a drama queen at times but she seems to enjoy her life. Mauricio's company has flourished in the past few years. Kyle and Mauricio appear happy together. Kyle seems to have a strong network of friends and well, isn't on drugs or drunk 24/7.  

 

Brandi and Kim have often complained about being alone or being broke. I think women like Kim and Brandi have been told their whole lives how pretty and special they are. They think they deserve the mansions, nice cars, rich husband, and fairytale. Their lives haven't turned out the way they thought it would. They were thin, blonde and pretty. What happened??? Kyle doesn't get to be happy when they're miserable.

[haydensterling]

I don't care about Brandi's podcast.  I especially don't care about her refusal to apologize for being an asshole.  You are always wrong, Brandi, you have masses of apologizing to do.  Please start with me, because I don't like you, thanks.

I love that Lisa R. and Eileen are both just straight up 'Surrounded!  Surrounded by junkies everywhere!'

 

I did not like Kyle making it all about her when Lisa was trying to comfort her at the gay mixer.  Pinky was trying to explain to you what Brandi is capable of because you are too dimwitted to figure it out yourself, Kyle.  Just because Pinky V. used herself as an example of same didn't mean she was discounting or dismissing your experiences.

 

I thought the Burbank Film Festival was hilarious and I've also seen a lot of movies at that theatre.  Lisa R.?  The phrase you were looking for is Z-grade, honey.  It's okay.  That movie was super Z-grade. I know.  I worked on a few.

 

Every child has the right to know their genetic background, if only for health reasons.  Pandy was overreacting, IMO.

 

Why did Yo not tell Brandi to fuck off w/r/t the implication that 'everyone' talks about Bella being an alcoholic, straight up?  I love Brandi telling us in her TH she doesn't want to be talked about and to 'get a new subject'.  Um, bitch, please.  Being talked about is what gives you life.  I'm not calling Brandi by her name anymore because I just can't.  From here on out, even though it takes longer to type, she is Dirty Tampon String.

 

Pinky, please, we all know you were a partier.

Eileen, you go girl, make some shit your business, just know that this luncheon is going to turn into yet another Richards sisters power hour.  Eileen looks younger than Kyle to me--damn, girl.  How is it that I just noticed this?  

 

Kim, all of your intentions are totally fucking mixed up, so please shut your mouth about other people's intentions.  Kyle, the reason that your sister thinks you're trying to hurt her is because she is a professional victim.  Haha--Eileen is over the Richards show.  I am over the Richards show, too, Eileen, can I come and sit at your table?  Can you teach me how to look good?

Kyle, don't ask US how many more times the two of you can do this dance--I think you know the answer, so fucking move on, yes?

 

Lisa R. is the real truth cannon, bitches.  It is fucking bullshit to walk on eggshells, Lisa R.  You are right.  Can I come and sit at your table too?

 

This episode was boring.  I got nothing.

 

[Lizzing]

Yikes, I've got a pile of thoughts, not exactly organized.

 

First, Kim was diagnosed with a hiatal hernia.  That's when there's a tear in the diaphragm where the stomach pooches up in it.  When active, it can make you puke after eating something greasy, spicy, too much, or just not to your digestive system's liking.  The common prescription is something like Nexium or some other acid reflux reducing drug and advice to eat small portions.  There are some surgeries for it, with differing results.  My mother has had one for, god, now about 20 years.  No one has ever given her a 'script for anything more powerful than that.  So no GOOD doc is prescribing Kim with some kind of pain killer patch for a hiatal hernia.  And, to my knowledge, you can't get high off Nexium.

 

As for "outing" Kim's addiction, I think there are different levels of discussion.  Kim has admitted she has addiction issues and had a sit down with Andy at the (2nd/3rd?) reunion about it.  No one can "out" her as being an addict now, as she has openly admitted she is one.  Outing her as back on the stuff (pills/booze/whathaveyou) currently is a different story.

 

Kim's story for me is 50% sad and 50% stupid.  She's a recovering addict (who may likely have relapsed), with a cancer ridden beloved ex, and with few friends, perhaps Brandi is actually one (in Kim's eyes).  Yet she willfully covers her ears (figuratively) when anything involving Kyle comes around.  And I really don't like Kyle, but shit, Kim didn't hear that line about Mauricio Brandi laid down?  If her ribs are cracked and her discs are compressed, that was a super trick putting her head up her ass that far.

 

My last irrelevant thought is on Lisa V's son.  Max should be allowed to learn his genetic make up.  Ancestry.com has been selling the kits for ages and Lisa can even get the swabs done on her dogs.  I seriously doubt Max wants to run away from the Todd family, he probably wants to know his lineage just as much as she's got on Giggy.

[izabella]

Was Brandi also putting herself in the martyr role when talking with Lisa R?  I thought I heard her talk about how hard it was, but she had to do it, meaning dealing with Kim.  It didn't take her long to get there.

[Hava]

I still get a weird feeling when I watch Lisa and Pandora interact with Max. I'm sure they care about him, but it feels as though they always call attention to the fact that he's adopted. It's odd. I wonder if they adopted him when he was a bit older.