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I usually start with “Could I please get a ...” or “I’d like a ...” — I might say “I need some beans to make this chili,” but I can’t think I’ve ever said it in relation to ordering food. So, yeah, now that you mention it, it does sound odd.  I’ll have to pay more attention next time someone from my area shows up. 

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On 2/6/2018 at 6:47 AM, CoachWristletJen said:

Sadly, I think this may be what is most likely in this person's case. She's just a contrary, harsh person.

It's a long shot, but if you happen to get on speaking terms with her or someone who knows her, you might suggest that she have her thyroid and pituitary gland tested. Hyperthyroid doesn't always lead to weight loss. Sometimes it makes you just hungry enough to eat more than you burn. The higher levels of thyroid hormone lead to more adrenaline in your system, and your brain starts to react like you're in fight or flight 24/7. So you get mad all the time and start doing a lot of weird, impulsive stuff. Statistically, it's much more likely that she's just a jerk, but what you've said about her behavior reminds me of how erratic I was with hyperthyroid not knowing I had it.

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On 2/7/2018 at 8:45 AM, Gigglepuff said:

I don't know if this has been pointed out here or not so far, but I've noticed that many of  the patients go through the drive thru and begin their order with, "I need ......".  Who says that? Don't most people start their order with, "I'll have" or "I'll take"? Like, no, you don't "need" three burgers, an extra large order of cheese fries, jalapeno poppers, an extra larger diet coke, etc... Does it seem odd to any of you, or is it just me? I've wondered if that phrasing is a regional thing, but it seem like many of the show's participants say it when ordering food. 

After thinking about it, and asking my husband and some friends, we say it that way. I never thought about it actually. 

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On 2/7/2018 at 10:45 AM, Gigglepuff said:

I don't know if this has been pointed out here or not so far, but I've noticed that many of  the patients go through the drive thru and begin their order with, "I need ......".  Who says that? Don't most people start their order with, "I'll have" or "I'll take"? Like, no, you don't "need" three burgers, an extra large order of cheese fries, jalapeno poppers, an extra larger diet coke, etc... Does it seem odd to any of you, or is it just me? I've wondered if that phrasing is a regional thing, but it seem like many of the show's participants say it when ordering food. 

It may be regional. I've never heard it in person. Only on tv. I need.....not in my region (south)

Insulin usage. I'm no professional, but,  if blood sugars are too high or too low, it could make a person feel odd.  Low blood sugar usually makes you hungry, hot, faint, nervous, snippy, due to the jittery feeling inside. The lady should get a blood meter and check her levels. Too high....you can get ketoacidosis.  Not good, potentially, fatal. Feel stupor, nauseous, pain, can't breath, organs shut down.  I hope the lady is under medical care.  Long term effects are not good. 

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19 hours ago, jennblevins said:

I usually start with “Could I please get a ...” or “I’d like a ...” — I might say “I need some beans to make this chili,” but I can’t think I’ve ever said it in relation to ordering food.

I can see saying it if you're ordering from a list of things from several people.  It didn't sound strange to me.

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1 hour ago, auntjess said:

Come on folks, don't make me rewatch more shows.
I thought there was a non-walking woman, and in an appointment at the office, that she wanted more meds.

The woman who lived in her parent's basement and barely walked asked for more drugs.  Dr. Now implied that she had an addiction issue, but they did not call it out in the same way he has for some of the more recent people.  She ended up being a success story.  She also ended up getting a knee replacement.  So she was in pain, but she also may have had an additional issue with the meds. 

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7 minutes ago, Maricopa said:

I realize this is going to sound terribly naive, but since all these people complain about how difficult it is to be this fat, does it ever occur to them to eat less?

As I understand it from the participants, they cannot possibly lose weight without Dr. Now.
One of the recent ones, who'd lost a fair amount of weight, was possibly not getting surgery, and commented that it was a waste, if she didn't have it.
And then there's "I don't have time to diet," as if it's harder to not eat, than to eat.

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5 hours ago, Maricopa said:

I realize this is going to sound terribly naive, but since all these people complain about how difficult it is to be this fat, does it ever occur to them to eat less?

Ok, but what if they eat less than before, but they're still eating more calories then they're expending?  In that case, they're eating less, but they'll still gain weight.  What they need to do is eat less calories then they expend, not just eat less than before.  But... a lot of people just aren't good at calculating the amount of calories they eat or expend.  That's partly an education problem.  But it does involve math and unit conversions, and a lot of people just don't handle that type of thing well.

But, let's say we take a group of random people and figure out how many calories they can eat to lose weight and give them appropriate diets and basically hold their hand through it all.  A lot of those people are still going to fall off the diet anyway.  Why?  We don't know, because our understanding of how the brain works is still in it's infancy.  I mean we sort of understand about different chemical pathways that trigger feelings of hunger and fullness, but we are a long way from being able to point at an individual and figure that stuff out in enough detail to understand why they aren't staying on their diet.  So, we're basically stuck with "if we do this thing, then we'll see good results in some percentage of people, whereas if we do that thing, we see good results in a larger percentage of people."

And, with morbidly obese people, the studies show that a larger percentage of them will lose weight and keep it off with the surgery than without.  And we have some theories as to why that is (the main one is that the surgery changes the chemical signalling system for hunger). 

It's like smoking.  I mean, we all know the basic cure for smoking addiction -- don't smoke.  If you stop smoking, eventually you won't be addicted anymore.  And people who want to stop smoking know this.  But, for a lot of people that's extremely difficult to do.  And for some people it isn't.  And while we have a basic understanding of how nicotine addiction works, we're still a long way from understanding why it's easy for some people to quit and difficult for others.  And we're a long way from pointing at an individual and being able to 100% cure their smoking addiction.  

I watched a documentary the other day that followed the eating habits of two skinny people.  And what it found was that these two people automatically compensate when they overeat by under-eating for the next few meals.  They didn't consciously decide to eat less, but when they splurged, they ended up compensating for the excess calories without thinking about it.  Whoever figures out why those two automatically compensate like that, while the people on this show don't, will win a Nobel prize.

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9 hours ago, MrHufflepuff said:

Ok, but what if they eat less than before, but they're still eating more calories then they're expending?  In that case, they're eating less, but they'll still gain weight.  What they need to do is eat less calories then they expend, not just eat less than before.  But... a lot of people just aren't good at calculating the amount of calories they eat or expend.  That's partly an education problem.  But it does involve math and unit conversions, and a lot of people just don't handle that type of thing well.

And a lot of (these same) people just aren't good at facing the truth.  If you are morbidly obese, it's because you have eaten significantly more than your body needs.  Period.

Hubby and I are dieting right now.  The only "math" we're using is to cut our former portions in half.  Where we each used to eat a salmon fillet on our own, we now split the fillet.  If a package of frozen vegetables (or anything else) says, "4 servings," that's how many servings we get out of it.  We don't eat the whole package in one sitting.  It's now two servings each.  Our food budget has dropped significantly, because we are literally eating half as much.  

These people who GAIN weight after Dr. Now has provided them with a 1,200 calorie diet have not gotten serious about the weight loss.  I don't know if it's a mental condition (similar to addiction), but I do believe that a lot of it is denial as to how much/what they're actually eating, combined with the fact that losing weight is not the priority they profess it to be.  Some of these folks don't want to be mobile enough to be wiping anyone's butt - even their own.

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1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

 

These people who GAIN weight after Dr. Now has provided them with a 1,200 calorie diet have not gotten serious about the weight loss.  I don't know if it's a mental condition (similar to addiction), but I do believe that a lot of it is denial as to how much/what they're actually eating, combined with the fact that losing weight is not the priority they profess it to be.  Some of these folks don't want to be mobile enough to be wiping anyone's butt - even their own.

Ding ding ding!  It's definitely a mental condition.  I was reading an interview with one of the show's successes (Brittani, I think), and they asked her what they key was.  She said "going to therapy."  She is several years out and still goes to a group once a week for support and accountability.  

And of course, like you said, some of them don't really want to change.  Look at Lisa from a couple of weeks ago.

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3 hours ago, AZChristian said:

AIf you are morbidly obese, it's because you have eaten significantly more than your body needs.  Period.

I'm not sure how you mean this, but I'll just point out that nothing I said implies otherwise.  

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2 hours ago, 88Keys said:

Ding ding ding!  It's definitely a mental condition.  I was reading an interview with one of the show's successes (Brittani, I think), and they asked her what they key was.  She said "going to therapy."  She is several years out and still goes to a group once a week for support and accountability.  

And of course, like you said, some of them don't really want to change.  Look at Lisa from a couple of weeks ago.

The thing about mental conditions, though, is that we know the brain rewires itself constantly in response to stimuli (whether that's chemicals or experiences or anything else).  But how exactly it rewires itself and how to change that wiring is something we still don't understand very well.  Therapy does seems to be useful tool, though, so you're right, that it's a good thing for everyone on the show to do.

 

3 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Hubby and I are dieting right now.  The only "math" we're using is to cut our former portions in half.  Where we each used to eat a salmon fillet on our own, we now split the fillet.  If a package of frozen vegetables (or anything else) says, "4 servings," that's how many servings we get out of it.  We don't eat the whole package in one sitting.  It's now two servings each.  Our food budget has dropped significantly, because we are literally eating half as much.  

These people who GAIN weight after Dr. Now has provided them with a 1,200 calorie diet have not gotten serious about the weight loss.  I don't know if it's a mental condition (similar to addiction), but I do believe that a lot of it is denial as to how much/what they're actually eating, combined with the fact that losing weight is not the priority they profess it to be.  Some of these folks don't want to be mobile enough to be wiping anyone's butt - even their own.

With the types of foods that Dr. Now probably prescribes, I'll agree that it's going to be pretty difficult for a morbidly obese person to gain weight, even if they don't count calories.  It's pretty difficult to eat massive amounts of steamed broccoli.

But, if you want to make sure you're hitting a specific calories goal (like 1200/day), then that's probably going to require some mathematical calculations.  I eat mostly the similar stuff every day, so I only had to do some of the calculations once, but I still had to do them to make sure I was under my specific calorie goal.

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I use a free app on my phone to record what I eat, between that and a food scale it’s very easy to know when I am going off the rails (which I’ve done too much of recently).   I can eat an entire 4-serving package of broccoli as part of my one meal a day but don’t worry about it because both the carbs and the calories are low so it’s not an issue.  

I wonder about the brain - gut connection and while there has been a lot of research no one really understands exactly how it works yet.  I think for some people (like me) the hunger is not actually a physical need for sustenance which is why therapy is so important.  It’s easy to use food for so many other reasons, what I want is a tablet I can take each day and then, like a former drinker or smoker, I could just say “I don’t eat”.

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On 3/19/2018 at 6:17 PM, auntjess said:

As I understand it from the participants, they cannot possibly lose weight without Dr. Now.
One of the recent ones, who'd lost a fair amount of weight, was possibly not getting surgery, and commented that it was a waste, if she didn't have it.
And then there's "I don't have time to diet," as if it's harder to not eat, than to eat.

That last one is always especially amusing considering that only about 5% of them (if that) actually have jobs.

On 3/2/2018 at 10:27 PM, PrincessPurrsALot said:

The woman who lived in her parent's basement and barely walked asked for more drugs.  Dr. Now implied that she had an addiction issue, but they did not call it out in the same way he has for some of the more recent people.  She ended up being a success story.  She also ended up getting a knee replacement.  So she was in pain, but she also may have had an additional issue with the meds. 

My guess would be that most of them would be prone to have drug addiction issues because they've already demonstrated very addictive personalities. I think most of them could easily switch one addiction for another.

Also, almost all of them do have problems with chronic pain for obvious reasons. 

Here's what puzzles me. I know that a lot of times narcotics are administered by weight. How many pills does it take to help a 600 pound person with pain?

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Would anyone like to discuss the top 5 WORST patients of all time? Here’s my ranking  

1. Lisa aka Herbert and the maggot monster 

2 FRAHD RICE James 

3  Penny and her “vagina she can finally reach”

4 The Assanti brothers 

5 Pauline’s feet 
 

I brought this over from Sarah's live chat, because that will be closed to comments in a few hours.
I don't remember Pauline's feet.
The Assantis, especially Steven, a classs to himself.
James is pretty awful, but I'll have to think about it.

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I have to admit I am fascinated by the different ways 600+ pounds of excess flesh can be distributed on the human body. I know everybody "carries their weight" differently, still I can't help but marvel at how some people on this program are enormous but proportionately "big all over," and others have huge fat deposits, lymphedemas, etc. that makes one part of their body much larger than the rest and how despite their weight, some are mobile while others are confined to bed. To me the most amazing manifestation of weight distribution is in the form of the "butterfly wings" that some have on their backsides. 

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5 hours ago, magemaud said:

I have to admit I am fascinated by the different ways 600+ pounds of excess flesh can be distributed on the human body. I know everybody "carries their weight" differently, still I can't help but marvel at how some people on this program are enormous but proportionately "big all over," and others have huge fat deposits, lymphedemas, etc. that makes one part of their body much larger than the rest and how despite their weight, some are mobile while others are confined to bed. To me the most amazing manifestation of weight distribution is in the form of the "butterfly wings" that some have on their backsides. 

I think if I were a 600lbs I would have butterfly wings. I’m 5’7 with a BMI of 33 and I look like a fertility statue (plus size on bottom with very wide hips and straight size on top, although I have a 38F bra). I need to get down to a BMI of 29 or so to get out of plus size pants- and I’m not short!

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Hello everyone! M

I remember watching an episode of M6LB Life and it was a woman who was in hospital and her partner kept bringing in food. 

After the surgery she wouldn’t help herself. She got really riled up when Dr nowzaradan pulled her up on the weight issue and how she had gaine weight, and she started yelling about how she could see her vagina or something like that. It was ridiculous and she kept saying she could feel the weight loss and see it. The scales were wrong and blah de blah. 

 

What episode and who was it? It’s been bugging me haha. I cannot rest until I know who it was. I set up an account purely to find this out  

 

please help! TIA  

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3 hours ago, LordOfLotion said:

It was Penny who was talking about how she could wash her vagina, but she never really lost any weight. It was season 2, but I don't remember what # episode.

Ah! So it was! Thank you so much you have no idea how infuriating it was haha. I just remember Dr Now looking at her like “you’re delusional”. She was so dramatic and did absolutely nothing to help herself. She honestly made me so angry ?

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I just had a disturbing thought...

Every week they show these people eating tons of food.  And every week they show these people half-naked and entirely naked.  And every week, I look forward to watching this show.

Does this mean I'm into feeder porn?

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1 hour ago, MrHufflepuff said:

I just had a disturbing thought...

Every week they show these people eating tons of food.  And every week they show these people half-naked and entirely naked.  And every week, I look forward to watching this show.

Does this mean I'm into feeder porn?

I think your reaction  to watching  this is a bit different  than someone  who watches  feeder porn.

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1 hour ago, MrHufflepuff said:

just had a disturbing thought...

Every week they show these people eating tons of food.  And every week they show these people half-naked and entirely naked.  And every week, I look forward to watching this show.

Does this mean I'm into feeder porn?

LOL ? ??

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After avoiding re-watching Penny, because I was so disgusted, I realized I don't remember her trip to Houston, so I've got her lined up on my DVR.
Pauline was still awful, and I wonder if her son ever broke free.
Was there ever a Pauline follow-up?

Paula was the one "P" woman who did OK, wasn't she?
 I rewatched Erica again, and loved when the nutritionist came to clean out her house, after she'd discovered you could order grocery delivery.
 

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I rewatched the last half of Pauline last night. She was every bit as uncooperative as Schenee, but she was so much quieter about it that I found her much less annoying than I had before. At least at the start. The tears and excuses were grating, but not as grating as Schenee's constant rage. The bar really has been reset.

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1 hour ago, auntjess said:

They should do shows from pulling out segments, like road trips, flights, excuses, etc.

And every one of them saying, "I'm not sure what the scale will say.  I may have cheated a little bit."

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I love that idea - of clips from the shows merged together!  Imagine 20 times in a row, Dr Now asking, "How is your eating habit?" and the patients turn on their innocent eyes and say, "Oh not that much, really..."

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On 1/10/2018 at 5:11 PM, AZChristian said:

Can't you just see him being carried on a gurney through the pearly gates, screaming, "Owwwww.  Mah leeeeeeggggggg!!!!"

(I guess I'll keep you company as you see yourself out.)

"Pearly gates"?  James is headed toward the fiery gates of hell (significantly widened, of course).  His good friends Penny, Assanti, Marla and Schenee will be there with him soon enough.

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9 hours ago, Trees said:

I love that idea - of clips from the shows merged together!  Imagine 20 times in a row, Dr Now asking, "How is your eating habit?" and the patients turn on their innocent eyes and say, "Oh not that much, really..."

And "I cheated a little," as the scale shows +40 instead of -30.
They always say they're happy with it, and seem to think they can bluff through Dr. Now.


 

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Penny's  episode on now.  Yikes what a nasty lying lazy manipulative delusional  creature she is.  And a big baby who should have never been given the surgery to begin with.   "I can't function without wontons".      She's always been our poster child for worst patient ever.   How many years since she's walked now?   How is she still alive???  I don't do Facebook.  

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10 minutes ago, Snarkastikate said:

Penny's  episode on now.  Yikes what a nasty lying lazy manipulative delusional  creature she is.  And a big baby who should have never been given the surgery to begin with.   "I can't function without wontons".      She's always been our poster child for worst patient ever.   How many years since she's walked now?   How is she still alive???  I don't do Facebook.  

Haha!!! I was just going to post that Penny the slob Is on.  Yes, apparently she’s still alive, surprise surprise! She definitely hasn’t lost any weight!  Remember in her episode when her fat ass was being carted to the hospital in the ambulance? The EMT asks how much weight have you lost and she says “I’ve lost about 340lbs.” The EMT’s eyes bugged out of his head!! She gets weighed in the hospital and she gained 5lbs from her STARTING weight! What an ugly, disgusting, delusional, smelly, fat POS! 

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37 minutes ago, Snarkastikate said:

Penny's  episode on now.  Yikes what a nasty lying lazy manipulative delusional  creature she is.  And a big baby who should have never been given the surgery to begin with.   "I can't function without wontons".      She's always been our poster child for worst patient ever.   How many years since she's walked now?   How is she still alive???  I don't do Facebook.  

Penny, or someone whom we think was Penny, was posting under a pseudonym on the Facebook groups for awhile. She would always take Penny's side of things, and she had a cryptic, troll profile, and she would wax mystical and religious saying things like, "You never know when it's your time to go. Only God decides. Penny could live a long time." Stuff like that. People started addressing her as Penny, and then she seemed to get spooked, and she went away. Sorry I don't remember the pseudonym.

25 minutes ago, Kaia40 said:

Haha!!! I was just going to post that Penny the slob Is on.  Yes, apparently she’s still alive, surprise surprise! She definitely hasn’t lost any weight!  Remember in her episode when her fat ass was being carted to the hospital in the ambulance? The EMT asks how much weight have you lost and she says “I’ve lost about 340lbs.” The EMT’s eyes bugged out of his head!! She gets weighed in the hospital and she gained 5lbs from her STARTING weight! What an ugly, disgusting, delusional, smelly, fat POS! 

I always felt so sorry for Liam. He's old enough to be truly embarrassed by all of this stuff now. Penny used to brag about how one day she was going to get her act together [and get herself wheeled on into his school or whatever], but he may not even want her to show up at this point. Poor kid. I hope Edgar hasn't recruited him into helping with the caregiving. 

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One thing about this show. I always think I had the most fucked up, awful, chock full of abuse of all kinds childhood and teen years ever. Then I watch these stories and realize I'm not alone. There are others who have lived through horrors similar to mine.  I feel for them with all my heart. However, their perpetual victimhood pisses me off. You can do better. You can overcome your shit upbringing. Eating yourself into oblivion doesn't help.  You spent your life having your body abused by others, and you continue to do it to yourself afterwards.  Yes, you've got to hit bottom. You've got to want to have a better life. I don't think some of these people will ever hit bottom. They're too busy wallowing in self pity. Pisses me off. One thing that I'm the most proud of was when I reconnected with my mother. I stood there and was told her that all that shit that happened didn't break me. I survived and thrived and learned to love others and how to accept love. Some of these people will never get there. 

I had to get that off my chest. 

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26 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Penny, or someone whom we think was Penny, was posting under a pseudonym on the Facebook groups for awhile. She would always take Penny's side of things, and she had a cryptic, troll profile, and she would wax mystical and religious saying things like, "You never know when it's your time to go. Only God decides. Penny could live a long time." Stuff like that. People started addressing her as Penny, and then she seemed to get spooked, and she went away. Sorry I don't remember the pseudonym.

I always felt so sorry for Liam. He's old enough to be truly embarrassed by all of this stuff now. Penny used to brag about how one day she was going to get her act together [and get herself wheeled on into his school or whatever], but he may not even want her to show up at this point. Poor kid. I hope Edgar hasn't recruited him into helping with the caregiving. 

Oh really, that’s too funny! We all know that no one would stick up for Penny but Penny! 

I felt bad for Liam too. He seems to be such a sweet little kid too! 

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Every time one of them says "I made good progress" or "I am making good progress", I assume they are lying, because that was Penny's line.  *She* knows that she is "making good progress" even if she has lost no weight, can't get out of bed, can't get off the oxygen and can't walk.

All those horrible patients... I wonder why so many of us hate Penny more than any other?

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1 minute ago, Kaia40 said:

Oh really, that’s too funny! We all know that no one would stick up for Penny but Penny! 

I felt bad for Liam too. He seems to be such a sweet little kid too! 

It's been a few years.  By now, Liam is probably quite an angry teenager, embarrassed to hell by his disgrace of a mom and wimp of a dad.  I hope he doesn't get self-destructive to block his pain.

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1 hour ago, Trees said:

Every time one of them says "I made good progress" or "I am making good progress", I assume they are lying, because that was Penny's line.  *She* knows that she is "making good progress" even if she has lost no weight, can't get out of bed, can't get off the oxygen and can't walk.

All those horrible patients... I wonder why so many of us hate Penny more than any other?

But she can clean her vagina now . . . or so she claims. 

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I recorded this, but haven't rewatched it.  
Wasn't she the first proponent of "doing it at my own pace?"

5 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

But she can clean her vagina now . . . or so she claims.

Yes, it's not that we don't have standards here, they're just not very high.
I'm mainly rewatching because I can't remember her trip to Houston, and the trips are often my favorite parts.

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12 hours ago, Trees said:

I love that idea - of clips from the shows merged together!  Imagine 20 times in a row, Dr Now asking, "How is your eating habit?" and the patients turn on their innocent eyes and say, "Oh not that much, really..."

And that is Dr. Nowzaradan  life.  I am supprise he has not go round the bend after hearing that so many times. When I started  typing  Now, his full  name came up  as a suggestion .

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2 hours ago, Trees said:

Every time one of them says "I made good progress" or "I am making good progress", I assume they are lying, because that was Penny's line.  *She* knows that she is "making good progress" even if she has lost no weight, can't get out of bed, can't get off the oxygen and can't walk.

All those horrible patients... I wonder why so many of us hate Penny more than any other?

I'm not sure,  but she was just such a liar, taking cash from family and friends to get to Houston, then insisting that she was losing massive amounts of weight when she was in fact gaining weight, post surgery,  seeing  Edgar  was such an off the charts enabler, and I think we were appalled at the incredible waste of resources and personnel it took hauling her lazy carcass to each and every medical appointment.  That scene of the fire trucks and emergency vehicles actually blocking off the street to help just to get her loaded into her minivan for the trip to Houston is memorable.   She will always be the most remembered and talked about patient I think.  She was the perfect storm of all the most obnoxious  behaviors of the truly food addicted.     A real classic, an original!!!  LOL 

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OK, I watched.
The trip was a disappointment.  No angst-filled motel stop.
Wasn't there another one, who also insisted on oxygen?
She was indeed a waste of resources.
"I'm not sure that scale was right, I think my original weight was more."
Oh, and toward the end, she said she didn't know she'd be expected to lose weight after the surgery.  WTF?

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6 hours ago, auntjess said:

OK, I watched.
The trip was a disappointment.  No angst-filled motel stop.
Wasn't there another one, who also insisted on oxygen?
She was indeed a waste of resources.
"I'm not sure that scale was right, I think my original weight was more."
Oh, and toward the end, she said she didn't know she'd be expected to lose weight after the surgery.  WTF?

Yep! I posted before about when she told the EMT that she lost 340lbs and he looked at her like WTF! She’s such a major liar!  I think another reason she is so hated is because she’s an entitled, lazy, lying, grifter, scammer, POS.  She was getting disability for being a fat ass and she was getting extra money so her husband could be her caretaker! She was the one with the oxygen. Dr. Now told her she didn’t need it and her oxygen saturation was even better than his!  She insisted that she still needed it for disability! She claimed she was a better Mom than working Mom’s because her fat ass was there laying in her own excrement when Liam got home from school!

One thing comes to my mind with this creepy woman...Munchausen Syndrome! 

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On 06/04/2018 at 11:04 AM, MrHufflepuff said:

I just had a disturbing thought...

Every week they show these people eating tons of food.  And every week they show these people half-naked and entirely naked.  And every week, I look forward to watching this show.

Does this mean I'm into feeder porn?

Depends on how many tissues you are going through....

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12 hours ago, auntjess said:

OK, I watched.
The trip was a disappointment.  No angst-filled motel stop.
Wasn't there another one, who also insisted on oxygen?
She was indeed a waste of resources.
"I'm not sure that scale was right, I think my original weight was more."
Oh, and toward the end, she said she didn't know she'd be expected to lose weight after the surgery.  WTF?

Referring to Penny? If so, IMO the difference is that is an old episode.  As the show progresses, they get more and more formulaic, showing the same scenes and repeating the same tired lines with every new patient.

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