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S04.E01: Joint Session

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Dev F

Dev F

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The full trailer for season 4 is out today:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9qBDFmbkZg

 

The thing that stood out to me is that when Selina is giving the joint address to Congress at around 0:13, her old pal Senator Doyle is sitting in a presiding position above her. Doesn't that suggest that he's the new president of the Senate -- that is, the new veep?

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ElectricBoogaloo

ElectricBoogaloo

FYI - the episode title has been released! It's "Joint Session."

 

Episode description:

Selina makes her first major speech as president to Congress, but her staff struggles to make sense of her message. Meanwhile, Gary worries about his limited access to Selina; Jonah is wary of the new vice president's chief of staff; and Amy has a meeting with ruthless political operative Bill Ericsson.
Jeezaloo

Jeezaloo

What's more Selina then letting herself get mired in a back-and-forth with a five year old child over whether she's the president? LOL She can't even pull off a softball photo op without the claws coming out.

 

This show is all about watching Selina go off the rails and then try to rein it back in.

 

Didn't last season end with her being the president, but having to run for president at the same time? Was that resolved, or is she still running for the office she already holds? ;-)

bmoore4026

bmoore4026

Oh, dear, dear, Selina: You should have known better than keep the incompetent fools you surrounded yourself with when you were Vice President.  You didn't just shoot yourself in both feet - you cut them off.

 

Of course, VP Andrew (not ex-husband Andrew) and Sen. Furlong will try to be thorns in Selina's side.  Too bad they selected Jonah to be their underling.

 

Richard the Poor Gary Substitute is still around.  Why? I don't know.

Traveller519

Traveller519

"That was a cock-cock!"

 

I'm pretty sure the submarine would have been a viable work around. Cut its budget by 10% and reassign the direction of that contract, but naturally this staff completely implodes on herself.

 

I do enjoy how when the show throws Selina into the fray she show's herself to be a good politician, her weakness has been convincing herself that she needs this group of half-wits to do her thinking for her. Which leads me to my other favorite line of the night. "My whole career is flashing before my eyes. It's fantastic!"

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TV Anonymous

TV Anonymous

Does anyone know if Veep borrowed the Oval Office set from House Of Cards? Both productions film close to each other (I believe), so it would make sense.

 

I am still pacing myself through S3 of House of Cards, so I can not help comparing Selina Meyer and Frank Underwood and their surroundings. Imagine what would happen if they replaced each other.

ganesh

ganesh

I'm pretty sure the submarine would have been a viable work around. Cut its budget by 10% and reassign the direction of that contract, but naturally this staff completely implodes on herself.

I do enjoy how when the show throws Selina into the fray she show's herself to be a good politician, her weakness has been convincing herself that she needs this group of half-wits to do her thinking for her.

 

I think it would have been a workaround too. I mean, that's how politics works. Maybe you shift some other projects around. 

 

Selina did well with future whatever, but not for nothing though, Selina knew there was already a problem with the speech and was able to talk on the fly. She was the one who read out the $60 billion and she knew it wasn't right. Yeah, the staff screwed up, but come on. 

 

What did they call Gary Cole? Gray Elvis?

 

This was pretty fast paced and I like how it's nonstop activity. Sue seems to be the only one who hasn't missed a beat and is still competent. 

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iMonrey

iMonrey

 

What did they call Gary Cole? Gray Elvis?

 

Yes, and Dan calling that other guy "Dobby the House Elf" totally cracked me up. That and "Cheese Dick, Wisconsin." Great episode. Two of the hikers died. Wait, what hikers??

 

Yeah, you'd think by now Selina would fire that whole staff. Just goes to show how insecure she is without her posse no matter how badly they screw up. 

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hoodooznoodooz

hoodooznoodooz

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I loved Amy referencing a "chicken and egg" scenario and Richard trying to amuse her with something about the chicken refusing to ovulate.

And, of course, Gary's dismay upon realizing that, "This bag was not returned to me in the condition I expected. There were a lot of loose lids!"

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Monx

Monx

No, I totally felt for Jonah. That guy was terrifying- the way his smile instanlty dropped as he walked away *shudder*.

I was actually kind of surprised they went for such a dark vibe, compared to the tit grab, that was hands down assult.

Not that the tit grab wasn't assult! It was just played more lightheartedly, gah am I making sense?

Also poor Gary.

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TV Anonymous

TV Anonymous

Selina with Underwood's staff (I'm including Stamper here) would be perfect.

 

Yeah? I am thinking more of the high-intensity Frank Underwood working with the band of fools that is Meyer's staff. Imagine how long it would be until Frank gets his first stroke or heart attack.

 

I'm looking at you, but I'm shaking somebody else's hand!

 

Watching that scene, I was wondering what a real President say in that moment. What did Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush et al say when doing that handshake?

 

Its being the first episode, I do not know exactly who is who. Who is the White House Chief of Staff, for example. Amy was the Vice President CoS, then she became the Campaign Manager. Ben OTOH, was the WH CoS under Hughes. Does Selina retain Amy as her own CoS or Ben as the original WH CoS?

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iMonrey

iMonrey

I'm confused too; I've never had a handle on who Ben is supposed to be. He was CoS under former POTUS and now CoS for Selina? I know Amy is the campaign manager. I'm also confused about who Roger Furlong ("Dobby the House Elf") is supposed to be - is he a Senator? I'm not sure who the Patton Oswalt character is supposed to be either.

 

Finally - I've also lost track of where Jonah is. He's on staff in the new Veep's office? What happened to his news blog thing? How on earth did he get back into the WH? 

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Traveller519

Traveller519

Ben is Selina's Chief of Staff, she begged him to take the position last year, which he didn't want because of the ulcer the job had already given him, but begrudgingly accepted.

 

I'm pretty sure Furlong is still a congressman, and member of the Party Leadership in the House. Patton Oswalt's character looks to be Doyle's Chief of Staff.

 

Jonah looks to have gotten his White House Liaison role back, which was due to Selina's promissing him a White House position in exchange for his Uncle's(?) connections with the seniors' vote in New Hampshire.

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ktwo

ktwo

Every major defense program has spending and jobs spread around multiple districts, so having a bunch of folks who've been in Washington longer than five minutes fall for that was a bit of a stretch. The way it played out was fine, and the ending with Selina unspeakably pissed at every single one of them was satisfying.

Thank you, this annoyed me as well. Also, the VP has his own daily intelligence briefing separate from the President's.

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