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My work pet peeve: customers who make a complaint, and it turns out their complaint means they can’t get what they want based on our policy. They then throw a fit and the higher-ups fold like a tent and give the customer exactly what they want and act like they had no choice in the matter but to cave. And then in meetings they say “we already give away so much stuff; we shouldn’t be doing that!”

No really? 

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For those keeping track at home, the power company (and the town and I'm not sure who else) came to my house while I was at work, and got the tree off the power line, and the line affixed back to my house.  My electricity was not interrupted at all.  Yay!  I still hate ice storms, though, and this one was exceptionally bad.

 

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On 2/11/2025 at 5:29 PM, Dimity said:

I think it's partly that and also a holdover from the Brits.  Newfoundland was a British colony until 1949 after all and much of Nova Scotia and the other Maritime provinces were settled by UELs (among other British stock) so it makes sense that certain British terms caught hold. 

Basically though I think most Canadians use terms that are sometimes British, sometimes American and sometimes something else entirely too of course! but Brit and US do tend to predominate.

Where I'm from (northern England) it's breakfast, dinner, tea.  No snacks except for "elevenses" (mug of coffee and a biscuit at 11am. On the dot.).

On 2/11/2025 at 5:50 PM, StatisticalOutlier said:

Do you use the term "dog's breakfast"?  I didn't hear it until I was about 30 but I use it whenever I can. 

I've never heard of a dog's breakfast, but dog's dinner was common.

On 2/11/2025 at 6:48 PM, Is Everyone Gone said:

It's the winter so my peeve is Ugg feet. Basically, I love wearing my Uggs because they're comfy and cozy but they also make my feet smell hideous.

My kids yearned for Uggs when they first became all the rage.  I had to take one of them to the doctor for a foot issue one time and the doctor asked whether they wore Uggs.  I said "no" and he thanked me and told my kid never to wear them because they have zero foot support and would make finding nice shoes to wear later in life impossible.

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4 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Well, my dogs-in-stores problem will probably go away on its own.  I broke a riveted snap on a pair of shorts and need to replace the half that broke.  I figured I'll take the shorts to Joann to see if they have a snap that matches the remaining half of the snap.  

 

 

I've bought snaps at an actual quilting store.  And I find that Walgreen's almost always has that one weird item that I need to buy and can't find anywhere.  Like the strange size batteries for my scale - only at Walgreen's.

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3 hours ago, Ancaster said:

Where I'm from (northern England) it's breakfast, dinner, tea.  No snacks except for "elevenses" (mug of coffee and a biscuit at 11am. On the dot.).

We can have a new game.  Medically I've been told/ordered to have six meals a day.  I need names for them besides second breakfast. 

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Pets in grocery stores and restaurants are getting to be a big peeve of mine.   It seems to have become a huge issue in NY in particular, apparently a lot of people adopted pets during the pandemic and now think it's cool to bring their pet dogs everywhere, never mind the health codes.   I just think it's an extremely inconsiderate thing to do, aside from sanitary issues some people are allergic (and everyone can't just find a pill to take at a moment's notice) and there are children who are afraid of dogs.  I was bit by a collie right under the eye at age 5 and was scared of big dogs for a long time.  We did eventually get 2 scottie dogs that we loved.  But no one in the family would have taken either of them to a grocery  or restaurant.

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7 hours ago, roseha said:

Pets in grocery stores and restaurants are getting to be a big peeve of mine.   It seems to have become a huge issue in NY in particular, apparently a lot of people adopted pets during the pandemic and now think it's cool to bring their pet dogs everywhere, never mind the health codes.   I just think it's an extremely inconsiderate thing to do, aside from sanitary issues some people are allergic (and everyone can't just find a pill to take at a moment's notice) and there are children who are afraid of dogs.  I was bit by a collie right under the eye at age 5 and was scared of big dogs for a long time.  We did eventually get 2 scottie dogs that we loved.  But no one in the family would have taken either of them to a grocery  or restaurant.

I'm in NYC too, and I can't believe these pandemic dog people.  I've had dogs for 40 years, and we have never brought the dog into stores, esp. food stores.  I still don't do it. 

An idiot in my building also thinks it's okay to let one of his two small pups roam through the lobby with no leash (mysteriously, one is kept on the leash).  I was afraid he would come up and annoy my dog, and I  have to be careful.  I asked him to put the leash on, and he said "my dog is trained!" as the dog eagerly runs over to my dog and I frantically pull her to the side.  Then he gets in the elevator with the famous refrain of the entitled:  "Have a nice day." 

I talked to the super about it, and he was going to remind him that both dogs had to be leashed in the building.  They're supposed to be leashed in the street too, but that's another story.  I hope his dog doesn't run into traffic. 

 

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2 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I'm in NYC too, and I can't believe these pandemic dog people.  I've had dogs for 40 years, and we have never brought the dog into stores, esp. food stores.  I still don't do it. 

An idiot in my building also thinks it's okay to let one of his two small pups roam through the lobby with no leash (mysteriously, one is kept on the leash).  I was afraid he would come up and annoy my dog, and I  have to be careful.  I asked him to put the leash on, and he said "my dog is trained!" as the dog eagerly runs over to my dog and I frantically pull her to the side.  Then he gets in the elevator with the famous refrain of the entitled:  "Have a nice day." 

I talked to the super about it, and he was going to remind him that both dogs had to be leashed in the building.  They're supposed to be leashed in the street too, but that's another story.  I hope his dog doesn't run into traffic. 

 

I saw dogs without humans attempt to run out of the elevator in my building once.  The dogs somehow ran in before their human was able to get in (older gentleman) and they landed on my floor.  I shooed them in and called my building's concierge to let them know.  As for dogs in stores and restaurants, I totally get support/service animals, but aren't they supposed to be wearing some sort of vest?

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37 minutes ago, PRgal said:

As for dogs in stores and restaurants, I totally get support/service animals, but aren't they supposed to be wearing some sort of vest?

I don't know about Canada, but in the United States,, NO!  In fact, putting a vest on them is a ploy--people with dogs that aren't service dogs put a vest on them to discourage anyone from challenging them.

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4 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I don't know about Canada, but in the United States,, NO!  In fact, putting a vest on them is a ploy--people with dogs that aren't service dogs put a vest on them to discourage anyone from challenging them.

It's a real problem in some situations.  And yes those vests aren't issued by any kind of responsible organization (such as the CNIB) they can be ordered online and only serve to try to shame others into not objecting to someone's ferret or cat being taken into stores etc.

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3 minutes ago, Dimity said:

It's a real problem in some situations.  And yes those vests aren't issued by any kind of responsible organization (such as the CNIB) they can be ordered online and only serve to try to shame others into not objecting to someone's ferret or cat being taken into stores etc.

I have a so-called friend from high school who got upset at me for criticizing animals being in stores.  I get the whole support and invisible disability thing (I have one myself), but does accommodating someone have to mean you can't accommodate another person?  What if I'm allergic or have been traumatized by dogs?  She then said that one had a choice not to go somewhere.  Well, so do people who HAVE the dog.

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1 hour ago, PRgal said:

I saw dogs without humans attempt to run out of the elevator in my building once.  The dogs somehow ran in before their human was able to get in (older gentleman) and they landed on my floor.  I shooed them in and called my building's concierge to let them know.  As for dogs in stores and restaurants, I totally get support/service animals, but aren't they supposed to be wearing some sort of vest?

It's only good pet ownership to keep all cats, dogs, etc. leashed or contained when outside their own apartment, yard, etc.  I had a pet stroller when I had cats and they loved seeing the sights safe from other animals or pushy humans. 

You can usually tell a service animal from a pet.  They will be very well trained and well mannered and they won't be running up to people but staying calmly beside their owner waiting to do their job. 

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1 hour ago, Sharla said:

It's only good pet ownership to keep all cats, dogs, etc. leashed or contained when outside their own apartment, yard, etc.  I had a pet stroller when I had cats and they loved seeing the sights safe from other animals or pushy humans. 

You can usually tell a service animal from a pet.  They will be very well trained and well mannered and they won't be running up to people but staying calmly beside their owner waiting to do their job. 

 Which was CERTAINLY not the case with that crock of a therapist I went to a few years ago.  There was no notice that she used a therapy dog in her sessions and I showed up.  That dog had issues of their own and probably needed a therapist too.  Therapist refused to send the dog to a different room, telling me that they didn't do well alone.  I walked out.

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8 hours ago, PRgal said:

I get the whole support and invisible disability thing (I have one myself), but does accommodating someone have to mean you can't accommodate another person?  What if I'm allergic or have been traumatized by dogs? 

Tough.

In the U.S., accommodating the person with the service dog does mean any non-disabled people doesn't have to be accommodated.  A service dog (trained to perform a task for a person with a disability) has the same right to go anywhere that its owner does.

The only time it can be kicked out is if it's causing a problem (like being aggressive, or peeing on the floor, and maybe in a sterile environment like a burn unit).

While we're on this, I've been stewing over this for a while.  In a discussion about pilates, someone posted that she has a deaf friend who wants to take private pilates reformer sessions.  The poster is a sign-language interpreter, and wondered if a studio would give her a free membership in exchange for doing the interpreting. 

The interpreter and the deaf friend are in different cities, so the poster was going to do the interpreting over zoom or whatever, with her friend watching a screen.  And she was suggesting Club Pilates, because they have locations all over the place (including, apparently, in her city and her friend's city).  People responded that Club Pilates locations are franchises, and locations in different cities generally have nothing do with each other, so it probably wouldn't work.

I thought this was a pretty nervy proposition, and said so.  To my surprise, I found out that a business has to provide the accommodation, at their expense.  To me, it's one thing to make them put in ramps, but pay for a sign language interpreter for every private pilates session a client takes?

So I asked about some sort of speech-to-text accommodation (which of course would not result in revenue to the poster).  She replied that English is her friend's third language, plus speech-to-text isn't very good.  And that this proposed barter is quite generous, because a sign language interpreter usually charges about $150 an hour.

Which means the pilates studio would lose money on every session with the deaf client just because speech-to-text isn't what the client would prefer.

The thing is, I have some experience in this arena.  I have to use caption devices at movies, and at some Regal theaters, they don't have the standalone devices that go in a cupholder and instead have glasses you wear that project the captions on the glasses.  I won't use those things.  For one, watching through plastic ruins the experience for me, and for another, they hurt my nose and my ears.  So what do I do?  I don't go to Regal theaters that use them, and always call ahead if I'm going to a new theater.

And I've never figured out how some independent (nonprofit?) theaters get away with not having caption devices at all, and instead have headphones.  But if I were to use headphones, I wouldn't be able to use my hearing aids and the headphones aren't anywhere near as loud as my hearing aids.  So what do I do?  I don't go to those theaters.

Apparently this poster (who is active in sign language advocacy, according to her posting history) thinks I should be able to force a Regal theater to install the captions via a little box system, which is just utter bullshit to me. 

I called her proposal a "scheme," which she didn't like.  😀 

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9 hours ago, PRgal said:

There was no notice that she used a therapy dog in her sessions and I showed up. 

A therapy dog is not usually a service animal.  It sounds like the "therapist" was saying therapy dog as an excuse to keep the dog around all day.  A service animal is one specifically trained to aid a handicapped human.  They have extensive training and standards.  

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On 2/13/2025 at 10:26 PM, Absolom said:

We can have a new game.  Medically I've been told/ordered to have six meals a day.  I need names for them besides second breakfast. 

So what are we looking at here?

7 - 10 - 1 - 4 - 7 - 10 ?

so breakfast, morning snack, lunch, afternoon snack, dinner, evening snack? If you’re American, that is. 

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2 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I called her proposal a "scheme," which she didn't like.  😀 

Accommodations must be reasonable and not necessarily what the customer prefers or demands. It's like your choice of theater.  They all have made a reasonable accommodation.  Some you like and some you don't, so you vote with your feet as I call it.  That's fair. 

This one sounds like a scheme to me, too.  Making the studio offer a service at a loss is not reasonable and the studio would not be forced to make such an accommodation.  I'm not sure what would actually be reasonable in that situation. Perhaps written directions.  It sounds like a difficult one to resolve. 

Ramps and such are one time costs which is fine to make the business cover.  

4 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

So what are we looking at here?

7 - 10 - 1 - 4 - 7 - 10 ?

so breakfast, morning snack, lunch, afternoon snack, dinner, evening snack? If you’re American, that is. 

I start the day with two hour intervals and they get longer as the day goes on.  So that isn't a bad approximation.  They are supposed to all be more mini-meals so snack isn't quite enough.  I just thought it would be funny in light of our discussion of what meal is what name.  I do like the idea of calling one of the last three of the day tea.  

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8 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

my apartment building has a tenant whose husky is never leashed inside the building. outside yes. inside the building nope. I'm always scared it will bite me!

I don't blame you. Maybe carry something on you at all times...what, I don't know but something legitimate. Also, let your bldg owner know that you're very concerned so it's on record that this has been a problem. Ask the police what you can carry for protection.

15 hours ago, Absolom said:

A therapy dog is not usually a service animal.  It sounds like the "therapist" was saying therapy dog as an excuse to keep the dog around all day.  A service animal is one specifically trained to aid a handicapped human.  They have extensive training and standards.  

It was meant for her clients, so technically that dog is "working."  I do not want a therapy dog when I am meeting with my therapist because it will make me more anxious.  Her website should have mentioned that.  

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4 hours ago, fairffaxx said:

What has the dog done in the past that suggests it might bite you, or anyone?

For some of us it's not really that a dog is being threatening it's that we've had negative experiences with dogs in the past that make us wary of any strange dog we encounter.  Especially, of course, those who are not being restrained.  I know I am very nervous around strange dogs, especially big dogs, and this is even though I've been around dogs all my life.

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2 minutes ago, Dimity said:

For some of us it's not really that a dog is being threatening it's that we've had negative experiences with dogs in the past that make us wary of any strange dog we encounter.  Especially, of course, those who are not being restrained.  I know I am very nervous around strange dogs, especially big dogs, and this is even though I've been around dogs all my life.

Thank you.  For me, it's the smaller ones.  When I was two, I was attacked by a tiny little guy who clearly needed proper training.   

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My father hated dogs, to the extent that he'd cross the street rather than pass a dogwalker on the sidewalk.  I've always thought that he'd been bitten or at least threatened in the past (he'd worked as a substitute mailman during vacation periods when he was in college).  So we always had cats for pets when I was a child & they're my favorite animal but I do love all critters, including bats & bugs & worms & reptiles.  I'm very sorry for anyone who suffers any kind of phobia because you're denying yourself so much (especially from doggies).

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19 hours ago, Absolom said:

A therapy dog is not usually a service animal.  It sounds like the "therapist" was saying therapy dog as an excuse to keep the dog around all day.  A service animal is one specifically trained to aid a handicapped human.  They have extensive training and standards.  

I know a family that is involved with training puppies to be service dogs. It's very involved. There are specifics and regular check-ins, and they need to report any health issues to the breeder. One of the puppies they trained didn't pass the final tests and they were able to adopt her -she was such a sweet dog! They are currently "co-parenting" a puppy (without the option to adopt). 

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I don’t mind dogs in stores that aren’t selling food. I would never bring my dog into any store just because he’s better off at home. I’m not a bring your dog everywhere person.

I was at Aldi not too long ago and some guy had his dog in there and the dog was sniffing all the meat, paws up in the cooler, etc. no vest on the dog. Really turned me off. After my Aldi visit I went to the local chain grocery store and the same guy and dog was in there and the dog was all over the produce sniffing, etc. 

One of my students has Down Syndrome and her family recently got a therapy dog for her and despite the “no dogs on school property” rule her moms bring the dog at pick up and drop off. I assume the dog is allowed since it is a legit therapy dog. He’s a German Sheppard and so well behaved. Stays by moms side, lets me pet him, my Kindergarten student can walk him to the car, etc

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43 minutes ago, Mountainair said:

One of my students has Down Syndrome and her family recently got a therapy dog for her and despite the “no dogs on school property” rule her moms bring the dog at pick up and drop off. I assume the dog is allowed since it is a legit therapy dog. He’s a German Sheppard and so well behaved. Stays by moms side, lets me pet him, my Kindergarten student can walk him to the car, etc

That sounds like an emotional support animal.  Service, working, and emotional support animals all help their own human.  Therapy animals help other humans -- their owner takes them to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. for interested patients/residents/workers to interact with.

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57 minutes ago, Mountainair said:

I was at Aldi not too long ago and some guy had his dog in there and the dog was sniffing all the meat, paws up in the cooler, etc. no vest on the dog.

Service dogs are not required to have a vest. 

7 minutes ago, Bastet said:

That sounds like an emotional support animal.  Service, working, and emotional support animals all help their own human.  Therapy animals help other humans -- their owner takes them to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. for interested patients/residents/workers to interact with.

And the only dogs that have a right under the ADA to go anywhere their owner goes are service dogs, and that does not include emotional support animals.

In order to be a service dog, it has to be "individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability."

22 hours ago, PRgal said:

It was meant for her clients, so technically that dog is "working."  I do not want a therapy dog when I am meeting with my therapist because it will make me more anxious.  Her website should have mentioned that. 

I'm still not fully buying it.  I've never seen a therapist with a resident therapy dog.  Any trained dog would be fine and should be moved to another room at the request of the patient.

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24 minutes ago, Absolom said:

I'm still not fully buying it.  I've never seen a therapist with a resident therapy dog.  Any trained dog would be fine and should be moved to another room at the request of the patient.

Which is why I walked out.  She refused to put the dog in a different room, telling me that the dog “doesn’t like being alone.”  I should have written a horrible review.  

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1 hour ago, PRgal said:

She refused to put the dog in a different room, telling me that the dog “doesn’t like being alone.”

So she has a dog with separation anxiety, and imposes her/him on unsuspecting patients.  How unprofessional.  And how stupid, because a lot of people would love to have a doggy to pet during their sessions, for the calming effect.  She shouldn't hide it, she should advertise it.  The patients who'd give her a try because of the dog would probably outnumber those who'd stay away.

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19 hours ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

NAILS IN MY TIRES!!

I got a flat tire once and the guy at the tire place came out with something in his hand and chuckled, "You had a fork in your tire."

You're lucky they'll fix it.  Places like Discount Tire have gotten VERY picky about what tires they'll repair--location of puncture, amount of tread, etc.  We generally try to find a "less polished" tire place when we have a puncture Mr. Outlier can't fix (he only knows how to fix them by cramming that rubbery stuff in the hole).

10 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I got a flat tire once and the guy at the tire place came out with something in his hand and chuckled, "You had a fork in your tire."

You're lucky they'll fix it.  Places like Discount Tire have gotten VERY picky about what tires they'll repair--location of puncture, amount of tread, etc.  We generally try to find a "less polished" tire place when we have a puncture Mr. Outlier can't fix (he only knows how to fix them by cramming that rubbery stuff in the hole).

Oh, the tire place I go to is very good, and not remotely a major chain (it's rather hole-in-the-wall). I felt awful coming in just when they were about to close. They were civil, but I could tell they were slightly grumpy about it (I don't blame them one bit). I was very fortunate that they patched it up, but I still get pissed because this does happen to me more than once a year. I live in a very busy area with unceasing construction, so of course the streets are littered with nails, screws, and other debris just waiting to embed themselves in my tires.

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People who have speakerphone conversations in public. I was in a fitting room at Kohl’s today and the lady a door or two down picked up her phone and put her husband/boyfriend/whoever it was on speaker to discuss where they were going for lunch, like there is no better place for this conversation or you can’t text. I used to hate it when I cashiered too since the customer would no doubt be more interested in their FaceTime call or their conversation on blast to the whole store and would barely look at me. I didn’t expect friendship but not every time is a good time to have a phone call (unless you have an emergency and can’t wait), and you don’t have to make everyone around you hear it. 

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20 minutes ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

People who have speakerphone conversations in public. I was in a fitting room at Kohl’s today and the lady a door or two down picked up her phone and put her husband/boyfriend/whoever it was on speaker to discuss where they were going for lunch, like there is no better place for this conversation or you can’t text. I used to hate it when I cashiered too since the customer would no doubt be more interested in their FaceTime call or their conversation on blast to the whole store and would barely look at me. I didn’t expect friendship but not every time is a good time to have a phone call (unless you have an emergency and can’t wait), and you don’t have to make everyone around you hear it. 

THIS!  I once heard a woman speak really loudly in my ancestral language.  Since I speak enough of it myself, I contemplated interrupting her conversation by saying something really rude (or at least as rude as I can...I really don't know any swear words in Cantonese)!

9 hours ago, chitowngirl said:

I may or may not have interjected in a speakerphone conversation. When told “this is private”, I countered that it really wasn’t.

A friend was in an airport lounge listening to a traveler have a speakerphone conversation about "top secret" business dealings.   She slipped him a note that said "You don't know who I am. And you don't know who I know."

He moved to one of the cubicles designed for such conversations.  

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2 hours ago, Quof said:

A friend was in an airport lounge listening to a traveler have a speakerphone conversation about "top secret" business dealings.   She slipped him a note that said "You don't know who I am. And you don't know who I know."

He moved to one of the cubicles designed for such conversations.  

My husband was on the train home from work years ago and overheard a speakerphone conversation that shouldn't have been happening in public. He rang his counterpart in that company the next day and told them this transaction was being discussed in public. So yes, you never know who can overhear you OR who they know!

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17 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

People who have speakerphone conversations in public. I was in a fitting room at Kohl’s today and the lady a door or two down picked up her phone and put her husband/boyfriend/whoever it was on speaker to discuss where they were going for lunch, like there is no better place for this conversation or you can’t text. I used to hate it when I cashiered too since the customer would no doubt be more interested in their FaceTime call or their conversation on blast to the whole store and would barely look at me. I didn’t expect friendship but not every time is a good time to have a phone call (unless you have an emergency and can’t wait), and you don’t have to make everyone around you hear it. 

 

 

My local newspaper(The Plain Dealer) asked people what was their worst cell phone story. This was years ago when cell phones were becoming a problem in terms of "manners". One story shared was a woman worked in a bank and a customer(woman) was on her phone the entire time. When she was done she proceeded to get into her car, her husband was in the car and that was who she was talking to the entire time, and both continued to talk to each other over the phone .

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9 minutes ago, Mrsmaul2021 said:

 

 

My local newspaper(The Plain Dealer) asked people what was their worst cell phone story. This was years ago when cell phones were becoming a problem in terms of "manners". One story shared was a woman worked in a bank and a customer(woman) was on her phone the entire time. When she was done she proceeded to get into her car, her husband was in the car and that was who she was talking to the entire time, and both continued to talk to each other over the phone .

Goodness, I thought "worst cell phone story" would be something a phone falling into the toilet or down the elevator shaft!

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