Cranberry October 25, 2014 Share October 25, 2014 After a health scare, Juliette decides to ask Avery if he wants to be a part of her life as the baby’s father. Then, Gunnar deals with some recent life changing news and seeks advice from Scarlett. Meanwhile, Rayna sweeps the nominations for the CMA Awards but is up against her fiancé Luke for the most prized “Entertainer of the Year” category. Her glory is abruptly interrupted when she finds out Maddie and Daphne have been misbehaving back at home. While out on tour, Deacon finds his purpose in music thanks to the help of Pam, a backup singer in Luke’s band and country music star Sara Evans guest stars as herself, performing “Put My Heart Down” with Luke. Later, Scarlett befriends an unlikely new friend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bhNqdJwGRk Link to comment
Armchair Critic October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Well, we figured that it was a prostitute that Jeff set Teddy up with. Teddy, don't be an idiot and see her again. It looked like Luke's son didn't want the kiss from Maddie. I still don't trust Luke even though he plays the nice guy with Rayna. Zoey hasn't even been dating Gunnar that long, but something tells me she is going to be a bitch when she finds out about his son. I was hoping Avery and Juliette would get back together but I guess they have to keep them apart for drama. 3 Link to comment
Midru October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) I really enjoyed this episode. I still love Pam. Even more now I think. She really does seem to be what Deacon needs right now. Of course she is doomed, but she doesn't know it yet! For some reason I really love this version of Will and Layla. They remind me of Sid and Nancy, or some couple bound for mutual destruction. Their plot line could be a really good movie. Rayna u suck. I waste no more space on you, except to say through your endless hypocrisies I am now rooting for Luke to play dirty and smoke your butt at the CMAs. And I hate Luke. And I still love Scarlett's new music buddy. Hope he comes back in time to collect the royalties on their soon to be #1 song. For some reason as his story unfolded, I was thinking, "there but for the grace of god goes Deacon". Anyone else see a parallel? Edited October 30, 2014 by Midru 3 Link to comment
Armchair Critic October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 When I see homeless guy it reminds me of his drunk character in 'Waiting To Exhale'. Link to comment
airwair October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 I really hate Rayna. A lot. Tonight solidified that for me. She doesn't deserve Deacon, or her success, or anything as far as I'm concerned. 5 Link to comment
Bringonthedrama October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Zoey looked not pleased to see this woman and boy with Gunnar when she came home. I'll be surprised if she doesn't break up with him. Luke is an ass. His envy/jealousy of Deacon in music, and with Rayna and Maddie, is simmering just under the surface of that ever-present "I'm awesome" smile. Rayna and Teddy are both being idiots - yes, getting a nanny is totally the solution. Maddie needs counseling!! She just gets a pat on the head from Deacon? Grr. Also, poor Daphne. :( I do feel for both girls that their mom just sucks. Her big concern is not getting her due individual recognition apart from her connection to Luke? Ugh. Glad to see Juliette go and speak firmly with Avery, no more crying for forgiveness. Avery, dear, she meant she doesn't want you to be irresponsible in her life/a half-assed father to this child. She was not asking you to marry her. Hope he is really going to man up and quit the pity party. 7 Link to comment
TVFAN October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Avery, please stop acting like such a self-righteous jerk! Let me get this straight. You can spend the night at your ex-girlfriend's beside after a meltdown, and Juliette can't have a friend and co-worker drop off some flowers after a life-threatening illness. Really? You're making me do the unthinkable and root for Derek Hough! Juliette, you have grown up! At least a bit! You had the whole awards thing in perspective and showed more calm, class, and intelligence by far than Queen Rayna tonight. (I'm even okay with firing Zoe. She bugs me on some levels.) Teddy, if you have to hire an escort, something must be seriously wrong with the women of Nashville. You are handsome, bright, charming, and a great dad. (I sometimes still wonder if Rayna and Teddy aren't endgame. She was far less self-destructive when she was with him than anyone since.) Deacon, keep listening to Pam. Your moping was getting old, and it was great to see you sing just for fun. And get off Teddy's back. He loves Maddie as much or more than you do. Scarlett, I actually like you when you help others! Gunnar, wake up. She keeps mentioning your brother. Rayna, stop acting like your father. Luke, go away, and take Jeff and everyone at Edgehill, but Deacon, with you. 9 Link to comment
CMH1981 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) I love Hayden on this show, she just knocks it out of the park. I was like hell yeah when she decided to control her situation and announce her pregnancy but then to also just confirm who the father was. This was all I could think of when I saw where Scarlet's storyline was headed, especially from last week. I hope that this doesn't offend anyone, it's just where my mind went. If it does, I apologize. I'm guessing the Ruke storyline will end w/Luke being abusive and hitting Rayna. All things seem to be pointing that way, especially since now he is pissed that she has chosen to campaign alone for the awards. I also agree that Luke's son did not seem to be into that kiss w/his soon to be new step-sister. Talk about not reading the room there Maddie. He was trying to be supportive and a shoulder to lean on and she interpreted that as kiss me...I hope she was somewhat drunk when she did that. I didn't see Juliette firing Zoey though, even though I should have expected that, it makes sense seeing as how she always has her eyes open for the next big thing that will trying and stab her in the back. Speaking of Zoey, are we done w/her character now? Can she leave town for good? She seems like the type of girl that wants to be w/guys but can't ever trust them. How dare you hang out w/your ex-girlfriend, my ex-now somewhat good friend, you must be sleeping together, oh wait you were throwing me a surprise party I guess all is forgiven for me being a bitch, oh wait now you are hugging this girl at your house so you must have been sleeping w/her since she is your ex-girlfriend. Knowing this show, Gunnar will explain everything except that he has a son to Zoey. Derek Hough can leave too, I mean he knows that Avery is Juliette's ex and the father of the child, yet he barges into a hospital room where the two are having a civil conversation...you know he was outside listening and wanted to stir up some stuff. So Jeff hasn't played his hand yet in regards to setting Teddy up w/hookers in order to get Rayna's kids signed to his label. I figured he would drop that ultimatum right when he informed Teddy of the hookers. Let's face it, Jeff is skeevy enough that you know he has video footage from the pool showing Teddy getting it on w/said hooker...er escort. I bet Jeff has cameras hidden all over his house. I forgot to add the wonderful acting by the actress playing Layla....I loved her scenes in the hotel room acting all drunk and holding the glass like a seasoned pro. Pouring less than 1/4 in the glass, and just....ugh such bad acting. Get this girl off my screen now. Edited October 30, 2014 by CMH1981 2 Link to comment
dbell1 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) Losing Tandy hurts the family. She seemed to be the only one that was ever there for the girls. Wonder if the new 'nanny' will be Teddy's hooker? Or Deacon in drag like Mrs. Doubtfire. Deacon, you really are a mopey shit. Suck it up and make money, then go home. Juliette remains my favorite. Dumps the tour, keeps the role, gets flowers from Derek DiCaprio, fires Zoey, AND calls Avery out on his crappy behavior. Ruke can both get off my screen. They suck as people and parents. Edited October 30, 2014 by dbell1 6 Link to comment
thuganomics85 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Did I understand that final Avery/Juliette scene, correctly? Avery is going to fight for the child, instead of trying to work something out with Juliette? If so, Christ, he's become a dipshit now. And, this seems like a hell of a battle. One of them is successful (if controversial) music star. The other works at a bar, and just recently got tossed in the drunk tank. I don't see many judges siding with him. I hope I'm wrong, but nothing will surprise me at this point. So, Ted finds out that Natasha is a prostitute, but still continues to see her? What an idiot. Jeff is totally setting him up, and I guess will use to this to "acquire" his daughters. After kind of liking him these past few episodes, I'm reminded over what a dolt he is. Gunnar convinces his old girlfriend to stay so he can be a part of their lives, only for Zoey to walk in, after Juliette canned her. Yeah, this being Gunnar, I don't see anyway this isn't going to end poorly for him. Classic Gunnar. Glad Pam finally got Deacon out of this rut, because he was getting obnoxious. I get Luke is a dick and a half, but might as well get something out this situation. Christ, both of the "Ruke" members just suck now. Luke clearly is resentful of Rayna trying to win the CMAs over him; he's hiding it well, but I think it will boil over soon. Rayna though, suddenly seems to be naive about how things work, and kind of a crappy mother. Maddie throws a party without permission, and she simply thinks a nanny is the solution? There is a lot more going on here, Rayna. Snap out of it! And, was she really surprised that Ruke is giving her these types of advantages? Again, she's not coming off like seasoned veteran in this industry. If anything, Juliette seems more in touch now. Besides Luke and Rayna, it looks like they are setting up a Will vs. Sadie at the CMAs, for Best New Artist. I can see some fun stuff there; especially if Layla continues to act up. If this is it for the homeless guy, what was the point? Just to give Scarlett something to do? Maybe he'll be back... 1 Link to comment
Clemgo3165 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Liked that Rayna took some steps to separate herself from"Ruke." Hated her saying to Maddie that the party wouldn't have happened if she'd been around (sure...) and her comment to Deacon, "nice of you to come" said with all the snark she could muster. He surely didn't deserve that. Loved the Deacon and Maddie scene, they really are so sweet and loving toward each other. Avery, get your head out of your ass. You've done the very same thing that she did, let it go. Knew Teddy's girl was an escort and can't believe he has so little self control that he ended up calling her. Wonder when Jeff's pics will show up? Luke really is an insecure cuss, isn't he? So threatened by Deacon getting some attention for a new song. He knows he's all smoke and mirrors and marketing. Pam still looks like she's been rode hard, but she was so right to call out Deacon for phoning in his performances. Zoey and Gunnar can leave my screen anytime, unless they want to put him back singing with Scarlett. Will and Layla are headed for a serious meltdown. i swear Layla is mentally ill, that or the writers have no clue about consistency. Nice to finally see Deacon singing again and Sara Evans earned herself a fan tonight, she even managed to make Will sound good. 2 Link to comment
KR Vermont October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) I love Hayden on this show, she just knocks it out of the park. I was like hell yeah when she decided to control her situation and announce her pregnancy but then to also just confirm who the father was. This was all I could think of when I saw where Scarlet's storyline was headed, especially from last week. I hope that this doesn't offend anyone, it's just where my mind went. If it does, I apologize. I'm guessing Juliette didn't inform Avery that she'd be announcing his fatherhood to the media right then...more drama will ensue. That plot device was brought up here last week and was reported, I assume because that person didn't know it was an actual thing, although the original poster put it in quotes. That same link you gave was then posted after that to explain it. Edited October 30, 2014 by KR Vermont Link to comment
Midru October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) I don't think you can blame Zooey for being upset. Seems the last time she came home, Gunnar and Scarlett are intensely composing together, shutting her out. Next time, her man is now hugging some new skank, and looks very guilty when she walks in. In my view, aside from a little whining a couple episodes back, Zooey has been pretty much a model friend and girlfriend. I know she is not endgame but I want good things for her. It's not her fault she's an obstacle to the greatest pairing on the show. Hopefully this firing will be the classic crisitunity that propels Zooey somewhere good! Edited October 30, 2014 by Midru 2 Link to comment
BestestAuntEver October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 This was all I could think of when I saw where Scarlet's storyline was headed, especially from last week. I hope that this doesn't offend anyone, it's just where my mind went. If it does, I apologize. Don't feel bad that trope popped in my head last week & was confirmed (to me anyway) this week. Rayna, is on to damn much. I hate Ruke, her singing & hypocrisy. Gunner is simple minded. They have made Zoe pathetic & I hate the damn weave & hair color. They are making Avery stupid. I don't know if they think it's drama or what. It's not Can Julietter every catch a break? Link to comment
sparklemotion October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) When I see homeless guy it reminds me of his drunk character in 'Waiting To Exhale'. Forgot he was in that, he'll always read as Bubba to me no matter what... On another note I just don't trust Pam, something in the milk ain't clean... Edited October 30, 2014 by sparklemotion 2 Link to comment
AnnaRose October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 ,,,and her comment to Deacon, "nice of you to come" said with all the snark she could muster. He surely didn't deserve that. Yeah, I couldn't believe how she said that to Deacon. Just when I thought I couldn't hate Rayna any more than I already did. I really hope Deacon finds happiness with someone better than Rayna. He's too good for her. 2 Link to comment
Irlandesa October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Derek Hough can leave too, I mean he knows that Avery is Juliette's ex and the father of the child, yet he barges into a hospital room where the two are having a civil conversation...you know he was outside listening and wanted to stir up some stuff. Why would I know that? I have no reason to believe that his character would be manipulative like that Derek Hough, the person, can be annoying at times but the character he has played has generally been portrayed as decent. He didn't barge in, he walked into a friend's room. And he deflected when Avery turned into a royal dick and accused Juliette of moving on--even though he claims he's done with her. Did I understand that final Avery/Juliette scene, correctly? Avery is going to fight for the child, instead of trying to work something out with Juliette? If so, Christ, he's become a dipshit now. Well, he's a dipshit but I don't think he's going to fight for custody of the child. He's the child's father and he's going to be a part of its life no matter what. He was just responding to Juliette telling him she wanted him completely out of it or "all in." It came off as if Juliette was saying either get back together with me or I'll raise this baby alone. It's stupid they'd have her go to such extremes. He was just bring up the obvious third option of them co-parenting but not being in a relationship. 3 Link to comment
Midru October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) I really hope Deacon finds happiness with someone better than Rayna. He's too good for her. I'm starting to wonder if Luke is too good for her... Edited October 30, 2014 by Midru 3 Link to comment
AnnaRose October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 I'm starting to wonder if Luke is too good for her... Haha! Wouldn't that be something! I generally think they both suck pretty equally and deserve each other... but Rayna is fighting hard to take the lead in the suckage contest. 2 Link to comment
KR Vermont October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 This episode was pregnant with DWTS references, including appearances by DWTS pro Derek Hough and former DWTS contestant Sara Evans. Look forward to seeing how Rayna's appearance on that show pans out and am bummed we have to wait TWO weeks for the next episode. I'm not sold yet that Gunnar is the father. Wow, how quick did the ex-gf say yes to Gunnar's invite to stick around! Can't see Zoe being cool with that arrangement. Eh, this show has me suspending belief several times an episode, so who knows what unbelievable stuff lies ahead. Link to comment
MusicCityFan October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Much to my shock, kind of liked this episode. Two pretty good songs. I can't stand Luke- but Will Chase is a good singer and enjoyed the Sara Evans duet and loved Deacon's song (and all things Deacon). We all know Pam is a pit stop for Deacon- but she at least is giving him a perspective. But I do think there is something up with Pam and her constant text msgs. This episode in my view opened the door for a Luke/Rayna break up / call off the wedding- but maybe it being a mutual thing or even Luke calling it off. Luke is a lot more controlling and image conscious and it's going to really show in the next few episodes. Teddy, seriously? I think Gunnar's earlier line/opinion to Avery about 'cheating isn't the end of the world' will be tested because he'll find that the mother of 'his kid" cheated on him. Don't care about Zoey/Gunnar so don't care how Zoey reacts to the kid issue- except thinking this eventually breaks them up and opens the door for Scarlett/Gunna- which am all for it if leads to more S/G duets. Not a fan of the Scarlett storyline with Mykelti W. He's a great singer- she's a great singer. But we need another of the main characters to interact for me to care about the story- the actress for me can't pull this off on her own. Was sweet seeing Juliette being Juliette again and firing Zoey- though technically there was no tour for her to be fired from. And am still rooting big for Juliette and Avery. I didn't see Avery's reaction to Juliette as trying to get custody of their child. I saw it as Avery saying to Juliette that he has another choice than what Juliette gave him- and that is - to choose not to be with Juliette but still be a father to their child and be in the baby's life. I saw Juliette's proclamation of his being the father as an acknowledgement that she accepts those conditions. So I was hopeful for A/J-- at least Avery is not being a complete ass and drunk and Juliette continues to grow up. Is Derek Hough's arc of episodes over? Didn't mind him that much, but if they continue to keep him around, they need to make him more flawed than what they are portraying him to be- he is to good to be true in the show. 1 Link to comment
Artsda October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Teddy's the only one who knows how and is being a full time parent, he's the only one who saw the Maddie disaster coming and tied to reign her in and Rayna's idea is to hire a nanny? Everytime I see Kiley in a scene, I think of Spy Kids. Link to comment
jester October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) Forgot he was in that, he'll always read as Bubba to me no matter what... I just see Elden Limehouse from Justified chopping a dudes arm off. Could just be my hope he chop Scarlet's hair though.Teddy- don't be so dumb. Is your self esteem that damaged? Gunnar - I thought he was sweet with the kid & the actor did a nice job portraying the enormous confusion of the situation. That being said I think it's his brothers kid. Rayna - Mama Coach would be so disappointed being you. Edited October 30, 2014 by jester 3 Link to comment
madam magpie October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) OHMYGODTHISSHOWISSODUMB! Ahem. Wow, Rayna really sucks. When Callie Khouri decides to ruin her main character, it's go big or go home. The less said about Rayna's clueless, stupid, detached, fame whore, shitty mom act, the better. A nanny?? And Rayna lecturing Maddie about trust was like...what in the hell?? How much time has passed on this show? It's like everything is always on hyperdrive: Rayna and Sadie are besties, Pam and Deacon are cohabitating, Maddie is kissing her almost-stepbrother, Micah is sleeping over at Gunner's house? Holy hell. These pairings have all known each other for five minutes. Aren't nominations for awards shows usually announced at about 5am PST? So Rayna and Sadie were up, dressed, and fully made up at 7am Nashville time?? And drinking? And Deacon's the drunk?? Also, didn't Gunner write "Ball and Chain"? Shouldn't he have been nominated? Oy, Teddy. WTF? Kiley is either lying or mistaken. There's no way that kid is Gunner's. He's too into the family thing, etc. Psycho, drunk Layla is my new favorite character because, in her, the show completely embraces its soap opera crazy. She's this season's Pork Blood Peggy. Bubba Gump singing the blues and cleaning gutters was so "slave hand field song" that my mouth actually dropped open. I love Memphis (LOVE IT) and that city is filled with an authentic musical soul in a way Nashville never will be, but damn. It's like all the writers on this show know are stereotypes and cliches. On the bright side, I loved Deacon's song. Edited October 30, 2014 by madam magpie 6 Link to comment
Soup333 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Was sweet seeing Juliette being Juliette again and firing Zoey- though technically there was no tour for her to be fired from. And am still rooting big for Juliette and Avery. I didn't see Avery's reaction to Juliette as trying to get custody of their child. I saw it as Avery saying to Juliette that he has another choice than what Juliette gave him- and that is - to choose not to be with Juliette but still be a father to their child and be in the baby's life. I saw Juliette's proclamation of his being the father as an acknowledgement that she accepts those conditions. So I was hopeful for A/J-- at least Avery is not being a complete ass and drunk and Juliette continues to grow up. I was thrilled to see Zoey fired. I watched it twice just to cackle at it again. And I'm also still rooting for SaneAvery and Juliette even though this Avery is taking this self-righteous stance WAY too far. He's dumped on every person he's interacted with since the first season. Get over yourself, dude. I was very happy to see Juliette telling Derek that she wanted to see how things play out with Avery. She needs a friend right now, but certainly not a relationship with some random (but friendly). It will be interesting to see Avery's reaction to her announcement and also Jeff's (I'm sure he'll have some kind of smarmy ass remark about it). Glad that Juliette is sitting her butt down though. Figures they'd give her a high risk pregnancy. And...even though S2's Avery is my boy, he was an ass to start arguing with her in the hospital room. Did he even know what had happened to her at that point? You can only try to be with someone for so long before you say forget it and move on. Eventually Juliette will get to that place, baby or no baby. I don't want that to happen, Show! Bring back SaneAvery from S2!! I thought Rayna and Teddy handled the Maddie situation rather well up until they came up with the nanny solution. Had she been a child of mine, she would have gotten her head cracked open for starters. The obvious solution is for Deacon to get released from the tour he doesn't even want to be on so he can spend some time with Maddie. I'm sure he wouldn't mind if Daphne came along. I didn't get the sarcasm in Rayna's comment to Deacon about it being nice of him to come. Why would she have said that sarcastically? I'm going to have to watch it again. Layla can't off herself fast enough for me. I don't care how she does it, just be quick about it. Please. I am anxiously awaiting Zoey's reaction to Gunner's new fatherhood. And where will the ex and her child stay now that they've changed their plans? She would have had to have given up her rental since she was literally leaving town when he asked her to stay. Don't suppose they could bunk at Gunner's for a bit?? The kid looks like Alexa Vega's brother in the Spy Kids movies. That's all I can think of when I see him. If the child is Jason's, she better hurry up and tell it. Luke is totally going to flip out about this CMA shit. Somebody already said he might be the one to call things off and I can see that happening too as Rayna ramps up her competitiveness. Rayna, Rayna, Rayna. Why, girl? Why are you so far removed from yourself? I always found Rayna to be an attentive mother (at least in the first season). What happened? Damn. I just want somebody to smack some sense into her. Scarlett's magical Negro. See, last week I decided I wasn't even going to let it bother me, but now...sigh. WHO's idea was this? I'm thinking that they will use his character to help Scarlett overcome whatever the hell it is that's keeping from from singing in public again. I just...cleaning the gutters...just no. 3 Link to comment
madam magpie October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) I didn't get the sarcasm in Rayna's comment to Deacon about it being nice of him to come. Why would she have said that sarcastically? I'm going to have to watch it again.I didn't get sarcastic, but I did get condescending. It was like a little pat on the head for Deacon and then the grown-ups went to talk.I hate Luke as much as the next person, but it would be so awesome if he dumped Rayna. And then when she went crawling back to Deacon, he was like, " Meh, no can do, Ray. Pam maybe a rough stretch of road, but she's got some fresh paint lines. Later." Edited October 30, 2014 by madam magpie 6 Link to comment
Quiche October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 I think tonight we saw a side of Rayna which is more true. She would not have become the queen of country music without ambition and a healthy sense of competition. To be at the top, she had to put her career first. BUT, then don't pretend otherwise. I don't look down on Rayna for being ambitious or competitive. I look down on her for being a passive aggressive hypocrite. Don't pretend to be such a wonderful mother, when you always put your career first. I do think that Rayna and Luke belong with each other. I don't think she was or will ever be good for Deacon. Pam seems to be the right woman for him. As for Maddie, she is to blame for being irresponsible to her sister. They should have grounded her. I liked all of tonight, except for the Gunnar parts of the show. Luckily his screentime was limited. Avery is not good enough for Juliette. 2 Link to comment
GaT October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Show, please send Layla off to rehab. Forever. Pleeeeeeeeease. Link to comment
Sutton October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Aren't nominations for awards shows usually at about 5am PST? So Rayna and Sadie were up, dressed, and fully made up at 7am Nashville time?? And drinking? And Deacon's the drunk??? On the bright side, I loved Deacon's song. I hate Luke as much as the next person, but it would be so awesome if he dumped Rayna. And then when she went crawling back to Deacon, he was like, "Meh, no can do, Ray. Pam maybe a rough stretch of road, but she's got some fresh paint lines. Later." I also loved Deacon's song but Luke didn't look to happy while he was singing it, Oh well... I'm getting to a point in this series that I want Deacon to find someone other than Rayna. (Did I just say that. It's because I've come to dislike Rayna) I remember what Coleman said back in Season 1 about Rayna (She always messes with your head) And that little smart ass remark she said to Deacon "Nice of you to come" and her and Teddy go and talk upstairs with Maddie why wasn't Deacon included in that little chat? I'm getting to like Pam she doesn't put airs on and tells Deacon straight face about his crap. He doesn't need, I feel sorry for you kind of person he needs someone to call him on when he get pissy and moody and she does that no strings attached. She looked good in this episode. Rayna is acting like a high and mighty snob. The more the series makes Rayna snobbish the more I don't want her and Deacon together. (I can't believe I said that again) Link to comment
crocosmia October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 At last, some good music again. I really liked the Will Chase and Sara Evans duet and loved the Deacon song. Most of the characters are screwy and inconsistent, but I never expect this show to be believable, just a lot of fun to watch. Rayna is a self-centered nitwit these days. Teddy isn't far behind -- calling a prostitute he has to pay to listen to him? He's good-looking and wealthy and well-known, and that's the best he can do? He was fooled by Peggy, too, so it shouldn't be surprising that he couldn't see that he was skinny dipping with a call-girl and that Jeff will soon be showing him the photos and blackmailing him. Deacon's relationship with Pam is all kinds of squicky. She's a loosy goosy who will pick up the next backup cowboy once Deacon is gone. But I don't like Rayna much, either, so I don't even know where I want Deacon to end up. Every time he gets involved with a nice woman, he breaks her heart, so maybe he's just doomed to end up with Rayna, but she'll probably sleep with several other men before she finally gets back to him. There are still a few on the show she hasn't bedded yet. Will is a jackass and so is his wife. They deserve each other. I wouldn't miss either one of them if they suddenly just disappeared without explanation. Good-bye, Zoey. Gunner can hardly handle one girl, let alone three and an unexpected son/nephew as well. Juliette is the best. Her drama is the only compelling story at this point. Avery is being a self-indulgent sap, and they're setting this co-parenting thing up to be a long, drawn-out melodrama that will end up with the two of them back together again. But even that probably won't last long. It's a soap opera, after all. Derek Hough is unnecessary. Luke's coming out as the jerkiest jerk that ever jerked is coming soon. The teasers for the next episode say so. More of these, please: Scarlett and Gunnar duets, Deacon and Maddie, Maddie and Daphne duets, Juliette, Juliette and Avery duets, Glen and Juliette. 3 Link to comment
gpgurl50 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) Also, didn't Gunner write "Ball and Chain"? Shouldn't he have been nominated? Scarlett congratulated him on his nomination. I think the thing that bothered me most about the episode is that Micah was so excited to spend the night with an adult male stranger? I don't think Avery is going to fight for custody. I think he just wants to co-parent with Juliette without being her boyfriend. The second he said he forgave her, she reached for him like she was going to pull him close. I think she would like to be with him because she loves him and to give her baby what she didn't have, not to mention it would have made that press conference go smoother and probably would have been better for her image in general. Edited October 30, 2014 by gpgurl50 4 Link to comment
pattycat October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 I didn't get that Rayna was being sarcastic or condescending, when she told deacon, it was nice of him to come. Her smile was genuine and there was no snarky edge to her voice. But it was an odd line, still. Why didn't she call Deacon, too, to tell him what was going on, if they're co parenting, and why wasn't he included, in the parental meeting, with Maddie? Again, their was more below the surface chemistry, between Rayna and deacon, in a 10 second scene, than, all her scenes, with Luke! 3 Link to comment
LotusFlower October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Bubba Gump singing the blues and cleaning gutters was so "slave hand field song" that my mouth actually dropped open. I love Memphis (LOVE IT) and that city is filled with an authentic musical soul in a way Nashville never will be, but damn. It's like all the writers on this show know are stereotypes and cliches. My jaw dropped to the ground, too. How can the writers be so clueless and offensive in 2014? And it might be a little thing in that scene, but something else bugged me - Scarlett washed his clothes and cooked him a meal, but she served him the plate of food outside!. Because he's, you know - a homeless man. God forbid she invite him inside the house to eat in the kitchen or dining room. 6 Link to comment
Clemgo3165 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 "Also, didn't Gunner write "Ball and Chain"? Shouldn't he have been nominated?" I thought the same thing, and didn't Deacon co-write "This Time?" 1 Link to comment
Bort October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 My jaw dropped to the ground, too. How can the writers be so clueless and offensive in 2014? And it might be a little thing in that scene, but something else bugged me - Scarlett washed his clothes and cooked him a meal, but she served him the plate of food outside!. Because he's, you know - a homeless man. God forbid she invite him inside the house to eat in the kitchen or dining room. You'd invite a homeless man you don't know into the house with you where no one can see you/hear you scream, while you're alone? 4 Link to comment
CofCinci October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) With surgical precision Juliette fired Zoey. She's flawless. I don't think Avery is going to fight for custody. I didn't get the impression that Avery is going to fight for custody either. The scene was more of "I don't like the two options you gave me. I get to decide my role in the baby's life. Let's move forward." After 6 episodes of Avery being a drunken fool, we finally got a glimpse of season two Avery's level-headedness. When Pam first came on the scene, I thought she'd do better as a washed up whore on Sons of Anarchy, but she's grown on me. Rayna and Deacon are endgame, but I can accept this breezy detour for the time being. Luke, on the other hand, I keep waiting for him to kick a puppy or tie Rayna to railroad tracks. Gunnar, don't get so attached to the kid and lawyer up. He looks nothing like you. Edited October 30, 2014 by CofCinci 6 Link to comment
Clemgo3165 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 "I didn't get that Rayna was being sarcastic or condescending, when she told deacon, it was nice of him to come. Her smile was genuine and there was no snarky edge to her voice." I've watched a few times and I still don't get genuine. I'm getting the Southern dismissal. Throw some sugar on it with a smile that doesn't reach the eyes, and then go chew out the Help for letting him in in the first place. Maybe its the line that's the problem. He shows up after Maddie threw a party with alcohol involved and he gets "nice of you to come" rather than a "thanks so much for coming, here's what we're going to do?" "Scarlett washed his clothes and cooked him a meal, but she served him the plate of food outside!." THIS. And it would have killed her to use a real plate and silverware, maybe offer him a shower while his clothes were washing after he'd done the gutters? 1 Link to comment
BBDi October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) Maybe its the line that's the problem. He shows up after Maddie threw a party with alcohol involved and he gets "nice of you to come" rather than a "thanks so much for coming, here's what we're going to do?" I couldn't decide how Rayna meant it, either. But I think you're on the right track...even if she wasn't being sarcastic, it was still dismissive, as though he is kind of a guest in their lives rather than part of the family now. Maybe just a reflection of the new, totally clueless Rayna. Just a few minutes of Deacon singing, smiling, or cracking wise redeems a lot for me. This show is damn lucky to have Charles Esten. Scarlett's new friend has a lovely voice. I'd like to hear a lot more of him singing. I had a feeling she would find out that he used to be 'somebody.' (Show, you are so damn predictable.) Given that the writers have no trouble coming up with ridiculous plot twists, can't they come up with some that involve the characters actually fucking singing for a change? (ETA: Not Luke) Wonder if they've cut down on the songwriting budget. Edited October 30, 2014 by BBDi 1 Link to comment
ElectricBoogaloo October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 So Kiley first showed up in the third episode of this season and she was ready to take off by the sixth episode? I don't want to downplay how hard it is to be a single mom, but dude, uprooting your kid less than a month after you moved to Nashville just so you can try to make it work with some dude you met online seems more damaging than letting him get to know Gunnar. If this is her usual M.O. then I really feel sorry for that kid. If she is always working at the diner, who is watching him when she's at work and out at bars running into Gunnar? You know that sooner or later, Gunnar is going to tell her that she and Micah can move in since he has all this extra room at his fancy new house. Meanwhile, Zoey will seethe about having his ex around and then lose her mind when she finds out that Micah is his kid. There was a similar plot on Pretty Little Liars and Cougar Town, and it was just as annoying on those other shows. Although I do understand that as shocking as it is for the girlfriend/fiancé/wife to find out that the man in her life has a kid, that is no reason to get pissy with the guy because, HELLO, he didn't know about this kid either! It's not like he kept it a secret for a decade or two and decided to spring it on you! I know Zoey will be mad that Gunnar didn't tell her right away but in his defense, he JUST found out and he didn't want to tell her over the phone while she was on tour. I think he should be allowed a cushion of a few days to process it on his own and then figure out a good time to talk to Zoey about it in person. I really wish that Maddie had gotten more of a punishment. If I had pulled that stunt, my parents would have grounded me for life. Not only did she abandon her sister but she invited a bunch of people she didn't know to her house to drink and break things. IDIOT. As a fellow older sister who was often charged with taking care of my sisters, setting a good example, and generally being told to be the responsible one, I know that it sucks when you want to do something and you're told to take your sister(s) along and no, it's not fair that you have to be a mini parent, but that doesn't mean you get to act like your sister just magically disappears when it's convenient for you. If she wanted to vent to Colt, she didn't have to invite all of his friends to her house to do it. I'm glad that she at least seemed sorry about what happened, but I can't believe that Rayna and Teddy's solution was to give her no punishment at all and then hire a nanny. I was expecting her to go all Leisl von Trapp and tell them that she was too old for a nanny, but I guess she was too busy being contrite at the moment. There's plenty of time for her to resent the nanny later! Loved Juliette firing Zoey and then telling her to get out. I'm glad she announced her pregnancy so that no one can blackmail her with that secret now. I do wonder how much backlash she is going to get from the press and her conservative fans for having a baby out of wedlock/having premarital sex. I agree that announcing Avery as the father is likely to cause a fight in the next episode. Too bad we have to wait two weeks for that! Link to comment
Abstract October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) So is it safe to assume that the nanny is going to be an attractive female? And that either Teddy or Luke will get involved with her? Edited October 30, 2014 by Abstract 5 Link to comment
sab85 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 I figured the nanny would be Scarlett since she's a bit adrift and it would give her and Maddie some bonding time. 3 Link to comment
Primetimer October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 On the season's snappiest Nashville yet, the CMA announcements threaten to drive a wedge between Rayna and Luke...if the onscreen branding doesn't crush them first! Read the story 1 Link to comment
jester October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 My jaw dropped to the ground, too. How can the writers be so clueless and offensive in 2014? And it might be a little thing in that scene, but something else bugged me - Scarlett washed his clothes and cooked him a meal, but she served him the plate of food outside!. Because he's, you know - a homeless man. God forbid she invite him inside the house to eat in the kitchen or dining room. I don't know the scene bothered me a bit as well, but I'm a 40 year old white man, so I had to step back and think "if the established African American actor PLAYING the part didn't have any problem with the scene, maybe I should check myself. He would have a much better perspective than I do." And yeah I don't care what color either of them are, I don't think a young woman alone should have a stranger into her home to eat. The porch was the right move. 3 Link to comment
Madding crowd October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 I didn't see Rayna doing anything wrong. She flew home immediately when her daughter needed her to. Working moms do love their children, there is nothing hypocritical about loving your children and working. Teenagers act out too. I am home every night with my teen and the one night I went to a funeral out of town, he threw a party. I didn't get the idea that Maddie wont' be punished either-the nanny is for Daphne so she doesn't have to tag along. I also don't agree that Teddy comes out on top here. He left his young daughter so he could spend the evening with an escort and is even calling her again. He could have hired a babysitter. And when Jeff told him a professional escort is the way to go because they are so discreet, I had to roll my eyes. We all know blackmail is coming. Never liked Layla, but for the first time tonight I get it that she is really in love with Will and that is why she is acting out so much. I'm sure this kind of thing happens and I kind of felt sorry for her tonight. I never get why Juliette is so wonderful and Rayna so bad when I think they are kind of the same. They both understandably, want their careers to flourish and their personal lives too. On another note: I got to meet Jonathan Jackson last weekend at a concert and meet and greet at a bar in Wisconsin. He was very tiny and very polite to the fans! 7 Link to comment
madam magpie October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 I don't know the scene bothered me a bit as well, but I'm a 40 year old white man, so I had to step back and think "if the established African American actor PLAYING the part didn't have any problem with the scene, maybe I should check myself. He would have a much better perspective than I do." Well, this particular established actor went to trial for stabbing (maybe killing??) his ex's new fella and for being a stalker, so I'm not sure he's the best judge of what's appropriate behavior, but even so: An offensive, outdated cliche can still be offensive and outdated even if everyone doesn't think so. At the very least, it's yet another example of this show working in stereotypes rather than real people. I do think it would be smart to not invite someone she'd just met into the house, but I mean...Scarlet already gave up Deacon's address. It's not like that was much safer. Has she never heard of Elizabeth Smart?? Ooo! On second thought, maybe this story is going there instead, and Maddie will get kidnapped by the slave hand field song singing homeless man next time she sleeps over at Deacon's. Don't let me down, Nashville! White girls have to be scared of black men! Embrace all the stereotypes! 4 Link to comment
kia112 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Juliette fired Zoey from a tour...that she was going to cancel the next day, anyway. Whatevskis. I think that Zoey was portrayed as a level headed woman who tries not to play games. Right before she and Gunnar first hooked up, she asked who that song was written about and when he started hemming and hawing, she got up to leave because he was acting like a weirdo. And she told him why. When she felt a little insecure about Scarlett, she asked him if she was a rebound and they had a mature conversation. But this season, Gunnar has been acting like a sketch monster, and she's treating him as such. Every time she appears when she's not expected, he's turning around with the guiltiest look on his face. 1 Link to comment
Charlie Baker October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 (edited) I believe Scarlett mumbled some congratulations at Gunnar, so he did get nominated for writing the song. Edited October 30, 2014 by Charlie Baker 1 Link to comment
Sutton October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 Does Deacon know that his song he cowrote with Rayna was nominaed? Link to comment
Clemgo3165 October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 I don't think so - or if he does he never let on or was congratulated last night. Her name was alone under the song title in the nominations, but I don't think Gunnar's name was mentioned either. Just read on the NashvilleWrites twitter that the scene between Rayna and Deacon last night was supposed to be sweet and that those of us who are members of TeamDeacon should "Take It!" First of all, writers shouldn't be twitter yelling at the fans, and second, it seems like there are bigger issues when so many people didn't get the "sweet" vibe from that scene. 3 Link to comment
marceline October 30, 2014 Share October 30, 2014 So now Layla has become Lindsay Lohan? Every week we seem to get a new version of her. At this point I'm perfectly happy for Will and Layla to just implode in a big Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf style meltdown. Lock them in a room, turn up the heat, give them a bunch of whiskey and PCP, throw in some knives and sharpened rocks then let nature take care of the rest. Well that was quite a little sword fight in Rayna's kitchen between Teddy, Luke and Deacon. Ugh guys, just get a ruler and settle this once and for all. You suck Maddie "Claybourne." Putting your little sister through that just because one of the many, many, MANY people who love you unconditionally isn't at your beck and call. Daphne deserves better than all of this and I'm glad she called the cops. That proves she has a functioning brain unlike just about everyone else around her. And you mean to tell me that the cops get called to a wild teenage party at the mayor's house and the news doesn't pick up on that?! Not one member of the "relentless" paparazzi that chased Rayna and Sadie through town bothered to show up? Not one kid at the party sent a tweet or posted to Instagram? Big fail, Nashville. Fail. I know a lot of folks are all about Juliette/Avery but the thing I love is how they've deepened her relationship with Glenn. It's been slow, organic and a joy to watch. He's someone she can genuinely count on. I loved Luke's duet with Sara Evans. Mainly because I love Will Chase from his days in RENT and I really like hearing him sing. 7 Link to comment
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