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S21.E18: How Do I Live

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ams1001

ams1001

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Oh, F you, Teddy. You asked to open the relationship, you don't get to blame Owen just because you couldn't go through with it. Though I have a feeling if Nora dies Owen's not going to forgive her for it and they're doomed either way.

Jeez, Richard takes everything so freaking personally.

Is that storage room soundproof or something? All that activity in the hallway and they heard nothing? Really?

Where has Dylan's dad been all this time? Shouldn't they bring her mom out in the hallway first before cuffing her? They've still got her skull open, don't they? They didn't need the police in their dirty uniforms in the the OR; she's not going anywhere.

Because of course Simone's hookup is a new intern.

"Picking you every time"...including when you were cheating on him?

Boom. 💥Welp, see you next fall.

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txhorns79

txhorns79

2 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Because of course Simone's hookup is a new intern.

I feel like this is the third or fourth time they've returned to this particular well with someone having a hook up, and that hook up showing up the next day as an intern.  I get that it's basically a Grey's origin story, but you can only do it so many times.  

It was interesting to see Ben essentially showing why Teddy was right to fire him.  He is reckless and arrogant.  It goes all the way back to the first time he was an intern and killed that pregnant woman during the hospital wide lockdown.  He doesn't learn from his mistakes.  Rather, he justifies them and always sees himself as being in the right.

I was confused about the explosion.  The mom said the tank was always empty, but the dad said that wasn't true.  Is the idea that the tank was leaking gas the whole time but no one noticed or did any kind of testing once the ordeal ended?      

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DEL901

DEL901

While Teddie is at fault, Owen isn’t blameless.  When she asks if he loves her, he says he’s married to her.  Yikes.  Just divorce, you two.

And Meredith being the one to come in and talk sense into the mother… really?  She’s all dramatic about her need to both cure dementia and do general surgery.  But now she’s a hostage negotiator too, putting her own life at risk?

And agree with the poster above… yes, disrupt her kids lives by moving them east.  Now she’s wants to move them back, at least part time… that won’t be disruptive at all.  And what about Ben?  Is he expected to move back and forth too?

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marceline

marceline

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I really hate hostage storylines where everyone suddenly sympathizes with the hostage taker. I like when Ndugu told people they could leave no judgment and a bunch did. I would too. Just working at that hospital is putting your life at risk.

Lucas remains clueless in every possible way. Amelia tells him to leave the patient in the hallway but he just wanders in with Dylan oblivious to everything and then ends up a hostage. Also when Dylan’s father said there were no empty tanks, Lucas decides to run to the OR instead of call? Of course he does.

6 hours ago, funnygirl said:

The thing is, this show has been no-stakes for years, so the cliffhanger is meaningless. None of the main characters are going to die.

People said the same thing about 9-1-1. Ask those folks how they feel now.

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FnkyChkn34

FnkyChkn34

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I didn't actually see that coming, of course until Amelia and Lucas did...

I think there's a chance that they'll kill off Linc (Link?).  They kill off at least one intern per class (George first, then the others that I can't remember their names), plus Lexie, Mark, Derek, DeLuca... Honestly, it's probably about time someone else dies.  Chris Carmack might just be ready to move on to something else.  Or whoever his intern was that was with him.  But if they harm Bokhee, we'll have some words...

The thought is obviously supposed to be that the acetylene was leaking out the whole time, whether or not she purposely let it leak out slowly, I don't know - but that doesn't really make sense.  She definitely acted like she thought it was empty the whole time but her husband said that can't be and she'd know better?  Something doesn't add up.  But yeah, it had to have been leaking, and then Linc created the spark with his tool that Amelia wouldn't have.  

I think Lucas ran because no one ever answers the phones in the OR... he probably thought he'd get there faster or at least find firemen on the way too.

ETA:  And yes, I'm very sick of the whole "surprise, the one night stand from last night is a new intern!" storyline.  But, I guess it's become their theme now?  We literally just did it with Linc and what's-her-face, the one working with Ndugo now... They need to find a new hook.  

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ams1001

ams1001

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8 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I was confused about the explosion.  The mom said the tank was always empty, but the dad said that wasn't true.  Is the idea that the tank was leaking gas the whole time but no one noticed or did any kind of testing once the ordeal ended?      

35 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

The thought is obviously supposed to be that the acetylene was leaking out the whole time, whether or not she purposely let it leak out slowly, I don't know - but that doesn't really make sense.  She definitely acted like she thought it was empty the whole time but her husband said that can't be and she'd know better?  Something doesn't add up.  But yeah, it had to have been leaking, and then Linc created the spark with his tool that Amelia wouldn't have.  

He also asked if she opened the valve at all, which she did, briefly. Or are they suggesting she left it open because she thought it was empty (hence the firefighters saying it was empty afterward...because it was by then?)? My question is would the gas stick around in the air enough to go up like that with a small spark? Wouldn't it have dissipated? It's not like Link was doing his surgery within minutes...it would have taken some time to clean up the OR to make it usable for the next surgery. Did they not turn the ventilation system back on as soon as the crisis was over? I googled and apparently acetylene is relatively light and will rise and mix with the air. Also, commercially-produced acetylene apparently has a distinctive smell. I doubt that tank contained pure, odorless gas, since the guy used it for his work, and keeps the tanks in his truck. Clearly he does not work in some kind of chem lab that requires purity. If there was any significant concentration of gas still in the room they should have been able to to smell it.

2 hours ago, DEL901 said:

While Teddie is at fault, Owen isn’t blameless.  When she asks if he loves her, he says he’s married to her.  Yikes.  Just divorce, you two.

When he said that, I said, "that's not what she asked." And then she basically said the same thing. Then she gave her little speech about "choosing" him, which his "I'm married to you" implied is what he was doing as well.

 

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GreysAnonymous

GreysAnonymous

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While the cliffhanger was a little over the top, I actually think the ending may have signified Owen and/or Teddy leaving. 

Winston mentioning he's not the only cardio surgeon meaning the only way to build romantic tension with him and Jules is for him to be the only one. Teddy being so antsy being around Owen, like she was itching to get away from him and the hospital. Owen telling Teddy she made history with the surgery, which would give her grounds to work anywhere else (Hell, maybe she'll go hang with Burke and Christina). This didn't seem like just the end of their marriage but maybe the end of their characters. Maybe Teddy or Owen were in the room near the explosion. I don't know what the writers would do with Owen if Teddy left, so I feel like they both have to go together. His character seems kind out of gas. His story lines are only about his feelings being hurt, him self-righteously chasing some goal, or his bad relationships and it's been that way for years. 

Also, if Teddy dies, Ben gets to stay at the hospital and I doubt they're writing out Ben and Bailey. My guess is Ben's behavior would cause more story tension if Bailey were the chief and had to deal with it. 

Not to mention, the show is pretty expensive now and getting rid of a few leads would decrease costs, so I'm sure they're going to kill someone. My money is on Linc, Teddy, and/or Owen.

Also, they really have to cut it with the Richard's takes something Meredith or Bailey does personally. We get it. Meredith and Bailey are surrogate daughters for him and they see him as a father figure. But even if they were his kids, they would still have jobs, lives and dreams of their own and this is like the eigth time they've done this story (the second time this season with him arguing with Meredith about Catherine).

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marceline

marceline

5 minutes ago, gail56 said:

Ugh, I hope they don't do an Amelia relapse storyline. I will not watch that.

I never need to see Addict Amelia again. Never. I endured that mess on Private Practice and I won't deal with that again.

24 minutes ago, GreysAnonymous said:

Also, they really have to cut it with the Richard's takes something Meredith or Bailey does personally. We get it. Meredith and Bailey are surrogate daughters for him and they see him as a father figure. But even if they were his kids, they would still have jobs, lives and dreams of their own and this is like the eigth time they've done this story (the second time this season with him arguing with Meredith about Catherine).

Richard's tendency toward emotional blackmail has always been a problem. I guess they get points for character consistency.

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ams1001

ams1001

12 hours ago, LexieLily said:

So Meredith uprooted her kids from their village to move to Boston where they are raised by Nick half of the time, and now she's coming back to Grey-Sloan for summers and consults and lab space?

I get that Grey-Sloan is her "home" but if she really just misses doing surgery I'm sure she could do that in Boston without dragging her kids back and forth across the country. I guess she figures while they're out of school they can spend summers with family and friends in Seattle, but the kids probably have more friends in Boston than Seattle at this point. And maybe smarty-pants Zola will have educational programs she'd want to do with her friends in the summer.

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FnkyChkn34

FnkyChkn34

55 minutes ago, gail56 said:

Ugh, I hope they don't do an Amelia relapse storyline. I will not watch that.

100% agree.  She's in a good place now, and she's a better character when she's a ground-breaking surgeon than a hot mess.  Plus, I think if Linc does die, then she's got to step up as "mom" again.  It's clear that Linc has had full or majority custody for awhile now.

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babyrambo

babyrambo

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How silly is it that this show has had more than one explosion.

Guessed the canister was empty but didn’t see the actual explosion coming. Don’t think they’re going to kill anyone, because the show hasn’t had serious stakes in years, but I hope someone is at least badly hurt in season 22. 

Also hope they make good on Teddy’s words and have her actually leave Owen. It’s overdue. And they’re both so much more tolerable when they’re away from each other. 

Just like Simone and Lucas, who were so close to being done and should’ve stayed apart. I’m already over the love triangle I know they’re going to force next season. Like the Winston and Jules slow burn. Because as much as I dislike the idea of their relationship, I don’t buy the professional denial one bit. Also what is up with Amelia? Felt like she was hardly in the season and when she was, she was all about work. I thought they were going to pair her up with the new peds doc, but that didn’t happen and now that character feels like a glorified extra.

Actually, a lot of the mains feel irrelevant. I know there are only so many original storylines they can dig up after 20 years, but lately, everyone seems to be going in circles and it’s a bit stale. Killing someone (I vote Winston, Owen or even Jo—unlikely, because I think she’s a fan favourite but she’s someone I’ve never warmed to) now would be an interesting way to shake things up. And give the show some badly needed emotional weight. 

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txhorns79

txhorns79

22 minutes ago, Snow Fairy said:

 

I had a feeling Bailey was trying to fight for Ben, to make him stay in the hospital.

If she was, we didn't see much evidence of it.  And honestly, he's not a good doctor.  I use the word too much with him, but he is reckless and dangerous.  He started operating on a patient in the ICU without an attending, and he was lucky his wife showed up to help.  He truly seems to think he knows best at all times, and that's really scary.  

 

3 hours ago, babyrambo said:

Just like Simone and Lucas, who were so close to being done and should’ve stayed apart. I’m already over the love triangle I know they’re going to force next season.

I'm already dreading Lucas throwing a fit because Simone slept with another guy after he dumped her.  I just want to tell all these people: "Date outside the hospital."    

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DEL901

DEL901

13 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:

If she was, we didn't see much evidence of it.  And honestly, he's not a good doctor.  I use the word too much with him, but he is reckless and dangerous.  He started operating on a patient in the ICU without an attending, and he was lucky his wife showed up to help.  He truly seems to think he knows best at all times, and that's really scary.  

But he’s the only fire fighting anesthesiologist doctor on staff??!?!  Maybe he does know everything and will bravely save Link from the explosion and be inspired to go back to the fire department?

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ams1001

ams1001

14 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

Grey-Sloan's insurance premiums must be through the roof. 

Along with the OR...😜

Sometimes I wonder how the building is even still standing. They've had fire, more than one explosion, a ceiling collapse from a burst pipe/flood, earthquake, a window-cleaning rig crashing into a waiting room just a few weeks ago (which could have been yesterday or months ago in Grey's World, for all we know)...

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Lovecat

Lovecat

On 5/16/2025 at 12:15 AM, LexieLily said:

So Meredith uprooted her kids from their village to move to Boston where they are raised by Nick half of the time, and now she's coming back to Grey-Sloan for summers and consults and lab space?

Didn't she and Dr. Scott Speedman (blanking on the character name) buy a house in Seattle at the beginning of this season?  Or did I hallucinate that??

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gonzosgirrl

gonzosgirrl

I don't dislike Owen as much as some, and I really like Kevin McKidd, but neither of those things are why I say this whole, entire situation is 100% on Teddy. She had the hots for Sophia Bush which lead to her first making out with someone who wasn't her husband, and then to proposing the 'open' marriage. The self-righteousness with which she dealt with Owen taking her up on it was ridiculous. Do the writers not remember what they wrote a few weeks before? I agree that they should divorce, and that they've both done things wrong -  but this final straw is of her own making. I would be fully on board with her being killed off.

The inconsistency doesn't end with Teddy either. Did Katherine get a personality transplant we weren't aware of?

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statsgirl

statsgirl

Of course there is an explosion in the season finale. Why? It's not like this show is going anywhere.

I know that Linc and Jo just got married by why are they having sex in the hospital? They have a home together with presumably the same bed. I know that this is Grey's where people have sex like others take a drink but it's hard enough to have sex when you're pregnant with one child much less twins. Why would you go through that in the hospital where you could be interrupted or called away?

Speaking of relationships, pushing Ngudu and Millen together is just painful. They have no chemistry and worse, she constantly disrespects him and refuses to keep to his boundaries even though he is the attending and she the intern.  Are the writers so desperate to hook her up with someone that they're fine with ruining him?

On 5/16/2025 at 1:46 PM, FnkyChkn34 said:

  It's clear that Linc has had full or majority custody for awhile now.

We've mostly seen of heard of Scout in connection with Jo's pregnancy because that's how he fits in to the show these days but they have had Amelia picking him up or dropping him off at Linc's. Amelia did break up her last relationship because they didn't want children and Amelia has Scout.

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SoMuchTV

SoMuchTV

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On 5/19/2025 at 1:40 PM, Mirabelle said:

Meredith already has a house in Seattle so she doesn't need to buy a new one. I think the house they bought was in Boston.

On 5/19/2025 at 1:40 PM, Mirabelle said:

(ignore this - quote got messed up)

 

21 hours ago, Good Queen Jane said:

But it’s infested with interns, excuse me, second year residents. Did the roof ever get fixed?

 

6 hours ago, RoxiP said:

For some reason I was thinking that Meredith had moved out of "the" house before she left Seattle but I'm really not that great on fine details.

Didn’t she have another house - the one where she and McDreamy (and later she and the kids) lived? And she was already renting/lending out space in the original house (her mother’s? Not sure if I’m remembering that correctly) to the various interns and coworkers? Not that it matters…

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FnkyChkn34

FnkyChkn34

4 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

 

 

Didn’t she have another house - the one where she and McDreamy (and later she and the kids) lived? And she was already renting/lending out space in the original house (her mother’s? Not sure if I’m remembering that correctly) to the various interns and coworkers? Not that it matters…

She sold the house that Derek built. She couldn't live there without him. 

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MarylandGirl

MarylandGirl

On 5/18/2025 at 8:39 PM, Good Queen Jane said:

And knowing how none of the Grey/Sloan doctors practice birth control, I expect Simone to show up pregnant.

Yeah, when she said, "I'm gonna throw up," which I know was in relation to being hungover/maybe guilt over her hookup, but I also had the thought "I hope she's not pregnant" (though would be with Lucas for her to have symptoms so soon).

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gonzosgirrl

gonzosgirrl

31 minutes ago, MarylandGirl said:

Yeah, when she said, "I'm gonna throw up," which I know was in relation to being hungover/maybe guilt over her hookup, but I also had the thought "I hope she's not pregnant" (though would be with Lucas for her to have symptoms so soon).

Same. Though with this show they will likely come up with some crazy explanation, that no one but Simone will be aware of, why it could be questioned. One other person will figure it out, so they can share furtive looks and pointed comments, before Lucas also finds out.

I feel like my recent posts seem like I hate-watch the show. I really don't. There is a long list of multiple season shows I've watched complete, Grey's is one of the few shows that I've watched, mostly live, from day one. Yep, all 8 million episodes, and I'll be here til the end. Ironically, also from day one, Meredith has been my least favourite character.

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