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Erika is pointing out the hypocrisies of some of her castmates. While defending Dorit Kemsley, she may find herself in hot water. In a previous episode, Dorit made a joke about Sutton Stracke’s drinking habits, and it put the two in perhaps the worst place they’ve ever been. Kyle and Mauricio Umansky discuss their separation further. They’re speaking for the first time face-to-face after he was caught kissing another woman by the paparazzi in an airport. Meanwhile, Bozoma Saint John and her boyfriend will be doing all they can to strengthen their relationship, and Dorit will be chatting with her estranged husband PK Kemsley to see if they salvage their marriage.

First aired on 3/11/2025.

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MissFeatherbottom
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Do you really think Garcelle is that needy she would cling to Sutton that way? I don't see her being that way at all, she is pretty independent. 

Juneau Gal
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I find Dorit repulsive, inauthentic, and 100% unlikable. The show is markedly better in scenes she is not in. She can’t leave my TV screen soon enough. I am so disgusted by the preview scene of Dorit

WaltersHair
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This is the 'I don't (personally) give a crap about these relationships episode. Mo and PK were much needed comic relief, but it seems like both couples have been separated for eons. Bozoma can move o

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FlyingEgret

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29 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

I had no clue Boz's dying husband, Peter, had another woman in his life at the end. 

Man. Yet another successful woman with incredibly SHIT TASTE in men.

I thought she told us or at least intimated that they had a perfect marriage and his untimely death was the tragic end to their relationship. Now there was another woman at his deathbead?? 

Not sure I really care, but strange recitation...

12 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

God this talking head outfit she’s wearing is hideous 

Um, which one - none are great 😂

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Surrealist

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8 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

I thought she told us or at least intimated that they had a perfect marriage and his untimely death was the tragic end to their relationship. Now there was another woman at his deathbed?? 

Not sure I really care, but strange recitation...

No. I'm glad that you said this because I don't remember Boz intimating that her marriage was on the rocks while Peter was dying. The "other woman" being mentioned took me back a bit. I was under the impression that Boz and Peter's marriage was solid and loving.

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Straycat80

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Boz did indeed make it sound like she had a wonderful marriage at the beginning. Tonight that story changed. It sounded to me that they were together when he passed (after she got rid of the other woman). 
Jennifer is right, this is a cliquey group. She should hang out with Kathy, they are both quirky and might have fun together organizing Kathy’s toiletries. 

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Pi237

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This was the episode of the husbands trying every word salad answer possible to Not be the one to say they want a divorce/don’t want to get married yet.  It was entertaining to watch them spin every answer into a plausibly deniable non-answer. PK practically admitted he wants to play around and if he doesn’t find greener grass, then he’ll stay married.  

Jennifer needing her candy at 2am after one of their nightmare dinners lol

Felt so bad for Sutton when she cried, and said I keep trying so hard with these girls. The answer is right there- Stop trying.  F’em. Have fun right in their sour, frozen faces!!  

Funny how Kyle constantly cried about Vanderpump defending everyone else but her, and here she’s doing the same to Sutton. 

Ericka-shut up. 

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dbell1

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Of course, PK wants a divorce. He would like to be able to finish a sentence sometime in his lifetime.

Jennifer Tilly can bring the bling to the show. I love how Erica recognizes vintage couture and appreciates it. But then again, she’s had a lot of experience with old things that didn’t appreciate over time. 

The best thing about having a DVR is never having to watch Boz and her attempt at a storyline baby.

Not a fan of wacky Kathy, she can just wander off into the ocean. I love how Bravo bravo fucking bravo still pretends that one person plans and organizes these trips every year. 
Sutton needs to lean into A: being a villain and spouting whatever nonsense is rattling around in her southern brain; or B: sucking up to people that do not deserve sucking up to and never speaking. 

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RealHousewife

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2 hours ago, Marley said:

Erika needs to stop acting like a victim it's enough.

It's like Erika groups herself with orphans and widows who were stolen from. Oh wait, she saw the actual victims as suspects!

What's crazy is most of the cast was actually supportive or neutral. Kyle and Dorit were definitely on her side. The only time they'd say anything at all is if Erika said "I don't give a f*** about anyone else but me." Kyle simply told her people died, and she should show some compassion. Dorit once said they didn't ask to be in the situation, they just are. 

Sutton and Garcelle were the two with questions, but neither one of them was even like 'Erika was in on that shit." Crystal simply thought she should give the earrings up. Diana even suggested all the women expressing concern for Tom's victims soul pay them themselves. Erika should be grateful someone like Camille wasn't part of the cast. 

1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

Felt so bad for Sutton when she cried, and said I keep trying so hard with these girls. The answer is right there- Stop trying.  F’em. Have fun right in their sour, frozen faces!!  

Funny how Kyle constantly cried about Vanderpump defending everyone else but her, and here she’s doing the same to Sutton. 

Ericka-shut up. 

I felt bad for Sutton too. There is a vulnerable side to her that just wants to be liked. I wonder if it has to do with her childhood and not getting affirmations. 

I thought it was the other way around with Kyle and Vanderpump. Kyle would defend Dorit, Faye, Teddi, anyone over Vanderpump. Vanderpump started out defending Kyle when it came to Kim, Camille, public backlash, etc. She stopped  after seasons of Kyle never reciprocating the support. 

I was reminded of how Kyle treated Vanderpump with how she rarely supports Sutton. She even sided with the dreadful Diana over Sutton. 

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funnygirl

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I don't give a GOTDAMN how Kyle feels about Mo kissing some other woman in Greece when she was parading around with Morgan all last season. Kyle lives to be the victim/wronged party. 

Garcelle hit the nail on the head: why does Sutton constantly have Kyle's back when Kyle never returns the favor? Kyle, at best, rides the fence and never goes against her Fox Force friends. And Erika and Dorit are hypocrites for trying to call out Garcelle for sticking up for Sutton when they always do that for each other. I wish Sutton would stop wanting those women to like her so much. I do like seeing her stand up for herself more this season. 

Tilly clocking how cliquish this group is and how it's hard to get in with the group…and let's be real, Erika only gives Tilly the time of day because of her wealth. Boz got "in" because she jumped to Dorit's side immediately. 

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dancingdreamer

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I lol when Erika  said what about me and what I went through. Omg woman,  you were drinking  and on pills, everyone  was thinking  what Sutton and Garcelle asked, including  Dorit. PK and Dorit won't  get back together,  he looked like she was irritating  him, she looked  angry. How much did they cut out.

Mo only partied for 5 days, his pupils said he still was. Kyle was pretty nasty last season,  this season  we need to have the violins for her. I lost mine.

I don't  understand  Boz, she hasn't  asked him the questions  her daughter  asked, oy vey! 

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Surrealist

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3 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

"It's a little bit clicky"  Ya think?

I liked that Jennifer came out and said it that way because she's not wrong.

Sometimes the other women dance around the topic (except for Garcelle).

1 hour ago, Juneau Gal said:

I remember Boz stating when she was first introduced to us that she and her husband were separated before he fell ill and died. 

I must've blocked that part out of what she said and focused on her husband's terminal illness. It completely dawned on me that Lael was only 4-years-old when Peter died.

I think that's really sad, but she seems incredibly put-together for having lost her father when she was a kid. 

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princelina

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4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Wait she’s just introducing this man to her child? 

She’s already plained the baby .. but she didn’t introduce him to her child? Lord baby Jesus 

oop never mind she explained why .. but girl you are moving fast with this man .. why? 

I haven't watched yet - but didn't she already tell us that he unexpectedly joined her and the daughter on a trip in Africa?

3 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Jennifer is right, this is a cliquey group. She should hang out with Kathy, they are both quirky and might have fun together organizing Kathy’s toiletries. 

Ugh - if that happens I'll lose all respect for Jennifer.  Kathy is fake quirky, like Sutton 🙄

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Dorit, in order to prove a point showed up with two Hermes Kelly bags (a cream in the previous episode and a white one in the first scene of the episode) after she asked Sutton to gift her her Kelly bag. 

"Alleged" things? Erika is in court right now about the $20 million that was siphoned to her LLC by Tom Girardi.

Boz said that she was separated from her husband, she didn't want to ask for a divorce first not to appear like the bad guy, her husband was diagnosed with terminal cancer, and one day she went to the hospital, and another woman who was very affectionate toward him was there (after she saw that woman in his house).

 PK is most probably ready to get divorced because he even sent a multi paged email with terms (eg. what Dorit had to be responsible of paying from now on, mortgage, etc.), or he wants to live a single life without any responsibilities toward Dorit. And he retained an attorney. As for Mauricio, he moved out the week filming started, and the photo with the woman appeared after Dorit and Kyle were discussing if they were ready to move on (they were). I wonder if producers, or somebody from the crew told him about it (he filmed with some of these people for years). Coincidence? Maybe not.

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Sutton always stands up for Kyle? For example, she with Garcelle in person, in confessionals, or directly with Kyle (all on tv) discussed Kyle's marriage, and Kyle's relationship with Morgan (they said - Garcelle- that it wouldn't be an issue if she were a lesbian) many times. 

36 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

Erika.

That’s all I can say. I’m so irritated by her continued downplaying of her sketchy actions that I can’t articulate anything else 🤣

Boz is such a letdown.
 

Wasn’t Kyle the one who asked for the divorce? 

Kyle asked for the separation, so yes. She is now upset that more than a year after her announcement of the separation (early July 2023), Mauricio was seen kissing a woman (August 2024).

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7 hours ago, FlyingEgret said:

I thought she told us or at least intimated that they had a perfect marriage and his untimely death was the tragic end to their relationship. Now there was another woman at his deathbead?? 

Not sure I really care, but strange recitation...

I thought this as well! And now she told us that they had separated and she was wanting to ask for a divorce but didn't want to do it to not look like the villain, because of him being in terminal state with his cancer.

 

Edit: Juneau Gal remembers Boz saying earlier that they had already separated. Thanks! 

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Keywestclubkid

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Erika is fucking ridiculous..and once again trying to gaslight and rewrite her history  

leaving out that she was so drunk and high on pills she was passing out on boats and she verbally attacked a castemates kid .. the same one Dorit told that it wasn’t a big deal cause it wasn’t her kid ..

*roll the tape guys**

yes totally the same as Garcelle defending Sutton ..*eyeroll* 

 

But they were mean to me for no reason Boz .. Boz is an idiot for letting them lie to her and not getting the full story but hand waves it away and is now making fun of Sutton? Like be for real here 

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Keywestclubkid

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2 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Seriously! They keep taking saying they need to work on their ‘communication’. He needs to just tell her to STFU for a minute. 
 

 

This part

 

Him telling her that it wasn’t her place to decide and pick out where he lives during the separation and her steamrolling over it .. he tells her what he wants and she deflects and try’s to beat him down till he changes his answer .. 

 

I guess pj is tired of her long winded responses without getting a say or word in himself 

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Baltimore Betty

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2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

But they were mean to me for no reason Boz .. Boz is an idiot for letting them lie to her and not getting the full story but hand waves it away and is now making fun of Sutton? Like be for real here 

See that is what makes Boz messy.

I thought Boz came in as a friend of Sutton's because she was invited to Sutton's party as a guest, not a plus one of anybody so I would have thought Boz would have some alliance with Sutton.  For Boz to believe everything that Dorit says is a shame since she knows that Dorit and Sutton do not get along...that is not a good guest/friend.

Boz's boyfriend has to stop with the wanting multiple children with Boz, it is beyond fake. 

After seeing a little more of Boz's house I would feel safe to say she is a maximalist to the point that if you were to stand still against a wall you would disappear completely no matter what you were wearing.

The height difference between Kyle and Boz was alarmingly funny.

 

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Pi237

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

This part

 

Him telling her that it wasn’t her place to decide and pick out where he lives during the separation and her steamrolling over it .. he tells her what he wants and she deflects and try’s to beat him down till he changes his answer .. 

 

 

She was all offended that they didn’t discuss the apartment. Why should he check with her on where he lives? As he said, she’s in their house and he’s moved to a tiny apartment. What discussion is there? Did she want to be sure it was designer enough for the children to visit?  I honestly always thought he was more controlling, picking the name for her bathing suits, naming her wedding dresses, basically insisting she stay friendly with Vanderpump.  But I don’t know, seeing shades of Dorit making the decisions. I knew he was done with her when she spent the whole time complaining about how his Pretty woman surprises weren’t good enough. Run, PJ! 
 

Garcelle was a little shady, but I don’t blame her-why should they all rally around Kyle’s hurt feelings about the photo of Mau (‘kissing a child…I mean young person….lmao) yet, any discussion of Morgan is forbidden.  If they all have to be honest, so should Kyle. 

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1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

She was all offended that they didn’t discuss the apartment. Why should he check with her on where he lives? As he said, she’s in their house and he’s moved to a tiny apartment. What discussion is there? Did she want to be sure it was designer enough for the children to visit?

I was multitasking while watching, so might have entirely missed the context, but I came away from that discussion with the impression that Dorit wanted to make sure that the apartment was small/not expensive (I assumed either to avoid spending lots of money or to punish him to the point that he'd want to come home just to be back in the house).  I didn't get the impression that she was against a tiny apartment.  I can't be bothered to go back and check though (I've already deleted the episode from the DVR).  Dorit really bugs me, so I'm inclined to think the worst of her though.

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Baltimore Betty

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29 minutes ago, MMLEsq said:

I was multitasking while watching, so might have entirely missed the context, but I came away from that discussion with the impression that Dorit wanted to make sure that the apartment was small/not expensive (I assumed either to avoid spending lots of money or to punish him to the point that he'd want to come home just to be back in the house).  I didn't get the impression that she was against a tiny apartment.  I can't be bothered to go back and check though (I've already deleted the episode from the DVR).  Dorit really bugs me, so I'm inclined to think the worst of her though.

I thought she was worried about the apartment size because she and the kids might have to live there someday.

2 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

They aren't obligated to wear the bathing suits, etc that Boz gifted them for the trip to St Lucia are they? Boz is the last one of these women I would want to style me. 

You have to give Boz credit for figuring out that bathing suit within a bathing suit with many straps and arm holes and whatnot, lol. 

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Surrealist

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5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

But they were mean to me for no reason Boz .. Boz is an idiot for letting them lie to her and not getting the full story but hand waves it away and is now making fun of Sutton? Like be for real here 

I kind of wonder if Boz feels sorry for Dorit, and that's what's driving their friendship. It's kind of like what happened with Garcelle and Sutton, but that seems to have turned into a real life friendship.

I would expect Boz to be the type of person who wants all the details from everyone, but maybe she just really likes Dorit. 🤷🏻‍♀️

2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

this part!!

Lael is a perceptive girl!

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ivygirl

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17 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

I would expect Boz to be the type of person who wants all the details from everyone, but maybe she just really likes Dorit. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I thought this as well! She's apparently very successful and INITIALLY came off as no-nonsense. But watching her with Dorit--and seeing her play into this "potential multiple children with an... interesting... guy" storyline got me to rethink that.

 

I also think Boz deliberately punted that stuff to Lael so she didn't have to be the one to ask the questions. Like, her head is in the sand AND she herself isn't sure she really wants to have kids with this guy, so she offloads the questions to a potentially skeptical kid.

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ivygirl

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Just now, Marley said:

I've decided that PK & Dorit's divorce storyline is fake. She was on WWHL last night & it made it seem even faker. She can barely give any details on it & just always says the same bs we aren't communicating excuse. They aren't telling the kids probably because they aren't separated. No proof of this just how it seems to me lol.

Dorit FAKE??? 
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Cosmocrush

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2 hours ago, Pi237 said:

I knew he was done with her when she spent the whole time complaining about how his Pretty woman surprises weren’t good enough. Run, PJ! 

In Dorit's defense (I know!  😳) that was a lame ass cheap display, especially with the rented jewelry and maybe the dress was rented too?   Plus I think Dorit enjoys the planning of outfits/hair and getting herself dolled up and photographed etc. so springing a quick wardrobe change on her just meant he didn't really know her as well as we do, lol.  It was probably the only time I've agreed with Dorito. 

If you can't afford it PK, then don't do it.   However, not sure if PK ever adopted that philosophy. 

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