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S03.E09: A Silent Assassin

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DEL901

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Britany’s reaction to it being Danielle will be interesting.   She has already stated that being recruited this late is dangerous.  I’d like to see her turn on Danielle next week at the round table.   

I liked Gabby’s call back to Bob vs Rob.  Everyone is primed to take out Danielle next and it would be delicious if the Faithful she has been trying to recruit for a while is her demise. 

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seltzer3

seltzer3

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

Damn.  I really wanted Carolyn to be the last Traitor standing.

With how sloppily she's played so far, I am shocked that it was Danielle instead.

I feel like the editing has been really bad on Danielle.  Because in a lot of exit interviews, virtually every eliminated player (except for Jeremy) was shocked that she was the traitor.

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SourK

SourK

I love Carolyn and I'm sorry to see her go, but she really misplayed the chess challenge. Not because of what the answers were -- because she kept insisting on the right answer when no one else was saying it.

Side question: Does someone British have to be in the cast in order for the show to get filmed at the castle or something? Because I feel like the American version always has this lone English player. I keep forgetting Ivar is there.

4 minutes ago, seltzer3 said:

Also, I realize that Dolores and Tom could essentially screw over the faithfuls from actually winning, since they keep voting for each other and throwing their votes away.

I thought it was so funny when the dramatic music was playing and everyone was voting Carolyn or Danielle, and Tom was like, "So, I voted Dolores..."

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AntFTW

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46 minutes ago, seltzer3 said:

Also, I realize that Dolores and Tom could essentially screw over the faithfuls from actually winning, since they keep voting for each other and throwing their votes away.

This has to be the stupidest shit I've ever seen. These two voting for each other is ridiculous! At first, I thought Dolores was just burning her vote and then Tom votes for Dolores.

38 minutes ago, SourK said:

Side question: Does someone British have to be in the cast in order for the show to get filmed at the castle or something? Because I feel like the American version always has this lone English player. I keep forgetting Ivar is there.

Who was the lone English player in the first season? 🤔

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AntFTW

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Loved this episode.

I liked Carolyn as a traitor, but I didn't really care for her strategy as a traitor. While I agree that the others weren't listening to her, I think she also wasn't listening to them. She may have caved because she was outnumbered but I don't think she was all that open to listening to them.

During the challenge, Carolyn spoke more than she should have. I think she sunk herself more than Danielle sunk her. Danielle certainly took advantage of the fact that Carolyn sunk herself.

Good for Gabby for sniffing that this may have been a "traitor vs. traitor" roundtable. I hope she continues with that. Did I not give Gabby enough credit before?

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30 Helens

30 Helens

3 hours ago, NeenerNeener said:

Yeah, Danielle is just so over the top I don't know how any of the others can believe her. Gabby may finally have her number, though.

Which may make Gabby a strong candidate for the next murder. Britney heard her suspicions and if she wants to protect Danielle, she’ll tell her. 

Carolyn, Carolyn. So wrapped up in her own insecurities that she couldn’t see that people actually were listening to her, nobody suspected her, and she could have ridden this train to the end. But instead she engineered such an obvious trainwreck that not even Porter Efron could stay on board. I was really hoping she’d prevail over Danielle because Danielle irritates me more every week. I also think Carolyn would have made a smarter recruiting choice.

But maybe Danielle is playing a long con. Maybe she is recruiting Britney just to betray her and get long-smoldering vengeance for those Reindeer Games that wounded her so deeply. But my money is on Britney, and if she manages to “backstab” Danielle a second time, I’ll laugh for days.

3 hours ago, SourK said:

I keep forgetting Ivar is there.

So do his fellow players.

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janeyjay

janeyjay

Intense Roundtable. Danielle and Carolyn yelling trying to toss each other under the bus. Silence for the most part from everyone else as they watch and process. You're certain that all the votes will fall on one side or the other.

And then Tom and Dolores pop up and throw their beef onto the table, Spy vs Spy style. The cackling from me when they both had essentially worthless votes... this feud is one I never knew I needed.

What I know I will never need again is a dramatic over-reaction from Danielle. This is just a game -- no one is going off to war or actually being murdered. Take it down several notches, woman. Me thinks (and probably Gabby as well) thou dost protest/emote too much.

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Kiki777

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Tom and Dolores remind me of that Spider-Man meme where they’re all pointing at each other.

I feel like Danielle will be voted out next, her round table reaction was over the top and people already are snarking about her murder reactions.  I hope Brittany accepts the recruitment offer and Danielle gets voted out right away.  At this point with Carolyn gone, I don’t even know who I’m rooting for anymore.  Wouldn’t it be funny if Ivar emerged from the shadows to somehow take it all? 

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MicheleinPhilly

MicheleinPhilly

I'm back at the point I was in last season where I don't want any of these people to win anything and I just want them to donate the prize pot to an animal rescue organization or something. 

In addition to Danielle's Razzie-worthy acting, can we also stop with the dramatic, hands to the face, ZOMG!, when someone knocks on the door at breakfast? Looking at you, Gabby. I sincerely hope she is murdered because her vocal fry alone makes my skin crawl. Although I did laugh during the challenge when she again forgot that Ivar even existed. Not that anyone would have suggested that he was running the game. 

Can this show also stop with the incessant Kate worship? Yes, she was amusing during season 1 but I don't need to see her in EVERY FUCKING SEASON. At least it was a brief appearance. 

I don't think Britney will refuse because this late in the game, you have to accept. But it would be pretty advantageous to Danielle if she does because no one would suspect that Danielle would murder her bestie. Of course, they could suss that Danielle tried to recruit her. 

I don't know. These people are all idiots and we're once again limping to an underwhelming finale. 

 

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fishcakes

fishcakes

Danielle is a garbage person. I don't care one way or the other about Carolyn, but it's clear that her oddness is genuine . And honestly, it's so pronounced that I wouldn't be surprised if it has a medical explanation because there's quirky and then there's Carolyn. For Danielle to use it against her and claim it's an act to manipulate people is so dirty.

I'm not counting on it, but I hope Britney turns on Danielle and gets her banished next week. Though any way that Danielle goes out is okay with me; I just don't want her to see a dime.

I'm kind of hoping for an Ivar win at this point because he really doesn't care about any of it. He'd just go, "oh, I won, did I? Lovely." Though I guess he has to share it, so I'd be happy to see Tom's crazy ass stumble into the win as well just because him winning would annoy the other players the most.

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DEL901

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2 hours ago, fishcakes said:

Danielle is a garbage person. I don't care one way or the other about Carolyn, but it's clear that her oddness is genuine . And honestly, it's so pronounced that I wouldn't be surprised if it has a medical explanation because there's quirky and then there's Carolyn. For Danielle to use it against her and claim it's an act to manipulate people is so dirty.

I'm not counting on it, but I hope Britney turns on Danielle and gets her banished next week. Though any way that Danielle goes out is okay with me; I just don't want her to see a dime.

I'm kind of hoping for an Ivar win at this point because he really doesn't care about any of it. He'd just go, "oh, I won, did I? Lovely." Though I guess he has to share it, so I'd be happy to see Tom's crazy ass stumble into the win as well just because him winning would annoy the other players the most.

I agree about Carolyn.  She was exactly the same on Survivor.  

And then there is Gabby.  She is just playing the ditz.  Besides being the Bachelorette and before that an NFL cheerleader, she humanitarian award winner from the NFL for her frontline work during the pandemic as an ICU nurse.

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30 Helens

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Exit interview with Carolyn. Worth reading if only for her overreaction to the idea of touching Boston Rob’s face. (The horror!)

https://ew.com/the-traitors-carolyn-wiger-reacts-roundtable-dying-inside-11683644

It’s a little surprising that she doesn’t understand just where she went wrong. If not for completely exposing herself at that challenge (and also completing the quiz in the turret, where she made the big mistake of misreading the others’ opinion of her), she would have had Discount Efron’s vote. He was with her until that. 

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NeenerNeener

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16 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Carolyn, Carolyn. So wrapped up in her own insecurities that she couldn’t see that people actually were listening to her, nobody suspected her, and she could have ridden this train to the end.

Carolyn missed a golden opportunity during the round table to remind everyone that Danielle has played this game like she knows she can't be murdered. She was Santa Claus giving out shields to her chosen friends during that game where they had to smash the pots based on the questions Alan was asking. She never kept a shield for herself. 

Rob would probably have lasted longer in the game if he'd taken out Danielle first instead of Bob the Drag Queen.

Oh well...coulda woulda shoulda

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ichbin

ichbin

I haven't watched Survivor in years so I was never on board the Carolyn train like others who already familiar with her and her particular brand of play. I didn't really care if she left or not, however, the one thing I didn't want to see is her leaving before Danielle!

Danielle is acting so proud of her excellent skills while the truth is that this is one of the lamest bunch of contestants for weeks now.  The left that have any ability to reason and make deductions are also easily mislead.  Her gameplay is exactly what I remember going back to her first go at Big Brother which is basically just shit talking other contestants.  Does anyone buy her saying she wants to bring Britney with her to the end and share the prize? I don't! 

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violet and green

violet and green

2 hours ago, Lukeysboat said:

The way that giant traitor figure moved on the chess board was cool. 

Yeah, I loved that. I was thinking it was a robot, and then that it was a guy in a cleverly designed suit, maybe on rollerblades! I'd love to know how they got that motion.

So completely bummed that a) Carolyn is out and b) that obnoxious Danielle got her way. I hated the aggressive way she interupted Carolyn and derailed her chain of thought, leaving her unable to formulate the arguments she was about to present at the round table.

It will be a boring end game if Brittany sails to the end. I am now hoping for any combo of or all three of Gabby, Dylan, and Tom to make it to the end. Tom's facial reactions are really enjoyable, and he is often spot on in his assessments.

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Soapy Goddess

Soapy Goddess

18 hours ago, janeyjay said:

What I know I will never need again is a dramatic over-reaction from Danielle. This is just a game -- no one is going off to war or actually being murdered. Take it down several notches, woman. Me thinks (and probably Gabby as well) thou dost protest/emote too much.

1000x yes!  The faithfuls are obviously overlooking her theatrics, but have you also noticed how she shakes & trembles when she's talking to the others? It only happens when she feels she's being cornered/about to be found out. That, to me, would be a dead giveaway (besides the over-the-top theatrics).

13 hours ago, fishcakes said:

I don't care one way or the other about Carolyn, but it's clear that her oddness is genuine

Having watched Carolyn on Survivor, I can confirm her "oddness" is genuine.

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ladle1

ladle1

Well, I'm disappointed. I didn't find Danielle very likeable, and I was hoping Carolyn would take it all the way.

That said, I don't really understand the level of vitriol being directed toward Danielle on social media. 

Is Danielle playing a good name? I don't think so! Is it the game I would have played? Nope! Are the shaking and crying ridiculous and annoying? Sure! But, I don't think she's done anything totally egregious. It's not like Dan throwing Phaedra under the bus at the last minute. 

I think Danielle messed up by losing Carolyn's trust so early in the game, but after that, Carolyn was dead set on not trusting her (understandably). So, what was Danielle to do? Carolyn was coming for her, and Danielle had to fire back. Also, I love Carolyn but she shot herself in the foot with how vocal she was about the chess answers (girl. shush!). 

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ladle1

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On 2/20/2025 at 11:05 PM, seltzer3 said:

Also, I realize that Dolores and Tom could essentially screw over the faithfuls from actually winning, since they keep voting for each other and throwing their votes away.

Or what if the two of them form an unlikely alliance and end up winning the whole thing? 

I do wonder if there's a way they could encourage people to try to vote for contestants they actually think are traitors. As folks have mentioned here, sometimes contestants burn their votes on random people, and prior contestants have mentioned that they knew people were traitors (e.g. Phaedra) but didn't vote for them for gameplay reasons. Maybe if each player got a little monetary boost every time they voted for someone who was banished as a traitor? And, no murders on the nights when traitors are banished (though, yeah, that would mess with the filming schedule). 

18 hours ago, fishcakes said:

And honestly, it's so pronounced that I wouldn't be surprised if it has a medical explanation because there's quirky and then there's Carolyn.

She's been open about her neurodivergence.

peachmangosteen

peachmangosteen

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On 2/20/2025 at 10:57 PM, seltzer3 said:

I feel like the editing has been really bad on Danielle.  Because in a lot of exit interviews, virtually every eliminated player (except for Jeremy) was shocked that she was the traitor.

Well, she's swearing on her grandchildren that she's not a traitor so that's probably getting some people to believe she couldn't be lying.

On 2/20/2025 at 11:52 PM, AntFTW said:

This has to be the stupidest shit I've ever seen. These two voting for each other is ridiculous! At first, I thought Dolores was just burning her vote and then Tom votes for Dolores.

I think Dolores definitely burned her vote this time. She's close to Carolyn and Danielle so she either didn't wanna vote for them for that reason or because she wasn't exactly sure which one was gonna go and she didn't wanna blow up the relationship she has with whoever stayed. This would be particularly true if she already suspected one or both of them were traitors.

20 hours ago, fishcakes said:

I'm kind of hoping for an Ivar win at this point because he really doesn't care about any of it. He'd just go, "oh, I won, did I? Lovely." Though I guess he has to share it, so I'd be happy to see Tom's crazy ass stumble into the win as well just because him winning would annoy the other players the most.

Ivar gives me massive sexist vibes so I can't root for him but he does crack me up with how utterly clueless he is.

2 hours ago, ladle1 said:

I do wonder if there's a way they could encourage people to try to vote for contestants they actually think are traitors. As folks have mentioned here, sometimes contestants burn their votes on random people, and prior contestants have mentioned that they knew people were traitors (e.g. Phaedra) but didn't vote for them for gameplay reasons. Maybe if each player got a little monetary boost every time they voted for someone who was banished as a traitor? And, no murders on the nights when traitors are banished (though, yeah, that would mess with the filming schedule).

I don't know why I never thought of it, but yea giving the people who voted for a traitor that was banished extra money personally is probably the best/easiest way to accomplish this so I really hope they try that next season. The game has already become pretty stale and it's only season 3 so I hope they try something to change things up.

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