S14.E8: A Perfect Storm Out

[ladle1]

Kyle: "I just want to say one thing and then I'm leaving."

Boz, in unconvincing, Willy Wonka-esque affect: "No...please...don't." 

[Natalie68]

17 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Bozoma hosts a healing spa day for the ladies that proves to be anything but serene; Garcelle receives a long overdue apology; Kyle is confronted with mounting suspicions.

First aired on 1/21/2025.

Kyle's hair looks super bad.  In the light, her color is terrible and the ends are bad. With all the money she spends on her face, she could spend a few hundred and have a proper color and cut done.  

I really like Boz.  She calls out Kyle's bs like a viewer!

Giving Porsha a Porsche. That is what every 16 year old needs.

16 hours ago, Pi237 said:

"The common denominator is you [Dorit]"

Dorit- "Hey!" 😂

I like that Boz and Dorit are friends.  Dorit went to WWHL with her.  Kyle was never a good friend.  BUT!  Around the reunion, she said she and Dorit were never close.  NOW, she says she loves Dorit's family.  It's how she treats her sisters so that tracks.

[ladle1]

16 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Three words I’m tired of hearing on this show: texts, jokes, memes. 

I believe you are referring to "texas" and "mims"? 

16 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

When they storm off it’s the tell .. Tamra from OC does the same thing .. you’ll never see my face again and runs away .. at this point it’s kinda funny it’s so redundant 

Right?! I half expected Kyle to run into a bush. 

16 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Last week Garcelle and Sutton were all buddy buddy with Kyle and now they are against her over a stupid text? I don’t get it. These women are not real friends. 

I think you answered your own question in the last sentence. :)

[Natalie68]

10 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Why does Boz think it's suspicious Kyle told some of the other women, and not her (and Dorit) first about PK's texts? She was in the hospital for an operation. And Dorit was not present. Not all the women are together all the time. Dorit has a storyline to pursue which is all about Kyle. And it seems Boz, as well. 

Do the women (and Dorit) seriously think that PK would reveal/discuss anything personal to Kyle, especially after the separation? Do they think the viewers are so naive?

It seems Dorit is going to continue because she will ask Kyle to show loyalty to her per the previews, after Kyle told her she will stop communicating with PK. Bravo directs the women to beat storylines to death, specifically for a whole season, even beyond. 

It seems to me that Kyle regrets asking Mauricio for a separation. I doubt Mauricio would ever divorce her otherwise. 

I am sure she didn't expect him enjoy it so damn much!

4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Erika without makeup, on camera, for that many minutes.

By golly. Erika Jayne is average-looking.

And, maybe I am not objective, but it looks like Erika and Kyle have gained a little weight after discontinuing their Ozempic use.

 

Her makeup artists deserve a raise.  Very splotchy yet they make her skin look flawless.

[RealHousewife]

Other than the rosacea, Erika really does have very beautiful skin though. Makeup can only do so much. I don’t see any wrinkles, sagging, pores, etc. I think she has the prettiest skin of them all actually. Covering up some redness is not a big deal. 

[ladle1]

In the matter of Kyle v. Dorit, I guess I'm Team Dorit - though, I also loathe Dorit, so it's hard to get too worked up either way. 

That said, I want to say three things slightly in defense of Kyle. (I know! I KNOW!). 

1 - I think it's possible that Kyle and Dorit were saying two different things in their conversation. Kyle was saying "PK doesn't [present tense] talk to me about his relationship with you" and Dorit was saying that he has in the past - at least, back when Mau lived with Kyle (which was, like, at least a year ago by the time the conversation was taking place, I think?). And I actually think this is a fair distinction to make.

2 - The Texas is incredibly damning but... why share it?!? This is what I keep coming back to. Why would you share a text that makes it seem like you're chatting with your friend's ex about her? Especially after saying that you had only exchanged memes and jokes?? One possibility I guess is that Kyle really isn't chatting with PK about Dorit, so it didn't occur to her that the text would be taken that way. Another possibility is that Kyle is a fucking idiot. A third possibility is that she expected PK to leak the text and wanted to get in front of it. A fourth possibility is that she wants to maintain her spot on the show and is consciously creating drama. A potpourri of possibilities! 

3 - Her hair looked phenomenal at the spa day. Whatever illegal keratin process she's using these days, I want on board.

[princelina]

11 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Why does Boz think it's suspicious Kyle told some of the other women, and not her (and Dorit) first about PK's texts? 

It seems to me that Kyle regrets asking Mauricio for a separation. I doubt Mauricio would ever divorce her otherwise. 

I think because Kyle said she didn't need to show her phone to anyone, then showed it to a select few to keep the storyline going.  Just another wrong move from Kyle.  And I agree she's ruing the day she asked for a separation - the fun season of pretending to be a lesbian has ended, and now Mauricio and Portia are off to Europe without her 😫

[Crazydoxielady]

What a trite tiresome episode. Boz plans a spectacular spa day and along comes Kyle in full victim mode spazzing out, screaming, and running off. I guess I never knew she was a producer until now, and I was looking for her name in the credits. If that is the case, the "Kyle special privilege" of it all makes sense. She is never called out on her shit until now and is absolutely flabbergasted anyone has the balls to do it. I wanted Dorit to let her run off crying, because we all know Kyle is incapable of imagining what she did was wrong and that she is in anyway culpable. I cannot STAND her face, her voice, or anything about her. She brings out the bitch in me big time. I did yoga and lifted a few weights to avoid the Porscha getting a Porche scene. Oh wow, more gifts thrown at kids that have done nothing to deserve them. Yay?

I thought both Erika and Dorit looked spectacular without makeup. Erika has a ruddy complexion like me (or rosacea) but otherwise she looked amazing. I thoroughly enjoy women stripping down and letting us see their real faces. I love all the makeup and hair too, but it's great to see the secureness of self to do that (ahem... Lisa Barlow take note).

Can we tie up Text Gate? Kyle's assumption everyone would buy into her nefarious ways hit a wall. She can't handle being held accountable. The end.

[pvandal]

My favorite:

Jennifer to masseuse: This is the calm before the storm. The quiet period before the shouting starts.

Masseuse: Aw, don't say that.

Later, the masseuse to other masseuse: That woman was right. She said it was gonna change in a minute.

Edited Wednesday at 07:22 PM by pvandal

[twilightzone]

1 hour ago, ladle1 said:

In the matter of Kyle v. Dorit, I guess I'm Team Dorit - though, I also loathe Dorit, so it's hard to get too worked up either way. 

I am Team NEITHER.  I am so sick of hearing about their feud.  It's Groundhog Day.  Every week, it's the same fighting between the 2 of them.  YAWN.  I question how much of it is elevated for the sake of a storyline - as if HW's aren't notorious for doing this.  It has been long rumored that Dorit was on the chopping block.

I'd much rather see more camera time with Garcelle, Sutton, Jen T, who make it light and fun. And they need to give Boz a better edited - not just portrayed her as Dorit's side kick.

 

[Mar]

Why is it now considered acceptable for a woman to say to a man,”We’re  in heat” and it’s considered funny? Imagine a woman getting ready to provide a service to a group of men, and one of the men says that. 

[twilightzone]

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Edited Wednesday at 09:07 PM by twilightzone

[Natalie68]

18 minutes ago, Mar said:

Why is it now considered acceptable for a woman to say to a man,”We’re  in heat” and it’s considered funny? Imagine a woman getting ready to provide a service to a group of men, and one of the men says that. 

It isn't and grosses me out

[Surrealist]

I'm about halfway through watching the episode, and Jennifer cracks me up. The way she laughed when Boz mentioned serenity, and then told her masseuse that there will be shouting. 😂

Although she's on the show because she's Sutton's friend, I feel as if she sort of functions as a Greek chorus type (and even Boz, at an extent) in the manner of Bethenny Frankel on RHONY.

[Mar]

What an incredibly annoying episode with incredibly annoying behavior from every woman, except………..Erika

Hell has frozen over

20 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I thought they gave up on this sisterhood bullshit?

Three words I’m tired of hearing on this show: texts, jokes, memes. 

I think you mean mims 😉

[Mar]

19 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Haven't gotten to that scene yet, but not surprised. Most adults try not to cry over every little thing. Kyle is like the opposite. I think she believes tears = victim.

This reminds me of that episode a few years ago when the Tom Girardi situation broke and Erika was in the hot seat. She met Kyle outdoors somewhere for a talk, and had deliberately, I think, not worn waterproof mascara. The black was running down her cheeks as the tears flowed. She was trying to garner sympathy, and make people believe she was a victim.

[Cosmocrush]

4 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Giving Porsha a Porsche. That is what every 16 year old needs.

Heh, agree.  But this is Beverly Hills and I'm sure it is not unusual for a teenager to be gifted a luxury car.   At least it was an SUV and not a fast little sportscar.  

[Cosmocrush]

6 hours ago, snarts said:

Kyle's spent years demanding honesty & truth from her castmates. Yet she refuses to share her own & somehow expects others to respect her privacy. Why cant Sutton talk about the supposed infidelity or Garcelle mention her relationship with Morgan? It's like she thinks there's a different set of rules applying to her. She's fucking exhausting and I LOVE that Boz sees her for who she is & is emboldening others to do the same. 

IMHO Kyle more than deserves this comeuppance, it's years overdue. (Oh, and it appears show insiders have a similar opinion)

I don't disagree but why this issue?  I find all their fuss over a dumbass text that Kyle herself volunteered boring as hell.  No one thinks Kyle is up to something with PK.  Dorit needs spend less time looking for something to fight with Kyle about a start talking to her children about why Dad and his stuff have disappeared from their home. 

[Feline Goddess]

Giving Portia a Porsche was a cute play on words. And remember, a car of that price point for a wealthy family is like a Chevy is to a middle-class one. None of their kids act like entitled brats, so I doubt this is going to impact Portia in a negative way. 

I think Dorit looks the best of the women without make-up. Erika has the best make-up artists in the group. 

No matter what Kyle is trying to convey, there's an appearance of impropriety  with her continuing to communicate with PK. I do believe she's taken the opportunity to gossip with him about Dorit. Something she wouldn't like if Dorit and Mauricio were having the same type of relationship. 

Jennifer is amused by the shenanigans of this friendship circle. Boz is not just listening to Dorit, she's witnessing things with her own eyes and forming an opinion. Garcelle & Sutton flip-flop but that could be because they're provided additional information - and there's nothing wrong with changing a stance based on that. 

 

[FlyingEgret]

Anyone get a good look at Kyle's phone when she re-shared the Texas? She said the previous text from PK was in April and the OMG text was when the separation was announced (May??); her insinuation that their interaction is rare was not proven as the range could be anywhere from a day to 8 weeks

Might as well go full Meghan King PI if we have to be subjected to this idiotic storyline...

[ladle1]

3 hours ago, twilightzone said:

I am Team NEITHER.  I am so sick of hearing about their feud.  It's Groundhog Day.  Every week, it's the same fighting between the 2 of them.  YAWN.

Oh, that's an option? Oh yes, that! Definitely that. 

[Surrealist]

2 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Heh, agree.  But this is Beverly Hills and I'm sure it is not unusual for a teenager to be gifted a luxury car.   At least it was an SUV and not a fast little sportscar.  

Right. When I saw that it is an SUV, I wasn't bothered by it. 

Initially, I thought they gave her a Roadster (I think that's the name), and that would be too much car for a newly licensed 16-year-old. 

Also, I wanted to add that I really loved Dorit's poofy black top in her THs. It looks fabulous on her.

 

Edited Yest. at 12:32 AM by Surrealist

[bravofan27]

I don't think Kyle likes Dorit at all. I think PK has told her stories about Dorit and she has sympathized. I also think PK and Mauricio are friends and Kyle wants to be close to anyone Mauricio is close too. 

PK seems to have iced Dorit out for whatever reason and pretty much abandoned her and the kids. Mauricio doesn't seem to have any issues about being around Kyle-- they have a totally different relationship and are different people. Kyle started having children right out of high school, had a family trying to make it in Hollywood, a stage mom, and a notoriously difficult relationship with her family-- she doesn't seem to have a good relationship with either of her sisters, now or ever, Kim's health is getting worse, no one talking about it (LVP would DEFINITELY have brought it up!)

[Wicked]

Watching now, still do NOT see what the issue is with this stupid text message.  Can we please move on?????

[Pattycake2]

I am totally enjoying Kyle being in the hot seat even if it means hearing Dorit nonstop. The trade off is well worth it.  I think I may have just cackled to myself.

[tvfanatic13]

I loved the driver laughing every time Jennifer said “mims”. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

12 hours ago, ladle1 said:

Almost all of this is Kyle's own doing. 

We've never seen a Kyle on RHOBH who wasn't buffered by allies, so I for one am interested to see how this unfolds.

Yes!  We have been waiting years for Kyle to get some of her own medicine- and it's finally happening!  The editors are having a field day cueing up tape that contradicts everything Kyle is claiming.  It was great seeing Sutton describe Kyle's hypocrisy.  Just like the "open and honest" last season, when she wasn't open about anything going on.  And now she is running out of a scene, which she has scolded others for doing for years.  (And, I read she didn't film the week following that outburst.)

[pasdetrois]

19 hours ago, nexxie said:

How very Lord of the Flies! Time to defeat Kyle, the producer who has always managed the storyline.

Dorit cleverly "apologizes" to Garcelle to make sure she'll be on her side later. Sutton is already sufficiently miffed. Jennifer is good for the wide-eyed audience look. Boz is a bot. That leaves Erika, who refuses to play her assigned part.

Could they please knock Dorit off the cliff already?!

The most interesting thing is that production is allowing the perceived takedown to play out. I don't think they will get rid of Kyle - they're just desperate for new storylines. The cast is falling into line. The loss of production protection is probably driving Kyle into a frenzy behind the scenes - she's obsessive about slights.

I'm going to be watching the news to see how a recent court ruling affects reality TV, because the ruling on another show is that the cast are employees (not independent contr4actors). Could have wide-ranging affect on schedule, salaries, on-set behaviors...

Edited Yest. at 12:49 PM by pasdetrois

[lemoncake]

13 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

don't think Kyle likes Dorit at all. I think PK has told her stories about Dorit and she has sympathized. I also think PK and Mauricio are friends and Kyle wants to be close to anyone Mauricio is close too. 

This. I think PK has been bitching and crying on Mau and Kyle's shoulders about Dorit for a long time. 

 

What I dont understand is how Kyle thought that text couldn't be misconstrued. Is she just dumb? Every other woman got the implication immediately. Why not just show the last couple of mims (lol Jen) and delete anything that could taken the wrong way. 

[AnnMarie17]

28 minutes ago, lemoncake said:

What I dont understand is how Kyle thought that text couldn't be misconstrued. Is she just dumb? Every other woman got the implication immediately. Why not just show the last couple of mims (lol Jen) and delete anything that could taken the wrong way. 

Because Kyle is weapons-grade stupid.

[Mr. Miner]

15 minutes ago, AnnMarie17 said:

Because Kyle is weapons-grade stupid.

Can’t argue with that. I actually thought Dorit’s insufferable ass was let go last season. To have her as such a main character this season is a nightmare. I’ve loathed her since her first episode. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[ZettaK]

22 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

That’s exactly it. Kyle wasn’t above the drama or ashamed of her behavior when she bullied Lisa Vanderpump and Denise Richards off the show. Now it’s suddenly the end of the world when she has to address some texts? 

Lisa Vanderpump leaked the dog story to her friends in the gossip media (her connections are well known), and she was in hot water with all the women. She left because she had her own successful show (Vanderpump Rules), and she was offered another two shows on Bravo which aired relatively soon after- she wouldn't be questioned by anybody on those. Disclaimer: I liked that she leaked the story, and exposed Dorit for the horrible person that she is.

Denise Richards made a fundamental HW mistake. She refused to discuss her (personal) life, or really she shared what she chose to (like paying for her husband's sexual massages, for example), and she thought that by saying "Bravo Bravo Bravo" would ruin the footage, and it would be discarded, but producers asked her to return to the restaurant in Rome after she left. I'm sure she was not in great terms with the Bravo team after that, or them with her. 

Edited Yest. at 02:51 PM by ZettaK

[hoodooznoodooz]

On 1/22/2025 at 9:07 AM, SweetieDarling said:

The weird thing is, Kyle was the one who brought up the fact that she and PK were still texting. She had to know it would get back to Dorit and cause a stir. The fact that, when confronted, she became defensive, and rather than showing meme and joke text exchanges, she chose to share a text that contradicts that, leads me to believe she has a specific agenda, possibly to get Dorit off the show.

The question remains why? Dorit has been a loyal minion. Is it because Dorit shared that she felt manipulated by Kyle's pre-reunion text? DID something happen between Mau and Dorit? Or did someone get in Kyle's ear about that hug (why else would she have that video in her phone)?

This post is delicious!

I love your analysis. I feel as if sometimes Kyle hopes to be clever and tries to emulate LVP, playing chess with Dorit. But most of the time, she’s not that clever. And her emotions trip her up. 
 

Dorit and Mauricio would make a very attractive couple.

Kyle and PK?

My inner mean girl hopes that Kyle is suspicious of Dorit’s relationship with Mauricio.

[hoodooznoodooz]

21 hours ago, ladle1 said:

Another possibility is that Kyle is a fucking idiot.

I just like the way that looks.

 

 

And, also: yes.

[Rorysmom]

16 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

I don't think Kyle likes Dorit at all. I think PK has told her stories about Dorit and she has sympathized. I also think PK and Mauricio are friends and Kyle wants to be close to anyone Mauricio is close too. 

PK seems to have iced Dorit out for whatever reason and pretty much abandoned her and the kids. Mauricio doesn't seem to have any issues about being around Kyle-- they have a totally different relationship and are different people. Kyle started having children right out of high school, had a family trying to make it in Hollywood, a stage mom, and a notoriously difficult relationship with her family-- she doesn't seem to have a good relationship with either of her sisters, now or ever, Kim's health is getting worse, no one talking about it (LVP would DEFINITELY have brought it up!)

Yep. Kyle feels closer to PK because of Mauricio. Kyle was telling the truth when she said she and Dorit weren't close, close. But she was also telling the truth when she said she loves Dorit and the family. Kyle just prioritizes PK. Dorit knows that, and that's why she shared PK's behavior and her desire to know how deep their communication goes. Instead of acting outraged, all she had to do was share the text. Dassit. Let's see how this unfolds.

Boz, your party and style are fantastic. Rock on!

 

 

[heatherchandler]

Dorit telling Erika that she’s smart!  Erika loved that.  
 

Then Erika telling Kyle that she’s smart.  Kyle loved that.
 

Nooo, neither woman is smart.  They are both incredibly dumb.

[janiema]

39 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

Dorit telling Erika that she’s smart!  Erika loved that.  
 

Then Erika telling Kyle that she’s smart.  Kyle loved that.
 

Nooo, neither woman is smart.  They are both incredibly dumb.

I don’t like Erika but I think she is smart.

[ladle1]

On 1/22/2025 at 3:57 PM, Mar said:

Why is it now considered acceptable for a woman to say to a man,”We’re  in heat” and it’s considered funny? Imagine a woman getting ready to provide a service to a group of men, and one of the men says that. 

It's really not okay. It's not funny or cute. I'm a RHW superfan, but the casual sexual harassment of service workers has to be my least favorite thing about these shows. 

It actually pisses me off. 

Like, how have we not moved past this?! 

[dmeets]

3 hours ago, janiema said:

I don’t like Erika but I think she is smart.

I think she can be shrewd and has a sharp memory until it's convenient not to, but I'm reluctant to consider anyone smart who replies to learning a villa was built over 700 years ago (the Spain trip last year) with "wow -- Jesus times!"

[ladle1]

7 hours ago, lemoncake said:

What I dont understand is how Kyle thought that text couldn't be misconstrued. Is she just dumb? Every other woman got the implication immediately. Why not just show the last couple of mims (lol Jen) and delete anything that could taken the wrong way. 

This is what I'm saying! "Is Kyle Richards actually that dumb?" really is the $64,000 question here. Because here are the options:

DOOR #1: Yes, she's that dumb. And maybe that's the answer! But, while I'm not saying Kyle Richards is a nuclear physicist, she never struck me as particularly dumb either, especially on a social level. She's basically run this show for a long time. On the other hand, maybe "dumb" isn't the right word. Perhaps, growing up the way she did, she missed out on learning some of the social cues/social norms the rest of us did -- which is why she apparently thinks it's an okay practice to just ghost her friends for months when she's upset with them. 

DOOR #2: No, she's not that dumb, but she showed it to fuel drama and maintain her spot on the show (and, if that's the case, she's a better actress than I had realized! *golf clap*)

DOOR #3: She does realize it's a damning text, but as soon as the matter of texas came up she worried PK might leak this one, and wanted to get in front of it.....  

....But that doesn't even make sense, because she is the one who brought up PK's texas to Garcelle in the first place. Why even mention that?? 

I am befuddled.

[Talented Tenth]

On 1/22/2025 at 9:23 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

this just feels so weird and jarring that its a take down Kyle season cause we never had one before .. alliances are shifting and Kyle doesn't have a lap dog this season to protect her and shift accountability

There were two Kyle takedown seasons: the one when Lisa Vanderpump told Brandi to take the tabloids with the Mauricio rumors and the one when the group was saying Kyle and Teddi were in couples therapy.  That season, Kyle flipped the attention to Denise and Brandi.

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, ladle1 said:

...But that doesn't even make sense, because she is the one who brought up PK's texas to Garcelle in the first place. Why even mention that?? 

Kyle brought up the texas because she thought it was harmless since it was mostly mims back and forth.

[ladle1]

1 minute ago, RealHousewife said:

Kyle brought up the texas because she thought it was harmless since it was mostly mims back and forth.

But the texas were not just mims! 

[bravofan27]

I think ALL these ladies have been in acting classes, model schools, training on presentation, voice coaching, manners school, all that. I think that makes it seem like they are more intelligent than they are because they have been coached and are coachable.

Dorit desperately wants to be friends with Kyle, and Erica seems to really not want them to be friends. Hopefully Dorit doesn't burn her bridge with Boz, because that is the only person that likes her. 

 

[Natalie68]

1 hour ago, ladle1 said:

This is what I'm saying! "Is Kyle Richards actually that dumb?" really is the $64,000 question here. Because here are the options:

DOOR #1: Yes, she's that dumb. And maybe that's the answer! But, while I'm not saying Kyle Richards is a nuclear physicist, she never struck me as particularly dumb either, especially on a social level. She's basically run this show for a long time. On the other hand, maybe "dumb" isn't the right word. Perhaps, growing up the way she did, she missed out on learning some of the social cues/social norms the rest of us did -- which is why she apparently thinks it's an okay practice to just ghost her friends for months when she's upset with them. 

DOOR #2: No, she's not that dumb, but she showed it to fuel drama and maintain her spot on the show (and, if that's the case, she's a better actress than I had realized! *golf clap*)

DOOR #3: She does realize it's a damning text, but as soon as the matter of texas came up she worried PK might leak this one, and wanted to get in front of it.....  

....But that doesn't even make sense, because she is the one who brought up PK's texas to Garcelle in the first place. Why even mention that?? 

I am befuddled.

I pick door 1 because she is dumb. She is also a horrid friend and sister.  So a mean, dumb woman.

I also pick door 3 because she knows the intent behind her texts to PK.  Get the goods on Mo AND Dorit.  She wants to make Dorit pay for not being subservient and Mo because she is pissed he effortlessly moved on.

37 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Kyle brought up the texas because she thought it was harmless since it was mostly mims back and forth.

This IS how I will be saying this now.

[pasdetrois]

A blind gossip site hints that production created the texts

[njbchlover]

First off, I think this whole continuous discussion/argument about some text messages is frigging ridiculous.  The fact that Kyle and PK communicated in the past, when they were all "couple friends" is only an issue with Dorit now that she and PK are separated - apparently it never bothered her before, or I'm sure we would have heard about it.  And, it must not have bothered Mauricio either, because I think that Mau would have said something to PK to knock it off.  

To be honest, I don't know how I would feel if my husband and one of my close friends were sharing text message jokes and  laughs without me, and my marriage is very solid and my friends trustworthy.  The most I have ever texted with any of my friend's husbands (without also including my friend) is a Happy Birthday text. 

The fact that Kyle texted PK very soon after the separation news, and then, shared that text with some of the group months later, makes me think that she thought it was all innocent and in the spirit of friendship, because I believe at the time that Dorit and PK's separation was announced, Kyle and Dorit weren't really speaking to each other at all.

I also think that PK sending "mims" and Kyle responding with laughing emojis, is not necessarily horrible, but it's also not a good thing, either.  By continuing to respond to PK, even with an emoji, continued their "friendship", even if it was just a text friendship at this point.  Kyle basically broke girl code by continuing to respond to PK's text messages.  Again - see above - why is it okay for PK to send any kind of text to another woman, even if that woman is one of his good friends' wives?  But, I also think that Kyle is, for the most part, the person that likes to have the last word (or emoji, in this case).

I would still like to know EXACTLY how often PK and Kyle would share memes and emojis through text messages.  Once a day?  Once a week?  Once a month?  That also comes into play into how big or small of a deal this actually is.  Once a day or once a week - that's too much.  Once a month or so, just seems less egregious.  

So, we now have this season's "pantygate"....and it's fucking boring!!!  

All of this should not be constantly brought up by the other ladies in the group, but that is the way of these shows now.  Dorit and Kyle should have had a conversation without the other ladies chiming in and throwing out their questions and opinions on the matter.  Especially Boz, who has been here for a hot minute and is all of a sudden, Dorit's defender.  I'm not loving Boz because I don't like when a new housewife comes in so hot and tries too hard to insert herself into the pre-existing drama.

I didn't like that Kyle left Boz's house in tears, but she does seem to fly the coop when she's under pressure.  She did the same thing in Amsterdam and at other filmed events.  She is hypocritical at times, but I also feel that she is very insecure and doesn't want to be confronted on her shit, but is okay confronting someone else on theirs.  She has more courage being the confronter than the one being confronted.

Finally, as much as I dislike Erika, she gained some points with me this episode.  She is being honest and not picking sides in this matter and I give her credit for that.  I actually didn't mind her this episode.

 

 

[RealHousewife]

3 hours ago, ladle1 said:

This is what I'm saying! "Is Kyle Richards actually that dumb?" really is the $64,000 question here. Because here are the options:

DOOR #1: Yes, she's that dumb. And maybe that's the answer! But, while I'm not saying Kyle Richards is a nuclear physicist, she never struck me as particularly dumb either, especially on a social level. She's basically run this show for a long time. On the other hand, maybe "dumb" isn't the right word. Perhaps, growing up the way she did, she missed out on learning some of the social cues/social norms the rest of us did -- which is why she apparently thinks it's an okay practice to just ghost her friends for months when she's upset with them. 

DOOR #2: No, she's not that dumb, but she showed it to fuel drama and maintain her spot on the show (and, if that's the case, she's a better actress than I had realized! *golf clap*)

DOOR #3: She does realize it's a damning text, but as soon as the matter of texas came up she worried PK might leak this one, and wanted to get in front of it.....  

....But that doesn't even make sense, because she is the one who brought up PK's texas to Garcelle in the first place. Why even mention that?? 

I am befuddled.

I wouldn't group Kyle with people like Teresa Guidice or Rachel Leviss. She doesn't seem slow to grasp information, but I wouldn't say she's the smartest either. Even Erika has better grammar, a better memory, and intellectual curiosity. 

I wonder if part of the ghosting thing is just a matter of Kyle not speaking to coworkers until she has to work with them again. I know with her sisters it's different, but I don't know if she would bother mending things with some of these women if she didn't have to. 

In all seriousness, maybe Kyle forgot she was being filmed? Or maybe she thought it made PK look kind of sus and surely she just responds to PK, because he gets mad of course. Who knows. I'm team Dorit with just about all their issues, but maybe I'm naive because I actually do believe that Kyle never meant any harm or disrespect with the communication. I don't love the brother-sister argument when it's used regarding people who met way later in life. I guess I've heard that used too many times by people who've either hooked up or would hook up. But I get what Kyle means. She sees PK as one of the girls. 

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45 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I wouldn't group Kyle with people like Teresa Guidice or Rachel Leviss. She doesn't seem slow to grasp information, but I wouldn't say she's the smartest either. Even Erika has better grammar, a better memory, and intellectual curiosity. 

I wonder if part of the ghosting thing is just a matter of Kyle not speaking to coworkers until she has to work with them again. I know with her sisters it's different, but I don't know if she would bother mending things with some of these women if she didn't have to. 

In all seriousness, maybe Kyle forgot she was being filmed? Or maybe she thought it made PK look kind of sus and surely she just responds to PK, because he gets mad of course. Who knows. I'm team Dorit with just about all their issues, but maybe I'm naive because I actually do believe that Kyle never meant any harm or disrespect with the communication. I don't love the brother-sister argument when it's used regarding people who met way later in life. I guess I've heard that used too many times by people who've either hooked up or would hook up. But I get what Kyle means. She sees PK as one of the girls. 

Haven't we all said that PK acted like he was one of the housewives??  🤣

[Pi237]

One comment she made the seemed sketchy was, "he gets mad if you don't reply/send a laughing emoji." That's weird. That's sending her a joke and then texting some version of - "why aren't you responding?!".  To me, that over steps a light, friendship type communication.  Might seem small, but to me, its putting demands on someone, an expectation, that isn't appropriate for a friend of your wife. 

Also, saying- I keep your secrets and always will, creates an intimacy that's also inappropriate for a casual, non serious 'friendship'