S19.14: The Truth Will Set You Free

[RoxiP]

Christine doesn't bother me lately - yes she is over the top and yes her taste in clothes is questionable but I wish her the best and truly hope she is happy.  

Meri has the most personality of all the wives these days - more Meri!  And how did she make all these great friends?  (Speaking of which Janelle was almost non-existent these days except for her use of the stain pen.  I did like seeing her children and Christine's children together and how well that relate among themselves and their mothers.)

If Robyn wasn't such a manipulative person I could almost feel sorry for her.  I agree - eggshells - no wonder the daughters always look stressed.  If Robyn left Kody I think he would be dangerous.

[Denize]

3 hours ago, General Days said:

*They weren't close friends. She said she met them while planning Ysabel's high school graduation party.

and they probably "met" online during Covid shutdowns

Edited December 18 by Denize

[islandgal140]

23 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Kody, NO ONE is eyeing Robyn and trying to steal her away.  Quit trying to make fetch happen.

 

Petty theft at best!

[MamaMax]

I don't have the patience to try to pin down the timeline, but I wondered:

Was it possible that 'RoraandBreanana were already attending their new church (which is neither UAB nor LDS) and everyone was so tentative because they knew Koe-Dee might flip out?  My ears perked up when Koe-Dee when right to "cult."  What made him go there? Is he saying their OLD church was a cult? Or that he suspected the girls were interested in a specific church that HE has deemed a cult? 

Its super interesting to me that he is now having some sort of church-based phobia.  IMO, he needs to lay blame for his failures first on the women, but now on the church that somehow traumatized him. He is pro-level blame-shifting.

But also - is he mad because he sees that his dad and the AUB sold him a bill of goods when they said he could be the priesthood holder and have his own planet and that the women would silently, gratefully take whatever crumbs he threw them?  Cuz the thing is - they might have, if he had never pushed them all into the spotlight. It was the show, and the money it brought, that showed the women what life without the AUB and Koe-Dee could be.  He was definitely the instrument of his own destruction.  And that's why their church leaders didn't approve of the show. They knew it already - how you gonna keep them down on the farm (or compound) after they've seen Paree? 

[RoxiP]

I think Kody is such a megalomaniac that he decided that he WAS the church and that the only person whom all of his wives and children needed to learn theology from was him.  That way he could twist it to meet his own requirements and for some reason he forgot that his children were becoming adults and had minds of their own (and then ultimately so did their mothers).  The only cult I see in Flagstaff has flowing blonde ringlets hiding his quickly receding hairline.

[Granny58]

4 hours ago, MamaMax said:

But also - is he mad because he sees that his dad and the AUB sold him a bill of goods when they said he could be the priesthood holder and have his own planet and that the women would silently, gratefully take whatever crumbs he threw them? 

I believe it is mostly this.  

[OlderThanDirt]

His spiritual inspiration is definitely more TLC than AUB.

[laurakaye]

On 12/18/2024 at 9:13 AM, RoxiP said:

If Robyn wasn't such a manipulative person I could almost feel sorry for her.  I agree - eggshells - no wonder the daughters always look stressed.  If Robyn left Kody I think he would be dangerous.

He's already unhinged.  He talks about Robyn like she's his sun, moon and stars.  I have to wonder if the intensity of his ceaseless, crazy-eyed adoration makes her uncomfortable.  He's so paranoid that he's been left by three other women, it must make him crazy to think that she would leave him too so he treats her as one of his precious, priceless art pieces (lolz).  That kind of worship - even though it's what she wanted initially - might be too much for her to handle, now that she can no longer "dilute" Kody by telling him to go visit someone else for a few hours.   

However - this was the Dark Queen's plan.  Now she's won and must live forevermore with the Court Jester in her face 24/7.  I do not feel bad for her.

21 hours ago, RoxiP said:

I think Kody is such a megalomaniac that he decided that he WAS the church and that the only person whom all of his wives and children needed to learn theology from was him.

He told Robyn on their attic date that he would have a hard time listening to a sermon if he couldn't stand up and contradict the pastor.  Can you imagine Kody in a pew, scribbling notes on his church bulletin like a maniac, red-faced, sweaty ringlets stuck to his head, spontaneously jumping up to give his interpretation of the sermon to a stunned congregation while Robyn slinks down in her seat and Aurora and Brianna sneak out the back door?

Actually, if we have to be subjected to Kody and Robyn for another season, this is exactly what I want to see.  

Edited December 19 by laurakaye

[AZChristian]

18 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Can you imagine Kody in a pew, scribbling notes on his church bulletin like a maniac, red-faced, sweaty ringlets stuck to his head, spontaneously jumping up to give his interpretation of the sermon to a stunned congregation . . .

I think Robyn would be fine with that, as long as he allows her to re-run her "cookie" sermon when he was done speaking.

[Elizzikra]

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I have to wonder if the intensity of his ceaseless, crazy-eyed adoration makes her uncomfortable.  

It creeps the shit out of me.

[Natalie68]

Something popped up in a Christine talking head that made me go hmmm about her relationship with David.  I think it had to do with the taco dinner.  She said David is like Mykelti (maybe in his snark?), she married her daughter.  It didn't look like she enjoyed that commonality.

[EastCoast4Life]

On 12/17/2024 at 12:10 PM, mytmo said:

So we're back at the Anne Frank room where the Brown's wax nostalgic.

Between that and the Mexican restaurant where nothing good ever happens, it's like the only two restaurants in the greater Flagstaff area that will let them film. 

Edited December 20 by EastCoast4Life

[AZChristian]

3 hours ago, EastCoast4Life said:

Between that and the Mexican restaurant where nothing good ever happens, it's like the only two restaurants in the greater Flagstaff area that will let them film. 

Flagstaff has lots of tourists year-round.  I doubt there are many restaurants  there that need/want the disruption that filming causes.

[Dibs]

Christine didn't have this or that with Kody;  Christine couldn't do that or this with Kody.  Kody, Kody, Kody!  How long before David realizes she's still OBSESSED with Kody?  It feels like that's all this relationship is about: Kody.  How long before we hear that David ***** better than Kody, too?  I would be insulted and alarmed if my fiance couldn't shut up about the ex for two minutes.

[Denize]

4 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Flagstaff has lots of tourists year-round.  I doubt there are many restaurants  there that need/want the disruption that filming causes.

Or they've hosted the Browns before and said never again!

[Gramto6]

3 hours ago, Dibs said:

Christine didn't have this or that with Kody;  Christine couldn't do that or this with Kody.  Kody, Kody, Kody!  How long before David realizes she's still OBSESSED with Kody?  It feels like that's all this relationship is about: Kody.  How long before we hear that David ***** better than Kody, too?  I would be insulted and alarmed if my fiance couldn't shut up about the ex for two minutes.

Yes, but again, this could be production telling her to make all these comments just to stir the pot and try to get some flare ups from Kody.

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 12/16/2024 at 3:52 PM, Elizzikra said:

Imagine his rage if they had held him down and forcibly cut it.

When I was a kid, I used to watch professional wrestling.  Every once in a while, they had a match where the loser would get his long locks shorn.  When I read your comment, a scene passed through my head of Kody in a cage match against his ex-wives, his hair being cut if (when) he loses!  Now, THAT might draw some life back into this series. 🤣

[Dibs]

10 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

Yes, but again, this could be production telling her to make all these comments just to stir the pot and try to get some flare ups from Kody.

EXCEPT that she does it on her SM, too, with all her stupid nacho and sports car "Take that, Kody!" pictures.  So EVERYTHING Kody or Robyn says in THs is them speaking, but Christine is being forced to say certain things?  Got it!

[MMEButterfly]

On 12/20/2024 at 8:59 PM, Dibs said:

Christine didn't have this or that with Kody;  Christine couldn't do that or this with Kody.  Kody, Kody, Kody!  How long before David realizes she's still OBSESSED with Kody?  It feels like that's all this relationship is about: Kody.  How long before we hear that David ***** better than Kody, too?  I would be insulted and alarmed if my fiance couldn't shut up about the ex for two minutes.

In part this could be because the show is about her marriage to Kody. 

[Orcinus orca]

 

In part this could be because the show is about her marriage to Kody. 

For the show, it is possible.  But even her SM postings are about him.  If she's so over-the-moon happy you would think that would be what she is posting about.

[Jeanne222]

What exactly is Tony's beef with Christine?

I can't believe this group are still on tv!  Whoda thought!

[Polliwollidoodle]

Hi - I was coming here to comment because QUITE a while ago ( years? who knows) comments were made about Robyn's  uber cluttered abode and I didn't know what you all were talking about.

Well, until this episode when she and Kody are leaving the house to go on their date. It showed the kitchen in the background and it was a visual assault in my opinion. How cluttered and just stuff all over the place was it? It was so so so so cluttered and messy looking that I immediately remembered all the discussion about the housekeeping in that house.

[Elizzikra]

11 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

For the show, it is possible.  But even her SM postings are about him.  If she's so over-the-moon happy you would think that would be what she is posting about.

 I figure her social media (really all of theirs) are all part of the marketing for the show. She knows that most of her followers are following as watchers of the show, so that's what she posts about (mostly). The social media and the show feed each other.

It wouldn't surprise me if Christine (and the others) had private social media that they use the way the rest of us use our social media - to share kid updates, cute pet photos and recipes.

[ginger90]

 

It wouldn't surprise me if Christine (and the others) had private social media

You would be correct! 

[Dibs]

 

In part this could be because the show is about her marriage to Kody. 

For the third (or more) time...it's not just "on the show."  Her SM is one big "FU, Kody."

[BAForever]

 

You would be correct

Grifters gotta grift. Must be exhausting. 

[Elizzikra]

5 hours ago, BAForever said:

Grifters gotta grift. Must be exhausting. 

It's a full time job.

[General Days]

15 hours ago, Dibs said:

For the third (or more) time...it's not just "on the show."  Her SM is one big "FU, Kody."

 

Second.

[Dibs]

5 minutes ago, General Days said:

 

Second.

Maybe on THIS thread.

[Roslyn]

On 12/22/2024 at 10:22 AM, Jeanne222 said:

What exactly is Tony's beef with Christine?

Christine did not welcome Tony with open arms. When Mykelti set up the "we want to get married after 5 months of dating" conversation on their Hawaii trip Christine did not have a positive reaction. Mykelti saw how Christine reacted when Maddie (only 8ish months older that her) said she was getting married. Also the family didn't even know Maddie was dating Caleb with marriage intentions at the time Maddie told them. Yet Christine squealed and flung herself at Maddie with the news.

Then all the adults had to compare how mature Maddie was and how immature Mykelti was. They were fine with Maddie getting married at her age, but considered Mykelti to be too young. Even Janelle was fired up about how she thought Mykelti was trying to steal the spotlight from Maddie by wanting her wedding to be just weeks after Maddies.

Tony has said (on one of their Patreon live broadcasts) that only Robyn showed a positive reaction to him and Mykelti getting married and so he really only had a relationship with Robyn. Both him and Mykelti do seem to poke at Christine a lot, especially on camera. It does make both him and Mykelti look particularly immature.

[Absolom]

In the defense of the parents, Mykelti did come across on the show at the time of their engagement as immature and flighty.  Tony himself had and still seems to possess a personality that grates on many people.  They're both still quirky at best so not everyone is going to think they're great.

[General Days]

15 hours ago, Dibs said:

Maybe on THIS thread.

 

I just meant in this particular conversation over the past few days.

I never imagined you might respond like that based your complete history of Sister Wives posts, under this user name.

[LilyD]

5 hours ago, Absolom said:

In the defense of the parents, Mykelti did come across on the show at the time of their engagement as immature and flighty.  Tony himself had and still seems to possess a personality that grates on many people.  They're both still quirky at best so not everyone is going to think they're great.

This.
But I also found their behaviour inconsiderate and petty at best. This was Maddie’s moment as a bride and Janelle’s moment as a first time mother of the bride. Let them have the limelight for a while. And Mykelti was stealing the limelight and demanding the same attention.
That’s breaking wedding etiquette in more ways than one. Honestly, I would have been appalled if my sister had done that to me.

Some may argue that such events may clash in huge families. However, at the time there were no reasons to believe that other siblings would be getting married anytime soon, so they could have easily pushed that wedding date back by a few months as suggested. 

[Jeanne222]

Mykelti and Tony have always been a bit much.  They feed off of each other.

It surprises me that so many on social media don't work!  First Tony worked in a bank.  Then he was designing video games.  Now I guess he just appears in Christine's kitchen now and then!

We used to ask 'what does the nanny do'.  Now I ask what does Tony do'!  Lol

[BAForever]

My thoughts on Mykelti usually go back to her insisting on the cringe-worthy family goodbye to Christine from Kody and Robyn and their emotionally constipated older daughters. I am certain it was producer-driven, but Mykelti played her part. I was embarrassed for all of them.

She and Tony do seem to be good parents, a bit granola, but to each their own. 

I guess I truly like the  Brown kids like Logan, Hunter, Gabe and Aspyn who have moved away from this mess and are living quiet and hopefully happy lives away from the ridiculous mess of their parents' public lives.

Edited Yest. at 01:24 PM by BAForever

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 12/22/2024 at 4:20 PM, Polliwollidoodle said:

Hi - I was coming here to comment because QUITE a while ago ( years? who knows) comments were made about Robyn's  uber cluttered abode and I didn't know what you all were talking about.

Well, until this episode when she and Kody are leaving the house to go on their date. It showed the kitchen in the background and it was a visual assault in my opinion. How cluttered and just stuff all over the place was it? It was so so so so cluttered and messy looking that I immediately remembered all the discussion about the housekeeping in that house.

We can all cross off housekeeping under the list of "What Does the Nanny Do?"  😂