Season 01

[Armchair Critic]

I cannot stand Chock.

[BuckeyeLou]

With the wind & waves on the Yacht trip, why didnt the crew bring Joan a blanket?!  It did not really look very fun.  

[Stats Queen]

8 minutes ago, BuckeyeLou said:

With the wind & waves on the Yacht trip, why didnt the crew bring Joan a blanket?!  It did not really look very fun.  

Man what an awkward, quiet date.

I feel like they’re setting Mark up to be the Golden Bachelor.

[Armchair Critic]

I kept telling Mark to kiss her. lol

[BuckeyeLou]

Joan finally has a shawl wrapped around herself while they are eating.  Both of them seem more interested in talking about their late spouses than about each other.

[Armchair Critic]

Mark thinks the date went better than it did?

And they are setting him up to be the next Golden Bachelor...

It did seem like he was well liked. I do notice that Chock doesn't seem to have the closeness to the other guys. I still like Guy, he really seems to care about the others.

Edited October 17 by Armchair Critic

[Quickbeam]

I had a Zoom meeting, who went home? 

[Armchair Critic]

5 minutes ago, Quickbeam said:

I had a Zoom meeting, who went home? 

Mark, Keith, Jonathan

[kristen111]

On 10/10/2024 at 12:27 PM, hoodooznoodooz said:

I noticed that, too. But then, I still have to wonder how he managed to clean his clothing when he had cardboard in his shoe. 
 

I liked Pascal more this episode, when he said that he didn’t want to be more aggressive, in a group setting. Finally, I could relate to him. 
 

Jonathan looks good for his age, but I thought CK looked even better and was more charismatic. 

I would not feel comfortable kissing so many different men, with tongue! And, guys, please. If the camera captures tongue action, you need to rein it in.

But I will admit, I am a bit uptight. 

I have to cover my eyes.  Whenever she speaks, her tongue flicks out of her mouth.  It reminds me of those little salamanders that run around in Florida.  I think she made her lips wider.

[LakeGal]

They really have to quit showing the back of Joan's head.  I was so distracted by how bad her hair looked while she was chatting with Trista.  

[funnygirl]

Aww, I liked Keith. He has a great all-around energy. I wouldn't mind seeing him as the Golden Bachelor down the line.

I feel the opposite about Chock. 

I think they're definitely setting Mark up for the next Golden Bachelor. IMO that's been the plan all along. Producers saw leading man potential ever since he was first introduced during Joey's Bachelor season. 

Edited October 17 by funnygirl

[ECM1231]

25 minutes ago, funnygirl said:

I think they're definitely setting Mark up for the next Golden Bachelor. IMO that's been the plan all along. Producers saw leading man potential ever since he was first introduced during Joey's Bachelor season.

I think so, too, and to me he was the best- looking of the men this season. However, I wonder if he's just too quiet to carry the lead. He seems like a sweet man, and was very well -liked by the other men. Surprisingly, Pascal said he was his best friend in the house. I think Guy, also, is very nice and caring. He really teared up when Mark announced he was leaving. 

I honestly don't know who is Joan's final pick, but she seems to have the strongest bond with Chock. I just don't care for Chock,but hopefully Joan will be happy with whomever she chooses.

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Chock’s father is still alive?

[dancingdreamer]

I really  liked Keith, Joan said he reminded  her of John. I felt sure he'd  get a hometown. 

I didn't  see any chemistry  between  Mark and Joan, and like others,  I think he's being  set up to be the next Bachelor. 

Chock, back off. Has he totally  forgotten , that there are other men that would like to chat with her. I think I'd find him too clingy. 

Is Joan really  ready? She mentions  John so much, she still cries  over him. I'm just not sure, any guy could compete with him, will the man she chooses always come second. The F4, I can see her with Chock, and perhaps  Guy, although I haven't  seen  much of him. I've come  to like Pascal, but with Joan? I was watching  him, and I'm nearly 4 years  older than him, I don't  see him with her. 

I don't  know why I'm so invested  in the men, I just really  enjoy  their  friendships. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Chock was behaving at Lucky Strike as if Joan had already chosen him over the other remaining contestants. 
 

Mark was struggling on that yacht. I wonder how much more awkward it would have become without the scavenger hunt.

Joan seems very low-energy. Kind of passive, or on autopilot. Very polite but never animated. 

[nlkm9]

I say Jonathon and Mark for co-bachelors!!!!! That would be so awesome!!

Mark is so good looking but cannot carry a show by himself, I think hes too quiet.

[ECM1231]

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Chock’s father is still alive?

I believe Chock is only 60, although to me he looks older. His dad could conceivably be in his 80s.  

[Doublemint]

Jacki Kennedy would have tied a scarf around her head - but Joanie is no Jacki Kennedy.  Boat and car ride mean wind, so control your hair.

[kristen111]

I don’t know why they picked her.  She’s still grieving.  Is it the long blonde hair, or that shes tall and slim.  To me, she’s wearing clothes that a young woman wears.  I think the long fake hair and sexy gowns are not for her at that age.  Just my opinion.  I’m tall, thin, blonde, but would never wear gowns that scanty, but that’s just me.  Plus, I’m not for surgery on my face.   These men are going Gaga over her.  I think it’s the long hair.  She’s sexy.  That’s all, lol.

[Alexander Pope]

Mark seems like a kind and sweet person but I agree with others that he might not carry the show very well.  Not only is he too quiet, he isn't quick.  He speaks SO SLOWLY--I would drown in my soup having dinner with him.  But I'm a New Yorker, so that may be more my problem.

Chock seems extremely controlling to me and his behavior at the bowling alley was not cool.  Major red flag, and I was not happy with Joan for not noticing.

Edited October 17 by Alexander Pope

[Ilovepie]

1 hour ago, Alexander Pope said:

Mark seems like a kind and sweet person but I agree with others that he might not carry the show very well.  Not only is he too quiet, he isn't quick.  He speaks SO SLOWLY--I would drown in my soup having dinner with him.  But I'm a New Yorker, so that may be more my problem.

Chock seems extremely controlling to me and his behavior at the bowling alley was not cool.  Major red flag, and I was not happy with Joan for not noticing.

THIS. I think Mark would be terrible as the Golden Bachelor! He looks great, but there's no "THERE" there, if you know what I mean. Also, he's not even sixty yet - how exactly is that "golden"?????

I think Joan walking Jonathan out makes him look more like a potential choice for the next Golden Bachelor - he is charismatic and good looking. But I think Joan saw that pic of his young kids and he immediately he moved into the "no" category. She has grandkids - he has young KIDS! I don't know that I could watch months of that neck tattoo.......

Chock is so gross. He talks like he has this in the bag. I find his behavior slick and overbearing. Her body language when he was breathing down her neck asking inappropriate questions on a group date with four other guys - just yuck! And all the other guys are crying and consoling Mark and Chock could not control his glee that someone else was leaving. I loathe him but I still feel like he's in first place right now.

Despite the news about Guy, I still really like him. At this point my top two are Guy and Jordan. I am baffled by her continuing to pick Pascal. Although he's been more low key and likeable the last couple episodes (look at him steaming his own shirt!) I just don't see them together. But even he would be better that that smarmy, cocky used car salesman vibe Chock......

Edited October 17 by Ilovepie

[Madding crowd]

Add me in to those who don’t like Chock at all. I don’t find him attractive or interesting and he is certainly behaving like he has it in the bag. I also feel like Joan isn’t ready for a relationship: she needs more time. I’m not sure she is right for this show in terms of personality either. 

[tennisgurl]

The main lesson I have gotten from this show is that older men really need more friends. As much as this show is about "finding another chance at love" it feels like what they really needed was a sense of community, much like in Golden Bachelor. Its hard to make friends as an adult but it seems like its even harder for men, they generally don't have as many spaces where they can really get to know each other, so its great to see so many of them really bonding and getting to work out a lot of loss that they have experienced together. 

I guess the real Golden Bachelorette was the friends we made along the way. 

Joan is so low energy, I think she's a nice person and is lovely (even with the obvious plastic surgery) but I am still not sure she's totally on board. I guess its part of the point that she talks about her deceased husband a lot and still cries a lot, but I am still not sure she is totally ready for this. 

Mark really blew it on that date, it was hard to witness that much awkward silence. Joan is already pretty quiet, the last thing she needed was someone who couldn't bring any energy to the party. He really has been out of the dating game for a long time if he thought he nailed that date. 

Chok seems to think he has this in the bag, I don't love how smug he is. 

[Ilovepie]

1 hour ago, tennisgurl said:

The main lesson I have gotten from this show is that older men really need more friends. As much as this show is about "finding another chance at love" it feels like what they really needed was a sense of community, much like in Golden Bachelor. Its hard to make friends as an adult but it seems like its even harder for men, they generally don't have as many spaces where they can really get to know each other, so its great to see so many of them really bonding and getting to work out a lot of loss that they have experienced together. 

This is so true!!! Mr. Ilovepie is 54 years old and he rarely talks to any of his old friends, let alone gets together with them. It's hard to witness. I do think women make more of an effort than men, although next week I am going away together with my college roommates for the first time in decades (we all graduated 1993/1994).

Mark seemed more affected at having to leave the mansion than having to be parted from Joan, and Charles was equally saddened by the loss of the mansion community. I am glad they all found their true soulmates - each other! (Except Chock who is in this for himself and the girl only. I swear he's the type that gets on a reality show and says "I'm not here to make friends").

[CatWarmer]

I’m trying to remember if Joan ever talks about being married again, or just about finding love. I agree with others that I doubt she’s looking for an engagement - find someone interesting then take it slow!

Re Chock, not my cup of tea, but he may be understanding Joan’s needs best at the moment. She’s talked about wanting to be seen and validated, but I think she really means she wants to be prioritized. After being a support for so much of her life, perhaps she wants to be primary right now. No longer a cog in other’s lives, but top banana in her own. She doesn’t want to be defined as widow-mother-grandmother, which could be why she went on The Golden Bachelor. Her role as mother obviously was most important and she dodged a bullet there for sure. But it did pull her back into her support role.

So at the bowling alley, if she wasn’t fine with Chock monopolizing her (although a lot of that could just be editing), she had the freedom to get up. I think it’s great that the men have bonded and allowed themselves to open up and be vulnerable, and it’s a fun premise for a reality series.

But Chock does seem really invested - he actually returned after his mother’s passing. Granted the mother had her second husband at her side and it was not a surprise, but still. I spent decades knowing I was second in priority to my MIL so it must have been flattering for Joan to realize he returned even under those circumstances. A lot of the guys are now pushing their relationships with their mothers/children/grandchildren to show their sensitivity, but not necessarily getting Joan to feel that she would be a priority moving forward. They want to be validated themselves, not validate Joan, as it were.

[kristen111]

7 hours ago, Alexander Pope said:

Mark seems like a kind and sweet person but I agree with others that he might not carry the show very well.  Not only is he too quiet, he isn't quick.  He speaks SO SLOWLY--I would drown in my soup having dinner with him.  But I'm a New Yorker, so that may be more my problem.

Chock seems extremely controlling to me and his behavior at the bowling alley was not cool.  Major red flag, and I was not happy with Joan for not noticing.

You are right on all counts.  Chock is very conceited.  Him monopolizing Joan on the boat was not nice.  Who dos he think he is?  New Yorkers think alike.   Queens, then Long Island for me.

2 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

You are right on all counts.  Chock is very conceited.  Him monopolizing Joan on the boat was not nice.  Who dos he think he is?  New Yorkers think alike.   Queens, then Long Island for me.   Met my hubby at Con Ed .. married since then forever.

 

[Breedom]

Every time I look at Chock I see Bing Crosby's face.

And I don't like Bing Crosby's face.

It's sad seeing these guys go. I like how validating and nurturing Joan is to these guys and I think that's what they like about her personality. They feel "seen" as some have said. But then I don't always see the reciprocation. Some of them seem so starved to be listened to, it becomes all about their feelings, not hers.

Joan has talked about her husband and family some, but I can't recall too much else. Marc could have easily had her open up on the boat, but didn't - it could have just been nervousness. 

Still kills me how quickly every guy on the show has fallen so deeply in love with Joan. They all know close to nothing about each other, and yet . . . 

Joan doesn't look like she's having much fun though.

 

[eclectcmoi]

I could see them pushing Mark as the next Golden Bachelor.  I can see the hype now over a former Bachelorette's father now having his own "journey" and chance at love.  He is quiet yes, but what really does Joan bring to the table other than her body and looks?   Nothing. She is not personality plus with any spark that I've been able to see.  No great witty sense of humor... nothing.  She's as bland as white bread with no butter.  And I LOVE bread.  

I still see a Daniel Craig-Patrick Duffy mix-up when I look at Chock. He is giving Joan attention and showing he's really in to her.  I think she wants that.    But... maybe they're showing so much of him with her and less of the other men with her to throw us off who she really picks.  They've done that before.  Guess we'll see! 

[ljenkins782]

6 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

The main lesson I have gotten from this show is that older men really need more friends. As much as this show is about "finding another chance at love" it feels like what they really needed was a sense of community, much like in Golden Bachelor. Its hard to make friends as an adult but it seems like its even harder for men, they generally don't have as many spaces where they can really get to know each other, so its great to see so many of them really bonding and getting to work out a lot of loss that they have experienced together. 

I guess the real Golden Bachelorette was the friends we made along the way. 

Joan is so low energy, I think she's a nice person and is lovely (even with the obvious plastic surgery) but I am still not sure she's totally on board. I guess its part of the point that she talks about her deceased husband a lot and still cries a lot, but I am still not sure she is totally ready for this. 

Mark really blew it on that date, it was hard to witness that much awkward silence. Joan is already pretty quiet, the last thing she needed was someone who couldn't bring any energy to the party. He really has been out of the dating game for a long time if he thought he nailed that date. 

Chok seems to think he has this in the bag, I don't love how smug he is. 

Yeah, the group friendship is clearly the best part of this experience for both them and the viewers. I cracked up when they were all in the pool together and the plane deliberately flew over to show them Joan and whoever was on there with her and they all did the obligatory point upward and then went straight back to swimming. On the younger version, someone would have been pouting or furious at having the date shoved in their faces and it would have produced a meltdown, but these guys just do the bare minimum of producer-prodded nonsense and go back to hanging out. 

And for those who are grieving or even just divorced, it's been such a rare opportunity for them to talk about their relationships with people who've been through it too, it's genuinely nice to see. 

I'm not sure Joan is ready either and if not, hopefully she won't pull a Gerry and go through with it just to have it flop months later. And as much as it's been good for the guys to have space to talk and process, it probably is for her as well. If her friends still have their husbands, there's probably a feeling of not being able to talk about her grief too much. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Joan reminded me that, after the one-on-one dates, the guys all go back to the mansion and hang out and bond. Joan goes back to no one, maybe an assistant producer, makeup artist, hairstylist, wardrobe consultant? That must be difficult. 
 

 

 

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 10/16/2024 at 6:04 PM, Armchair Critic said:

I didn't need to see Pascal in his tighty whities. 😬

I did!  He wears them well.

[Dewey Decimate]

Chock has been giving me bad mojo vibes since the beginning, but it wasn't until this episode that I realized what it was: he never breaks eye contact with Joan, which makes him look like a predator. Not a sexual predator, but just purely animal kingdom style, like he's eyeing his next meal. It feels so invasive and unduly intense (lovebombing might be the term) towards a person he's known for just a couple weeks. And I can't tell if they actually have "chemistry" or if he's just going in for face-sucking and she's too polite to resist.

The possessive monopolization of Joan during bowling was disgusting. What a creep. And when Guy pointed out how Chock had his arm around her and Joan was snuggled in, I thought they cut to a scene of Joan with clear distance between her and Chock. Was she trying to move away a bit? Can't blame her one iota.

Out of who's left, Guy's personal deal with his ex-wife sounds a bit unsavory, Pascal just seems unlikely to leave his home & business and have an actual relationship, so maybe Jordan is a dark horse. Bonus is that he "seems" the youngest of all if them (but I wouldn't be surprised if he were to prefer a woman younger than Joan).

[ljenkins782]

8 hours ago, Dewey Decimate said:

Chock has been giving me bad mojo vibes since the beginning, but it wasn't until this episode that I realized what it was: he never breaks eye contact with Joan, which makes him look like a predator. Not a sexual predator, but just purely animal kingdom style, like he's eyeing his next meal. It feels so invasive and unduly intense (lovebombing might be the term) towards a person he's known for just a couple weeks. And I can't tell if they actually have "chemistry" or if he's just going in for face-sucking and she's too polite to resist.

The possessive monopolization of Joan during bowling was disgusting. What a creep. And when Guy pointed out how Chock had his arm around her and Joan was snuggled in, I thought they cut to a scene of Joan with clear distance between her and Chock. Was she trying to move away a bit? Can't blame her one iota.

Out of who's left, Guy's personal deal with his ex-wife sounds a bit unsavory, Pascal just seems unlikely to leave his home & business and have an actual relationship, so maybe Jordan is a dark horse. Bonus is that he "seems" the youngest of all if them (but I wouldn't be surprised if he were to prefer a woman younger than Joan).

Yes, that's a good call with the unsettling eye contact. And I agree that the bowling incident looked awkward for her, like he was trying to make a power play and she's too polite to be like "this is too much with all the other guys here." 

He's like the grown up version of Devin from Jenn's miserable failure of the Bachelorette, the one who keeps his eyes firmly on the prize of winning the show, but jury's out on whether he's really into the woman.

Pascal is never gonna uproot his business and life to move to wherever Joan is, but he's such great TV, I would love to see him as the Golden Bachelor. I have zero investment on whether these people really find lasting relationships, so good tv is really my only requirement. And of this group, I think he's the one who could best carry a show and would inspire a lot of interest from women. His talking heads are always interesting and that accent is just fun.

Agreed with whoever above said Mark is too quiet to carry a show. I understand why he caught people's eye as a dad in a hometown, that's like 5 mins of airtime. But a whole show of his slow talking would be pretty dull. 

[kristen111]

14 hours ago, Breedom said:

Every time I look at Chock I see Bing Crosby's face.

And I don't like Bing Crosby's face.

It's sad seeing these guys go. I like how validating and nurturing Joan is to these guys and I think that's what they like about her personality. They feel "seen" as some have said. But then I don't always see the reciprocation. Some of them seem so starved to be listened to, it becomes all about their feelings, not hers.

Joan has talked about her husband and family some, but I can't recall too much else. Marc could have easily had her open up on the boat, but didn't - it could have just been nervousness. 

Still kills me how quickly every guy on the show has fallen so deeply in love with Joan. They all know close to nothing about each other, and yet . . . 

Joan doesn't look like she's having much fun though.

 

I don’t think Joanie is into this tabacle much.  She’s still thinking of her late husband and comparing.  He probably treated her like a Queen.  I can’t see one of those guys having dinner every Sunday with her kids and grandkids.  Guys want to play golf and do other sports.  Every Sunday is a bit much.  It’s good for her, but maybe not good for one of those guys.  Joan didn’t look too thrilled on that boat.  Plus, what’s with all this kissing strangers.  It’s gross.  Tongue no Less.  Barf.

 

[Breedom]

13 hours ago, ljenkins782 said:

I'm not sure Joan is ready either and if not, hopefully she won't pull a Gerry and go through with it just to have it flop months later.

Interesting that the producers sought someone out who is still so deeply attached to her husband and is still grieving, vs. someone really ready to find her significant other. But what if she ended up not picking anyone? I have only watched the Golden shows and never the younger version, so I don't know. In any case, I'd be disappointed if she went home alone. That defeats the whole premise of the show.

I'm beginning to see there isn't a strong choice between who is left. Chock, you ain't it. Go home.

[Alexander Pope]

16 hours ago, kristen111 said:

You are right on all counts.  Chock is very conceited.  Him monopolizing Joan on the boat was not nice.  Who dos he think he is?  New Yorkers think alike.   Queens, then Long Island for me.

 

I grew up in Queens! And I would like to add that Chock literally did say "I'm not here to make friends"!

[StatisticalOutlier]

13 hours ago, Dewey Decimate said:

And when Guy pointed out how Chock had his arm around her and Joan was snuggled in, I thought they cut to a scene of Joan with clear distance between her and Chock. Was she trying to move away a bit?

I noticed a scene where he had his arm around her and she was close enough to have him do that.  Then there was another where she was a little farther away, but sitting with her legs curled up on the bench, kind of leaning his way.  That one had a very relaxed, cozy look to me.  And who knows--maybe that happened first and he moved closer to her.  You know how these editors work.

3 hours ago, kristen111 said:

I can’t see one of those guys having dinner every Sunday with her kids and grandkids.  Guys want to play golf and do other sports.  Every Sunday is a bit much.  It’s good for her, but maybe not good for one of those guys. 

But I'm assuming it was good for her dead husband, who presumably was there for these dinners.  Not all guys want to play golf and do other sports on Sundays.  Maybe some of these guys have nothing better to do on Sundays and want to do it for Joan, or maybe they end up actually liking her family and want to spend time with them.

Speaking of, what I found amusing was that she was bemoaning how she goes to brunch with her friends and they all go home to a partner, and she goes home alone.  She was already facing the prospect of going home alone, but her husband died before being sentenced for his three federal convictions.  Then again, maybe he would have gotten home confinement, in which case she'd be confident she wouldn't be going home to an empty house.

[Ilovepie]

14 hours ago, Dewey Decimate said:

Chock has been giving me bad mojo vibes since the beginning, but it wasn't until this episode that I realized what it was: he never breaks eye contact with Joan, which makes him look like a predator. Not a sexual predator, but just purely animal kingdom style, like he's eyeing his next meal. It feels so invasive and unduly intense (lovebombing might be the term) towards a person he's known for just a couple weeks. And I can't tell if they actually have "chemistry" or if he's just going in for face-sucking and she's too polite to resist.

The possessive monopolization of Joan during bowling was disgusting. What a creep. And when Guy pointed out how Chock had his arm around her and Joan was snuggled in, I thought they cut to a scene of Joan with clear distance between her and Chock. Was she trying to move away a bit? Can't blame her one iota.

You NAILED IT. The eye contact is hinging on sociopathic to me. It's creepy. And aggressive. At the bowling alley Joan was as tiny as she could make herself into a little ball and he just was looming over the top of her - it looked like low key harassment - could he not see from her body language to stop? Yes, she could have gotten up, but he inserted himself into her personal space. He makes me very uncomfortable.

[ljenkins782]

3 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

But I'm assuming it was good for her dead husband, who presumably was there for these dinners.  Not all guys want to play golf and do other sports on Sundays.  Maybe some of these guys have nothing better to do on Sundays and want to do it for Joan, or maybe they end up actually liking her family and want to spend time with them.

Well her kids were her husband's kids, so that's a little different than bringing a new boyfriend/husband in who doesn't have that blood relationship with the kids.

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Interesting that the producers sought someone out who is still so deeply attached to her husband and is still grieving, vs. someone really ready to find her significant other. But what if she ended up not picking anyone? I have only watched the Golden shows and never the younger version, so I don't know. In any case, I'd be disappointed if she went home alone. That defeats the whole premise of the show.

 I'm sure she'll pick someone, but the likelihood of a successful relationship beyond the show is about 10% or less. There have been rare cases where the lead doesn't pick someone at the end, I personally don't care by the end if/who they pick because the show's over by then and it won't matter to me once they're off my TV.

[kristen111]

6 hours ago, Alexander Pope said:

I grew up in Queens! And I would like to add that Chock literally did say "I'm not here to make friends"!

Me too .. Queens.

3 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

You NAILED IT. The eye contact is hinging on sociopathic to me. It's creepy. And aggressive. At the bowling alley Joan was as tiny as she could make herself into a little ball and he just was looming over the top of her - it looked like low key harassment - could he not see from her body language to stop? Yes, she could have gotten up, but he inserted himself into her personal space. He makes me very uncomfortable.

He’s “Hot to Trot”.  Gross

[StatisticalOutlier]

4 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

At the bowling alley Joan was as tiny as she could make herself into a little ball and he just was looming over the top of her - it looked like low key harassment - could he not see from her body language to stop?

While I thought she looked very cozy and comfortable when she was casually balled up like that next to him. 

1 hour ago, ljenkins782 said:

Well her kids were her husband's kids, so that's a little different than bringing a new boyfriend/husband in who doesn't have that blood relationship with the kids.

But like I said, there's always the possibility that he really likes her kids and wants to spend time with them.  Mr. Outlier likes spending time with my siblings--possibly more than I do, actually.  😀  And they probably feel the same way about spending time with him compared to spending time me.  I know my parents loved having him around.  But maybe that's because he tinkered with the TV audio enough that my mother could finally understand the dialogue on Law & Order. 

[Hip-to-be-Square]

On 10/17/2024 at 8:41 PM, StatisticalOutlier said:

I did!  He wears them well.

Yes 😄🙌💯!!! I rewound it to see Pascal again and again! He's the whole package 😉

Edited October 19 by Hip-to-be-Square

[Cloud9Shopper]

13 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

While I thought she looked very cozy and comfortable when she was casually balled up like that next to him.

I thought the same thing, and really all that matters is what Joan has said about how Chock makes her feel. But I’ve gotten creepier vibes from guys my age (I’m in my late 30s) or younger in real life that Chock doesn’t particularly weird me out. I can see why he turns a lot of people off, though. But it looks like we’re in the minority lol. 

I liked the moment between her and Jonathan when she walked him out too. I’d love to see him as the golden bachelor. 

Edited October 19 by Cloud9Shopper

[Hip-to-be-Square]

3 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I thought the same thing, and really all that matters is what Joan has said about how Chock makes her feel. But I’ve gotten creepier vibes from guys my age (I’m in my late 30s) or younger in real life that Chock doesn’t particularly weird me out. I can see why he turns a lot of people off, though. But it looks like we’re in the minority lol. 

I liked the moment between her and Jonathan when she walked him out too. I’d love to see him as the golden bachelor. 

I just turned 36 and I agree- a lot of guys on the dating apps are creepier than any guys deemed as creepy or pushy on these shows. The whole point of these shows is for guys to compete and show how interested they are in the Bachelorette- if Chock wants to put his arm around her at the bowling alley group date, that's ok.  Maybe a producer told him to do that. I want Jonathan or Pascal to be the next Golden Bachelor 😘.

Edited October 19 by Hip-to-be-Square

[Cloud9Shopper]

I’m actually happy there’s a “golden” edition of these shows now. I haven’t watched original recipe Bachelor or Bachelorette in years, though I do remember Trista and Ryan’s season and their wedding. (Honestly can’t believe they stayed together but I don’t want to get off topic.) It’s nice to see the guys all support each other and bond even if they all want as much time with Joan as possible. It’s nice to see more mature people look for another chance at love. I missed the first season of Golden Bachelor but that ended up a mess anyway so I didn’t miss much clearly. 

Did Joan voluntarily leave when she was on the Golden Bachelor or did she just get eliminated on a rose night?

[Mabinogia]

4 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I thought the same thing, and really all that matters is what Joan has said about how Chock makes her feel. But I’ve gotten creepier vibes from guys my age (I’m in my late 30s) or younger in real life that Chock doesn’t particularly weird me out. I can see why he turns a lot of people off, though. But it looks like we’re in the minority lol.

I see a very easy chemistry with Chock and Joan. I think she probably likes that he is all about her while they other guys bond with each other. Given how much her physical appearance seems geared towards getting attention, I think she very much needs the validation he gives her.

Doesn't so much matter what we think of him. I see no signs from Joan that he is too pushy or making her uncomfortable. I see the exact opposite, that he makes her feel very comfortable and that is probably why he will win this thing. Now, if his feelings for her are love or just a need to win, that is up in the air, and I'm not convinced it is love on her end either. More like, they are compatible and he makes her feel desirable. 

I do wonder if she is truly ready to really fall in love and sees Chock as a safer choice because she's less likely to break his heart should this all go south. 

I know Mark, being part of the Bachelor Fam, is their top choice for next GB but I just don't see it. I mostly get the feeling he is there because his daughter asked him to and less because he actually wants to be involved in any of this. He just comes across as too low key to want to be part of this famewhorey Bachelor world. 

[Quickbeam]

3 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I’m actually happy there’s a “golden” edition of these shows now. I haven’t watched original recipe Bachelor or Bachelorette in years, though I do remember Trista and Ryan’s season and their wedding. (Honestly can’t believe they stayed together but I don’t want to get off topic.) It’s nice to see the guys all support each other and bond even if they all want as much time with Joan as possible. It’s nice to see more mature people look for another chance at love. I missed the first season of Golden Bachelor but that ended up a mess anyway so I didn’t miss much clearly. 

Did Joan voluntarily leave when she was on the Golden Bachelor or did she just get eliminated on a rose night?

Joan left because her daughter had struggles after giving birth. She never got the boot. 

[ljenkins782]

4 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I’m actually happy there’s a “golden” edition of these shows now. I haven’t watched original recipe Bachelor or Bachelorette in years, though I do remember Trista and Ryan’s season and their wedding. (Honestly can’t believe they stayed together but I don’t want to get off topic.) It’s nice to see the guys all support each other and bond even if they all want as much time with Joan as possible. It’s nice to see more mature people look for another chance at love. I missed the first season of Golden Bachelor but that ended up a mess anyway so I didn’t miss much clearly. 

The other refreshing feature of the golden franchise vs the younger one is the lack of limo exit meltdowns describing their ouster as the worst moment of their lives. These people have lived through actual hard times so their perspective is clearer.

Chock just kinda grosses me out, his milky eyes with the unwavering contact and stilted way of speaking, I can’t imagine finding that desirable, but she seems to be into it.

I’m looking forward to these hometowns, I’m guessing the person in the previews saying “he won’t pick you” is related to pascal somehow. I don’t think relocation would be an easy prospect for any of them, but he’s the one who seems least likely to uproot.

[Arkay]

On 10/16/2024 at 10:53 PM, LakeGal said:

They really have to quit showing the back of Joan's head.  I was so distracted by how bad her hair looked while she was chatting with Trista.  

This is what I hope for on Pascal’s hometown date…fix up her rotten looking hair!

 

Mark is very handsome but I agree, he cannot sustain being the lead of a show if he is going to be so taciturn.

I thought it might have just been the editing, until she sent him home.

But I am also a lifelong New Yorker, first in Manhattan and now in Brooklyn, so that slow, slow pace does not work for me either!

 

I’ll go with Jordan as the one I prefer,  but I think she will pick Chock Full O’ Nuts.

[Armchair Critic]

Her boobage in that orange dress 😮 she looks sexy but not something I would want to meet the family in.