Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media

[Gramto6]

9 minutes ago, ladyscorpio said:

 

I wonder if he has a non disclosure agreement saying he won't talk about Robyn or their marriage? I know he's not on the show so I don't know if they could have him sign one or not. I know he's remarried and has other children. 

I wonder of there was an NDA that came with $$ and that is the reason he doesn't speak out?

Edited January 10, 2024 by Gramto6

[Sandy W]

9 minutes ago, ladyscorpio said:

I couldn't remember exactly how long it was, it's been a while since I've watched the old episodes. 

I wonder if he has a non disclosure agreement saying he won't talk about Robyn or their marriage? I know he's not on the show so I don't know if they could have him sign one or not. I know he's remarried and has other children. 

He is desperately ill with leukemia. Probably the last thing on his mind is what the general public thinks of him.

If he feels squared away with all of his kids, present wife and his friends and family, that may be all that's important to him.

[Gramto6]

4 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

He is desperately ill with leukemia. Probably the last thing on his mind is what the general public thinks of him.

If he feels squared away with all of his kids, present wife and his friends and family, that may be all that's important to him.

I forgot about how ill he was. Agree he doesn't care about the general public. I just hope CB's three kids have the chance to be in that circle of people he is squared away with.

[Sandy W]

9 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

I forgot about how ill he was. Agree he doesn't care about the general public. I just hope CB's three kids have the chance to be in that circle of people he is squared away with.

Pretty sure at least Dayton is.  Rumours abound that he has either spent time with his bio father recently or that he has moved to be closer to him.

[Canadian Girl]

2 hours ago, General Days said:

I'll never forget Aurora sobbing with relief when Kody said he could adopt them.

Sobbing with relief or sobbing from "my mother built this up as something I should desperately want with all my heart and soul and to thrive on emotional drama like this" ??

Personally I'll never forget the look of hurt and confusion on Dayton's face. 

Edited January 10, 2024 by Canadian Girl

[ladyscorpio]

2 hours ago, General Days said:

I don't think the abuse in Robyn's first marriage is b.s. Her three oldest kids were way too hungry for Kody's affection, and I'll never forget Aurora sobbing with relief when Kody said he could adopt them.

Just because Robyn sucks doesn't mean her ex didn't also suck.

His relatives thar have made statements online tell a different story, we don't personally know them but what I've seen of Robyn on t.v., lying and twisting stories around to make her out to be a victim, it does not surprise me one bit that she would do the same thing with her ex. 

In the comments section uner the video, the very first comment is a lady saying she's a first cousin to Robyn’s ex and tells a part of their side of the story. 

Edited January 10, 2024 by ladyscorpio

[SunnyBeBe]

I don’t know the situation from this show, but to attempt to erase the other parent from the lives of your children is a red flag. Parental alienation is despicable, but all too common.  Eventually, the kids actually believe they were mistreated.  

[Natalie68]

1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I don’t know the situation from this show, but to attempt to erase the other parent from the lives of your children is a red flag. Parental alienation is despicable, but all too common.  Eventually, the kids actually believe they were mistreated.  

 Robyn has a fleet of red flags waving!

[ginger90]

This article has a clip from part two of the wedding.

 

https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sister-wives-christine-mother-dance-wedding-rcna133277

[xwordfanatik]

I love that dance!  I can feel (fill!) the love that Ysabel and Christine have.  So nice to see.

And can I say that it was wonderful not to see Kootie doing his chicken-having-a-seizure dance?

I'm sure Crybrows is green with envy, if she watched it.  Karma, it's a bitch!  😝

[Gramto6]

1 hour ago, xwordfanatik said:

I love that dance!  I can feel (fill!) the love that Ysabel and Christine have.  So nice to see.

And can I say that it was wonderful not to see Kootie doing his chicken-having-a-seizure dance?

I'm sure Crybrows is green with envy, if she watched it.  Karma, it's a bitch!  😝

Loved the dance!!

And love, love, love the bolded part of the post!! That is such a perfect description of Kooties' dancing abilities! (Which are NONE!) 

[Auntie Freeze]

I've always assumed there was a degree of parental alienation going on with Crybrow's ex. Belief strengthened by the way she's programmed her kids against the others. Perhaps her ex felt like making a stink wouldn't change anything, or might make it worse, so he's been waiting patiently for the kids to grow up and reach out?

[ginger90]

Clip from the next episode:

 

https://people.com/see-christine-brown-husband-david-woolley-first-glimpse-her-walking-down-aisle-exclusive-8424977

[IvySpice]

On 1/9/2024 at 8:43 PM, ladyscorpio said:

I wish we could hear his side of the story, I'm sure it would be quite different than hers. 

On 1/10/2024 at 7:00 AM, Gramto6 said:

his public silence seems odd

On 1/10/2024 at 11:46 AM, Gramto6 said:

I wonder of there was an NDA that came with $$ and that is the reason he doesn't speak out?

All of this is well speculated. He was healthy for most of the time that Robyn and his kids have been in the public eye. A tabloid would pay him real money for a truth-about-Robyn interview with supporting evidence. Why hasn't he done that? The best explanations are (1) he's already been paid somehow to lay low (2) he's actually an unselfish parent who won't publicly humiliate his kids by smearing their mother, even at the cost of being labeled an abuser on national TV.

[Sandy W]

1 hour ago, IvySpice said:

All of this is well speculated. He was healthy for most of the time that Robyn and his kids have been in the public eye. A tabloid would pay him real money for a truth-about-Robyn interview with supporting evidence. Why hasn't he done that? The best explanations are (1) he's already been paid somehow to lay low (2) he's actually an unselfish parent who won't publicly humiliate his kids by smearing their mother, even at the cost of being labeled an abuser on national TV.

(2) seems most likely to me.

Edited January 12, 2024 by Sandy W

[surfgirl]

42 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

(2) seems most likely to me.

But, but, but he has to be a 'bad man' because otherwise DoucheNoodle couldn't have married Sobbyn. Because only a woman who has left a bad man is worthy of marriage, haven't you gotten the DouchieMemo?

[Granny58]

On 1/1/2024 at 10:38 PM, ladyscorpio said:

This is what came up when I googled her maiden name, maybe it's wrong?

maybe she married?  That was be awesome. 

[applewood]

I don't know if this has been posted before but I just read online that Christine's old house in Flagstaff has been made into an Air BnB by the new owners.

Now you can stay in the very house where the Brown family lived. You can see the porch where they had the "knife in my kidneys" fight.  the yard where they had Ysibel's graduation party and sang "Unwritten." Christine's bedroom where there was absolutely "nuttin" going on.

https://www.vrbo.com/1002738?dateless=true&x_pwa=1&rfrr=HSR&pwa_ts=1705163815071&referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&useRewards=true&adults=2&regionId=1218&destination=Flagstaff%2C+Arizona%2C+United+States+of+America&destType=MARKET&latLong=35.198284%2C-111.651298&bedroom_count_gt=3&privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&searchId=a64c5538-168d-4833-923b-3476bee521f8&sort=RECOMMENDED&userIntent=&expediaPropertyId=33503875

Edited January 13, 2024 by applewood
mispelling

[Sandy W]

37 minutes ago, applewood said:

I don't know if this has been posted before but I just read online that Christine's old house in Flagstaff has been made into an Air BnB by the new owners.

Now you can stay in the very house where the Broqn family lived. You can see the porch where they had the "knife in my kidneys" fight.  the yard where they had Ysibel's graduation party and sang Unwritten. Christine's bedroom where there was absolutely "nuttin" going on.

https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2023/04/27/heres-your-chance-to-live-like-a-sister-wives-star-christine-browns-former-home-in-flagstaff-is-now-for-rent-on-airbnb/

Sleeps up to 12 for $291. per night. Sounds like a far better deal than a BnB in Podunk Utah.

[goofygirl]

That doesn't look like Christine's old house at all.  From the pictures, it looks like there's another house right next door.  Maybe it's Meri's old Flagstaff house?

[ginger90]

17 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

That doesn't look like Christine's old house at all.  From the pictures, it looks like there's another house right next door.  Maybe it's Meri's old Flagstaff house?

That link is not for Christine’s house.

Edited January 13, 2024 by ginger90

[ginger90]

2 hours ago, applewood said:

I don't know if this has been posted before but I just read online that Christine's old house in Flagstaff has been made into an Air BnB by the new owners.

It was but that link isn’t Christine’s former house.

[applewood]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

It was but that link isn’t Christine’s former house.

Oops. Sorry. That link is not Christine's house. I was trying to find her house on the Air BnB site and couldn't. Perhaps it was taken down. :(

Gosh, I so wanted to go there and have the Kody Brown experience.  lol

Anywho, here is the original article that said it was being made into an Air BnB:

https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2023/04/27/heres-your-chance-to-live-like-a-sister-wives-star-christine-browns-former-home-in-flagstaff-is-now-for-rent-on-airbnb/

[surfgirl]

8 hours ago, applewood said:

Gosh, I so wanted to go there and have the Kody Brown experience. 

I can help. Just rent a house you can't afford and send me $10,000 and I'll come there and berate you endlessly, then crap up the house with my random shit. Go ahead and invite random people you think are friends but are just acquaintances and I will put on loud music and twirl around like a deranged troll. And I will show you how to noodlize your hair as a bonus freebie. And when I leave, you will feel terrible about every decision you have ever made. You will have no self esteem. And you will have an irrational fear of nachos and rice crispy bars. 

You're welcome.

Edited January 14, 2024 by surfgirl

[Meow Mix]

12 hours ago, surfgirl said:

You will have no self esteem. And you will have an irrational fear of nachos and rice crispy bars. 

You're welcome.

What about toasters?

[surfgirl]

1 hour ago, Meow Mix said:

What about toasters?

Toasters are an extra charge.

[altopower]

We were all grumpy last week with Robyn and Kody in the episode at all. I read this today online and it becomes clear: He was there because it's his show and he needed the paycheck. Yeah. What a sweetheart.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/10049677/sister-wives-kody-brown-featured-christine-wedding-special-paycheck/

[goofygirl]

1 hour ago, altopower said:

We were all grumpy last week with Robyn and Kody in the episode at all. I read this today online and it becomes clear: He was there because it's his show and he needed the paycheck. Yeah. What a sweetheart.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/10049677/sister-wives-kody-brown-featured-christine-wedding-special-paycheck/

Where's that vomit emoji when you need it?

[Gramto6]

And according to the article Christine is still under some sort of contract to do the show.  That just doesn't seem fair that she has to be exposed to Kootie again and again during filming. You can be sure K&R are going to be cruel to her when they are off camera.

The show is broken and I think that is why the big audiences, everyone wanted to see the train wreck. And it has! What more is there to milk?

[Yeah No]

3 hours ago, altopower said:

We were all grumpy last week with Robyn and Kody in the episode at all. I read this today online and it becomes clear: He was there because it's his show and he needed the paycheck. Yeah. What a sweetheart.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/10049677/sister-wives-kody-brown-featured-christine-wedding-special-paycheck/

"It's his show" and "in the beginning he was head of the family contract" = what I said last week about him making sure it was in his contract that he could be in every episode if he wanted.  And of course he wanted to be in the wedding episode just to spite Christine.  I don't even buy that it had anything to do with getting a paycheck although I'm sure he wouldn't turn down an opportunity to get one.

[MaryMitch]

A new season might be interesting, but I doubt I will watch it. I took a break several years ago (they still lived in Las Vegas) and just came back this year to see the train wreck.

[Meow Mix]

I suspect the contract was similar to what JB Duggar did with his family.  There was an LLC that was paid by TLC then he doled out what he chose (which wasn't much) to the rest of the family.  I suspect that some of the older Brown kids refused to continue to sign on as part of the Brown LLC, so they wouldn't be obligated to be on the show if they didn't want to.  I know at least Logan and Leon avoided the cameras at Christine's wedding.

I'm not sure how it is now since Kody and Robyn created their own LLC SADKRAB (I know it's DABSARK, but SADKRAB fits better) which doesn't include anyone but them and the tenders.  It could be that Christine participates, but she doesn't have to be around Kody to do it.

[Gramto6]

Poor widdle Kootie needs the money, I'll bet he does. Trying to reign in the Shopping Queen isn't going to work for long, if at all! 

Unfortunately he isn't self aware enough to see that his actions were the cause of the downfall of the family. He was so eager to push out the OG3 with no thought of the fact that no wives meant no show! He wanted Crybrows as his one and only with no other wives and kids to have to think about.  The OG3 wives finally saw this and up and left his sorry a$$. 

The Kootie in the first few seasons was a very different Kootie from today's. Maybe he was holding all his cray-cray inside then, but it finally got too much and it just burst out. Or his (Z-list) "fame" went to his head and he thought he could behave in any way and still be the "Star". He thought he could do no wrong, problem is it was all in his head.

[dariafan]

10 hours ago, Yeah No said:

"It's his show" and "in the beginning he was head of the family contract" = what I said last week about him making sure it was in his contract that he could be in every episode if he wanted.  And of course he wanted to be in the wedding episode just to spite Christine.  I don't even buy that it had anything to do with getting a paycheck although I'm sure he wouldn't turn down an opportunity to get one.

Who does he think he is , Hugh Hefner ???  Never mind , don’t answer that !

[General Days]

4 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

I suspect the contract was similar to what JB Duggar did with his family.  There was an LLC that was paid by TLC then he doled out what he chose (which wasn't much) to the rest of the family.  I suspect that some of the older Brown kids refused to continue to sign on as part of the Brown LLC, so they wouldn't be obligated to be on the show if they didn't want to.  I know at least Logan and Leon avoided the cameras at Christine's wedding.

I'm not sure how it is now since Kody and Robyn created their own LLC SADKRAB (I know it's DABSARK, but SADKRAB fits better) which doesn't include anyone but them and the tenders.  It could be that Christine participates, but she doesn't have to be around Kody to do it.

You're right about the LLC. The Browns have had various ones (I think they've needed a new one in each state they lived in) since the show began. The kids were never paid (even through the LLC) for their participation, though -- not even through the LLC.

I do think Kody has been generous with them at times, but, of course, that's a form of control.

All the people whose parents made them be on their reality TV shows, when the offspring were minors, ought to start a movement to protect reality TV show kids, the way child actors are protected. Parent/managers still screw over kid actors, but it's not as bad as it was in Jackie Coogan's day.

One of the problems is that each state can have its own laws on the subject. So they'd want any movement to be such that they pressured studios and networks only to do business with production companies that comply with the protections in California state law.

Basically, the kids should get some sort of scale pay, whenever they're in an episode, and there should be a requirement that some of their earnings are protected until they become legal adults.

Seriously, the Browns, the Gosselins, the Duggars, etc., should band together, lobby Congress and their own state legislatures, and start a movement. They'd get sympathetic news coverage. There are politicians who would be empathetic to their cause, too.

I'd love to see them do something like that. It would also chap the hides of people like Kody Brown, Jim Bob Duggar, and Kate Gosselin, and who doesn't want to see that?

 

Edited January 15, 2024 by General Days
typo

[Absolom]

Pennsylvania did pass a law because of the Gosselins.

It's true the Brown kids could make an impact on laws in the states where they've lived and are better positioned than the Duggars to both know about how they were used and to be able to speak more freely now.

[Meow Mix]

I know at one time Paul Peterson with his organization A Minor Concern was trying to lobby for protections for kids on reality shows.  Not sure how far he got because as has been said, this has to be done on a state by state basis.  

[General Days]

Right, that's why part of their strategy would have to be to pressure the networks and streaming platforms not to do business with production companies that don't comply with [e.g. whatever California's protections are for child actors), regardless of where the series is shot.

[ginger90]

Robyn and Kody have a new LLC with the registered agent listed as being in Vegas, RBHK LLC. It was  filed on December 18, 2023. No clue what the initials stand for. 

Edited January 15, 2024 by ginger90

[Quof]

Robyn Brown Hates Kody?

[surfgirl]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Robyn and Kody have a new LLC with the registered agent listed as being in Vegas, RBHK LLC. It was  filed on December 18, 2023. No clue what the initials stand for. 

Robyn Brown Has Kooties.

Robyn Brown Hates Kootie.

Robyn Brown's Hateful Kooter.

Robyn Brown Hasbeen Kueen.

I could do this all day long but I need to get some actual shit done today.

Edited January 15, 2024 by surfgirl

[ladyscorpio]

17 hours ago, Yeah No said:

"It's his show" and "in the beginning he was head of the family contract" = what I said last week about him making sure it was in his contract that he could be in every episode if he wanted.  And of course he wanted to be in the wedding episode just to spite Christine.  I don't even buy that it had anything to do with getting a paycheck although I'm sure he wouldn't turn down an opportunity to get one.

That's so annoying how Kody had to insert himself into Christine's wedding episode.  I wish Christine, Meri and Janelle would get their own spinoff with all their kids, without Sobbyn and Kody. I'm sick of seeing those two miserable mooches. Can't the wives make a new contract/show without those two? There is no more Sister Wives, they can make a new show and call it Surviving Sister Wives or something along those lines.

[Orcinus orca]

51 minutes ago, ladyscorpio said:

Can't the wives make a new contract/show without those two?

Why?  What would be the content?  MLMs, visiting with grandkids, shopping, decorating the house?

The entire premise of Sister Wives was to show the dynamics in a polygamist family,  Two single and one married woman has absolutely nothing to show that you can't see at any Walmart.

[Elizzikra]

7 minutes ago, Orcinus orca said:

Why?  What would be the content?  MLMs, visiting with grandkids, shopping, decorating the house?

The entire premise of Sister Wives was to show the dynamics in a polygamist family,  Two single and one married woman has absolutely nothing to show that you can't see at any Walmart.

I never watched any of the Duggar family shows but wasn't that sort of the problem with the show that followed the daughters after they dropped the main family show in the wake of the Josh Duggar scandal? Basically you had a couple of the adult daughters, married and having babies, and the occasional wedding of an adult sibling. 

I guess the idea is that we have watched this family for however many years and now that the plural marriages are over, maybe there is some audience to watch the former sister wives move on with their lives? I could see maybe the occasional two-hour special or a somewhat limited season or two, but yeah, without the plural marriage, there's not a lot there content-wise. 

Honestly the one thing that really captures my interest is how the hell any of them make enough money to live on. I guess Christine is less of a mystery now but there's no way Kody makes enough to support Robyn in the manner to which she has become accustomed and Janelle ... I like her well enough but how she has two nickels to rub together is a mystery to me. I know Meri has the inn but I don't think it could possibly bring in that much. I also know she is a queen of Lularoe but I thought that MLM had pretty much tanked and no one was buying it anymore. So yeah, an hour or two exploring the Brown Family Financial House of Cards would capture my interest.

[Quof]

1 hour ago, ladyscorpio said:

Can't the wives make a new contract/show without those two? There is no more Sister Wives,

Frustration of contract - there are no sister wives, therefore it is impossible to have Sister Wives.  

Fellow lawyers here know I'm right.    Although, technically F of C does require an intervening event that no one could have foreseen, and we all saw this coming. 

[Canadian Girl]

2 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Janelle ... I like her well enough but how she has two nickels to rub together is a mystery to me. 

Janelle is one of the top earners in the country for Plexus (MLM). Isn't there a screenshot listing her Plexus revenue (not take home) as $400,000 or something? 

[Sandy W]

7 minutes ago, Canadian Girl said:

Janelle is one of the top earners in the country for Plexus (MLM). Isn't there a screenshot listing her Plexus revenue (not take home) as $400,000 or something? 

She must have a pretty good cash flow. She has taken several impulsive, expensive trips lately.

[MMEButterfly]

I'm not interested in continuing the series. However, Kody watching and trying to comment upon the last 6 shows (especially the wedding) was just fun. 

[ladyscorpio]

5 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

Why?  What would be the content?  MLMs, visiting with grandkids, shopping, decorating the house?

The entire premise of Sister Wives was to show the dynamics in a polygamist family,  Two single and one married woman has absolutely nothing to show that you can't see at any Walmart.

I understand the premise of Sister Wives and I've watched all the seasons and episodes since the beginning, my point was there is no more sister wives since they all left him (except Robyn) and it seems weird to me that Kody would still be shown in an episode of Christine's wedding to another man. He has nothing to do with that and I can't stand him or Robyn. 

[Yeah No]

6 hours ago, ladyscorpio said:

 Can't the wives make a new contract/show without those two? There is no more Sister Wives, they can make a new show and call it Surviving Sister Wives or something along those lines.

I agree and posted something similar in another thread.  "Sister Wives - The Aftermath" or something like that.

6 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

Why?  What would be the content?  MLMs, visiting with grandkids, shopping, decorating the house?

The entire premise of Sister Wives was to show the dynamics in a polygamist family,  Two single and one married woman has absolutely nothing to show that you can't see at any Walmart.

Oh but how many years did we watch of nothing but boring crap like endless discussions about "My Sister Wives Closet" or Douche-head doing the headless chicken dance and stringing up Christmas lights?  Obviously people will watch this family do just about anything.

5 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I guess the idea is that we have watched this family for however many years and now that the plural marriages are over, maybe there is some audience to watch the former sister wives move on with their lives? I could see maybe the occasional two-hour special or a somewhat limited season or two, but yeah, without the plural marriage, there's not a lot there content-wise. 

I think these people have transcended their original topic and people are interested in them as people now, not just the plural marriage aspect.  I think the audience has moved on from that as they have but not the people themselves.  They'll watch them do anything, like people watch the Kardashians and other reality show families.

46 minutes ago, ladyscorpio said:

I understand the premise of Sister Wives and I've watched all the seasons and episodes since the beginning, my point was there is no more sister wives since they all left him (except Robyn) and it seems weird to me that Kody would still be shown in an episode of Christine's wedding to another man. He has nothing to do with that and I can't stand him or Robyn. 

I said this before but I think he wanted to appear in Christine's marriage episode out of spite.  He has to make himself the focus of attention and take it off of her.  And because he has the power to insert himself there, he did.  After all, as was said, it's "his show".  The ex-wives need their OWN show without him in it.  That'll fix his ass.  I only hope he didn't put a no-spin-off without him in it clause in the show's contract!