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xwordfanatik
xwordfanatik

Crybrows saying "it's scary," and not inviting Garrison and Gabriel for the holidays really bothered me.  I wonder if she has regrets about that now. The toxic couple deserve to feel guilty, IMO.

Joan of Argh
Joan of Argh

Saw this on another site, are we supposed to believe these kids got YOUNGER for Thanksgiving?

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Y'all are discounting the probable huge income from My Sisterwives Closet.  Jewelry always sells well. (And then I laughed and I laughed and I laughed.)

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xwordfanatik

xwordfanatik

It's just a storyline, I am sure.  If Kootie ever fathers another kid, it will be with #5.  Robo will never spawn another.  She's too busy being jealous of the others who don't have a 5 year old co-sleeping with them.  

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iwantcookies

iwantcookies

3 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Ginger, I just want to take a minute to thank you for your invaluable contributions to this site.  Without you keeping us informed of the happenings in Brownville, we would not be as well informed as we are.  You are greatly appreciated.🕵️‍♀️👏

Hear hear ! Thank you!

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Irate Panda

Irate Panda

15 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Ginger, I just want to take a minute to thank you for your invaluable contributions to this site.  Without you keeping us informed of the happenings in Brownville, we would not be as well informed as we are.  You are greatly appreciated.🕵️‍♀️👏

Yes, @ginger90 you are always keeping us up-to-date with the Brown shenanigans, and I certainly appreciate it!!!  Thank you 🙂

 

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Cetacean

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I think we can safely assume that since Kootie did not go to the latest birth that it was not filmed.  No way he'd pass up the chance to have his big fat talking head front and center of the event.

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Gramto6

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3 hours ago, Cetacean said:

I think we can safely assume that since Kootie did not go to the latest birth that it was not filmed.  No way he'd pass up the chance to have his big fat talking head front and center of the event.

Maybe, bur Robochin has his short hairs in her hands and may have said no, too unsafe for "their" fambly for him to travel. Wouldn't put it past her...

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Elizzikra

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Christine saying "Meri I don't want to be married to Kody anymore..."  Well that piques my interest. Unfortunately though, I've been played by previews time and time again. Was the scene out of context. Does it mean something entirely different? Hmmm.

Go Christine! Go!

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Pachengala

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On 4/15/2021 at 3:23 PM, Tuxcat said:

Christine saying "Meri I don't want to be married to Kody anymore..."  Well that piques my interest. Unfortunately though, I've been played by previews time and time again. Was the scene out of context. Does it mean something entirely different? Hmmm.

Defs out of context. It’ll be something like, “...and if I said something to you like, ‘Meri I don’t want to be married to [Douchebag] anymore’...” As much as I want better for them, I don’t think these women are ever going to wise up. 

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Tuxcat

Tuxcat

7 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Another clip from the season finale:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNu5YPiLnex/?hl=en

Ok, Robyn says "I don't feel comfortable doing that to my kids..." Seriously? Read the room. And why does Utah not feel friendly? Thought it was all good now. Dargers don't have a problem with it.

Meri pulls Christine aside... We know from the season preview that Meri's advice is "you don't get to give up" after Christine says "I can't do marriage with Kody" (which is terrible advice in my opinion). 

It's the same advice Meri gave Christine back in season 4. "You have to change yourself to be happy. You have to commit to be happy."

They are still operating under the general assumption that Kody does not like wives who are unhappy. He doesn't want to meet their emotional needs. So they take on the burden for him. He never takes ownership and only favors the wives who are happy in the arrangement.

Again, this is likely all out of context and functioning as a teaser - but there is truth in there somewhere.

 

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Sandy W

Sandy W

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4 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

 

It's the same advice Meri gave Christine back in season 4. "You have to change yourself to be happy. You have to commit to be happy."

They are still operating under the general assumption that Kody does not like wives who are unhappy. He doesn't want to meet their emotional needs. So they take on the burden for him. He never takes ownership and only favors the wives who are happy in the arrangement.

 

 

What. A. Life!

ETA:  🎶🎶Mamas don't let your girls marry polys...

         Cuz if they don't understand him and if they don't obey,

         He'll probably just up and fly far away.🎶

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Corny I know, but it's been stuck in my head and I had to dump it somewhere.
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Sandy W

Sandy W

I don't think there was a "Tell All" at the end of last season, presumably because they are filmed in close to "real time" and they couldn't gather in a studio because of Covid.  I really hope that they will conduct a remote FaceTime session for this season, asking strong probing questions and not accepting eyerolls and doublespeak for answers.

This season the Browns have revealed where the cracks are in their arrangement, it's past time for someone to put pressure on these flaws and let the dam burst, come what may. Dr. Phil may be good for it, he could lock his beady eyes on Kody's and force an honest answer.  I don't want any more "let's move on shall we?" as past moderators have done when they can't breach the Brown walls.

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WhatAmIWatching

WhatAmIWatching

19 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

They are still operating under the general assumption that Kody does not like wives who are unhappy. He doesn't want to meet their emotional needs. So they take on the burden for him. He never takes ownership and only favors the wives who are happy in the arrangement.

 

 

Wellll, okay...I could mayyybe get on board with this IF the other wives were a support system  for the upset/unhappy/what have you wife. ( I couldn't do the multiple spouse thing, but I'm not good at sharing. Just ask my husband when he wanted a bite of my ice cream bar last night 😆)


It's strange to me that after all these years of them being together, that they haven't figured out a way to make things less fraught, or found a way to be a cohesive unit. From what we're  shown, none of them seem to know -or care to know- each other very deeply. 

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Sandy W

Sandy W

5 minutes ago, WhatAmIWatching said:


It's strange to me that after all these years of them being together, that they haven't figured out a way to make things less fraught, or found a way to be a cohesive unit. From what we're  shown, none of them seem to know -or care to know- each other very deeply. 

Individually, they are all very needy women (with the possible exception of Janelle, who entered the relationship with no poly history).  It would take an exceptional monogamous male to fill each of their bottomless cups, OR, it may be the poly circumstances that brings out jealousy and resentments that they suffer.

We have seen the Dargers in action, and there must be other poly families that can work in harmony.  It seems that the responsibility for a fulfilling life for all rests on how the male conducts himself and enables the females to be contented and the achieve their greatest individual potential.  Kody doesn't cut it.

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Tuxcat

Tuxcat

4 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Another clip:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNx5sugLbU9/

Don't get be wrong but I'm a little bit on Kody's side with this clip. The constant analysis of their fillings and group dynamics. The constant struggle to all get on the same page. The constant therapy sessions. Always dissecting their communication styles but NEVER actually communicating. I'd be done too on this one.

Though he is mostly to blame as he didn't nurture the individual relationships and honor those fillings. If they each felt honored individually - all this group work would be much more successful.

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Sandy W

Sandy W

I have avidly watched all 12 seasons of this show and have yet to have an answer to the original reason I started watching.  My original curiosity was prompted by my need to know WHY?  Why would anyone choose this lifestyle over monogamy and for the first season, I went along with the premise that they felt a religious calling.  As time went on, it became apparent that their convictions had little to do with their belief system and more to do with habit and modeling their parent's roles in life.

It seems that all of them were educated in the public school systems, they were not shielded in a cult away from outside influences.  Did they not watch TV, read newspapers, know any monogamists, to realize that 99.9% of the population can live fulfilling lives without the benefit of polygamy?  

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Pickleinthemiddle

Pickleinthemiddle

2 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Don't get be wrong but I'm a little bit on Kody's side with this clip. The constant analysis of their fillings and group dynamics. The constant struggle to all get on the same page. The constant therapy sessions. Always dissecting their communication styles but NEVER actually communicating. I'd be done too on this one.

Though he is mostly to blame as he didn't nurture the individual relationships and honor those fillings. If they each felt honored individually - all this group work would be much more successful.

True.  Also for polygamy to work you have to treat all wives and children equally.  When you have two wives who are not happy, maybe you are not treating them the same.  Then trying to blame their unhappiness on them, instead of your actions, well that's pretty cold.

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WhatAmIWatching

WhatAmIWatching

3 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Individually, they are all very needy women (with the possible exception of Janelle, who entered the relationship with no poly history).  It would take an exceptional monogamous male to fill each of their bottomless cups, OR, it may be the poly circumstances that brings out jealousy and resentments that they suffer.

We have seen the Dargers in action, and there must be other poly families that can work in harmony.  It seems that the responsibility for a fulfilling life for all rests on how the male conducts himself and enables the females to be contented and the achieve their greatest individual potential.  Kody doesn't cut it.

 

I see what you're saying and agree, and if any of the of the wives start talking about the state of their love tanks, ala Vicky G, I will have to drive across the country to hand out some throat punches.


It's just that, it's also been 20+ years for 3 wives, and what? over 10 for the chinny-chin-chin? I would think, by now, the wives would have realized that Kootie isn't up to it, or doesn't give a hoot, and would have found coping skills and ways to peacefully co-exist, and maybe even find ways to enjoy and emotionally support each other, without everything resting on Kody's Festivus pole.  After all, they're having to spend not only this life with each other, but eternity, too. Aren't their edges smoothed out yet?

 It's like a group project at work or school. There's always that one slacker that won't do their part, or does subpar work, so everyone else pulls together to get that good grade anyway. Sure, there's lots of complaining at first, but then you get on with it. These ppl seem stuck in the complaining part.

My husband is a fixer, but I'm one who likes to vent my spleen when I feel like I've been wronged by someone. I've learned, over the years, that if I need him to actually *do* something, I'll tell him about it. If I want to parse and analyze every word and facial expression ad nauseam, I hit up my sister, or girlfriends, who enjoy that as much as I do. It's not that my husband isn't supportive, we just are viewing how to deal with an issue differently. But then, we're monogamists, so we're probably doing it wrong.

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ginger90

ginger90

2 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

It asks me to login to watch the clip. Not on Instagram, and not going to sign up just to watch these clowns! Guess I'll have more to watch tonight....

That’s strange because it’s a public Instagram. Something must have changed.

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Roslyn

Roslyn

11 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Can someone do me a favor?

Put TLC Instagram in google, or whatever search engine you use. Then click on a link to it and see if it does the same thing.

Thanks!

It takes me right to TLC's page with all the posts.  It only has "log in/sign up" up at the top right.

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Gramto6

Gramto6

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Can someone do me a favor?

Put TLC Instagram in google, or whatever search engine you use. Then click on a link to it and see if it does the same thing.

Thanks!

On Bing TLC Instagram takes me to the links, but if I put in TLC Instagram Sister Wives, I have to log in. Odd...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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WhatAmIWatching

WhatAmIWatching

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Can someone do me a favor?

Put TLC Instagram in google, or whatever search engine you use. Then click on a link to it and see if it does the same thing.

Thanks!

I'm on mobile, and safari takes me straight to a log in page.

Did they do another update to force people to sign up?

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ginger90

ginger90

8 hours ago, WhatAmIWatching said:

I'm on mobile, and safari takes me straight to a log in page.

Did they do another update to force people to sign up?

I’m wondering if it’s because it’s linked from here. No clue. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Rabbit Hutch

Rabbit Hutch

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26 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I’m wondering if it’s because it’s linked from here. No clue. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I'm on my cellphone and when I click on the link it takes me to the clip.  When I click on it the clip begins immediately.  🤷 😁

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LilyD

LilyD

12 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Axel was mentioned in another thread also. Figured I’d go for it:

 

Here’s an article about it:

https://www.asha.org/public/speech/disorders/childhood-apraxia-of-speech/

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Yes, I just read that post. It was from someone wondering whether there was a (genetic) relation between Evie having Fatco and her older brother who had something as well. 

As far as I'm aware Fatco has a genetic cause, meaning that it somehow runs in the family. A disease like this can be passed on for generations (those people being healthy but carriers) and won't show its ugly head until a carrier meets someone who happens to be a carrier too. You usually don't know until the birth of a child. (This is the simple version, I decided not to elaborate on this too much in this post)

As for Apraxia: Axel seems to be having Congenital Apraxia, meaning he was born with it. This case of Apraxia is less common. Most cases of Apraxia find their origin in strokes, brain tumors etc. I have never paid much attention to Axel's speech but maybe I should...

I checked my reference books but from what I read, the cause for the congenital form is unknown.  It seems to be a case of bad luck, to have 2 kids with disabilities (but in Axel's case a minor one)

 

 

 

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Elizzikra

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As far as I'm aware Fatco has a genetic cause, meaning that it somehow runs in the family. A disease like this can be passed on for generations (those people being healthy but carriers) and won't show its ugly head until a carrier meets someone who happens to be a carrier too. You usually don't know until the birth of a child. (This is the simple version, I decided not to elaborate on this too much in this post)

I thought it was caused by a genetic mutation, meaning that it wasn't passed through families but was just luck of the draw.

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LilyD

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1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

I thought it was caused by a genetic mutation, meaning that it wasn't passed through families but was just luck of the draw.

You are partly right: if neither parent has the gene for this specific disease, it is caused by a spontaneous mutation. This is rare, but it can happen. 

So it comes to this: Do Maddie and/or  Caleb carry this gene or was it a spontaneous mutation? If it proves to be genetic, then not all kids necessarily have to have it. With genetic diseases, kids can either be affected, a carrier or unaffected.  If they are thinking about a third child, it would be very wise to check whether they are carrying the gene... 

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Roslyn

Roslyn

37 minutes ago, LilyD said:

So it comes to this: Do Maddie and/or  Caleb carry this gene or was it a spontaneous mutation? If it proves to be genetic, then not all kids necessarily have to have it. With genetic diseases, kids can either be affected, a carrier or unaffected.  If they are thinking about a third child, it would be very wise to check whether they are carrying the gene... 

Especially since Caleb said that he wants "lots" of kids.

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