S13.E05: Sutton-ly Suspicious

[jewel21]

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Still reeling from their tense exchange, Sutton isn't horsing around when she brings up rumors about Kyle's marriage. Erika comes to terms with her painful past during a tense visit from her mom. Crystal gets a tough talking to about her control issues with her brother. Garcelle throws a star-studded screening for her new movie, which is a night of celebration and major frustration for some of the ladies.

Airdate: 11/22/2023

Reminder: Real time events that have happened are spoilers until they occur in episode time.  Please continue to discuss those events in the respective housewife's thread or in the media thread.

[RoseAllDay]

The only person stirred up at Sutton’s was Kyle. Sutton, overall, handled that pretty well, IMO. Sutton is right…Kyle goes after everybody else to keep the heat off herself.

Sutton should have given her a big push out the door via the backside.

[Keywestclubkid]

Wait did we just hop a private plane to another country to see a horse with Jennifer Tilly? 

[WaltersHair]

That scene should have gone like this:

Jennifer Tilly: "Kyle has been good to you (many times)"

Sutton: NAME EM

[Stats Queen]

What a beautiful horse.

[Emmeline]

Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

Wait did we just hop a private plane to another country to see a horse with Jennifer Tilly? 

I thought she had the horse brought to CA.  

[Keywestclubkid]

Erika bringing her mom on to humanize her lol her PR team is working overtime this season to course correct 

[RoseAllDay]

Erika…a bitch even to her mother.

Nice.

Oh, and can we have a moment of silence because she can only afford to have a cleaning lady one day a week? 😓GTFO.

[Keywestclubkid]

1 minute ago, Emmeline said:

I thought she had the horse brought to CA.  

Flying to go see a horse you randomly bought with Jennifer Tilly tho this is what this show used to be .. Lisa V kinda money and randomness 

[RoseAllDay]

1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Erika bringing her mom on to humanize her lol her PR team is working overtime this season to course correct 

Well, she sure didn’t do herself any favors just now.

[Keywestclubkid]

Ugh that ugly bottle of tequila from girls trip I always spot now when anyone flashes a bar 

[Emmeline]

Kyle with her hats, ugh.  Dorit is milking her drama from last season for all its worth.  Erika’s hair is a mess.

[Stats Queen]

Yes, Erika, Garcelle’s son is a class act but you have no class.

[RoseAllDay]

DENISE!

[QQQQ]

I guess Crystal saying she saw Erika in a different light and more open is a polite way to describe her being spread eagle on the Magic Mike stage in Vegas 🤔 

Edited November 23, 2023 by QQQQ

[RoseAllDay]

1 minute ago, Stats Queen said:

Yes, Erika, Garcelle’s son is a class act but you have no class.

How is it that she is never held to account for anything? 

[Keywestclubkid]

Well I take it back … girl this is why she doesn’t trust you 

[RoseAllDay]

Kyle knows that Sutton is on to her —  Sutton sits down and 30 seconds later Ms. Perfect is the one who’s carrying on. Dorit was kind of bullying Garcelle, too. There was a definite edge to that conversation.

They just love grinding those axes…

[SnarkAttack]

Sutton's house, the outside, confuses me.  So much concrete.

Garcelle's kids (and friends) should have been more dressed up IMHO at the screening.

Glad Garcelle mentioned the robbery to Dorit and that she wouldn't say to Dorit, "it's been a year, you should be over it."  

I get Kyle's exercise obsession.  I was that way for a bit, felt I'd lose what I had gained if I missed even one workout.

 

[Straycat80]

Is it just me or is Crystal more boring than usual? Her storyline this season seems to be her brother. 
Maybe if Erika cut down on glam squad, high end clothes, jewelry and rubber suits , she could afford a house cleaner more than once a week. 
And  she needs to have her landlord power wash the moss on the outside of her house.

Wasn’t Dorito late for some event because she was taking Insta pictures? She should not have gotten upset with Sutton for doing the same.

Garcelle is friends with Larsa Pippen? Yuck! That was so mature of Garcelle’s son to set things right with Erika. Garcelle is a good Mom. 

Edited November 23, 2023 by Straycat80

[goofygirl]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Flying to go see a horse you randomly bought with Jennifer Tilly tho this is what this show used to be .. Lisa V kinda money and randomness 

It's worse than that! I thought she bought the horse on the internet!  No telling where he was, he ended up in Ca.  I noticed he had a stable supervisor AND a trainer.  

[Keywestclubkid]

1 minute ago, goofygirl said:

It's worse than that! I thought she bought the horse on the internet!  No telling where he was, he ended up in Ca.  I noticed he had a stable supervisor AND a trainer.  

Remember when Vanderpump went randomly hunting for her mini horse that season lol 

[goofygirl]

Yep, probably found that tiny horse on the internet too!

My cousin works with a rescue group for a certain breed of dog.  She will drive 500 miles to rescue a dog! This is all done via internet.  I just never thought HORSES were on the internet for sale.  I must be a moron!

[Pi237]

I don’t get Sutton or Kyle. They seem to be talking in code.  They’re both being weird. Maybe Sutton’s friendship with Kathy really is why Kyle’s being rough with her this season.  That’s all off screen and that might explain the oddness.  

But Sutton criticizing Kyle’s weight loss while walking on those twiggy legs of hers, plus basically trying to bait her into drinking so she’ll be fun again, is Really F’d up. Plus, she’s dying to get the cheating rumors out yet saying Kyle’s the reason their friendship is fake? Strange. And she was Off that day. They’re both Off.
 

also getting sick of all the talking, the one on one chats to repeat previous conversations and then apologize all over each other. It’s tedious. 

[goofygirl]

And B-O-R-I-N-G!

[Pi237]

Denise was premiering her new face.  She losing her eyes.

Love Garcelle and her boys are sweet, but Jax is showing he studied for reality tv, first that scene on the beach, and now his 'confrontation'. With Erica.  Don't do it, Jax. Don't get sucked in!  

What were those green appetizers? was that a big glob of guacamole on toast?

[BusyOctober]

Dorit always has to make this show about Dorit.  Her fake jump scare with the camera at Garcelle’s screening? COME ON!  Dorit and PK, the part time Jabba the Hutt impersonator,  live to be in front of cameras. Dorit has been on this show long enough to know when there’s event, there will be cameras there to film it.  She knew that camera was filming her!  She has to keep making reference to her multiple robbery cases and now she’s afraid of crowds?  Where was this  fear in Vegas at the Magic Mike show or the various restaurants and bars filled with crowds?  She made fun of Sutton when Sutton mentioned her anxiety attack for Rinna’s useless daughters’ “store opening”.  Dorit was extremely late for Teddy’s event and for lunch with someone else. Dorit’s PTSD has no time limit but she can tell Garcelle her hurt feelings over how Dorit, Kyle and Erika treated Jax have reached the statute of limitation?  Fuck you very much Dorit.

Erika is such a despicable person.  No warmth, no humanity, no empathy.  I have no interest in her at all.  

[hoodooznoodooz]

I LOOOOVE Sutton telling Kyle, “You

seem unhinged.”

[Stats Queen]

10 minutes ago, BusyOctober said:

Dorit and PK, the part time Jabba the Hutt impersonator

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[hoodooznoodooz]

“Sutton is out of her mind right now,” Kyle tells us in a confessional, after which we watch Sutton calmly and politely offer to walk her out. Then we hear Kyle slam the door. 

Edited November 25, 2023 by hoodooznoodooz

[princelina]

4 hours ago, QQQQ said:

I guess Crystal saying she saw Erika in a different light and more open is a polite way to describe her being spread eagle on the Magic Mike stage in Vegas 🤔 

And her saying she wants to help others see Erika in a better light = Crystal had a blast and wants to do it again! 😂

2 hours ago, Pi237 said:

I don’t get Sutton or Kyle. They seem to be talking in code.  They’re both being weird.

Exactly!  They are totally talking in code

2 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Love Garcelle and her boys are sweet, but Jax is showing he studied for reality tv, first that scene on the beach, and now his 'confrontation'. With Erica.  Don't do it, Jax. Don't get sucked in!  

I'd say "Good job Jax!  If your mom is going to exploit you for RH fame, you'd better study up and learn the game!"  He's doing it very well 👍

[funnygirl]

Great to see Denise Richards, again! 

Sutton has Kyle's number, and Kyle knows it and doesn't like it. I think Kyle looks at Sutton as "weak", so she zeros in on her as the proverbial punching bag to deflect from what's really going on in her own life. Fortunately, Sutton is speaking up and pushing back. 

Kyle is not a victim. Like, good for her that she's stopped drinking and has made some lifestyle changes. But, also, she's having a midlife crisis and the closer these women (mostly Sutton, as of now) get to the truth about Kyle and her new young lover, the more Kyle is going to unravel. 

[dancingdreamer]

Ranger Kyle( stupid hat) doesn't  look good to me. I know Sutton  has always  been thin, but Kyle hasn't, she's  lost weight  on her face and her arms.I hope she doesn't  get too much thinner. I like Sutton,  I always have. I know she suffers with anxiety,  which is sometimes  crippling. That brings  me to Dorit, seriously,  the jumping because  she's in a crowd? Oh please, you don't  have a storyline. 

Erika really  is a beyotch,  she'll  never change, plus she's  a beyotch  to her own mother.

Garcelle boys are lovely,  and her movie looks important.  I love her.

It was lovely  to see Denise, I felt sosorry for her when they all piled on her, and then pretended  to be shook. Sutton  is lucky to have a horse,  what a beauty, he's nearly the same price. of two of those teeny overpriced  purses

[CrinkleCutCat]

Sutton is definitely Kyle’s punching bag, because Sutton won’t bite back too hard. Easy target. Kyle would never take out her aggression on Garcelle or Erika. 
 

What gives Kyle the right to act like a toddler and rain down on Sutton so hard? I wish Sutton could find her words faster and tell Kyle to cut it out. Why is Sutton allowing Kyle to be so aggressive with her? It can’t just be Southern manners, surely?

Edited November 23, 2023 by CrinkleCutCat

[Talented Tenth]

8 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

The only person stirred up at Sutton’s was Kyle. Sutton, overall, handled that pretty well, IMO. Sutton is right…Kyle goes after everybody else to keep the heat off herself.

Sutton should have given her a big push out the door via the backside.

"Name 'em" 7 times and refusing to let someone speak while being inebriated isn't handling something "pretty well".

[RoseAllDay]

6 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Is it just me or is Crystal more boring than usual? Her storyline this season seems to be her brother. 
Maybe if Erika cut down on glam squad, high end clothes, jewelry and rubber suits , she could afford a house cleaner more than once a week. 
And  she needs to have her landlord power wash the moss on the outside of her house.

Wasn’t Dorito late for some event because she was taking Insta pictures? She should not have gotten upset with Sutton for doing the same.

Garcelle is friends with Larsa Pippen? Yuck! That was so mature of Garcelle’s son to set things right with Erika. Garcelle is a good Mom. 

How old is Crystal’s brother? Let him live his life! The poor man is miserable and Crystal just shrugs her shoulders. Rob has more empathy. Once again, Crystal just stands around, doing nothing, but she seems to be Erika’s wingman now? That truce she arranged with Jax and Erika was cringeworthy, and once again the kid showed more class than the washed-up Bada-Bing stripper.

Yes, when Teddi was running her “wellness” scam retreat, Dorit was doing a photo shoot and was late to yoga or something and Ms. Perfect Kyle jumped her shit for it. I’m loving seeing the tables turning on Kyle this season. Never seen her so defensive and screamy right out of the gate. Thanks, Sutton.

Erika pleading poverty really grinds my gears. I would LOVE it if her mom could be the new Lois. That woman can obviously put Ms, Pat the Puss in her place. I liked her.

Garcelle is a good mom. Jax (no matter his current beef with her) shows that. 

More Denise, please. At least it wasn’t Teddi.

8 minutes ago, Talented Tenth said:

"Name 'em" 7 times and refusing to let someone speak while being inebriated isn't handling something "pretty well".

When someone comes into her house and acts like an asshole, Sutton can respond however she pleases, IMO, and Sutton hasn’t been the only one to mock others’ behavior. After awhile she was just goading Kyle for the reaction, and seemed to be enjoying it.

Sutton tried to be civil at the party, but once again Kyle went straight on the defensive.

[RoseAllDay]

3 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

Ranger Kyle( stupid hat) doesn't  look good to me. I know Sutton  has always  been thin, but Kyle hasn't, she's  lost weight  on her face and her arms.I hope she doesn't  get too much thinner. I like Sutton,  I always have. I know she suffers with anxiety,  which is sometimes  crippling. That brings  me to Dorit, seriously,  the jumping because  she's in a crowd? Oh please, you don't  have a storyline. 

Erika really  is a beyotch,  she'll  never change, plus she's  a beyotch  to her own mother.

Garcelle boys are lovely,  and her movie looks important.  I love her.

It was lovely  to see Denise, I felt sosorry for her when they all piled on her, and then pretended  to be shook. Sutton  is lucky to have a horse,  what a beauty, he's nearly the same price. of two of those teeny overpriced  purses

The constant working out is probably the reason why Kyle looks so thin, plus not drinking, and since she’s not drinking, she’s replacing that with exercise, probably. She’s not the first to do that…I’ve known people like that. Plus, if her marriage is imploding, that is stressful, obviously.

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

“Sutton is out of her mind right now,” Kyle tells us in a confessional, after which we watch Sutton calmly and politely offer to walk her out.

Once again with the mental health “diagnosis.” Okay, Kyle, I’ll play…project much?

Edited November 23, 2023 by RoseAllDay

[hoodooznoodooz]

Erika’s mom says something that makes Erika uncomfortable. Erika shuts her down. Her mom withdraws.
 

Thank you for the decades of stellar parenting.

Edited November 25, 2023 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

I used to come here and read about what a horrid person Kyle was. I used to think, “She’s not that bad.”

But she is. She is that bad. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Jeff’s life is interesting to me, so I am willing to let Crystal appear on my screen in order to learn more about that. Crystal’s son is playing to the camera, and even looks right at the lens. 
 

I just googled “Annie” and “Back to the  Future,” and was surprised to learn that Rob had nothing to do with them.

Elbows off the table, Crystal, please.

When Crystal smiles, she looks adorable. When she’s not smiling, she looks REALLY mean.

Edited November 30, 2023 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

Sutton’s legs looked amazing in those black pleather (?) pants.

 

 

 

[RoseAllDay]

1 minute ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Sutton’s legs looked amazing in those black pleather (?) pants.

 

 

 

Sutton looked amazing, period. At first I thought she cut her hair. Shorter hair would look good on her.

33 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Erika’s mom says something that makes Erika uncomfortable. Erika shuts her down. Her mom retreats. 
 

Thank you for the decades of stellar parenting.

Sometimes it’s just not worth it to engage.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I actually thought a horse would cost much, much more. 
 

And I’ve never heard anyone say, “What an ugly horse.”
 

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

That flashback of Sutton, Diana and Kyle. Kyle is really quite physically rough with Sutton. She grabs her and squeezes her arms. You can see how tightly she’s grabbing Sutton. It’s extreme. But Kyle still believes that Sutton’s the one who overreacts. 

[65mickey]

Sutton looks beautiful at the screening.  She looks good in pants. Is Erika's mom the woman who raised her son after she dumped him and went to Hollywood looking for a career, um you know find a rich sugar daddy.

The best way to get to Kyle is to refuse to react. She has had a lot of practice goading people including her sisters, and co-workers into fights. While Sutton isn't use to this to this kind of interaction and she comes off as weird and awkward. But maybe she is learning to play the game.

Edited November 23, 2023 by 65mickey

[Chicklet]

Yea I have mother-induced anxiety and Erika and her mother just made for a lovely trip down memory lane, thanks ladies. Not that I entirely blame her mother, Erika is a witch, but her mother doesn't sound like a stellar parent.

I am not buying what you are selling Erika- her not being enraged by any other women. This is just a new and different way to get attention.

Kyle needs a therapist and some medication but glad she's not drinking. I really hate that the other women complain about her not drinking. I just wish she hadn't yelled at them when they said that because it makes it sound like she misses drinking and resents having to be sober. That said, she's no treat sober.

Sutton needs to chill out and not let Kyle push her buttons so much.  The continual "name them" was annoying to me, so I'm sure it made Kyle mad. Just disengage, but then that's not what the producers want. The argument confused me a lot.

[Mindthinkr]

    I thought Kyle was rude wearing a hat to a screening. I hope the people behind her could see the movie. At the very least she should have taken it off for the movie. Also, what was the single match that was placed in the headband? 
    Sutton cracked me up when she wondered if Hermes made a western saddle. Is she going to ride that new gelding or is he for someone else to show? He looks like he might be a handful. 
   Denise looked so different. She also looked a bit off as in a bit loopy. I wasn’t a fan of her tight bun on the top of her head. Almost too severe for her new face. 

[Slakkie]

Trying so hard to understand this scenario.  Sutton is being insinuated to be an alcoholic but yet is able to be present in all activities and actually converse vs last year Erika and her alcohol and meds was "good fun" and "glad she is letting loose"

FFF just keep it on.  And to be fair I probably have less than 10 drinks in a year but I can tell you living in the south these women can put down alcohol like a you have never seen.  And frankly who cares?  There is nothing immoral about drinking but now Teddi's comments on WWHL sure make sense.

These women are POS mostly Kyle.  She is just an awful person.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Slakkie

[Pi237]

So many toxic moms on these shows!  I was super lucky, mine is awesome. I can't imagine counting the minutes until she left my house, let alone publicly announcing that on tv.  Probably why I'd make a Very boring Housewife. 

So, Crystal and her mom made her brother move to the states and abandon his fiance?  That's COLD.  

[wallies]

Erika wants to be one of the Incredibles in her rubber suits.

The only one spending money Housewives-style is Sutton.

Has Garcelle summoned Beetlejuice yet with her reddish-purple hair and black-and-white stripe outfits? Maybe he can straighten out these bitches.

Kyle gets all flamey-eyed and defensive when asked a simple question. Sutton - "How are you?" Kyle - "How DARE you??"

Every time Dorit opens her mouth there's a tiny violin inside.

Crystal who?