S10.11: Mistress In Distress

[ZettaK]

Back in Los Angeles, Lala celebrates her birthday with an epic party; Raquel sets her sights on Oliver after being rejected by Schwartz; Tom and Ariana discuss their plans to make embryos together; Ally and James witness a suspicious interaction.

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Edited April 20, 2023 by ZettaK

[bosawks]

Of all the shocking things that have happened this season the fact that Sandoval pays someone to do those nails of his has me shook.

[ZettaK]

The way Sandoval looks at Raquel at SUR....

[Emmeline]

5 minutes ago, bosawks said:

Of all the shocking things that have happened this season the fact that Sandoval pays someone to do those nails of his has me shook.

Agreed, I can’t stop looking at them when he’s on the screen.

Don’t the Tom’s have a chef?  Why were they talking about the Kitchen Manager making food?  They have been working on that restaurant for how long and they don’t already have these things in place?

[Jennifersdc]

Wow. I’m 20 minutes in. Sandoval has no way or redeeming himself. They were definitely fucking at this point. What a smarmy narcissistic asshole.

Way to fuck up your life dude. Though I certainly wouldn’t have foreseen chucklefuckery making it to The NY Times. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer person. No tears here.

[ZettaK]

5 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

Agreed, I can’t stop looking at them when he’s on the screen.

Don’t the Tom’s have a chef?  Why were they talking about the Kitchen Manager making food?  They have been working on that restaurant for how long and they don’t already have these things in place?

Sandoval called him a chef later on. 

[FlyingEgret]

So glad Lala finally learned the definition of "mistress"

[bosawks]

I actually believe Schwartz is working harder than Sandoval.

Even with everything else going on with him you would think that this at least would have him rethink his life choices.

 

[Steph J]

7 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

So glad Lala finally learned the definition of "mistress"

Honestly, all this righteous anger from her about other women being mistresses is so rich it makes my teeth hurt.

And, really, if we didn't know about the Scandoval of it all, Rachel making out with Oliver while having the honest belief that he was in the midst of divorcing his wife would not be at all comparable to Lala openly flaunting her relationship with Randall and viciously taunting his wife.

Literally laughed out loud when Schwartz assumed Katie was going to let him emotionally unload on her and she was like, "That sucks, bye" and then left.

Edited April 20, 2023 by Steph J

[FlyingEgret]

So... apparently Raquel's one rule is she won't hook up with married men... sorry Ariana (but I still think she is better off without Sandy)

[Jennifersdc]

12 minutes ago, bosawks said:

I actually believe Schwartz is working harder than Sandoval.

Even with everything else going on with him you would think that this at least would have him rethink his life choices.

 

I’m shook that Schwartz actually stood up to Sandoval. 

But more importantly 49 minutes in. Holy fucking shit - Ally of all people is the first to call out Sandoval and Raquel. 

And Lala seems to live in a garden apartment. A very nice one - but still. I assume it’s some sort of courtyard ala Melrose Place? We don’t have those in DC.
 

[goofygirl]

I think we're seeing Rachel for who she really is starting to be (for the rest of us) when she's jacking with Oliver and what a jackhole HE is, while she strolls away into Katy's party.  Sandoval's thoughts that Katy is VINDICTIVE is hilariousl

Here we go... Rachel's apologizing about being a "mistress" with Lala.  This is really quite a reflection for what's coming.  I think Rachel has some serious SERIOUS personality problems.

It's only going downhill for her and she is either a) malicious bitch or b) completely self unaware.

Before we get to Sandoval's ass-ness.  This girl has MAJOR problems.  Some visit to some $1300/night self-help spa resort is NOT the major help she needs.  Calling a real-life, competent Medical doctor of Psychiatry is more than needed for this stunted, weird, unempathic woman.

[bosawks]

I don’t think that “Whatever, dude” is quite the riposte that Sandoval thinks it is.

[Dirtybubble]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Back in Los Angeles, Lala celebrates her birthday with an epic party; Raquel sets her sights on Oliver after being rejected by Schwartz; Tom and Ariana discuss their plans to make embryos together; Ally and James witness a suspicious interaction.

Thanks for starting this thread!  Life got in the way today 

[ZettaK]

Ally saw Sandoval and Raquel dancing at The Abbey at 1am. Ally didn't like it, James didn't think it was suspicious....

And Katie thinks Raquel is going after Sandoval!

Raquel has a problem dating a married guy, but not one who is in a long term relationship!

Satchel! 

Sandoval thinks Ariana is not understanding, and she thinks he is an idiot. 

[bosawks]

Sandoval pretty much stated that he cares more about his band and his nails than he does his mom’s retirement money that she invested.

Quite the prize, that one….

[Emmeline]

9 minutes ago, bosawks said:

Sandoval pretty much stated that he cares more about his band and his nails than he does his mom’s retirement money that she invested.

Quite the prize, that one….

I don’t really understand why the Tom’s aren’t at the restaurant everyday for 8 plus hours.

[lili45]

1 minute ago, Emmeline said:

I don’t really understand why the Tom’s aren’t at the restaurant everyday for 8 plus hours.

And in the restaurant world, people tend to work very long shifts, often doubles. These two are not working hard enough!

[ZettaK]

16 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

I don’t really understand why the Tom’s aren’t at the restaurant everyday for 8 plus hours.

What's the point? It's not open, and they are not the workers who renovate it.

[princelina]

1 hour ago, Steph J said:

And, really, if we didn't know about the Scandoval of it all, Rachel making out with Oliver while having the honest belief that he was in the midst of divorcing his wife would not be at all comparable to Lala openly flaunting her relationship with Randall and viciously taunting his wife.

Especially when "Lala" was wanting to make out with him herself! 😄

1 hour ago, goofygirl said:

Here we go... Rachel's apologizing about being a "mistress" with Lala.  This is really quite a reflection for what's coming.  I think Rachel has some serious SERIOUS personality problems.

It's only going downhill for her and she is either a) malicious bitch or b) completely self unaware.

Makes you wonder if her REAL understanding about "mistresses" was the fact that she had become one!

36 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

I don’t really understand why the Tom’s aren’t at the restaurant everyday for 8 plus hours.

IMO storyline.  Or else I would say I don't understand why their restaurant problems are causing Lisa "anxiety".

BTW:  "Hi, I'm Satchel!"  "I'm 'Lala'!"  Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

 

ETA:  The one thing I notice about Satchel (besides his stupid name) amongst all of these aging idiots is how young he looks!

Edited April 20, 2023 by princelina

[ZettaK]

15 minutes ago, princelina said:

ETA:  The one thing I notice about Satchel (besides his stupid name) amongst all of these aging idiots is how young he looks!

Katie said at one point he was 25, didn't she?

At a Never Before Scene of the previous episode, Sandoval, Ariana, and Raquel are huddled together at Scheana's pool in the Mexico hotel, somebody took photos, and they all said that those shouldn't be seen by anybody (it looked like a threesome). And then Sandoval looked at Raquel in a suggestive way.

Edited April 20, 2023 by ZettaK

[Jennifersdc]

Just finished episode.

Oh Raquel. It might be time to change your name and move to Idaho. 

As mentioned above by posters numerous times - she’s really enjoying the spotlight as the new “star” of Vanderpump Rules. It’s not going to work out for her the way she thinks. She’s pretty clueless. 

Not even sure what to say about Satchel.

 

[goofygirl]

14 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Katie said at one point he was 25, didn't she?

At a Never Before Scene of the previous episode, Sandoval, Ariana, and Raquel are huddled together at Scheana's pool in the Mexico hotel, somebody took photos, and they all said that those shouldn't be seen by anybody (it looked like a threesome). And then Sandoval looked at Raquel in a suggestive way.

Where's that damn vomit emoji when you need it??

 

And seriously,  if Rachel wants to work with kiddos and be an Occupational Therapist, she sure as HELL is gonna have to move to Idaho, Iowa, Missouri or Montana.  Not saying these states don't get VPR on the cable but they MIGHT give her a chance.  Have a friend who is trying to get in OTR school right now and she had TWO interviews with the faculty of the school.  She needed 5 letters of recommendation and a background of work for 3 years as a OT assistant.

YAY! She got in.

She's gonna make about  $85-125K a year when she graduates. In small towns of Texas.

Obviously, the D-list reality shows pay more $$$ but exactly how LONG does it last?  And if you're spending the big money living in WeHo, getting the whole body business (nails,hair, eyebrows, botox) how can you save any money for life AFTER d-list reality teevee?? Just curious.

Not to mention all the psychotherapy..... 

Edited April 20, 2023 by goofygirl

[heatherchandler]

I hate Lala.  She’s the worst.

[hoodooznoodooz]

“Sometimes you make me feel like an idiot. [Rachel never makes me feel like an idiot. She makes me feel like a genius.]”

Edited April 20, 2023 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

This marriage is good for Scheana’s self-esteem. She’s let them record her bad side at least twice this season.

[ivygirl]

4 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Sandoval called him a chef later on. 

He’s a chef the way Sandoval is a musician.

Rant incoming: Sandoval’s whole thing about a B+ being perfect really annoyed me. First of all a B+ is the very definition of not perfect. And secondly: his thing about performers being stoked if they pull off a B+? Someone tell that to my perfectionist musician ex boyfriend. AND AND AND! Get out of here with that crap anyway, Sandoval. Musicians ABSOLUTELY care. You can’t tell me that major touring acts, or even not-so-major ones—aren’t keenly aware of how much people are laying out for tickets, and recognizing that they better bring their A Game. Yeahhh not all, but most. (I just saw Depeche Mode—twice—dudes are in their 60s, just lost their close bandmate a year ago… and, in my opinion, killed it on stage.) 

Sandoval can take his smarmy excuses and shove them in the potato chip fryer. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by ivygirl
Plant, rant, whatevs

[hoodooznoodooz]

“I didn’t think it would upset Raquel that Katie called her a whore. But I think she should know what people are saying about her.”

[dancingdreamer]

Well, the chickens  are coming  home to roost. Tom is obviously  smitten with Raquel,  and I'm pretty sure they devised  a plan, that Raquel  would date other men, to help keep  their secret. Womp womp.. How's that working  out.

I don't  quite understand  the fertilized embryos  etc, if Ariana  really  doesn't  want to get pregnant. 

I enjoyed  Katie just shrugging  off Schwartz,  why should  she listen  to him whine. 

Satchel  reminded me of a very young Josh Groban, only much nerdier. 

I can't  listen to Lala, she's a legend  in her own mind,  a miss know it all, desperate  for attention. 

I love my favourite ladies, LVP and Garcelle,  I can imagine  they'd  have fun together. 

[ivygirl]

LOL at the Pump hostess telling Lisa “go right ahead” and sit where she wants IN HER OWN RESTAURANT. Does she even know who Lisa is? 🤣🤣🤣

Edited April 20, 2023 by ivygirl

[Cheezwiz]

Lots to comment on, but I can't remember much, other than Sandoval continues to be douchey. Was also surprised that Schwartz called him out about not being available to put in work on the restaurant. They are both such losers.

I don't understand the embryos thing with Ariana either. I'm sure she's probably relieved it it didn't go any further than it did.

Katie's new guy Satchel. Oh lord, he looked like a cross between Weird Al Yankovic and Kenny G. I kept expecting him to pull out an accordion or tenor sax.

RIP Rose, you were a cute mini horse.

 

[CallmeCray]

6 hours ago, bosawks said:

Of all the shocking things that have happened this season the fact that Sandoval pays someone to do those nails of his has me shook.

He should save his money - they literally look like mine did when I was in 4th grade and we’d “paint them” with White-Out during class.  Then we promptly scraped it off, of course.  It was a glorious, stinky mess.

[Tiggertoo]

That was very sad about Rosé,  the miniature horse.

I just can’t warm up to Katie.  Sour is the word that comes to mind whenever she’s on screen.

Anyone else watching on Slice in Canada and the end was cut off?  Annoying.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I’m sorry. You’re sorry. I feel bad that I said that to you. Let’s hug for a long, meaningful time. Now go away and I will go back to my birthday celebration with people I like. 

[dancingdreamer]

57 minutes ago, Tiggertoo said:

That was very sad about Rosé,  the miniature horse.

I just can’t warm up to Katie.  Sour is the word that comes to mind whenever she’s on screen.

Anyone else watching on Slice in Canada and the end was cut off?  Annoying.

Yes,  it cut off. I recorded  it again and added 5 minutes. 

I can't  warm to Katie, either.

[snarts]

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

This marriage is good for Scheana’s self-esteem. She’s let them record her bad side at least twice this season.

...after the buccal fat removal :)

Good on LVP, Ally & Katie all noticing something'd going on with Sandoval/Raquel. I'm actually surprised some of the others missed it. The way he looks at her her is so telling. Total googly eye, like the heart eyed emoji. Granted, we have the benefit of hindsight but we're also not right there hanging out with them. 

[princelina]

6 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

Satchel  reminded me of a very young Josh Groban, only much nerdier. 

I was thinking Tiny Tim 😂. I guess that means I'm a lot older than you 😄

[TattleTeeny]

Did I miss the "epic" party?

Also, I don't think one makeout with a man she didn't know was married makes Raquel a "mistress." The other shit, yes. But not that one thing.

Edited April 20, 2023 by TattleTeeny

[JenE4]

I don’t think I ever liked Katie more than with her, “That sounds awful. See ya!” Boundaries, baby!

Debbie Desperado just gave herself a new moniker! I guess Mistress in Distress really sums it all up, too!

Wow! That moment at SUR where Tom asked Raquel to come sit by him and he’s beaming at her so much that Lisa even commented, “Why do you like it so much? You’ve got a smile on your face.” That said it all! The fact that Tom looks like that when he’s near Raquel—how the hell did they hide it?!?!

Tom and Ariana’s talk on their couch really summed up everything we’ve been hearing from Tom on why he wasn’t happy. They’ll create embryos they’ll never use because she still doesn’t ever want kids. He’s saying she makes him feel stupid and annoying and unsupported. Now is she doing those things? Who knows! But we’re seeing his headspace, and that he is telling her he’s not happy in their relationship. Is this his idea of “trying to break up”?

Ally saw the night at the Abbey!! That was the night of Schwartz’s divorce party, after the rooftop bar, when Sandy and Raquel “started getting close” and it was two days after that that they kissed for the first time, by Tom’s own admission (on the Howie Mandell podcast). This also speaks to him and Schwartz saying it was an open secret and people saw things and were talking about it. ETA: I was wrong that night was at Saddle Ranch. The Abbey must have been a different night. But that means they were spotted acting inappropriately in public by multiple people in multiple locations.

Sandy and Oliver are living parallel lives here with their moms thinking they’re separated, the partners thinking they’re together, and both hooking up with Raquel. Raquel, this is “representative of who you are”! But Lala is going a bit too far here, since it very easily could have been her that Oliver had made out with in Vegas. She doesn’t know how right she is about this mistress stuff, though. Rachel did not take this as a lesson learned of not believing what the cheater is saying. Did she really believe Tom that any day now things will be over with Ariana for 7 months? What was the end game?

The preview!! It’s gossip amongst them all that “Raquel is now going after Sandoval”?!?! Why are they all in an uproar over the last month that they had no idea?!? You had all the ideas!!

Edited April 20, 2023 by JenE4

[Shauna]

9 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

Just finished episode.

Oh Raquel. It might be time to change your name and move to Idaho. 

As mentioned above by posters numerous times - she’s really enjoying the spotlight as the new “star” of Vanderpump Rules. It’s not going to work out for her the way she thinks. She’s pretty clueless. 

Not even sure what to say about Satchel.

 

Yeah, I figured she was pretty dumb when she ordered a "cheeseburger with cheese".

What a dumb ass. 

[Mr. Miner]

2 hours ago, princelina said:

I was thinking Tiny Tim 😂. I guess that means I'm a lot older than you 😄

This made me think of a quote from Jane Lynch in "A Mighty Wind" her character had appeared in porn films.

"I learned to play the ukulele in one of my last films, "Not So Tiny Tim"

Edited April 20, 2023 by Mr. Miner

[Katie W]

48 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

The preview!! It’s gossip amongst them all that “Raquel is now going after Sandoval”?!?! Why are they all in an uproar over the last month that they had no idea?!? You had all the ideas!!

It seems like the people that are bringing it up are those that are more on the periphery: Katie and Allie. Katie I'm sure is going to be seen by others as just being bitter about Raquel. But, people on the outside looking in can sometimes have more clarity about a situation that those that are more in it. 

Katie on WWHL said she wasn't completely shocked when the news came out. Lala and Andy both said in the coming episodes it's wild how people just believe Sandoval and Raquel when they said nothing was happening. 

[oakville]

2 hours ago, Tiggertoo said:

Anyone else watching on Slice in Canada and the end was cut off?  Annoying.

Yes, the show cut off in a middle of the restaurant scene.

[Lassus]

The greatest sin Tom and Raquel have committed is to make more people think that James and Lala are somehow acceptable human beings in comparison.

[Lassus]

21 minutes ago, ksutton625 said:

Katie on WWHL said she wasn't completely shocked when the news came out.

I suppose I am rather cynically fully unconvinced by anyone who says they saw this coming or knew or anything close to that.  Scheana herself said last night on WWHL that them just dancing wouldn't have given her a second thought.  (Katie not being surprised that Sandoval is a douchebag isn't really exactly the same, that's definitely unsurprising, but I mean more with specifics.)

I don't even believe this new report of two of Scheana's gays at the wedding who say they saw Tom and Raquel making out.  In my own humble opinion, all AHAs! are now simply hindsight, and people looking for interview paydays/views now in the wake.

Edited April 20, 2023 by Lassus

[Pop Tart]

1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

Tom and Ariana’s talk on their couch really summed up everything we’ve been hearing from Tom on why he wasn’t happy. They’ll create embryos they’ll never use because she still doesn’t ever want kids. He’s saying she makes him feel stupid and annoying and unsupported. Now is she doing those things? Who knows! But we’re seeing his headspace, and that he is telling her he’s not happy in their relationship. Is this his idea of “trying to break up”?

I don't doubt Tom experienced some of that, but that scene read more:

Tom: I've cheated on her, so now I must verbalize for the cameras all the reasons that make my cheating okay.

He's calculating how the cheating will make him look and he's laying the groundwork for why Ariana drove him to it.

Fits with how he's talked about their relationship since the news broke: I was unhappy, she was crazy, "she was fully in denial, and it scared me", she wanted him to fertilize the eggs, but they've never talked about it (though we just watched them discuss on camera, filmed months ago), "it's not fair" that their relationship woes were kept private on the show (though he could have talked about them ad nauseam with Schwartz any time he wanted), etc. etc. 

Sure he could have been unhappy. It happens. But he had the power to make an adult decision and end it with Ariana if he wanted out that badly. I can even understand that he's unhappy and cheated, partially because of it. But this convo last night was seemingly filmed not long after he started things up with Raquel and he's jumping into damage control mode. 

He also talks about how Ariana resisted breaking up because of their brand. That feels like a lot of projection. He didn't want to mess up his brand as "cool dude with businesses and now a rock star" reality guy so he kept it up for months. Can't remember if it was Schwartz or someone else, but they mentioned he wanted to get through the season before telling Ariana. To protect HIS brand.

[JenE4]

39 minutes ago, Pop Tart said:

I don't doubt Tom experienced some of that, but that scene read more:

Tom: I've cheated on her, so now I must verbalize for the cameras all the reasons that make my cheating okay.

He's calculating how the cheating will make him look and he's laying the groundwork for why Ariana drove him to it.

Fits with how he's talked about their relationship since the news broke: I was unhappy, she was crazy, "she was fully in denial, and it scared me", she wanted him to fertilize the eggs, but they've never talked about it (though we just watched them discuss on camera, filmed months ago), "it's not fair" that their relationship woes were kept private on the show (though he could have talked about them ad nauseam with Schwartz any time he wanted), etc. etc. 

Sure he could have been unhappy. It happens. But he had the power to make an adult decision and end it with Ariana if he wanted out that badly. I can even understand that he's unhappy and cheated, partially because of it. But this convo last night was seemingly filmed not long after he started things up with Raquel and he's jumping into damage control mode. 

He also talks about how Ariana resisted breaking up because of their brand. That feels like a lot of projection. He didn't want to mess up his brand as "cool dude with businesses and now a rock star" reality guy so he kept it up for months. Can't remember if it was Schwartz or someone else, but they mentioned he wanted to get through the season before telling Ariana. To protect HIS brand.

You might be right that it’s damage control because he was already cheating. But Ariana was completely nonplussed by everything he was saying. It didn’t seem like that was the first time they have talked about their relationship problems. It didn’t seem like she was even acknowledging his feelings or talking about how they can make some changes in how they interact with each other. Her response to his saying that she made him feel stupid and annoying was “well, you try to annoy me!” Tom kind of laughed it off. But at the same time it does seem like Ariana acts exasperated by everything he does and says in group settings. She might not be wrong that he is annoying and exasperating! But if that’s the bulk of their interactions, and Raquel supposedly thought Tom was the most amazing person whose ever walked this earth, I can see why he pulled toward one woman and away from the other. Again, I am not defending Tom!!! It just gives us a glimpse into his emotions that I didn’t think we’d actually see on this show. We got a peek behind the curtain there.

[bichonblitz]

So Ariana already has a new guy? Damn these people waste no time! I feel sorry for none of them!

What was Schwartz thinking going in to business with Sando? No brains what so ever. 

Sando's life is about to go down in flames! He's in debt up to his ass, he's about to lose his house that he re-financed because he cant afford the new mortgage and probably owes more than any profit he would have made selling it.  He's gonna lose his mom's retirement money. His band sucks so he's never going to make that a success and if he's not careful he's gonna lose his gig on this show. But....he's gotta get that manicure done because walking around with chipped polish is totally unacceptable. Priorities, people!

Katie mentioned on some podcast that she's not dating so I guess after that boy witnessed how ugly she was at Lala's party he probably ran away. 

[ZettaK]

7 hours ago, CallmeCray said:

He should save his money - they literally look like mine did when I was in 4th grade and we’d “paint them” with White-Out during class.  Then we promptly scraped it off, of course.  It was a glorious, stinky mess.

They have to look like this (not perfect on purpose) because he is the most extra, after all!

[Lassus]

15 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

What was Schwartz thinking going in to business with Sando? No brains what so ever. 

Also true in reverse.