S07.E6: Outta My System

[greekmom]

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Angela surprises Michael at his home; tensions run high at a birthday party for Elizabeth's mom; Shaeeda takes matters into her own hands; Kim challenges Usman; Liz's grandparents question Ed; Yara reaches a milestone. 

First Look: 30/9/22; TLC: 02/10/22; Discovery+: 02/10/22

[Frozendiva]

Thought both Jovi and Yara were dressed too casually for the immigration interview. All the person cared about was Mylah? Wouldn’t one put one’s marriage certificate in a home safe or other safe deposit box? Now Yara can go home to visit her family. Jovi still wants a better plan.

Mykull is learning how to swim. He may need that skill to get away from the Pirahna that is the soon to be surprising him. Guess the goofballs are still around.

Libby and family are at the Aquarium and are missing her mom’s party. The stepsisters are angry that Libbyrealla isn’t there. Why didn’t they bring their kids if Charlie did? The party is at a restaurant so folks have to behave.

Shaeeda is talking to her friend about having a baby and visiting a fertility specialist. I was distracted by her over brushing her teeth.

it is Sojaboy’s birthday party so Kim has to behave at the nightclub, apologize to his friend, and not be threatened by his platonic female friend. Tall order.

Ed and Liz go fishing with her grandparents. They grill him about his motives to marry Liz. We learn again about her two divorces by 28, her non relationship with her father and that her grandparents raised her. So some of her attraction to Ed is maybe projecting some of her daddy issues and she has found a replacement for her absent father. Yikes.

[magemaud]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Shaeeda is talking to her friend about having a baby and visiting a fertility specialist. I was distracted by her over brushing her teeth

I hate seeing people brush their teeth and all that drooling and spitting! That’s why I don’t get the  trend of having “dual vanities” so a couple can brush together. 

Liz’s grandparents were…interesting. Ed’s stupid comment about how he and Liz were having sex certainly fell flat. 

I noticed Usman was wearing his Sojaboy necklace at his birthday party.

Wouldn’t Michael be suspicious that something was going to happen with Angela since they started filming him again? 

Edited October 1, 2022 by magemaud

[Frozendiva]

I would be wondering why the TLC crew was there. He would have to sign something first. So, they lied and told him it was a 90 Day Diaries update or we are getting a fake storyline with Angela to keep this thing going.

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9 hours ago, magemaud said:

I hate seeing people brush their teeth and all that drooling and spitting! That’s why I don’t get the  trend of having “dual vanities” so a couple can brush together. 

Liz’s grandparents were…interesting. Ed’s stupid comment about how he and Liz were having sex certainly fell flat. 

I noticed Usman was wearing his Sojaboy necklace at his birthday party.

Wouldn’t Michael be suspicious that something was going to happen with Angela since they started filming him again? 

As Shaeeda admitted, dentists will tell you not to brush vigorously like you are trying to get rust off metal lol.  You would also think these people who claim to be obsessed with dental health would have moved on to an electric toothbrush, which does a far better job.

9 hours ago, magemaud said:

Liz’s grandparents were…interesting. Ed’s stupid comment about how he and Liz were having sex certainly fell flat. 

Worse, he said “‘making love.”  I don’t think the residue they leave behind is love.

[Elizzikra]

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That’s why I don’t get the  trend of having “dual vanities” so a couple can brush together. 

It's not so much built for couples to be able to brush their teeth standing beside one another, gazing lovingly into each other's eyes. It's so two people can go about getting ready for the day (or the night) simtanoeously. in the morning, I brush. He shaves, brushes and does whatever he's going to do to his hair. It works so much better for us to each have our own sink and mirror.

[magemaud]

13 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

 You would also think these people who claim to be obsessed with dental health would have moved on to an electric toothbrush, which does a far better job.

I guess the electric toothbrush makes them feel like they’re being lazy because it’s doing the work for them. Shaeeda’s going to get gum erosion for sure  

13 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Worse, he said “‘making love.”  I don’t think the residue they leave behind is love.

Oh, that’s right. That makes it sound even stupider. 

[xls]

On 9/30/2022 at 12:56 PM, greekmom said:

First Look: 30/9/22; TLC: 02/10/22; Discovery+: 02/10/22

Spoiler

There wasn't any more Angela/ Michael action than was in last weeks preview -and clear at the end of course. next  week; Michael was so violently angry  that, someone (one of his friends I think ) had to stand between them

[xls]

13 hours ago, magemaud said:

I guess the electric toothbrush makes them feel like they’re being lazy because it’s doing the work for them. Shaeeda’s going to get gum erosion for sure

She said her dentist said she was wearing the enamel off.

she has very good teeth she should get a soft bristle electric toothbrush & take it easy.

[SabineElisabeth]

The non stop verbal abuse Angela spews at Michael is so awful I can't even stand to watch their segments anymore.  Not to mention that every single talking head is another disgusting and sick attempt to try and justify her abuse by blaming Michael and claiming some great love for him.  I'm sorry, but if I were unable to stop myself from treating someone I love that way, I'd just remove myself from the relationship.  But, we all know she's full of shit.  Her abuse doesn't come from a place of love - it comes from immense insecurities / jealousy and selfishness. 

At this point, what I want to know is, why in the hell is she still on my tv?

And while I'm on the subject of couples who make me feel super uncomfortable . . . Big Ed / Liz and Bilal / Shaeeda.  Liz claims to be happy, then spends the rest of her segments low-level telling us all the reasons their relationship is still dysfunctional as fuck and that she's really not so happy.  And honestly, Bilal acts like he can't stand Shaeeda.  I don't get that relationship at all.  And the way Bilal gets mad and gives Shaeeda the "silent treatment?"  Yeah, that would be a "hell no" for me.

[gingerella]

1 hour ago, xls said:

She said her dentist said she was wearing the enamel off.

she has very good teeth she should get a soft bristle electric toothbrush & take it easy.

I just posted about this in their couples thread, but the upshot is that I think she suffers from OCD, it's very uncomfortable to watch. Like watching a nervous dog lick it's paws raw... And her solution to over brushing was to now over brush her tongue? Girl, get thee to a psychologist STAT.

Edited October 2, 2022 by gingerella

[greekmom]

So Mike needs cash from Angela because she doesn't want him to work. That's a red flag and form of control. But social media influencer is bullshit job. Get a real job.  Angela is a bully and a major bitch. She really needs to go.
 

[Back Atcha]

3 hours ago, SabineElisabeth said:

I don't get that relationship at all.  And the way Bilal gets mad and gives Shaeeda the "silent treatment?"  Yeah, that would be a "hell no" for me.

It's unfortunate that Bilal's religion, upbringing, and ego seem to give him the right to be RIGHT about everything.  His attitude.  His lectures.  His decor.  His demeaning of his wife (wives?).  His wardrobe.   His Talking Heads.   LIFE!

Edited October 2, 2022 by Back Atcha

[Back Atcha]

On 9/30/2022 at 9:35 PM, magemaud said:

I hate seeing people brush their teeth and all that drooling and spitting!

For years I was SO TIRED of this stuff on television show, movies, etc. that I decided to keep track.  It was a waste of my time.  This timewaster/filler is everywhere!  Even in the best movies.  WHO THINKS THIS IS INTERESTING...or ART?

[Mindthinkr]

2 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

For years I was SO TIRED of this stuff on television show, movies, etc. that I decided to keep track.  It was a waste of my time.  This timewaster/filler is everywhere!  Even in the best movies.  WHO THINKS THIS IS INTERESTING...or ART?

It’s not always about the content of these shows once you find a friendly snark group. 

[kristen111]

Pre- nup, baby, pre-nup, baby, pre- nup, baby.  Is this all this woman thinks about all day?  Sick of both of them;  they both are so boring.

[Elizzikra]

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So Mike needs cash from Angela because she doesn't want him to work. That's a red flag and form of control. But social media influencer is bullshit job. Get a real job.  Angela is a bully and a major bitch. She really needs to go.

Angela has said that before in talking heads - that she pays Michael NOT to work because she doesn't trust him around his friends... or any women.

[JeanJean]

5 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

It's unfortunate that Bilal's religion, upbringing, and ego seem to give him the right to be RIGHT about everything.  His attitude.  His lectures.  His decor.  His demeaning of his wife (wives?).  His wardrobe.   His Talking Heads.   LIFE!

When he gave his interpretation of what the doctor said -- "So you think we should wait" -- I think my head actually snapped forward. The doctor said nothing close to that.

And I can't take Angela's abuse anymore. I feel like I'm being abused when she starts yelling and swearing. Poor Michael. TLC should give him combat pay.

Edited October 3, 2022 by JeanJean

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20 minutes ago, JeanJean said:

When he gave his interpretation of what the doctor said -- "So you think we should wait" -- I think my head actually snapped forward. The doctor said nothing close to that.

And I can't take Angela's abuse anymore. I feel like I'm being abused when she starts yelling and swearing. Poor Michael. TLC should give him combat pay.

I wonder if the doctor also mentioned how with each year that she ages there is a higher chance of birth defects.  It’s not just about difficulty in conceiving.

[Adeejay]

So, by the age of 27, Liz was a two-time divorcee.  Maybe she should slow it down and really think about whether she wants to do this again.  

I wonder when Bilal is going to tell Shaeeda that he had a vasectomy.

I don't think Yara get will get her green card before Jovi gets back, so this topic is probably null and void.

[anoninrva]

1 hour ago, JeanJean said:

When he gave his interpretation of what the doctor said -- "So you think we should wait" -- I think my head actually snapped forward. The doctor said nothing close to that.

Yeah, Bilal trying to gaslight the fertility doctor was a bit much.  He seemed pretty diplomatic about it.  The missus and I were arguing about the short menstrual cycle.  It sounds like she's not ovulating as long as she could be, but we're not really that clear about how short her ovulation window may be.

[4Sibes Redux]

I guess I’m a prude. I don’t think it’s in anyone’s best interest to hear Angela sort of say the word “clitorus.”

[Frozendiva]

1 hour ago, Adeejay said:

So, by the age of 27, Liz was a two-time divorcee.  Maybe she should slow it down and really think about whether she wants to do this again.  

I wonder when Bilal is going to tell Shaeeda that he had a vasectomy.

I don't think Yara get will get her green card before Jovi gets back, so this topic is probably null and void.

Too bad she and Ed could not take marriage prep classes. I would not be rushing into a third marriage so soon. Reminds me of a coworker who had kids with a guy, married him years later, they built a new house that she gushed about daily, moved in, hoping to grow old sitting on the verandah. Moved in, he found someone else. She remarried about a year or so later. I gave it 2 years. 2 years and four months, divorce #2. I felt that she married the same guy as her ex and just repeated the lesson.

[Annifran]

1 hour ago, 4Sibes Redux said:

I guess I’m a prude. I don’t think it’s in anyone’s best interest to hear Angela sort of say the word “clitorus.”

It came out "clitorious."  All I could think of was how it rhymed with glorious!

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, anoninrva said:

Yeah, Bilal trying to gaslight the fertility doctor was a bit much.  He seemed pretty diplomatic about it.  The missus and I were arguing about the short menstrual cycle.  It sounds like she's not ovulating as long as she could be, but we're not really that clear about how short her ovulation window may be.

I took it to mean that she ovulates more frequently and has roughly 17 cycles per year instead of the typical 13 but even though she is fertile more often, she’s also using up her egg supply faster. I also wonder if that means her body has less time to create a welcoming environment for successful fertilization to take place. 

Didn’t we have an OB/GYN who used to post here? 

Edited October 3, 2022 by magemaud
Math!

[Craigcodybazhate]

Episode I need some help in here anybody agree. The best part of the show was the preview from Next Week Michael loses his shit. 
 

And says his famous GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not gonna lie want to watch that scene and fast forward through the Jenny Summitt Kama sutra stuff. 
 

YARA looks like a doll. Her friends are hot. And they are big haters. Yeah she wanna send YARA to Ukrain so she can bang her husband. Adele trying to get YARA outa there. 
 

blila hasn’t said a word since last season of 90 day fiancé lol he’s still contemplating if he’s gonna whup Jabris ass. 
is he still smashing shaheda? Just kidding. 
 

Big ED looks like penguin from Batman Liz looks like she is gonna bowl him like a bowling ball. 
 

Liz is  still hot but you see why she’s so attached. What was that from next week they are showing us? 
 

grrat episode. Soujaboy still a gigalo. Kimbaly is nuts. 

Great episode. 
 

so Angela you break in his house like a navy seal what did you think his reaction was gonna be???? Hi Angela how are you? Thanks for breaking in my house at night and destroying my car. 

[Craigcodybazhate]

Wait so Charlie is all ghetto for wanting to whup Andrés ass but Becky isn’t ghetto for trying to tear her sisters face off on the boat trying to Wrip her face off and then wanting to fight Andre in the trailer. 
 

they act like they are so better then Charlie. 

[Pepper Mostly]

19 hours ago, xls said:

She said her dentist said she was wearing the enamel off.

she has very good teeth she should get a soft bristle electric toothbrush & take it easy.

I love how we are, as a group, so put off by all the boring repetitive story lines and repellent, gormless, charmless characters who inhabit this hellscape that the conversation has focused on Shaeeda's oral health care routine. We are truly clutching at conversational straws!

[anoninrva]

3 hours ago, Craigcodybazhate said:

YARA looks like a doll. Her friends are hot. And they are big haters. Yeah she wanna send YARA to Ukrain so she can bang her husband. Adele trying to get YARA outa there. 

Respectfully disagree here.  Yara looks fine.  Her friends do not.  Their behavior is ugly.  Perhaps that's coloring it for me.

I don't get Usman at all.  He should just get a wife in Nigeria.  This is the first I remember hearing about him having to marry someone from a specific tribe.  That makes sense, but then, why marry Kim at all?

[bichonblitz]

Angela is disgusting. I can't help but think she reeks of cig smoke and sweat. He house is a nasty pig pen, too. Now she has a friend that smokes along with her and doesn't mind getting right in to the violence and harassing of Mikull. 

Charlie practically ruined Libby and Andrei's wedding in Moldova. Wish somebody would mention that. His behavior is indicative of a person with a major drinking problem and his wife is a trashy skank. Making $70,000 for pics of her feet on Only Fans. Seriously, what in the hell is this world coming to? 

Usman: I can have any woman I want! I'm famous! Kimberly believes it, too. 

Bilal has to know that a 37 yr old woman that wants children can not wait a few years. The time to start is now. Fool.

Yara is being a sour faced bitch. Why not wait an extra week or so till Jovi comes home from work and let the man travel with you and your baby. This is your husband. He wants to make sure you are safe. When he has to go back to work she can have an extended stay with her family then. I don't like her attitude. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by bichonblitz

[Rebky]

8 hours ago, Annifran said:

It came out "clitorious."  All I could think of was how it rhymed with glorious!

That would make a great girl band name.  After all, who can forget Russia's Pu##y Riot?? Glorious Clitorius could be their back up band!! "Ladies and Gentlemen!! What a night we have planned for you! Glorious Clitorius will warm us up for Pu##y Riot!!!!!" 

[Gobi]

12 minutes ago, Rebky said:

That would make a great girl band name.  After all, who can forget Russia's Pu##y Riot?? Glorious Clitorius could be their back up band!! "Ladies and Gentlemen!! What a night we have planned for you! Glorious Clitorius will warm us up for Pu##y Riot!!!!!" 

Or a rapper, Notorious Clitorius.

[anoninrva]

19 minutes ago, Rebky said:

That would make a great girl band name.  After all, who can forget Russia's Pu##y Riot?? Glorious Clitorius could be their back up band!! "Ladies and Gentlemen!! What a night we have planned for you! Glorious Clitorius will warm us up for Pu##y Riot!!!!!" 

But does it have WiFi?

[JeanJean]

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Angela is disgusting. I can't help but think she reeks of cig smoke and sweat. He house is a nasty pig pen, too. Now she has a friend that smokes along with her and doesn't mind getting right in to the violence and harassing of Mikull. 

Charlie practically ruined Libby and Andrei's wedding in Moldova. Wish somebody would mention that. His behavior is indicative of a person with a major drinking problem and his wife is a trashy skank. Making $70,000 for pics of her feet on Only Fans. Seriously, what in the hell is this world coming to? 

Usman: I can have any woman I want! I'm famous! Kimberly believes it, too. 

Bilal has to know that a 37 yr old woman that wants children can not wait a few years. The time to start is now. Fool.

Yara is being a sour faced bitch. Why not wait an extra week or so till Jovi comes home from work and let the man travel with you and your baby. This is your husband. He wants to make sure you are safe. When he has to go back to work she can have an extended stay with her family then. I don't like her attitude. 

I kind of cringed when Usman said, "I am an artist." Nothing I've heard of his music qualifies as art. Just my opinion.

Yara is scared for her family and friends. Anything can happen in three weeks during wartime.

[applewood]

Regarding the birthday party, doesn't Pam have seven children? Where were the other three? Or was this just a party for filming? And why didn't Jen and Becky bring their kids since Charlie brought his?

Bilal is either an idiot or this is his way of saying he doesn't want kids. The time to start trying is NOW! It could take two years just to conceive.

Liz and Ed-I have no words. They are just creepy AF.

Jovi- How do you lose a marriage certificate??? Keep it in a safe place you idiot!!!

[Welshman in Ca]

10 minutes ago, JeanJean said:

I kind of cringed when Usman said, "I am an artist." Nothing I've heard of his music qualifies as art. Just my opinion.

 

Did he say artist or musical artist? He is 100% an artist, a scam artist.

[JeanJean]

4 minutes ago, Welshman in Ca said:

Did he say artist or musical artist? He is 100% an artist, a scam artist.

I think he just said "artist." Either way, no, Usman. Not in my opinion. 

[Kid]

7 hours ago, Craigcodybazhate said:

so Angela you break in his house like a navy seal what did you think his reaction was gonna be???? Hi Angela how are you? Thanks for breaking in my house at night and destroying my car. 

She is a piece of work. And did you notice she was slurring her words in the car over to his house. She was drunk. She's an embarrassment to this entire country.

[greekmom]

I am giving 3 years for Shaeda/Bilazebub if he doesn't give her a kid. 7 years if he does.

Where Mike and the goofballs at an all inclusive in the swim scene? It looked like it because goofball had a coconut drink.

[Scout Finch]

It's a shame that Michael doesn't have a taser gun...or two (for Angela's friend, who also turns out to be an obnoxious she-beast).

I feel so sorry for anyone who had to sit near them on the airplane. Some smokers constantly smell like stale cigarette smoke is coming from every pore and I'm thinking that's the case, especially if Angela could so easily identify her new BFF during their meet cute.

[Annifran]

1 hour ago, JeanJean said:

I kind of cringed when Usman said, "I am an artist." Nothing I've heard of his music qualifies as art. Just my opinion.

Yara is scared for her family and friends. Anything can happen in three weeks during wartime.

All the more reason why Yara shouldn't go to Ukraine with the child without Jovi.  It's just too dangerous.  I wouldn't recommend she go to Prague either since her mother is unsettled at the moment.  Yara's girlfriends are anything but friends to her.  They're mean, rude and a bad influence on Yara.  

[Elizzikra]

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 I also wonder if that means her body has less time to create a welcoming environment for successful fertilization to take place. 

Now I picture a uterus with balloons and streamers and maybe a "welcome" banner?

[JeanJean]

56 minutes ago, Scout Finch said:

It's a shame that Michael doesn't have a taser gun...or two (for Angela's friend, who also turns out to be an obnoxious she-beast).

I feel so sorry for anyone who had to sit near them on the airplane. Some smokers constantly smell like stale cigarette smoke is coming from every pore and I'm thinking that's the case, especially if Angela could so easily identify her new BFF during their meet cute.

Seriously! Who starts yelling and banging on the doors and windows of a stranger based on someone they've known for 5 minutes' say-so? 

[monagatuna]

11 hours ago, magemaud said:

I took it to mean that she ovulates more frequently and has roughly 17 cycles per year instead of the typical 13 but even though she is fertile more often, she’s also using up her egg supply faster. I also wonder if that means her body has less time to create a welcoming environment for successful fertilization to take place. 

Didn’t we have an OB/GYN who used to post here? 

Uhm, I'm very much not an OB/GYN but I did have a similar conversation with my own doctor last year--I'll spare you the personal details, but what it boiled down to is that (typically, not always), women who have shorter cycles may be experiencing premenopausal symptoms. The body does go through the eggs faster because hormones are telling it to get to the baby-making, as it might be their last chance. The so-called biological clock (a term I hate for a million reasons) starts ticking faster to give more opportunities for getting pregnant NOW, when the body can handle it. It's also a time for increasing capacity for multiple births. Grain of salt, because she's only 37, but women can theoretically start going through pre-menopause at that age, it's not unheard of. I don't think there's any sort of hard-and-fast rule for age versus cycle length, but as far as I know, it seems you have it right. Either way, it seems if she's going to get pregnant without medical intervention, the time is now, not later.

[Craigcodybazhate]

All great points. 
 

Greek Mom all good stuff. 
 

Yes Yara’s friends are very superficial they are annoying as fuck. 
 

I remember last season it was YARA mad about Jovis friends well at least his friends weren’t telling him to get boob jobs. 
 

Charlie was horrible at the wedding that was a joke. He should say his actions were wrong but at some point Andres has to take accountability. 

 

ive watched the whole season Andres did a hostile takeover on thier whole real estate business. 

Very good rap name notorious clitorous.  ”haha lol.  

[Breedom]

4 hours ago, Kid said:

She's an embarrassment to this entire country.

I don't even have to capture your whole reference, we all know this to be Angela. Her "love" is violent, hateful, insecure and plain old sick. How does this beast live with herself? She needs to be kicked in the seat of her pants - hard.  Send her scurrying back to Georgia.(Note: I'm not for violence in any form, so I'll rephrase that to "give her an enormous nudge in the seat of her pants." Michael, I'm talking to you. END IT. She's not for you and she's not for anyone.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Breedom

[1011101010001]

6 hours ago, applewood said:

Jovi- How do you lose a marriage certificate??? Keep it in a safe place you idiot!!!

And they live in an apartment.  It’s not like there is a basement or attic to search.

5 hours ago, Kid said:

And did you notice she was slurring her words in the car over to his house.

I think the dentures make her sound like that all the time.  Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the dentist.

4 hours ago, Scout Finch said:

It's a shame that Michael doesn't have a taser gun...or two (for Angela's friend, who also turns out to be an obnoxious she-beast).

I feel so sorry for anyone who had to sit near them on the airplane. Some smokers constantly smell like stale cigarette smoke is coming from every pore and I'm thinking that's the case, especially if Angela could so easily identify her new BFF during their meet cute.

Imagine all the secondhand smoke the grandkids are subjected to.

3 hours ago, JeanJean said:

Seriously! Who starts yelling and banging on the doors and windows of a stranger based on someone they've known for 5 minutes' say-so? 

Would be funny if they went to the wrong house and the owner was armed.

[Frozendiva]

Why didn’t Yara’s friends recommend that she gets a proper bra fitting first? That may be a cheaper alternative to surgery. At least for now. Friends like that chip away at your self esteem. All too blonde, too much. Maybe she likes the Instagrammers in NOLA. Maybe going to the park, meeting other moms there or at an exercise class, developing some hobbies where you might meet people will help out.

Angela, one does not go and smash a car because you are angry at your spouse. Yeah, he has no time to clean up evidence of any perceived transgressions. Hopefully he will kick her to the curb and that her new guy will watch this and wonder if it is now his turn. Doubt she would get any therapy to deal with her jealousy and anger management. She treated her husband as a doormat and maybe needs to be on her own for a bit. Being riled up and surprising someone like that is not cool. Polite is one thing; misplaced rage, another.

Andreii sure lives in the heads of the Potthasts - rent-free. He is to blame for all of this. Yep, wanting healthy boundaries and less of the family dysfunction. It has worked for years and he is the troublemaker. Libby is starting to walk away from the drama. Maybe they are still trying for their own spinoff, but none are all that interesting or watchable.

Too bad Liz doesn’t have a real friend. Of course she won’t listen to anyone and will likely learn a hard and painful lesson thanks to Ed. Doubt her third marriage will last unless Ed passes young. Both are toxic and desperate.

Bilal is doing everything he can to not have a baby. Be upfront. You could have found another woman who did not want children.

Useman, find a local woman and stop getting involved with these American women who can’t have kids and don’t want a bunch of other wives and your kids from them. Plus subsidize the other families.  There are women out there who are secure enough to not care about females hitting on you. They would also wonder about your career and PR and where is your income if you claim to be an international superstar? Can you afford four wives? You may also need to look into more meaningful career options - ones that pay the bills.

[Craigcodybazhate]

These last two posts were fire. Breedom all of you. 
 

what I don’t like about the Angela character is that’s an image that people all over the world think White Women are like that. 
 

its a joke. Why do the 90 day franchise always creep into this white trash stereotype and Angela is that. 
 

The realest point of the post was the kids being exposed to second hand smoke and Angela needs to stop that. 
 

Angela is the biggest liar on the show she said she would stop smoking cigarettes when she got surgery and clearly hasn’t. 
 

she’s not an attractive person. 
 

this big white womanly Stereotype I can’t stand. 
 

I’ve been watching this show since season 1 there was a guy on Devar from Jamaica full disclosure I’m Jamaican he married a beautiful white woman from Pennsylvania and she’s a strong white woman has kids and brought Devar over he worked got his visa and they got married they had more kids and he’s still working and she was awesome in her season didn’t put him down didn’t bully him supported him and they look like a team. 
 

the show went away from that to the Jerry Springer style freak show enter Angela they want ratings and trash. I just think if you go back to the season 1 you’ll get good couples and you’ll get good ratings. 
 

Angela is a joke. 

I do think Angela has a lot of insecurity that she deals with. Probably fucked over by men. Just my opinion from observing her. That big tough girl act she’s a pussycat. 
 

I saw the look after Michael spazed out and Angela looked like oh shit I fucked up. Angela is loud because she’s trying to be a character on T.V. Now she will do whatever it takes to tell Michael she will let him have more say. 

[Breedom]

Amusing how Pa Kettle kept calling out short jokes about Ed. 

Many of the relatives of the 90 day'ers seem to be - odd looking. Any one have any normal looking and behaving, educated relatives, parents or grandparents? I'll show myself out now.