S04.E17: 60 Minutes

[Whimsy]

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Gary hits multiple roadblocks while trying to meet an important deadline, Eddie makes a surprising discovery at Katherine’s house, and Rome struggles to connect with an impressionable group of young artists.

Original airdate 4/27/22

[nexxie]

“Do you believe that you have a story to tell?”

Rome’s question is a good one for everybody to answer.

[ams1001]

Still don't understand why Maggie needs a fertility doctor at this point. How long have they even been trying? A month?

Why is a doctor's office allowing a patient to film in the waiting room? All kinds of potential privacy violations (even though there didn't seem to be anyone there).

I actually laughed out loud at the Def Leppard exchange, against my will. Child of the 80s, here.

I'm on Eddie's side; Theo's his kid, too. Not really his business who Katherine dates but if she's moving that person into the house with their son (even temporarily), he has a right to know. Though I'm glad they resolved it in the same scene and didn't drag it out. (Of course, Theo overhearing it means we're gonna get more drama from him.)

Um, children, I never had an elective class in school that didn't have actual work involved...

I really don't care about What'shername and her daughter.

Greta's driving Theo to school, now, too? Oh, he's worried about the bipolar thing, not his dad being mad. (Probably better to ask your mother, not the person she was talking about, if you're worried it's something bad.)

Hey, I finally learned What'shername's name is Val. (Don't be surprised if I'm back to calling her What'shername next week. Though I have a friend named Val so it shouldn't be so hard for me to remember.)

So what happens when traffic moves and Sophie's running down the street and Gary and his bad back can't move into the driver's seat?

Can they please make Theo act like a twelve-year-old?

I was about to type "if Gary's sterile I'm gonna laugh" and then the doctor called. (I laughed.)

Points to everyone who called Anna's drinking problem. I hope Eddie doesn't get in trouble for lying to the police. 

Edited April 28, 2022 by ams1001

[historylover820]

So, kind of mixed bag for me.

First, I do not care about Val and her daughter's drama. At all. Way too much time devoted to that. Also, does Gina and Val have the permits to set up a food truck? Did they even have permission from that school? I think it takes a little bit of time to get permits and get permissions. 

Second, glad Maggie remembered she had a job. I was beginning to wonder. I've given up on Gary's job. Did anyone else find that whole thing uncomfortable? Also, when Maggie and Gary were called by the doctor, it was clearly getting dark outside the windows. What kind of doctor's office calls with results that late?

I mean, I'm on blood thinners, and the INR clinic will call me by 5:00 if I have my tests a little bit later in the day. This is involving medication I need to live. Not checking my fertility, which could probably wait until the next day for those results.

(And, yeah, filming in a doctor's office???? NO! And then the doctor joking about it????? NO!!!!!!! So many HIPAA violations it made my mind go absolutely blank for a while!)

But.... I was impressed with the advice Gary gave Sophie. That was good advice. I think, the music teacher is dead. Let's move on.

Third, glad they didn't drag "Is Anna a murderer?" out. But, if it looks bad for Anna to be changing her alibi to "I was passed out drunk at home, and I was alone!" it also looks bad for Eddie for corroborating her alibi. Because that would put even more suspicion on her. On both of them. Obviously, Eddie couldn't have killed Peter, but was it something planned? Did he know about it? 

I mean, the detective did say that it was an accident, but if Anna changed her alibi to what really happened--passed out drunk, alone at home--then the detective's mind will start going "This must not have been an accident, because both of them lied."

Eddie, you deserve better.

Fourth, I was going through this whole episode going "Am I wrong for thinking that Katherine is NOT wrong for telling Eddie about Greta being bipolar?" Because Eddie is Theo's father--he has a right to know who is living with his son. And while I hated Theo's "joke" but his dad's alcoholism, most of the episode, I was OK with him. 

Fifth, I also thought that was a great question that Rome presented his students--"Do you believe that you have a story to tell?" Great question. 

Edited April 28, 2022 by historylover820
Thought of something

[KaveDweller]

Why did Maggie and Gary have to go to the doctor to find out if she was pregnant. Couldn't they just but a home test? Certainly see a fertility doctor if you don't get pregnant after a few months, but it has been like two weeks. And last week they didn't even have sex when the doctor said it was the optimal time because the doctor showed up with news about Peter's death.

I guess good for Sophie for posting her podcast?

Totally agreed with Eddie that he has a right to know about Greta, and was glad Katherine agreed and told Greta that.

Eddie should not have lied for Anna. That is going to come back to haunt them. Plus, there are so many people who will be able to say Anna was not there.

I was worried about Rome, but glad he turned things around with the class. And I guess it is nice that he made the kid feel so welcome/open with him, but I'm guess there is drama to come with that?

What kind of school lets a food truck park out front for kids to buy from? My high school certainly did not allow that, we were stuck with crappy cafeteria food.

[SunnyBeBe]

When people lie to the police, they don’t seem to realize that their whereabouts could be disproven by video footage from stores, houses, intersections, etc.   And, if the police were able to get a search warrant for their phone records…..well, it would show where they were, if it was on.  And, before you pick up the phone and call the police to let them know you lied….it might be a good idea to consult with an attorney.  
 

Eddie’s girlfriend is struggling with addiction….this is exactly what people were trying to warn him about, but he knows it all.  He’s too new in his sobriety to manage another’s challenge on top of his own.  Apparently, he hasn’t noticed, but when you are sober, it’s not a lot of fun to hang out with someone who is quite intoxicated.  At least, imo.  

Edited April 28, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[Frisky Wig]

2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

When people lie to the police, they don’t seem to realize that their whereabouts could be disproven by video footage from stores, houses, intersections, etc.   And, if the police were able to get a search warrant for their phone records…..well, it would show where they were, if it was on.  And, before you pick up the phone and call the police to let them know you lied….it might be a good idea to consult with an attorney.  
 

Good thing they have one of those in their friend group! Someone call Katherine!
 

Also, I was thinking the fertility doctor was gonna tell Gary “I figured out why Maggie hasn’t gotten pregnant. Your sample was full of tartar sauce!” Causing Gary to realize he dug someone else’s brown paper sack out of the trash and then have to explain the whole situation to the doctor. Kinda bummed when that didn’t happen. 

[historylover820]

4 hours ago, Frisky Wig said:

Also, I was thinking the fertility doctor was gonna tell Gary “I figured out why Maggie hasn’t gotten pregnant. Your sample was full of tartar sauce!” Causing Gary to realize he dug someone else’s brown paper sack out of the trash and then have to explain the whole situation to the doctor. Kinda bummed when that didn’t happen. 

I would have laughed until I couldn't breathe if that happened!

[circumvent]

8 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

When people lie to the police, they don’t seem to realize that their whereabouts could be disproven by video footage from stores, houses, intersections, etc.   And, if the police were able to get a search warrant for their phone records…..well, it would show where they were, if it was on.  

Not that this show cares about accuracy, timelines, time itself, or even the dimension we live in, but the reality is that the police wouldn't do any of this, not when a white person might have lied about the death of a sex offender, after the coroner ruled it an accident. For one, they have too many bogus cases to go after, cases that focus on poor minorities. Second, the police only solve a tiny percentage of crimes, like really, really tiny, single digits tiny. The incompetence is staggering, that's why they go after poor people with no resources (if they don't have access to information even better) and slap them with false charges that generate a deal and they claim that the case is solved. It is a known pattern in law enforcement, at least in this country

[hoodooznoodooz]

Theo and Greta in matching dinosaur onesie pajamas.

[ams1001]

2 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Theo and Greta in matching dinosaur onesie pajamas.

Were they really? I missed that. Where were Katherine's PJs? 🙄

[marceline]

Katherine is an absolute idiot. First she blindsides Eddie by moving Greta into the house without discussing it with him and then she turns around and tells Eddie about Greta's bipolar disorder. This woman is just flailing around doing whatever feels right and making a mess of other people's lives.

I don't know what to make of Eddie and Anna. My only question is which relationship blows up first: Katherine/Greta or Eddie/Anna but both relationships are clearly headed someplace bad.

I don't want Maggie and Gary to reproduce. There. I said it.

I'll be interested to see where Rome's story leads.

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Theo and Greta in matching dinosaur onesie pajamas.

That was the first thing I noticed.  Weird on so many levels, starting with the point that Theo is supposed to be 12 not 2.  I assume Katherine has a set too - we didn't see it because she was already dressed.    I couldn't help wondering why Eddie didn't say anything but then what on earth could he say?  In my mind he was thinking "What the hell is going on here?" 

So 19 year old Sophie lives in a multi million dollar home AND drives a Lexus (how much does the show get for all those Lexus shots?)  She's not in school and doesn't have a job.  Okay. 

I'm worried about Gary's back and hoping it was just incorporating the actor's sore back into the storyline because a character coughing or having random pain is rarely about nothing. 

[ams1001]

3 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

So 19 year old Sophie lives in a multi million dollar home AND drives a Lexus (how much does the show get for all those Lexus shots?)  She's not in school and doesn't have a job.  Okay. 

I assume it's Delilah's car. Hard to move a car to France, after all.

[cardigirl]

So, I've been enjoying the last few episodes of this show, a nice balance of humor and drama, however, the "sperm" run involving Gary needing Sophie to drive him to the hospital, and finally at the end, Sophie sprinting through traffic to deliver the sample in time, tests my everlovin' patience with this show.  Who wrote that?  I could see Gary being driven to the hospital by Eddie, because he happened to be the Uber that was nearby, but NOT Sophie.  Ugh. 

Second vote for Greta and Theo's matching PJs.  I want some. 

 

(Are these the ones?) 

Edited April 28, 2022 by cardigirl

[Cosmocrush]

1 minute ago, ams1001 said:

I assume it's Delilah's car. Hard to move a car to France, after all.

Oh it's Delilah's car, just like it's Delilah's house.  Which apparently Delilah isn't in any hurry to sell.  They should have killed her off rather than the lame "go to France and never come back" story.  When is Sophie supposed to start her own life? 

[ams1001]

3 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

When is Sophie supposed to start her own life? 

Maybe now that Peter's gone and after her talk with Gary, she can move on and do something productive.

[Frisky Wig]

I found Greta’s reaction to Katherine’s concerns about her bipolar disorder to be way over the top. My understanding of bipolar disorder is that someone can be doing really well but something very stressful happens and it can trigger an episode. It’s a disorder that can’t be cured but needs to be managed and given the nature of disorder, it’s completely understandable why Katherine would be concerned about Greta, particularly since her close friend died by suicide! 
 

I mean, I suffer from depression and anorexia nervosa. I’m doing really well in my recovery from both but I know based on the nature of the illnesses and my own personal history that relapse is real possibility. If I got into a relationship and told my new boyfriend about this and he responded that he’s worried I’d relapse because a good friend of his died from anorexia, I wouldn’t get all defensive about how I’m weight restored, eating plenty, fighting disordered thoughts, etc. I’d say something like “I can’t promise I’ll never relapse but I’ll do everything I can to prevent it and will get help once I start backsliding.” But maybe that’s just me! 

[Rebky]

Real shock that Rome's student was trans. NOT.  Called it immediately. Did I hear right that the student thinks everyone is fooled??

[mansonlamps]

19 minutes ago, Rebky said:

Real shock that Rome's student was trans. NOT.  Called it immediately. Did I hear right that the student thinks everyone is fooled??

The only thing I was fooled by was the fact that apparently no one in the school realizes the student is transgender.

[Suzn]

1 hour ago, mansonlamps said:

The only thing I was fooled by was the fact that apparently no one in the school realizes the student is transgender.

So obvious.  

Why are they introducing new characters and storylines at this point?

Any Theo is too much, but they really overdid it this time.  They certainly are careless about talking where the the little eavesdropper could hear.

So many questions.  Why are they dealing with a fertility doctor at this point and didn't Maggie do a home test first?  Even the most fertile can't count on getting pregnant in the fist month of trying.

I suppose the Lexus does belong to Delilah but what is Sophie living on.  They really can't be earning big bucks on their tour, can they?

Edited April 28, 2022 by Suzn

[ams1001]

3 minutes ago, Suzn said:

Any Theo is too much, but they really overdid it this time.  They certainly are careless about talking where the the little eavesdropper could hear.

I was annoyed that they did two "kid overhears the adults when they think they are talking alone" in one episode. Tyrell overheard Regina and Val and then went to find Val's kid and fix something that's none of his business. (And of course it worked.)

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, cardigirl said:

(Are these the ones?) 

Yes.  The description says Moms, dads, sisters, brothers, babies and pets, too, can match together in this bright prehistoric print.  No mention of Mom's new girlfriend, recently moved into your house.  And aren't those generally purchased for some sort of family/friend group  photo (like a Christmas card) and not just a random school night where you and your Mom's BRAND NEW girlfriend?   🙄

 

Edited April 28, 2022 by Cosmocrush

[marceline]

2 hours ago, mansonlamps said:

The only thing I was fooled by was the fact that apparently no one in the school realizes the student is transgender.

One of the things I found interesting about Rome's class is that it seems diverse as hell. Gender, race, ethnicity, etc... the school seems a long way from the all-white prep school Rome attended as a kid.

[Rootbeer]

3 hours ago, Rebky said:

Real shock that Rome's student was trans. NOT.  Called it immediately. Did I hear right that the student thinks everyone is fooled??

As soon as they showed the student onscreen, I was dreading the inevitable storyline that will be totally mishandled by the writers.  There is a place for a show about a transgender teen's journey; but it is not on this poorly written mess of a show.

[Arcadiasw]

6 hours ago, marceline said:

 

I'll be interested to see where Rome's story leads.

I am interested but I don't trust these writers to make it a good story.

5 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Oh it's Delilah's car, just like it's Delilah's house.  Which apparently Delilah isn't in any hurry to sell.  They should have killed her off rather than the lame "go to France and never come back" story.  When is Sophie supposed to start her own life? 

I must have missed it but what happened to Sophie's band. Did she quit because of Gary's cancer scare?

3 hours ago, Rebky said:

Real shock that Rome's student was trans. NOT.  Called it immediately. Did I hear right that the student thinks everyone is fooled??

Yup. I thought everyone knew and accepted the student. 

[mansonlamps]

26 minutes ago, marceline said:

One of the things I found interesting about Rome's class is that it seems diverse as hell. Gender, race, ethnicity, etc... the school seems a long way from the all-white prep school Rome attended as a kid.

This is not meant to be critical,  but aren't most TV shows well down that path in 2022?  Doesn't surprise me in the least, nor should it.

[marceline]

5 minutes ago, mansonlamps said:

This is not meant to be critical,  but aren't most TV shows well down that path in 2022?  Doesn't surprise me in the least, nor should it.

Agreed. But the whole thrust of Rome's issue with the school has been his experience there as one of three Black students. 

This school isn't the same as it was and I think that should be acknowledged.

[ams1001]

31 minutes ago, Arcadiasw said:

I must have missed it but what happened to Sophie's band. Did she quit because of Gary's cancer scare?

There was a scene with Sophie and one of the girls from the band in the kitchen. Sophie was asking her about the guy she hooked up with after their show the night before, then she was looking at Peter's obituary and the other girl asked her about it and said it was sad because he was young and asked if they were close, and Sophie got all uncomfortable and just said no (and the girl didn't seem to notice Sophie's long, awkward pause before responding).

I wonder how far away their tour went, or if it's just over. Who knows how long it's been, since time clearly works differently on this show.

[Lady Calypso]

5 hours ago, Frisky Wig said:

I found Greta’s reaction to Katherine’s concerns about her bipolar disorder to be way over the top. My understanding of bipolar disorder is that someone can be doing really well but something very stressful happens and it can trigger an episode. It’s a disorder that can’t be cured but needs to be managed and given the nature of disorder, it’s completely understandable why Katherine would be concerned about Greta, particularly since her close friend died by suicide! 

I kind of got why Greta wasn't happy with Katherine. I think Katherine had a right to be concerned, AND I don't fault her for her thought process on telling Eddie. I mean, Katherine moved her very, very new girlfriend into their home where she has a child with Eddie. Eddie has every right to know who is living with his son. But Greta may not have wanted Katherine to tell Eddie about her bipolar because she wanted to get the chance to do it herself. This was Greta's thing to tell, and Katherine should have talked to Greta first. "Hey, is it cool if Eddie knows about you being bipolar? I think he would deserve to know some things about the woman living with Theo and I just want to make sure that everyone is on the same page here." I think Katherine just needed to talk to Greta beforehand and she didn't, which is more my issue (maybe not Greta's). But there is a stigma surrounding mental health, especially bipolar disorder. 

That being said, it's just proof that Katherine/Greta moved way too fast in their relationship. 

Yawn to Rome's teaching subplot. I think that, as soon as I saw the transgender student, I groaned. But because this show will handle it with as much subtlety and careful planning as a sledgehammer slamming through a wall. They're gonna hit on every cliche in the book for this poor student, and it's going to be frustrating since said student will just disappear once his arc is over. Rome's not gonna teach for the rest of the series. 

The Gary subplot was supposed to be funny, I guess. Maybe it's just not my type of subplot because I was feeling more awkward than entertained.

Especially when Sophie, a nineteen year old girl, was running through the streets with Gary's sperm. Sealed up, sure, but still. And of course these two didn't magically get pregnant on the first try. I know they likely will on the second, but they're definitely going to speed-rush through this infertility storyline as quickly as possible to "represent infertility". 

 At least Anna finally came clean about her drinking. But now Eddie seems like he feels like he has to help Anna because he's been where she is. When he's still fairly new at sobriety again and knows that this could end badly for the both of them. But he's still lying, which means the detective is gonna catch them in that lie when he inevitably finds photos of Eddie without Anna or something like that. I kind of wish they WOULD just move on, but I'm not convinced.

And, unfortunately, this is the mystery they want to explore. Who killed Peter? Who gives a shit? Move on, the man's dead!

No comment on the Regina/Val stuff. Ditto on Tyrell and Val's kid probably dating. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

That white Lexus belongs to Delilah. There was a scene where she was installing a car seat in that car and Barbara Nelson was spying on her. I guess the writers totally forgot about a 16yo car that Jon bought for Sophie and was gifted to her the day she got her driver’s license (ref: S02•E07).

I truly hate Rome’s teaching storyline because it doesn’t make sense. He doesn’t have any teaching credentials and he is not an award-winning film maker. He only produced one documentary. We know Rome cannot keep secrets, so expect more drama from him when he accidentally exposes Maddox at school. 🙄

Err, does Valerie have different daughter in this episode? Recast?

I notice that Greta’s hair is getting higher and higher. How much hair products she uses? Soon Theo and her will have matching hairstyles too! 😂

Did Allison Miller specifically request to direct an episode that involves Gary’s little Gares? If I were Sophie, I won’t touch that paper bag, ever! Euw! 🤮 

Maggie will get pregnant before this season ends, and hey, maybe Regina too! 🙄

Apparently, in AMLT timeline, it is still 2021. No wonder Theo never age!

📌Note to self: Theo Saville is 12yo!

Edited April 29, 2022 by SnazzyDaisy

[bybrandy]

9 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

So 19 year old Sophie lives in a multi million dollar home AND drives a Lexus (how much does the show get for all those Lexus shots?)  She's not in school and doesn't have a job.  Okay. 

In fairness I drive a Lexus that I bought used.  It is an old Lexus but it had 76,000 miles on it when I bought it used in October and while it is older than most cars I was looking at it had hella  low mileage and I'm not a lux car nut but it is super fancy and I'm gonna be sad when I have to go back to peon cars.   

Edited April 29, 2022 by bybrandy

[ams1001]

9 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

"Peter will live on through all he did for his students."

And all he did to his students.

[KaveDweller]

5 hours ago, ams1001 said:

I was annoyed that they did two "kid overhears the adults when they think they are talking alone" in one episode. Tyrell overheard Regina and Val and then went to find Val's kid and fix something that's none of his business. (And of course it worked.)

If Theo heard Katherine telling Eddie about Greta's bipolar, and he didn't know what it was, wouldn't the natural thing to do have been for him to Google it? I would do that before asking someone about an obvious issue, I feel like even if I was a kid I'd do that.

10 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Apparently, in AMLT timeline, it is still 2021. No wonder Theo never age!

📌Note to self: Theo Saville is 12yo!

 

It actually makes sense that it is 2021. Last season it was 2020 (they had the start of Covid and George Floyd storylines).

[ams1001]

1 minute ago, KaveDweller said:

If Theo heard Katherine telling Eddie about Greta's bipolar, and he didn't know what it was, wouldn't the natural thing to do have been for him to Google it? I would do that before asking someone about an obvious issue, I feel like even if I was a kid I'd do that.

Maybe he's not allowed iPad time before school.

[Frisky Wig]

2 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

I kind of got why Greta wasn't happy with Katherine. I think Katherine had a right to be concerned, AND I don't fault her for her thought process on telling Eddie. I mean, Katherine moved her very, very new girlfriend into their home where she has a child with Eddie. Eddie has every right to know who is living with his son. But Greta may not have wanted Katherine to tell Eddie about her bipolar because she wanted to get the chance to do it herself. This was Greta's thing to tell, and Katherine should have talked to Greta first. "Hey, is it cool if Eddie knows about you being bipolar? I think he would deserve to know some things about the woman living with Theo and I just want to make sure that everyone is on the same page here." I think Katherine just needed to talk to Greta beforehand and she didn't, which is more my issue (maybe not Greta's). But there is a stigma surrounding mental health, especially bipolar disorder. 

I totally agree with you. I don’t have a problem with Greta being upset with Katherine for telling Eddie about her bipolar. There IS still a lot of stigma and yeah, Katherine should’ve talked to Greta about telling Eddie. My issue was Greta not understanding how Katherine would be worried that Greta would relapse and have a manic/depressed/mixed episode. Katherine showed concern due to research she’d read about bipolar suicide rates and Greta’s defensive response to that, IMO, was over the top. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

30 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

"Peter will live on through all he did for his students."

And all he did to his students.

This Peter storyline is taking forever. I thought it will end with his death. But now with Sophie reposting her exposé and all, ugh. 😣

27 minutes ago, KaveDweller said:

It actually makes sense that it is 2021. Last season it was 2020 (they had the start of Covid and George Floyd storylines).

There was a time jump in 2020, right? Between Eddie’s accident and him being released from hospital. Is there any time jump for 2021? I can’t recall.

[hoodooznoodooz]

23 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Why is a doctor's office allowing a patient to film in the waiting room? All kinds of potential privacy violations.

 

Can they please make Theo act like a twelve-year-old?

In a previous episode, the OB was whining to Maggie and Gary about how another couple was even more annoying than Maggie and Gary. Nobody acts like a professional on this show.

I know of no twelve-year-old boys who would wear pajamas that matched anyone else’s in the house.

7 hours ago, mansonlamps said:

The only thing I was fooled by was the fact that apparently no one in the school realizes the student is transgender.

Because of the student’s voice, I thought we would learn that Madison/Maddox was a trans woman.

[ams1001]

5 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

In a previous episode, the OB was whining to Maggie and Gary about how another couple was even more annoying than Maggie and Gary. Nobody acts like a professional on this show.

I bet he's told that other couple how annoying M&G are. If my doctor was being gossipy to me about other patients, I'd be wondering what he was saying about me.

5 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Because of the student’s voice, I thought we would learn that Madison/Maddox was a trans woman.

I thought the same thing. I was a little confused about which way things went when they appeared on the zoom. So they haven't come out to anyone but Rome but it sounds like they've already done something to change their voice? (Don't remember if the character specified pronouns, but the little bio on IMDB describes the actor [Ash Spencer] as transgender/non-binary and uses "they" so I'll go with that.) I know some women have deeper voices, but it does seem awfully low for a teenager who hasn't transitioned in any way. (Unless I misunderstood/misheard what they were saying, which is entirely possible.)

"Ash works to promote accurate and inclusive queer and transgender representation in the industry whenever possible." I hope the writers of this show are up to the task. Looks like they'll be in at least three more episodes.

[Suzn]

53 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I know of no twelve-year-old boys who would wear pajamas that matched anyone else’s in the house.

Because of the student’s voice, I thought we would learn that Madison/Maddox was a trans woman.

So did I!  Now I'm confused, but will just wait to see what happens.

Baby-Theo wears jammies that a much younger kid would wear.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Suzn

[maggiemae]

So, so, so tired of Theo.

Evidently pj's are his new glitter. 

Sigh

[hoosiergirl]

7 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Yes.  The description says Moms, dads, sisters, brothers, babies and pets, too, can match together in this bright prehistoric print.  No mention of Mom's new girlfriend, recently moved into your house.  And aren't those generally purchased for some sort of family/friend group  photo (like a Christmas card) and not just a random school night where you and your Mom's BRAND NEW girlfriend?   🙄

 

Omg don’t give AMLT crew any ideas about matching jammies on a Christmas card. 

[SunnyBeBe]

20 minutes ago, maggiemae said:

So, so, so tired of Theo.

Evidently pj's are his new glitter. 

Sigh

What’s next…..a dinosaur designed sippie cup for Theo? Lol

It sort of reminds me of an embarrassing experience I had some years ago. I’ve told it here but long ago. Probably a different name back then. Anyway, I commuted to my job 2 hrs, roundtrip and belonged to a gym near my office.  Daily, I carried my workout gear with me and arrived at the gym after work. One day I forgot my shoes! I had to have them to run on the treadmill, so I decided to purchase a pair at a nearby store (Marshall’s) across the street quickly and get my workout in.  (Back then I was quite committed to working out.). I ran in and saw some cute shoes on a table, grabbed my size and got to the gym.  Got dressed and hopped on the treadmill…place was packed…..and started running.  I noticed some of the ladies were staring at me….I finally looked down and realized my shoes were lit up and flashed light each time I stepped.  Lol. They were kids shoes!  So embarrassing! I tried to explain what happened.  Lol I gave the shoes away, but they were cute.  

Edited April 29, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[CrystalBlue]

I hate this Maggie and Gary fertility storyline.  They JUST got back together.  Why not wait a year to see how their relationship goes?  What about getting engaged?  Married?  This whole semen episode was so cringey to me.  Having Gary, Gary's semen sample and Sophie bonding together was total dreck.  Maybe next time Gary will produce his sample in the office.  Will there be a next time?  I guess that leaves Gary off the hook for being Darcy's baby's biological father.  The flippant way Maggie corrected the doctor about the father of the prior aborted pregnancy really annoyed me.  She annoys me anyway with her cutesy sexy talk with Gary (and before that Cam and before that Jamie).

Too much Theo and no Colin.

I hope Anna gets questioned about lying to the police.  I hope Gary and Maggie can't reproduce, which leads to them breaking up again.  I hope Regina and Val have proper food truck permits.  I hope this is the last of Peter Benoit we hear about.  But of course Sophie's podcast is going to go viral and she can deal with her victimhood for the rest of this season.

[Lethallyfab]

I don’t know what I cringed at more, Rome and Gina’s aborted attempt at “home school me” sexy roleplay or Gary and Maggie’s “we’re having such amazing sex that he totally blew his back out!”  (*are* they having such amazing sex, though?  Because the scene where Maggie helped him provide the sample made it seem like he finished in less than 60 seconds?). 

Things that I thought would be a significant plot point but weren’t — Gary knew about Peter’s death before Sophie did and didn’t tell her and she had to learn from the Internet.  I guess because they’re besties again, the show is just going to gloss over it?  
 

The show made it seem like Gina knowingly drove the food truck to that school on purpose to facilitate a reunion between Val and her kid?  No, just…no.  
 

I actually thought the whole Greta subplot was handled well, overall.

[circumvent]

23 hours ago, mansonlamps said:

The only thing I was fooled by was the fact that apparently no one in the school realizes the student is transgender.

I did it too but I thought they would make it a trans girl student. Instead, they got a (supposedly) male actor to play a female student that is really a (closeted) trans boy. It is all upside down as far as representation goes

I don't know who is doing Greta's hair but they need to just fix that mess. It looks like a helmet from an old sci-fi tv series.

I don't mind Theo asking Greta what bipolar is but the whole story was very badly played. We don't know what her answer was in the car, then time passes (this show's time, so never mind) and he gets an explanation and then makes a joke about the whole thing? And they laugh with him? After a serious conversation about someone else's mental health, laughing is inappropriate and they should have told him that. It is not cute. People can be accepting without ignoring that bipolar disorder, alcoholism and other diagnosis can be stressful and hard for some. The right thing to do would be to tell him that, while he is good at fooling people with jokes, making light of this is wrong and not everyone would understand or be happy about.

And Katherine, you don't reveal someone else's private medical information even if it is because the person lives with you and your son. You just don't. You are a lawyer and you know the meaning of consent. No wonder Theo has no boundaries on anything.

These people, seriously. A criminal who is promptly forgiven because life without him is unimaginable, an ethical attorney who doesn't know boundaries but demands them for her son, a mother who fled the country...

Back to the shallow: I cannot stand, it hurts my eyes, to see grown women in pigtails., I complained about this on the New Amsterdam forum and will complain here. Pigtails in adult women is ridiculous. 

 

Edited April 29, 2022 by circumvent
correcting misspelling of "boundaries". I promise, I know how to spell it 😆

[bybrandy]

12 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

In a previous episode, the OB was whining to Maggie and Gary about how another couple was even more annoying than Maggie and Gary. Nobody acts like a professional on this show.

I assumed that was a joke.  

12 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Because of the student’s voice, I thought we would learn that Madison/Maddox was a trans woman.

I also assumed when we first met him that Madison was a trans woman.  And I'm fine with Maddox being a transman and I'm assuming they cast a trans actor.  But the actor seemed further along down the path of transition than the character of Maddox seemed to be..

[amarante]

On 4/28/2022 at 9:10 AM, Cosmocrush said:

Oh it's Delilah's car, just like it's Delilah's house.  Which apparently Delilah isn't in any hurry to sell.  They should have killed her off rather than the lame "go to France and never come back" story.  When is Sophie supposed to start her own life? 

Theoretically it's for sale as they were shown packing up and I think there were showings. 

Although watching any of these shows requires a suspension of disbelief because in general they *need* to insert plot devices in order to move the plot forward - on both major and minor story lines.

As has been posted, no one would go to a fertility doctor after even a few months of trying to conceive unless for some reason there was some kind of pre-existing physical issue. But in the previous appointment the doctor essentially said you are good to go. They wouldn't be expected back in less than a year especially when Maggie is only 30 years old so there isn't some huge ticking clock.

 

[Suzn]

7 hours ago, circumvent said:

I did it too but I thought they would make it a trans girl student. Instead, they got a (supposedly) male actor to play a female student that is really a (closeted) trans boy. It is all upside down as far as representation goes

I don't know who is doing Greta's hair but they need to just fix that mess. It looks like a helmet from an old sci-fi tv series.

I don't mind Theo asking Greta what bipolar is but the whole story was very badly played. We don't know what her answer was in the car, then time passes (this show's time, so never mind) and he gets an explanation and then makes a joke about the whole thing? And they laugh with him? After a serious conversation about someone else's mental health, laughing is inappropriate and they should have told him that. It is not cute. People can be accepting without ignoring that bipolar disorder, alcoholism and other diagnosis can be stressful and hard for some. The right thing to do would be to tell him that, while he is good at fooling people with jokes, making light of this is wrong and not everyone would understand or be happy about.

And Katherine, you don't reveal someone else's private medical information even if it is because the person lives with you and your son. You just don't. You are a lawyer and you know the meaning of consent. No wonder Theo has no bounderies on anything.

These people, seriously. A criminal who is promptly forgiven because life without him is unimaginable, an ethical attorney who doesn't know bounderies but demands them for her son, a mother who fled the country...

Back to the shallow: I cannot stand, it hurts my eyes, to see grown women in pigtails., I complained about this on the New Amsterdam forum and will complain here. Pigtails in adult women is ridiculous. 

 

ITA - so much with all your points! 

I thought the girl student had a boy's voice, so I am not understanding something here.

I hate Greta's hair and find it a little frightening like it has a life of its own, like it's holding her hostage.

Theo is such a clever little comedian - Not.  After this serious discussion, we have to go for the yucks because he is sooo funny. 

Boundaries, Boundaries?  We don't need no stinking Boundaries!  Really these people recognize no boundaries for anyone for anything.

And finally, Maggie is so, so cute that she has to wear pigtails so there is no chance anyone misses that she is adorable.

[KaveDweller]

20 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

This Peter storyline is taking forever. I thought it will end with his death. But now with Sophie reposting her exposé and all, ugh. 😣

There was a time jump in 2020, right? Between Eddie’s accident and him being released from hospital. Is there any time jump for 2021? I can’t recall.

Yes, there was a 6 month time jump earlier in the season. The time jump after Eddie's accident last season was only a couple of months.

15 hours ago, Lethallyfab said:

I don’t know what I cringed at more, Rome and Gina’s aborted attempt at “home school me” sexy roleplay or Gary and Maggie’s “we’re having such amazing sex that he totally blew his back out!”  (*are* they having such amazing sex, though?  Because the scene where Maggie helped him provide the sample made it seem like he finished in less than 60 seconds?). 

Things that I thought would be a significant plot point but weren’t — Gary knew about Peter’s death before Sophie did and didn’t tell her and she had to learn from the Internet.  I guess because they’re besties again, the show is just going to gloss over it?  

Sophie didn't find out from the internet, Gary and Maggie told her last week. It was off camera but they had a scene of Gary and Maggie finding out, and being all "oh, no, Sophie!" Then the next scene was Sophie calling Eddie to tell him Peter was dead and asking about Anna.

Edited April 29, 2022 by KaveDweller