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Season Finale!

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Richard Brown and his Committee of Safety arrive to arrest Claire for murder. However, due to the rising political tensions in the colonies, Brown’s plan to find a judge for a trial does not go as expected.

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The title is such an OXYMORON!

Because until the last minute and a half, Jamie and Claire WERE alone.🤬🤬🤬

Just where were ALLLLLLLL those people who swore fealty to Jamie last season?

Too much time on the shooting where only Claire manages to shoot Ezra and kill him. Even if he didn’t die until the end.

And ENOUGH with the “burrrrn the witch!” Bullshite. We had enough of that in season one. THESE Arseholes have land and homes because of Jamie. And so sick of Malva as being portrayed as some innocent and puir waif.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

WHY Jamie would trust that piece of shite Crombie after he called Claire a jealous and vindictive witch, is beyond me.

Time could have been saved to tell the main story by cutting out Bree and Roger’s love scene.

The best moments were the quiet scenes with Jamie and Claire. And aye, that includes their love scene and I dinna care if that makes me a hypocrite. Oh those two crazy kids! Each yelling the other’s names! I would have been pissed if that fade to black after Jamie was knocked out would have been the end.

And also please spare me of the stoning of them both. Who are these assholes that Brown and his posse are made up of, that people would just believe them? Yeah, yeah, back country of North Carolina, blah, blah, blah.

For a minute, I thought Show was going to take buik seven’s subplot of Jamie being lost as sea and presumed dead and change the reason why. Sae glad that didn’t happen.

I was really hoping to have done with Malva and the whole Christie family by season’s end, but I suppose the short season is why we didn’t and will see it over by episode 2 next season!

If the show finally had to end on a cliffhanger the scenes with Wee Ian and the Cherokee coming to Jamie’s rescue was a great way to do it.

 

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Time could have been saved to tell the main story by cutting out Bree and Roger’s love scene.

The best moments were the quiet scenes with Jamie and Claire. And aye, that includes their love scene and I dinna care if that makes me a hypocrite. Oh those two crazy kids! Each yelling the other’s names! I would have been pissed if that fade to black after Jamie was knocked out would have been the end.

And also please spare me of the stoning of them both. Who are these assholes that Brown and his posse are made up of, that people would just believe them? Yeah, yeah, back country of North Carolina, blah, blah, blah.

All I could think during Bree and Roger’s love scene was “they’re no Jamie and Claire”.

It’s unfortunate that people (especially uneducated people, not to mention superstitious as they were at that time) tend to believe the first version of a story they hear. Whoever spreads their version first usually has the advantage, even if it’s a blatant lie. And the juicier it is the more likely people are to latch onto it and spread it further.

ETA: The lice. Wouldn’t it make more sense to shave Jemmy’s head rather than leave short hair? And why TF wasn’t Bree keeping that long braid of hers the heck away from his head?

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Time could have been saved to tell the main story by cutting out Bree and Roger’s love scene.

When I was watching Roger and Bree's love scene, my thinking was, "Now?  Now they have this moment? Why use this in the LAST episode of the season?"  And I like Roger and Bree. 

Also, I may have laughed a bit at Jamie and Claire's love scene.  (I know, I'm going to hell. 😋)  But when the shooting first stopped, and they were by the fireplace in the parlor, I was afraid they'd "do It" then despite being surrounded and no help coming.  Way to let your guard down. 🙄 At least they waited until after they'd surrendered. 

Ian for the win. I swear I'm not a violent person, but I was yelling "Shoot 'em, shoot 'em all!"  

Hope the wait for the next season isn't a full year. 

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Kind of an all over the map episode. I really did not need the Roger/Bree sex scene mostly because Sophie is such a terrible actor. It’s a casting thing I just can’t move beyond. 
 

Nice scene of the horses running on the beach….I wondered how many permits they had to get to shoot that.

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7 minutes ago, ruby24 said:

They didn't even finish the Christie storyline? Wth kind of finale is that?

Probably due to the short season. Had we a normal 13 episode season, I think we would have had a resolution to this and a good riddance to the Christies.

It’s my hope it will be resolved by the premiere or second episode. They’ve already gone off-buik.

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Young Ian sure took his sweet time, but boy, did he come through.  I'm not usually a bloodthirsty person, but watching those men get arrowed and shot was very satisfying.  I may have to watch that again, kind of like I watch the end of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood over and over because it makes me happy to see the bad guys lose, at least in that version.

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Nitpick: I grew up in New England and in my 20s I lived and worked not far from Lexington and Concord. You don’t say it Con-CORD like Bree did. You say it CON-kerd.

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19 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:

ETA: The lice. Wouldn’t it make more sense to shave Jemmy’s head rather than leave short hair? And why TF wasn’t Bree keeping that long braid of hers the heck away from his head?

That drove me bananas!

They totally whiffed that whole scene.  It's been a long time since I read that book, but if memory serves, Jamie and Claire were around when it happened, and they did shave Jemmy's head and he was upset about it and Roger shaved his so that Jemmy wouldn't feel so alone.  it was then that the birthmarks were noticed and Claire explained them.  I think that I am remembering correctly?

Also?  Those were awfully strange looking birthmarks.  To me, they resembled wounds more than birthmarks.

I really hate to rag on anyone's talent but Sophie Skelton is just so wooden and awful all of the time - she just cannot sell any scene at all.  I am currently reading DG's most recent book - no spoilers here - and she seems to be very descriptive in Bree's scenes.  I have to wonder if she is trying to give SS direction so that when that book is filmed, she has a better sense of what to do?

On an unrelated topic - that scene of the bad guy getting shot through the hand into the face was well done.  I really appreciate when directors can come up with interesting shots (lol) like that.

Going to be such a long wait now for the next season...

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1 hour ago, Eureka said:

Nitpick: I grew up in New England and in my 20s I lived and worked not far from Lexington and Concord. You don’t say it Con-CORD like Bree did. You say it CON-kerd.

I live 20 minutes from Concord, NC and it is indeed pronounced Con-CORD. Natives can tell pretty quickly you're not from here if you say CON-kerd.

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12 minutes ago, DudeLeaveMeAlone said:

I live 20 minutes from Concord, NC and it is indeed pronounced Con-CORD. Natives can tell pretty quickly you're not from here if you say CON-kerd.

But I believe that Bree was talking about Concord and Boston, correct?  I'll have to rewatch. Having been raised in Boston, Bree should be aware of how the towns around it are pronounced. Concord is not one I've mangled in my time here in New England, but I did butcher Needham, and was mercilessly teased about saying NeedHAM instead of NEEDem. 

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Maybe it’s my disappointment after reading Bees, but I’ve found this season tedious.  I ended up fast forwarding most of the episode, but did enjoy the save by Ian at the end.  That part deserved a rewind & rewatch.  The rest, not so much!

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I thought the pacing for this one was off balance. It started off all action-packed but then everything sort of came to a screeching halt in order for what felt like an obligatory love scene between Jamie and Claire. That just felt completely inappropriate and absurd. It picked up at the end though and I enjoyed Ian and his posse riding to the rescue, even if the timing of that did feel pretty contrived. Loved the shot of the bullet going through that guy's hand and into his eyeball.

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Here we are.  Another Droughtlander, and I think it'll be ok.  A modicum of faith has been restored to me after watching last night's episode, which felt like a return to a better form.  

Loved - 

- The shootout at the "OG-Big House" was exciting.  Like on the edge of my seat exciting.  Badass Claire is perhaps my favorite Claire.  There you are, honey.  I missed you, Badass Claire!  When she comes blazing out of the breezeway packing musket heat - Yes, Girl!!  Shoot that baddie in the guts!

- Loved the Fraser arsenal in the basement.  When you know what the future holds, you get yourself prepared. Smart move.

- I've seen it criticized a bit, but I actually loved the fireside conversation regarding Jamie's Nine Lives.  I was so pleased to see that brought into the show.  The broken glass gave a lovely shimmer to the scene.  Claire telling Jamie that she was scared was so so so good.  

- Sam nailed Jamie this week.  Finally, that's my JAMMF.  Playing with Claire's hair by the fire, rubbing her sore knuckles, shooting Brown's hat out of his hands, that's Jamie Fraser. 

- Tom Christie, Welcome to "Not a Total Asshat" territory.  This actor, the way he plays him, damn.  That look he gave Claire while they were sitting on the hill, double damn.  Jamie catching that look, OH DAMN!  Loved the whole exchange.

- Ian.  I love this character and this actor.  He has been such a bright spot all season.  The beach rescue was amazing and so unexpected.  I initially thought the Show was condensing storylines and Jamie would get on the ship and end up in Scotland, but the flying arrows and the arrival of Bird was so awesome that I sat up and cheered.  What a great addition!  The shot through the hand was incredible!

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- The Traveling Mackenzies.  Snooooooooooooze.  The sex scene was something the world just didn't need right now. Like, not at all.  Or ever.  I was sad to see the mole thing happen without Jamie and Claire.  Claire is the one who told Roger that those things are hereditary, and it created such a wholesome family moment for all of them.  I missed that here, though I did love Jemmy talking to the baby.  Makes me feel like the show is setting up their super sibling powers.  

- The Fisher Folk.  This is a stupid plot from DG.  These people suck and they need to go away.  I want Arch to walk around and put eviction notices on their shitty cabins.  And the Ardsmuir guys.  Yeah, thanks for showing up.  Like me walking into a meeting that wasn't on my calendar - late and confused. 

- There was so much action and is was really exciting, but then we saw J&C ride bounce around in a wagon for a looooong time.  Some of that could have been condensed into not as many stops.  Sometimes, more show is just more show.  I appreciate the additional minutes as long as it goes somewhere.  If we had removed the MacKenzies or some wagon scenes, could we have gotten closer to a resolution to Claire's situation?

- Claire in a jail cell.  This is where it ends?  Really?  

On 5/1/2022 at 12:30 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

nd ENOUGH with the “burrrrn the witch!” Bullshite. We had enough of that in season one. THESE Arseholes have land and homes because of Jamie. And so sick of Malva as being portrayed as some innocent and puir waif.

Me too.  This is so tired.  Even the old lady's lines were recycled from Season 1.

22 hours ago, Quickbeam said:

I really did not need the Roger/Bree sex scene mostly because Sophie is such a terrible actor. It’s a casting thing I just can’t move beyond. 

 Same.  Everyone else is so good.  Even last night, Oakes was so good.  I can't make peace with the Bree casting, and I feel really bad about it.  

3 hours ago, cardigirl said:

I believe that Bree was talking about Concord and Boston, correct?

Yes, I think.  She was talking about the Battle of Lexington and Concord.

2 hours ago, McKavity said:

Maybe it’s my disappointment after reading Bees, but I’ve found this season tedious.

Yes, I think that's where I am, too.  I was so disappointed after reading Bees.  I embarrassingly moped around for days when I finished it.  There's bad DG, and we can all fume about it and move on, but I couldn't move on from Bees for a long time.  I even tried to read it again about a month ago, and I just couldn't.  I feel like my feelings for Bees have skewed my impressions of this season a bit. 

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I mentioned this in the Non-buik talk thread, but I do believe this season was a disappointment because of the unexpected short season. I would like to think we would have gotten the trial and rid of the Christies but season’s end had we had a normal season.

And the wait for next season willna be as long as for this season-it was because of COVID we had to wait two years. I checked and the only other time we had over a year for a new season was five. Four ended in late 2018, and five was in February 2020.

I would have enjoyed the shootout had there been more casualties. Only Claire managed to seriously wound Ezra. 

But yes, @SassAndSnacks, I was thrilled tae ha’e my JAMMF back with all his BADASSERY! 

And please, pleasepleaseplease I hope we’ve seen the last of Lionel Brown.

I’m totally goin’ back for a rewatch with Season One!

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1 hour ago, SassAndSnacks said:

Tom Christie, Welcome to "Not a Total Asshat" territory.  This actor, the way he plays him, damn.  That look he gave Claire while they were sitting on the hill, double damn.  Jamie catching that look, OH DAMN!  Loved the whole exchange.

Speaking of Tom Christie looks - When Allen takes the baby’s coffin from Claire Tom Christie has a look that says he figured it out.  At least that’s how I saw it.

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I loved this episode. It had all the ingredients of a great OL episode. . Action, fighting, lovin’, mystery, fear, a cliffhanger ( which I love).
 

This director has a talent- let’s have him back please! Loved the shot through the hand & the eyeball. Riding  the horses across the sand. The fire lit scenes, the broken glass, the panning out from the bedroom, & the house! 
 

I loved that it started with action. And who knew they had a basement or that it was full of guns! Team Fraser know what to do in a shootout! 
 

I love every minute of Jamie & Claire’s onscreen time ( all seasons & episodes). I appreciated the love scene because if it was the last night I thought we might have together alone, I’d be memorizing Jamie & spending it making love too. I even thought Roger & Bree’s intimate moment was the most natural one we’ve ever seen- kudos to the intimacy co-ordinator if this is what she brought. 

Jem talking to Bree’s baby bump was sweet. 
 

Did Jamie figure out that Tom is in love with Claire when he saw him staring at her? 
 

I was terrified for Claire when they took her away from Jamie. Can you imagine her fear of being raped again?  And she does question why Tom is along. I felt the wagon ride in general was too long, but then it showcased the impending doom. All Claire’s fears- for herself, Jamie, her family. 
 

I loved Ian & the Cherokee coming to Jamie’s rescue! Ending with another round of action was a wonderful bookend. At least Claire is safe in jail ( for a year, haha), & Jamie is free to rescue her! 
 

I enjoyed the season even if it felt a bit like a “middle”.

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

 

I’m totally goin’ back for a rewatch with Season One!

We watched 101 after the finale last night. My hubby suggested it as we are going on a trip to Scotland in a month, & he wanted to revisit the scenery & sets. Twist my arm! I get to enjoy Hottest young Jamie - that’s the scenery for me! Hoping we will get through 2 & 1/2 seasons in a month🤞. The show is so beautiful to look at, & Scotland certainly was a character in the early seasons. 

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8 hours ago, DudeLeaveMeAlone said:

I live 20 minutes from Concord, NC and it is indeed pronounced Con-CORD. Natives can tell pretty quickly you're not from here if you say CON-kerd.

I could be wrong but I thought they were talking about the shot that was heard round the world, which was in MA. 

8 hours ago, cardigirl said:

But I believe that Bree was talking about Concord and Boston, correct?  I'll have to rewatch. Having been raised in Boston, Bree should be aware of how the towns around it are pronounced. Concord is not one I've mangled in my time here in New England, but I did butcher Needham, and was mercilessly teased about saying NeedHAM instead of NEEDem. 

Lol, yup Need-um, Wooster (Worcester), Haive-erell (Haverhill).

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12 hours ago, aemom said:

Also?  Those were awfully strange looking birthmarks.  To me, they resembled wounds more than birthmarks.

On an unrelated topic - that scene of the bad guy getting shot through the hand into the face was well done.  I really appreciate when directors can come up with interesting shots (lol) like that.

Well, it's not a birthmark per se, it's a nevus. A pigmented skin lesion. I wish they had handled the lice correctly.

Yes, it was. My Mom chuckled.

7 hours ago, SassAndSnacks said:

Makes me feel like the show is setting up their super sibling powers.  

Seems that way to me.

I loved that Claire had a second gun when she put down the first.

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Loved, loved when Claire came out with guns ablazing.  Loved, loved Ian showing up and tossing out a casual, "oh, we know where she is," then shooting the bad guy.  Didn't love much else.  I'm frustrated the Christie storyline will carry over to next season.

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10 hours ago, Haleth said:

I'm frustrated the Christie storyline will carry over to next season.

You and me both. I promised my Outlander-watching mom that she'd find out who killed Malva in the finale because "obviously they're going to wrap up the Christie storyline." Now I'm going to have to tell her who did it, because she'll bug me right up until the next premiere otherwise! Gah!

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7 minutes ago, Moxie Cat said:

You and me both. I promised my Outlander-watching mom that she'd find out who killed Malva in the finale because "obviously they're going to wrap up the Christie storyline." Now I'm going to have to tell her who did it, because she'll bug me right up until the next premiere otherwise! Gah!

Oh no, don’t spoil it! Make her wait! My mom recorded them all but has not started yet, I almost wanted to tell her to wait until next yr before the next season, lol! 

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1 minute ago, Cdh20 said:

Oh no, don’t spoil it! Make her wait!

A whole year?!? Haha. She already bugged me about it last weekend because she knew I knew, and I made her wait through the last episode. I'll try to hold out, but I don't think I'll make it till next January, or whenever Droughtlander ends!

Good call on waiting to watch this past season and the new one together. I bet it would/will be more satisfying, in retrospect.

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11 hours ago, Haleth said:

I'm frustrated the Christie storyline will carry over to next season.

37 minutes ago, Moxie Cat said:

You and me both. I promised my Outlander-watching mom that she'd find out who killed Malva in the finale because "obviously they're going to wrap up the Christie storyline." Now I'm going to have to tell her who did it, because she'll bug me right up until the next premiere otherwise! Gah!

I knew it wouldn't be resolved when I read this season was only going to be eight episodes. No way it was going to be resolved unless the last two episodes were two hours. Which, o' course, they weren't.

 

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13 hours ago, Haleth said:

Loved, loved when Claire came out with guns ablazing.  Loved, loved Ian showing up and tossing out a casual, "oh, we know where she is," then shooting the bad guy.  Didn't love much else.  I'm frustrated the Christie storyline will carry over to next season.

Ditto to everything you said.  I'm only just now getting around to watching this episode because I hate, hate, HATE the Christie storyline and the only thing I hate MORE is that creepy guy in the tricorn hat (I can't be bothered to remember his name) and his bullshit "committee of safety."  The one thing that was getting me through this episode was Jamie sticking to Claire's side like glue, so naturally that comfort was ripped away.  It's been a while since I read the books so I honestly didn't remember Ian riding to Jamie's rescue at the end.  As such, that was a nice surprise and it saved the episode for me. 

And now another Droughtlander begins. (Sigh.)

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13 hours ago, WatchrTina said:

It's been a while since I read the books so I honestly didn't remember Ian riding to Jamie's rescue at the end.

Heh. I've only read the buik once, and I dinna recall if Wee Ian saved them or if Jamie and Claire needed saving? I've read here that in the buik, Clare stayed at the governor's home under house arrest or something, during her "trial" and I don't even recall that.

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On 5/2/2022 at 2:01 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

I would have enjoyed the shootout had there been more casualties.

Is it weird that I wanted that, too?  Jamie is supposed to be an excellent shot.  Take someone out Mac Dubh!

On 5/2/2022 at 3:21 PM, Cdh20 said:

Did Jamie figure out that Tom is in love with Claire when he saw him staring at her? 

Definitely.  I think it all clicked for him there.

On 5/3/2022 at 6:21 AM, Haleth said:

I'm frustrated the Christie storyline will carry over to next season.

Me too.  I wish all of this had been more of a minor plot point on the way to the Revolution.  I think the Bugs and the gold is a more compelling storyline from Book 6.  

On 5/3/2022 at 7:58 PM, WatchrTina said:

I hate, hate, HATE the Christie storyline and the only thing I hate MORE is that creepy guy in the tricorn hat (I can't be bothered to remember his name) and his bullshit "committee of safety."

110% agree.  

13 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I dinna recall if Wee Ian saved them or if Jamie and Claire needed saving

Yes.  Ian trails Jamie and Claire after Brown takes them.  The scene in the bushes with Jamie and Ian is from the book.  When Brown breaks J&C apart, Ian goes with Jamie, who yells at Ian to follow Claire.  Jamie and Ian regroup and start tracking Claire, who ends up in a jail cell with a petty thief, she delivers a baby, and tries to befriend the warden's drunkard wife.  The Governor's aid comes to the jail looking for a midwife and takes Claire to the Governor's mansion to tend to the Governor's wife.  While she's there, she becomes his secretary.  When things start to turn politically for him, he takes her to a ship offshore.  As they are leaving for the ship, Jamie sees her.  

She never actually has a trial.  Tom Christie comes to the ship to confess, and eventually Jamie comes to the ship to get Claire.  

It's all a whirlwind and more than a little eyeroll inducing, so I hope we get a condensed version of that nonsense in Season 7.  

 

Agree with a point in the Show only thread that it would have been so good if Claire heard Donner whistling in the jail cell and then the show fades to black.  What was the point of showing him earlier in the season to do nothing with it, especially something so obvious?

 

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On 5/3/2022 at 4:50 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

I knew it wouldn't be resolved when I read this season was only going to be eight episodes. No way it was going to be resolved unless the last two episodes were two hours. Which, o' course, they weren't.

 

Agreed.  I would have liked for that storyline to wrap up, but there's just too much left.

On 5/4/2022 at 9:40 PM, SassAndSnacks said:

I wish all of this had been more of a minor plot point on the way to the Revolution.  I think the Bugs and the gold is a more compelling storyline from Book 6.  

110% agree.  

Yes.  Ian trails Jamie and Claire after Brown takes them.  The scene in the bushes with Jamie and Ian is from the book.  When Brown breaks J&C apart, Ian goes with Jamie, who yells at Ian to follow Claire.  Jamie and Ian regroup and start tracking Claire, who ends up in a jail cell with a petty thief, she delivers a baby, and tries to befriend the warden's drunkard wife.  The Governor's aid comes to the jail looking for a midwife and takes Claire to the Governor's mansion to tend to the Governor's wife.  While she's there, she becomes his secretary.  When things start to turn politically for him, he takes her to a ship offshore.  As they are leaving for the ship, Jamie sees her.  

She never actually has a trial.  Tom Christie comes to the ship to confess, and eventually Jamie comes to the ship to get Claire.  

It's all a whirlwind and more than a little eyeroll inducing, so I hope we get a condensed version of that nonsense in Season 7. 

I'm sure they will cut out some of the story about Claire and the jail and the Governor, etc.  Taking her to a jail does change things a bit.

I do think they're laying the groundwork for the Bugs.  They did that flashback last year with the gold, and Mr. Bug has made several trips to River Run.  It doesn't seem like there would be another reason to include that if they weren't intending to finish that story.

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Annnd, I'm finally done. Maybe, Bree, if you're going to go with the Jemmy has lice and needs a haircut bit, don't then immediately lay your heavy hair directly on top of his head.

I'm at the point I respect Jamie a little bit less every time the dour Presbyterians act like total asshats toward his family and he just ... takes it. If the people living on your largesse come for you with literal flaming torches and pitchforks and the next moment you're not occupied with a shitty posse you don't evict the whole lot of them, well then, you know they're going to come for you again a couple more books down the road and that's kind of on you. The shootout seriously ate more than the first 8 minutes of the show, yet barely took out anything but the glassware. 

The wagon ride that felt like it went on forever at least did a decent job at capturing that sense from the book of them riding around almost aimlessly looking for a still functioning court as the revolution is starting to kick into high gear and a whole lot of official government posts are being abandoned. I thought it first time I saw both actors and I still think that seeing Brown and Tom Christie side by side they really probably shouldn't have cast actors who look so similar. I did enjoy Jaimie watching Tom watching Claire and slowly putting 2 and 2 together as where Tom's motivations lay in tagging along on this voyage of the damned.

The Jamie-Claire sex scene at least made sense within the story, that they're about to be taken into this scary situation and realize if things go sideways may not have another chance at it. Bree and Roger went on forever and only highlights how little chemistry the two actors have together.

Good ending with Ian to the rescue even if it's not where I would have chosen to end it.

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On 5/30/2022 at 10:08 PM, nodorothyparker said:

The shootout seriously ate more than the first 8 minutes of the show, yet barely took out anything but the glassware.

That reminds me, my Mom thought there should have been a fire because the dining table fell over with a lit candle on it.

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