S05.E16: Unfinished Business/Tell All Part 1

[Back Atcha]

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

Someone should have asked whose pics he looks at while he whacks.  Maybe an ex lol?

Maybe photos of himself back when he had a full head of hair?

[lilysmom]

1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

"God bless you" is "oh for crying out loud go away and leave me alone", in Jesus. 

Well, if the shoe fits, Kim. 

Why didn't she just wear a baseball cap? 

I thought the same thing, but then I thought it might be too soon for a joke about hair.

[Back Atcha]

5 hours ago, winsomeone said:

Ben and Mike had the nerve to actually laugh at Gino?

The King and Court Jester of Delusional World.

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32 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

Also who TF is Jessica?  She wasn't part of the season, but now she's on the Tell-All? Fuckery!

I recall her giving him advice at a restaurant before he left on the trip and then again via video call.

[Back Atcha]

Is there a FORUM for the TELL ALL?

[Stuckathome]

Not one to stereotype but Jessica looked like a megachurch/televangelist preacher's wife...haha, something about the hair and the bling and the way she speaks. I barely remember her showing up before, so....How TF did Gino connect with her? He honestly may just be such a socially awkward dweeb he genuinely wants to chat w/these women (cause come on he probably is DMing others) out of loneliness. When he tries to chat w/Jas it is probably all her complaining about how she wishes she was there to drain his balls. 

[Back Atcha]

9 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

Not one to stereotype but Jessica looked like a megachurch/televangelist preacher's wife...haha, something about the hair and the bling and the way she speaks.

I'll let others answer your questions, but you just hit on something great!  If BEN can only see his way clear to date an "older woman" (still younger than he is)...that combination could probably make a killing on television.  They could broadcast in America, Panama, and other gullible countries that understand English and Spanish.  "Brother Ben and Sister Jas IN YOUR HEARTS"

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23 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

Is there a FORUM for the TELL ALL?

The first hour was part of this episode and the second part will be next week’s episode.

[Baltimore Betty]

13 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

I'll let others answer your questions, but you just hit on something great!  If BEN can only see his way clear to date an "older woman" (still younger than he is)...that combination could probably make a killing on television.  They could broadcast in America, Panama, and other gullible countries that understand English and Spanish.  "Brother Ben and Sister Jas IN YOUR HEARTS"

I binged the Righteous Gemstones...your post is making think of Ben being a televangelist is cracking me up.

[kristen111]

On 4/2/2022 at 1:09 AM, MrBuhBye said:

Jasmine is queen of the ugly cry.

She’s still auditioning for an Actress part in American movies.  She looked old crying.  Yeah, she loves him, lol.  Bad actress.

[Breedom]

4 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Mike is the most pathetic creature in human history. Imagine the nerve of judging a man who uses escorts when you're bankrolling a woman who hates you. At least in a sugar baby set-up, both parties know the deal. Mike is under the delusion he's in a relationship when in reality he's buying pity sex from a poor single mom.

These were my exact thoughts. Thank you! Mike, acting like he's all that in his "secure" relationship with X, with him giggling and laughing at Gino. Like he's in a different place than Gino. Not all all, bud.

I was surprised that X and Mike were back together, but didn't understand why X looked so incredibly angry on the show. And yes, it was pure disappointment for me that X somehow went back to that blurb. BUT. In the preview for next week she walks out on him, and my heart burst with happiness. I suspect that Mike wouldn't let her go, stalking via text, harassing, making deals like suggesting the two homes, anything this sad sack could come up with and he just wouldn't let it be and accept the finality of their "togetherness" being over. So the final straw: X pretending she is back with Mike temporarily, then BAM - announcing once and for all to deer-caught-in-the-headlights Mike, that's IT'S OVER. That would definitely make an impact in cutting all ties and humiliating him enough for him to finally move on. One might think, anyway.

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by Breedom
Left out two words.

[kristen111]

I just feel sorry for Noxema’s two boys.  They must see men come and go.  Plus, her parents condone this?  For someone so poor, those tats are really necessary on her.

 

[Sir RaiderDuck OMS]

3 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

I just feel sorry for Noxema’s two boys.  They must see men come and go.  Plus, her parents condone this?  For someone so poor, those tats are really necessary on her.

We're talking about someone who deliberately got pregnant on a prison conjugal visit with a drug dealer/hitman. Good life decisions are not exactly her forte.

[glitterpussy]

2 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

I'm in the camp of those who understand the poverty and difficulties for many women trying to earn a living in Colombia.  She finally found a job that is SAFE and where she can make enough money to support herself, her two children, her mother, AND her sister. "Practically a prostitute," hmmm...but she's doing something that's legal and usually not dangerous--unless she makes the mistake of accepting money outside her job...and actually meeting one of her customers.  Mike is an unstable man--one of many.  I hope it's a lesson learned

I'll go further and say sex work IS work. I'm not going to look down on X because of that. She's got a family to support and limited ways to do it. Mike absolutely knew the trade-off of money for sex, but he's so utterly repulsive that X can't do it even for the $$$$🤣

I think it's actually to her CREDIT that she called it off rather than continuing to milk him, which would be so easy.

[essexjan]

9 minutes ago, glitterpussy said:

I'll go further and say sex work IS work. I'm not going to look down on X because of that. She's got a family to support and limited ways to do it. Mike absolutely knew the trade-off of money for sex, but he's so utterly repulsive that X can't do it even for the $$$$🤣

I think it's actually to her CREDIT that she called it off rather than continuing to milk him, which would be so easy.

Absolutely. Ximena is no angel, and when she saw a chance to do something easier than sex work (that is, sponging off Mike), she grabbed it with both hands. I don't blame her. In her position, uneducated, single mom with two kids, her options are limited. But the reality of dealing with Mike was so unpleasant that staying with him was a step too far for her.

Edited April 4, 2022 by essexjan

[Breedom]

2 hours ago, FrancescaFiore said:

And what, the producers let the cast see all but the final episode of the season just so they could spring the Zara call on Kim & capture all of her humiliation on camera? Just ghoulish. 

I was wondering about that . . . the cast must watch the shows back, so why was Kim surprised when she found out that Usman called Zara? Very satisfying for me then that she truly didn't know, what with the possibility of the cast not seeing the last show. I only wish they had played more of it for Kim - for example, the knowledge of him calling Zara while she most likely was still at the airport, etc. Guess she knows now, as of last night. 

Kimbelly's son was impressive. He was totally honest in his thoughts and feelings.

In the waiting room before the show it was clear to me that Kim thought she was the successful one, the big kahuna, thinking Usman was truly and utterly in love with her and she was his "girlfriend" while the others were floundering. Flirting with Ben like she was all that. No, Kim, you can join the rest of the pack of losers on this show now. You didn't find love at all.

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59 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

They must see men come and go.  

Literally.

32 minutes ago, glitterpussy said:

 

I think it's actually to her CREDIT that she called it off rather than continuing to milk him, which would be so easy.

Brain bleach!

[Kid]

36 minutes ago, glitterpussy said:

I'll go further and say sex work IS work. I'm not going to look down on X because of that. She's got a family to support and limited ways to do it. Mike absolutely knew the trade-off of money for sex, but he's so utterly repulsive that X can't do it even for the $$$$🤣

I think it's actually to her CREDIT that she called it off rather than continuing to milk him, which would be so easy.

I have to agree with this COMPLETELY!! During the first trip, I believe she was still giving him the “girlfriend experience.”  (Remember when Raj and Leonard bought the girlfriend experience for Howard  Vegas???   The sex worker even acted like she was Jewish!  🤣🤣🤣). When it was obvious that he was actually believing the delusion, she saw she was going to have to just be straight with him.

[TazDevil]

4 hours ago, TipseyGirl said:

And now BenYameen is annoyed. Tiny cowboy hat is HIS trademark, damnit.

Mother Chantel was the trendsetter of that look!!  😂😂🤠

[greekmom]

3 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

Is there a FORUM for the TELL ALL?

This is the forum for the Tell All Part 1 since it was coupled with the episode.

 

[Auntie Anxiety]

5 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

 

Jas posted on insta a few days ago that yes, that is a wig on the tell all. She said she has been losing a lot of hair and felt self conscious about showing up on tv semi bald, so she went for the most outrageous wig she could find. 

 

It would have been easier for her to borrow one of Gino's hats.

[TzuShih]

Usman's "outfit??" Insecure rapper Soulja Boy looked more like a deposed tribal prince.  👹  Made him look older and detracted from the image he's been trying to portray for 2 seasons.  I normally really like African designs.  Maybe the colors "washed him out."  😴 💤  Oh well, seems like Kimmbaaarly (& maybe her son)  could soon 'take him out' in a family military coup.

[bravofan27]

I loved how Mike loved Jasmine's critizing of Gino's libido. He grinned ear to ear everytime Jasmine put Gino down.

Gino, for whatever reason, is a 15 year old in terms of mindset. I think that's why he wears the cap-- he doesn't like to be reminded about his aging. 

The tell all was pretty drab-- the only new thing that came out was that Gino hit on Ben's friend. 

Gino and Ben are the prototype for the guys on dating sites. Just awful humans, super self absorbed, broken, and immature-- and in their 50's. UHG. 

[Auntie Anxiety]

This Week’s Winners and Losers:

Winner: The waitress at Gino’s favorite takeout pizza joint, who is no longer in Jasmine’s cross-hairs, now that Jasmine is directing her anger and jealousy toward Gino’s ball-draining left hand.

Honorable Mention: Kim’s son, who is now surer than ever that living across the country from his mother was one of the smartest decisions he’s ever made.

Loser: Mike, who thought that XXXimena would finally proclaim her love for him post breast implant and tummy tuck procedures even though she told him prior to the surgery that she didn’t and never would love him, yet he decided the “sunk cost fallacy/don’t throw good money after bad” business model didn’t apply to him.

Next Week: Ellie goes to the ladies’ room during a break, finds herself wedged between the toilet and the sink, calls for the closest male backstage worker to help and ends up accidentally tripping onto his penis on the way out.

Edited April 4, 2022 by Auntie Anxiety

[kristen111]

2 hours ago, essexjan said:

Absolutely. Ximena is no angel, and when she saw a chance to do something easier than sex work (that is, sponging off Mike), she grabbed it with both hands. I don't blame her. In her position, uneducated, single mom with two kids, her options are limited. But the reality of dealing with Mike was so unpleasant that staying with him was a step too far for her.

Yes .. you are right.  I missspoke about her.  Two kids, probably no education, etc.  She was left supporting the family.   Why is everything on her?

[magemaud]

 

NM, see next post

 

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by magemaud

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Not one to stereotype but Jessica looked like a megachurch/televangelist preacher's wife..

Well, that makes sense since her husband is Ben's friend. 

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, FrancescaFiore said:

And what, the producers let the cast see all but the final episode of the season just so they could spring the Zara call on Kim & capture all of her humiliation on camera?

I always thought the cast didn't see any of the episodes before the Tell All since there have often been surprises but maybe they see a couple that air early in the season before the Tell All is filmed. 

[magemaud]

33 minutes ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

Honorable Mention: Ben’s ill-fitting gaucho hat, which managed to stage a heart-pumping escape with the help of an Uber driver, and no longer has to worry about sitting atop that perverted douchebag narcissist’s head.

Unfortunately, the escape was short lived since he was shown wearing it on the way to the airport! 

[Auntie Anxiety]

1 minute ago, magemaud said:

Unfortunately, the escape was short lived since he was shown wearing it on the way to the airport! 

What with all the action on the live chat, I barely have time to look up from the keyboard. I’ll give it some thought and revise. 

[Back Atcha]

2 hours ago, kristen111 said:

But the reality of dealing with Mike was so unpleasant that staying with him was a step too far for her.

And wouldn't that "reality" be a step too far for most of us--those of us who appear to be admirable women, maybe wives and mothers...upstanding citizens and employees?  HOW  anyone can take Mike's side in this is beyond award-winning ME!

P.S.  Did he think that those watching the Tell All hadn't seen his dangerous-when-crossed streak on national TV?

Edited April 5, 2022 by Back Atcha

[FrancescaFiore]

13 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I always thought the cast didn't see any of the episodes before the Tell All

It seemed pretty clear to me that they had seen the episodes. Kim was very judgy about Ella having "cheated on" and "lied to" Johnny. (That confused me - what was the lie? How was that cheating? But I digress...) Kim also seemed to have some opinions about Ben's whole situation. There was also some pre-taping joking about Gino wearing his hat, which the cast wouldn't have known was a whole thing without having seen the episodes. 

[Back Atcha]

2 hours ago, Breedom said:

In the waiting room before the show it was clear to me that Kim thought she was the successful one, the big kahuna, thinking Usman was truly and utterly in love with her and she was his "girlfriend" while the others were floundering. Flirting with Ben like she was all that. No, Kim, you can join the rest of the pack of losers on this show now. You didn't find love at all.

Q: Why WAS Loser Kim so drawn to Loser Ben?    And now I'll steal most of Breedom's first line, "In the waiting room before the show it was so clear to me that BEN thought he was the successful one, the big Kahuna...."   A: Peas in a Pod!

[kristen111]

4 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

And wouldn't that "reality" be a step too for for most of us--those of us who appear to be admirable women, maybe wives and mothers...upstanding citizens and employees?  HOW  anyone can take Mike's side in this is beyond award-winning ME!

P.S.  Did he think that those watching the Tell All hadn't seen his dangerous-when-crossed streak on national TV?

I was so disgusted with Bens preaching to her and both of them going in and out of the car that I changed the channel and missed the tell all.  I never saw Mike and what happened.  I’ll catch it on demand, I hope.

[Frozendiva]

The 'finale':

Memphis and Hamza, if you were 22 years old, those t-shirts might be cute. Sad to say, but they seemed to be the best of the sorry lot of folks this season. Hamza genuinely was sad to see her go.

Ximena and Mike - so, Ximena did pull a fast one and did not let Mike come over to say goodbye. He still contacted after it was very clear that the relationship was over that he planned to marry her Sept. 1. Ximena, drop his number/block his number. Not much the authorities can do unless he actually escalates and does something to her. Mike, you will have a broken heart for a while but at some point, you may find a suitable woman. Or not.

Jasmine and Gino - don't get the deal with Ms. I Want to be a Telenovela Star. The jealousy issues are out of control and almost anything sets her off. No idea what she sees in Gino unless he is the only dude who will put up with her brand of crazy.

Usman - how low-classy of you to contact Zara when your 'potential' is either at the airport lounge or on the plane home. Couldn't reflect on things and wait a day or so, huh. Zara still doesn't seem too keen on meeting up with you.

Hogs and Ben - he is persistent. The girl has made it very clear to him that she has no interest in a relationship with him. At least not at the moment. Maybe things will change and his idea of God will bring them together again at some point. Felt bad when the producers sort of rescued her and put her inside the car. Ben, go home and do some serious reflecting on your behaviour.

The Tell-All:

Jasmine and Gino - a lot of TMI. Talking about Gino's meat made me think about the meatless sausages you sometimes see at the store, and they are are weirdly shrivelled. So Jas is a sugar baby girl. Good luck with Gino. No idea why she loves him, why him even saying hi to another woman is a problem for her. Being friendly to someone is not cheating. Jasmine needs to find a counsellor who can help her figure out why almost anything Gino or any man does is cheating when it isn't.

Ella and Johnny - no idea why she was being dragged by Kimbaaaaly for 'cheating' on Johnny.  She and Johnny just seem to be weird online pals and until they actually do meet and begin an actual physical relationship, both should be free to go out with others. Unless there is a plan to get together, it's all just talk. No idea if Kimbaaaaaly was picking on her because of her size or what - Kimbaaaaaaly is better than her. Uh, no, not really.

Kimbaaaaaly and Usman - she thinks she made the big score, landing herself Usman.  She didn't like Benny telling her she was a predator. Maybe she fancies herself as a Samantha type from Sex and the City and thinks of herself as equal to a dude and she can go out and have fun and pursue what she wants. She isn't. She's clingy. Usman is not a catch. Her son got some good stuff in, but his mom is not going to change. She is stubborn and will overlook Usman's red flags. She's a potential.... nothing.

Hogs and Ben - not much from them this week. Did not care for his lion and gazelle comment. He is a predator. He has no business judging Mike and Gino.

Memphis and Hamza - not much from them. Hamza looked far too good, Memphis can clean up nicely, but her dress was an aspiring wardrobe malfunction.

Ximena and Mike - he continues to be clueless. Guess he figures that they are back on. Who knows. 

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1 hour ago, TzuShih said:

Usman's "outfit??" Insecure rapper Soulja Boy looked more like a deposed tribal prince.  👹  Made him look older and detracted from the image he's been trying to portray for 2 seasons.  I normally really like African designs.  Maybe the colors "washed him out."  😴 💤  Oh well, seems like Kimmbaaarly (& maybe her son)  could soon 'take him out' in a family military coup.

Looked like he was auditioning for Coming to America 3.

23 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

It seemed pretty clear to me that they had seen the episodes. Kim was very judgy about Ella having "cheated on" and "lied to" Johnny. (That confused me - what was the lie? How was that cheating? But I digress...) Kim also seemed to have some opinions about Ben's whole situation. There was also some pre-taping joking about Gino wearing his hat, which the cast wouldn't have known was a whole thing without having seen the episodes. 

I think the Tell All was taped like a month ago, so they have seen many but not all of the episodes.

[Toaster Strudel]

Ella and Johny: ★★☆☆☆

This is going to be a real 🌶️ 🔥 hot 🔥 🌶️ air balloon take. Cheating is cheating, and Ella cheated. No question. However, on the Cheating Gravity Scale™, her transgressions are imponderous. Why, you ask? There's a whole bulky planet between them, and there is no way he will ever unburden his load in her heft. They are just two mounds of meat separated by vast distances, SexTiming© while weighed down by moppy wigs, ample dollar store kimonos, and various Day-After-Halloween-Sale banal ballast. Nothing will ever come of it. Johny will never inherit that highly valuable, immense ranch.

We have seen episode upon episode of "are you coming?" "no I'm not coming" variations (keep your minds out of the sewer, please!), and Ella melting into tears like butter separating on a hot summer day.

The real story is her long-pile rug plumped up with copious dog piss stains and a generous helping of dessicated turds - the remnants of housefly all-you-can-suction buffets. That living, teeming carpet is worth a whole red giant star in the rating.

So I say, let's borrow a big skein from grandpa Berkowitz' large collection, and raise an overflowing stout 🍺 of Ella tears to this colossal waste of time!

Note: all puns intented. Count them!

Hagberly and Use-man: ★★☆☆☆

This transaction between a Nigerian gigolo specializing in services to the American elderly and his client (affectionately known as his prospective girlfriend) has led to vocal dissatisfaction (evidenced by Hagberly's loud complaints, and deeply felt by anyone hearing him 'sing') and deserves a poor BBB rating. From the onset, the "relationship" and its vague, feigned promise of the weighing and considering of plural marriage was never more than a marketing ploy, in the tradition of "Wesley" aka "Jesse."

In a way, this is a repeat of Big Girl Lisa, only Use-man has wisened up and streamlined his product. No actual nuptials this time! Payment is upfront in the form of bespoke baubles, hard to find video game consoles and consumer electronics. Is Hagberly nervy? Is she demanding? Is she vociferous? Is she entitled? Yes! Wouldn't you be if your hairdresser refused to pick up the scissors, your dentist denied you checking your teeth, or your rapper gigolo needed to be begged to squirt the mayo? Having said that, no matter the circumstances, boundaries and consent continue to apply, Hagberly!

If everything goes as planned for Use-man, his DMs will be flooded with more hags desperate to send him their welfare and pensions for a bit of attention and fantasy. If it panned out for that horse-faced gorgon Hagberly, surely it will pan out for them too. Mohamed made a fortune that way from crones who thought they were better than Danielle and were more than willing to throw coin his way.

Zanzibar was boring. The Tourism Bureau really dropped the ball, which is one more ball dropped than Use-man.

Klanlina and Kay-leb: ★★★★☆

Sure the racist elf got cancelled but it was amusing for all the wrong reasons. I'm not going toe spell it out for you all. But we're all trotting off to heel hell in Satan's little hoof steps.

Mamm'phis? Nagphis? and Quickza: ★★★☆☆

There was a lot to enjoy! Gentle, kindly Hayet and her love of cats and her children, beautiful and wise Rawia, Mamm'phis feeling like she found family. There is a chance that language was an issue, but Mamm'phis looked so alone and disconnected at the center of her own wedding ceremony. That poor girl is broken - it's easy to see why when we see her idiot mother and hear her idiot advice.

Marrying someone within weeks of meeting them will always be foolish, but it can work, look at Avery and Omar. But asking your fiancé to promise to sign a document that doesn't even exist, is an exercise in futility. Hamza is right, our girl Mamm'phis is always looking for problems, and creating them by becoming pregnant so fast. He's barely out of his mother's house and being thrown into married life with two older kids he hasn't met, a newborn, and a painful lack of ability to express himself in English. Plus, he has to learn to postpone ejaculation ASAP in order to avoid further public humiliation.

The Unhappily Ever After is going to be lit. 🔥🔥🔥

That Snotty Incel MAGA Mike and Thugmena: ★★★★★

Do we love the shows' editors or what? They sure took us for a ride, first making MAGA Mike appear like a pitiable, harmless simp being taken to the cleaners by a streetwise, predatory woman who lied to him about her ability to have children. He is welcomed with open arms by the whole family, meets the adorable kids, burps, farts, leaves covid-suspect tissues in people's cars. He proposes and Thugmena accepts, probably at her family's urging.

A happy ending!

But no... the impersonation of dry heaves needs to go back to Colombia to deny the breast implants in person, with feces stuck to his shoes for emphasis. The love story falls off a cliff as we discover than he is a controlling Nice Guy. It turns out, he sought out an economically desperate sex worker from a "race" he considers inferior to better lord it over her, demean her, and trap her with a few rolls of dimes - all the while professing his "love" and that she needs to come back to her sense and recognize that his sorry ass is the "best thing that ever happened to her." Some guy actually told me that once, his voice growing fainter as I watched him in my rear view mirror. I can't even recall his accursed name.

Go punch the walls in grandpa's attic where you live with bats that have more attractive faces than you, MAGA Mike! Seriously, you haven't lived if you haven't googled "bat face." it's pretty amazing.

Jealousmine and Stingino: ★★★★★

Arrright people, wake up! This is not the romance of the century where a gorgeous, witty (if volatile) bombshell is flooding her panties at the sight of a man so ugly, that ugly is attractive. Jealousmine cares not for this easily-manipulated, porn-addicted, miserly, nasal-voiced, fool. You all saw how drab and witless he is, his toes constantly curling and unfurling in the macerated sandals, his uninterrupted flow of easy yet transparent lies, and deer-in-headlights reaction to just about everything.

For your edification: porn-addicted men are more likely to suffer from erectile dysfunction and are less likely to be satisfied with sexual intercourse. They take longer to achieve orgasm, and need to indulge in increasingly extreme content to produce arousal. That's who goes for Sugar Babies. Impotent men who want the close company of living blow up dolls without the pressure of performance because they would fail. Thank you, Learning Channel.

Jealousmine is also a liar. She claimed to hate liars, but there she was, trying to administer a huge suppository to the fan base: a friend signed her up for a sugar baby site and she had no idea it was a sugar baby site. Girl, please! Call Ben if you want designer benzo hobo wine at the romantic Red Roof Inn - you two brazen liars belong together.

Are you fooled by her practiced tears and her hollow, over-enthusiastic, and very public declarations of love? I am unmoved. More than an elaborate lie, it's a complete farce, a Broadway musical, and a howling hoot. There is no exaggeration too outlandish. I am a vegan but I need your meat! You are so good in bed, Stingino! Drain those balls! She's not subtle but I guess she needs to lay it on thick to get through to that smut video enthusiast. She knows what she's doing.

Ben-zo and Filterogany: ★★★★★

Oh boy this is my favorite story. It's got everything.

• Suspicions of catfishing
• A silly 22-yr old overusing filters to devoutly flirt with international suitors for fun and profit
• Said 22-yr old makes the classic mistake of thinking that religious guys are safer and less crazy than the religiously indifferent or atheists
• Creepy old, washed out youth pastor
• Huuuuuge clucking liar, absolutely brazen, I bet some morons believe him every once in a while
• One half-dead googley eye set in a face like a chunk of tree bark
• Religious abuse and manipulation of much younger, impressionable and too-trusting religious people
• His ex-wife and children are rightfully disgusted by him, he makes their skin crawl and they're not hiding it
• Substance abuse
• Patronizing restaurants by piously ordering only water
• Holier-than-thou "helping homeless people at a Red Roof Inn" two days' drive from home, probably to get high meeting some weirdo god-fearing prostitute
• Relentlessly domineering, angry, and dangerous
• God justifies his every degenerate, perverted impulse
• Victim was filmed at secure locations, had her own hotel room, and parents were never too far.
• Ten page rants
• His texts to Filterogany show that he was hoping she would knock on his door for sex
• Victim had to run under the producers' aprons to escape Benzo Ben, and they failed her by not protecting her more pro-actively - though Ben forcefully demanding to lecture her with "His Truth" was TV gold.
• In Benzo Ben's mental schema, Filterogany has zero agency. God has decided that he will have her, she has no choice, all Ben has to do is to persist until God's will materializes and she submits to him
• "I must pursue it to the bitter, bitter end."
• Glorious rejection of Ben as a suitor.
• Proudly admits to being a sexual predator

Edited April 5, 2022 by Toaster Strudel
Possible spoilers removed

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

I can't believe Gino would rather masturbate than put his pee pee in Jasmine's wee wee.

I think he might be lazy in the sack or has issues performing when an actual person is part of the equation...maybe he thinks, (I am embarrassed to type this), "It's a small load, I'll do it by hand." 

[Back Atcha]

44 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Usman - how low-classy of you to contact Zara when your 'potential' is either at the airport lounge or on the plane home.

And STOOPID--you're ON TELEVISION!  Kim is going to see it. ZARA is going to see it.  You're such a loser; your only fans must be the execs at TLC.

[Back Atcha]

56 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

 Ximena, drop his number/block his number.

"Prolly" can't do it until her TLC contract runs out ... OR ... "the authorities" are forced to intervene.

57 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Not much the authorities can do unless he actually escalates and does something to her.

YEP!  There are organizations more efficient and effective in Colombia; Ximena may have some contacts.

59 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

No idea if Kimbaaaaaly was picking on her because of her size or what -

Was Kim-BAH-Leeee one of the women who had lost quite a bit of weight, so now SHE can bully overweight women?

[Back Atcha]

Just before the start of the "tell all," and a production assistant escorted Ben away for further interviews, I thought we wouldn't see him again.  I figured "the authorities" were there to drag him away...crying.

[Breedom]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

No idea what she sees in Gino unless he is the only dude who will put up with her brand of crazy.

Jasmine let it be known that she found Gino's un-sexiness and nerdiness sexy. Is that a compliment? Not in my book.

X, hugging her mother and telling her "I always find the crazies!" I love that Mike will watch that little ditty and realize this is how he is thought of.

Pillow Talk: I don't usually watch this, but did see it last night. Brandon's folks are over-the-top with their loud, belligerent guffaws. Everything is hilariously humorous to them. Either that or they portray very sweet empathy. No realness, no in-between. Still better then Kalani and her sister. I cannot tolerate those two. Love Veronica and Tim though!

 

 

 

[KateHearts]

23 hours ago, AR Traveler said:

I found myself agreeing in part with Kimberly;  setting aside the merits of their "relationship", she went to Tanzania by invitation and went for what she wanted.  From her perspective, she knew what she wanted and didn't play little sexist, coy games.  That I have to give her.

Yes, although she was dealing with a more "traditional" man who probably (seemingly) is off-put by her aggressive pursuit. Doesn't seem that she was that forthright during their alleged year-long relationship since he seemed flummoxed that she demanded sex on arrival.

Jasmine was disgusting at the tell-all and I'm sorry but that was all just for shock factor. Geno is an idiot to sit there and let her insult his junk, his sexual performance and pretty much everything about him. On the slip side, he is the worst liar in the WORLD and stammers the minute he gets caught and I immediately know IT'S ANOTHER LIE!

I was getting upset watching Ben chase Mahogany to the point that she wasn't just over it; she seemed frightened. "Let me tell you what's on my heart!" NO BEN- I've seen many obtuse people on this show (Danielle comes to mind) but you are so naive and obtuse (and self-absorbed) that you don't understand clear signals that she is not interested (why was he focusing so much on the age difference??). I think he really views himself as the perfect catch ("lookit my hot body!") that he doesn't see the gaping flaws in his own personality.

Speaking of obtuse, there is Mike also. Ximena is at the point that she is okay with refusing his money just to get him the hell off her back. 

[kristen111]

4 hours ago, greekmom said:

This is the forum for the Tell All Part 1 since it was coupled with the episode.

 

Is the Tell All ever repeated or on demand?

[BitterApple]

2 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

 

• One half-dead googley eye set in a face like a chunk of tree bark

I just choked on a mouthful of macaroni and cheese. Please remind me not to read the boards while I'm eating dinner.💀💀🤣🤣🤣

1 hour ago, KateHearts said:

I was getting upset watching Ben chase Mahogany to the point that she wasn't just over it; she seemed frightened. 

It was definitely getting uncomfortable watching Mahogs fleeing from the car only for Ben to keep chasing her. I feel like this storyline should be used as a cautionary tale against catfishing. It's all fun and games until the creeper shows up on your doorstep. 

Edited April 5, 2022 by BitterApple

[Auntie Anxiety]

3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

has issues performing

Thus, his industrial sized bag full of generic Viagra. 

[Mrs. Landingham]

3 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

while weighed down by moppy wigs, ample dollar store kimonos, and various Day-After-Halloween-Sale banal ballast.

3 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

You all saw how drab and witless he is, his toes constantly curling and unfurling in the macerated sandals,

3 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

One half-dead googley eye set in a face like a chunk of tree bark

 

3 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

This transaction between a Nigerian gigolo specializing in services to the American elderly

I. Am. Deceased. Then I re-read your whole post and perished a second time. 😂

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2 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Is the Tell All ever repeated or on demand?

Looks like it’s repeated on Friday at 9 pm eastern time right before the 20 minute preview of Part 2.

 

https://www.tlc.com/shows/tv-schedule.2022.04.08.mobile

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4 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

One half-dead googley eye set in a face like a chunk of tree bark

Here’s a new game.  Guess how his eye got injured.  Did something caustic get squirted in it?  Was it poked with something? Was his retina scorched when the Angel Gabriel appeared to tell him to chase young poontang?

Edited April 5, 2022 by MrBuhBye

[magemaud]

7 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

What with all the action on the live chat, I barely have time to look up from the keyboard. I’ll give it some thought and revise. 

I think he was going to the airport in the same car Mahogany used for her getaway and she left the hat behind