Teriacky March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 If the guest host is auditioning for a permanent spot at the table she is going about it the wrong way, However… if she wishes to antagonize the audience AND the other women at the table, then she has succeeded. She’s still not getting the job though… 1 5 Link to comment
Rainyhawk March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, BeeBop88 said: I don't watch The View often and I see that Sunny hasn't changed one bit. She has such a smug look on her face most of the time and gives off the attitude that she knows everything and anyone that doesn't agree with her knows nothing. She doesn't handle diversity of opinion very well. Even though she claims she is a democrat, I think Sunny is a socialist. She agrees with AOC nearly 100% of the time, and AOC has said she is a socialist. Sunny is a very annoying. Social Democrat….there’s a difference. 3 hours ago, 2JEWELL said: Sunny is not always right. But, she knows what she believes and she knows how to articulate what she is trying to say. And today, just now, I loved her side-eye Yes. The woman hold Guantanamo bay crap Lindsay was spewing today is just that…crap. Sunny is absolutely right to break in to try to keep L from, yet again, putting out disinformation. Really don’t like this co host at all. 1 7 Link to comment
ForumLou March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 55 minutes ago, Teriacky said: If the guest host is auditioning for a permanent spot at the table she is going about it the wrong way, However… if she wishes to antagonize the audience AND the other women at the table, then she has succeeded. She’s still not getting the job though… I certainly hope not. A-W -F-U-L-! -! She kept interrupting, not Listening. And thought a cute pic of her baby in a laundry basket would make every one stop and awwwww which we did.Sunny was fit to be tied with everything she was babbling about. I'm just glad she left. 8 Link to comment
athousandclowns March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, ForumLou said: I certainly hope not. A-W -F-U-L-! -! She kept interrupting, not Listening. And thought a cute pic of her baby in a laundry basket would make every one stop and awwwww which we did.Sunny was fit to be tied with everything she was babbling about. I'm just glad she left. She was exhausting 1 2 Link to comment
Rainyhawk March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 So the discussion on the Caribbean was interesting. And they are right about the racism, slavery and other horrible things that occurred. One thing they seemed to have missed is that the Royal Family is not the political arm of the British government. They don’t make those decisions. Did they profit from the history..yes, as did the country. For policies, blame the actual government? and could Lindsay talk just a tinier bit slower? I can’t even follow her. 1 Link to comment
RealHousewife March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said: Sunny does have a bit of an ego and, I agree, she isn’t always right. But I’d say 8 times out of 10, she usually is... She’s probably the only one on the show who actually comes prepared with the facts on hand to read aloud. Yes, and let's be honest, it can make for good TV. Sunny can be a little passionate for my tastes, but I'm still a fan because she's a smart cookie, comes the most prepared, and I think her intentions are good. There are know-it-alls who almost get off on being mean and going for gotcha moments. That's not Sunny. When I watch her, I still think, this is a woman I respect and would want to be friends with. I can't say the same for some of the other hosts who've been on throughout the years. 8 Link to comment
Prairie Rose March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 8:36 PM, Prairie Rose said: I think you guys will like Lindsey (regular DBL viewer here). She's fun and upbeat without being loud and obnoxious. Boy, was I wrong! She has never been like this on DBL. She's also been a guest panelist on Joy Reid's and Tiffany Cross' MSNBC shows and was never like that there. I'm starting to suspect that Lindsey was asked to take the viewpoints she did and talk fast/interrupt at the behest of the producers and/or ABC. At this point, nothing would surprise me. 5 1 4 Link to comment
sugarbaker design March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said: Sunny was great in the second segment, deliberately calling out the guest for parroting racist talking points. Sunny can be a pain in the ass, but no one calls out liars like her! Where the frack did they find that woman? 1 9 Link to comment
geekburger March 23, 2022 Share March 23, 2022 (edited) Lindsey is getting surprisingly good reviews on Twitter. Not my favorite so far, personally. But it shows they need a non political pundit to fill that fifth seat. They are usually more all rounded and interesting. Edited March 23, 2022 by geekburger 3 Link to comment
Mldyold March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Rainyhawk said: So the discussion on the Caribbean was interesting. And they are right about the racism, slavery and other horrible things that occurred. One thing they seemed to have missed is that the Royal Family is not the political arm of the British government. They don’t make those decisions. Did they profit from the history..yes, as did the country. For policies, blame the actual government? and could Lindsay talk just a tinier bit slower? I can’t even follow her. There are articles written about the removing of the British influence (using the Queen) to welcome the money from China. I was pleased that Whoopie mentioned the American Indians in the reparation discussion. The Hawaiians were another group that lost their rights. 7 Link to comment
ForumLou March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 1:45 PM, Rightside said: Sunny is truly unbearable at this point! I now fast forward when she talks. I've been fast forwarding Sara since after they went remote because she is so scripted. Sunny just annoys and annoys. I don't think Sara is scripted. Only when she has to remember a name, or give a stat, she will look down and read it. I have no problem with that. She, in fact has the other disadvantage of fading into the background from,the other shall we say bigger, louder povs. 14 Link to comment
bluegirl147 March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 6:30 PM, OpalNightstream said: Sunny might annoy me a lot but she was on fire today when telling Lindsey how wrong she was. Lindsey was in way over her head trying to have a debate with Sunny. If i had only heard what Lindsey was saying I would have thought it was Candace Owens. As I said earlier she is awful. And Sara made some really good points today. Actually the regular four all made good points today. 1 13 Link to comment
Back Atcha March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 Do WE (they) really need another permanent host at the desk? If it's imperative, why not just find someone who's fun to talk to--to listen to and watch. Make it a woman; that's easiest. Ignore her ethnicity. Ignore her politics. OH! She can be young; she can be old, but she's GOTTA be SMART and believable. (Side note: I'm busy). 5 11 Link to comment
Back Atcha March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, Mldyold said: I was pleased that Whoopie mentioned the American Indians in the reparation discussion. The Hawaiians were another group that lost their rights. Whoopi tried to give information on the British colonization of India but Smugly Sunny ain't havin' it. If there's no reparation for the various Black peoples (mostly African, I guess, Sunny), then there's no further discussion 5 Link to comment
Back Atcha March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 Someone needs to coach Sunny on how to smile when she doesn't mean it. It's so fake; it's irksome. Tyra Banks' "smizes" are no good. Who's that cute presenter of all those "View Your Deal" products? She's very cute and SURELY she's not in love with every product--yet she oozes sincerity and speaks with a GREAT SMILE! SHE needs to coach Smugly Sunny. We know Sunny thinks she's someone who can do it all--including ACTING! Give it a go. OR...I prefer this idea. There's no need for Sunny to present anything or announce anything that requires her to smile when she doesn't want to. Again, it's irksome. 1 Link to comment
OpalNightstream March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Back Atcha said: Whoopi tried to give information on the British colonization of India but Smugly Sunny ain't havin' it. If there's no reparation for the various Black peoples (mostly African, I guess, Sunny), then there's no further discussion Yep! Sunny was dismissive when Whoopi tried to expand the topic to include other oppressed minorities. She couldn’t deviate from her message. 1 5 Link to comment
A.J. March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, ForumLou said: I don't think Sara is scripted. Only when she has to remember a name, or give a stat, she will look down and read it. I have no problem with that. She, in fact has the other disadvantage of fading into the background from,the other shall we say bigger, louder povs. I don't think Sara is scripted either. I like her a lot and hate that she is being overshadowed by the "bigger" voices at the table. Joy is being overshadowed as well. It has become the Sunny & Ana (when she is there) show. They need a better balance so that it doesn't seem like one or two people are hogging the concersation/show. Sunny is the worst lately. She really needs to hold back becasue she has almost become unbearable to watch. I too have started to fast forward when she talks. Whoopi, Joy & Sara are my favorites right now. 4 Link to comment
Back Atcha March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 48 minutes ago, OpalNightstream said: She couldn’t deviate from her message. Or REFUSES to! Perhaps she's the only oppressed minority who has made a success of her life. Let's have Padma Lakshmi as a guest to help "educate" Sunny as to other parts of the world treated so badly by white humans. 35 minutes ago, A.J. said: Sunny is the worst lately. She really needs to hold back becasue she has almost become unbearable to watch. 1 Link to comment
Axie March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 Thank God Sunny got to use her favorite word “reparations” today. It’s been a while. 2 5 Link to comment
maggiemae March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) I like Sunny but I was totally dismayed when she dismissed Native Americans, Asians, Hawaiian and Indian. Plus, plus, plus as Whoopi pointed out. Note to Sunny - no one is going to be paid back no matter what you want. Edited March 24, 2022 by maggiemae 11 Link to comment
KittyQ March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 I think that part of Lindsey's message got drowned out by Sunny. I think Lindsey was trying to make the valid point that while everyone should be aware of the inequities that minority people have had to bear, it doesn't help if the result is that black people perceive themselves as perpetual victims, instead of as resilient survivors with plenty of accomplishments to be proud of. She was saying that she wanted to see more emphasis on black excellence and achievement, and for some reason, Sunny (and probably some of the others - there was a lot of crosstalk going on) seemed to take that to mean that Lindsey was "buying into" Republican (and let's be honest, it isn't just Republicans) talking points. Sunny also said that Republicans wouldn't let anyone do anything to promote examples of black excellence, completely dismissing Lindsey's ideas. So much for listening to other points of view. 2 Link to comment
Haleth March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) Sara is partially scripted as she will come out with clever quips during her speeches that sound rehearsed, but I give her credit for thinking about and preparing answers before the show instead of trying to wing it. (Ana prepares her one liners too.) That's ok. I've come to value Sara's more moderate opinions. Edited March 24, 2022 by Haleth 9 Link to comment
bluegirl147 March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 8 hours ago, KittyQ said: I think that part of Lindsey's message got drowned out by Sunny. I think Lindsey was trying to make the valid point that while everyone should be aware of the inequities that minority people have had to bear, it doesn't help if the result is that black people perceive themselves as perpetual victims, instead of as resilient survivors with plenty of accomplishments to be proud of. Who says black people perceive themselves as victims? Lindsey's opinion is teaching about the horrific treatment black people have endured makes them think that way. So according to her let's stop teaching that and teach about black excellence. I don't understand why both can't be taught but Sunny made the better point which is Republicans don't want any black history taught. There was also this exchange: "Shouldn't parents want to normalize discussions about race and racism?" asked Hostin. "Sure, but it should be their choice to decide," replied Granger. Ignoring reality doesn't help anyone. 13 Link to comment
deirdra March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, maggiemae said: I like Sunny but I was totally dismayed when she dismissed Native Americans, Asians, Hawaiian and Indian. Plus, plus, plus as Whoopi pointed out. Note to Sunny - no one is going to be paid back no matter what you want. Wasn't it Sunny's Spanish ancestors who first enslaved Black (and Indigenous) people in the Caribbean, before the British took over the seas? British Royalty got rich centuries before they came to the Americas, exploiting lower class white people in Britain, just like wealthy Black Africans sold lower-class Black slaves to the highest bidder and the Indian caste system still thrives. Edited March 24, 2022 by deirdra 2 2 Link to comment
Ellis Bell March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 Hey Whoopi don't worry, I'll never refer to you as articulate, lol. New Drinking Game: Take a shot every time Sunny mentions "black, brown, African American, justice, racism" or "reparations" I guarantee you'll be under the table before the first segment is over. All kidding aside, I think she has major OCD and it has manifested itself in race. I know some here don't feel she talks about race too much but to me she comes across as obsessed. She shoehorns it into EVERY topic. Whoever said she'd attack a black painted building as being racist is spot on. 3 Link to comment
Pearson80 March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, maggiemae said: I like Sunny but I was totally dismayed when she dismissed Native Americans, Asians, Hawaiian and Indian. Plus, plus, plus as Whoopi pointed out. Note to Sunny - no one is going to be paid back no matter what you want. She did not dismiss other groups of people. The issue was about reparations for Black people all over the world due to our horrific past. She said nothing wrong. Edited March 24, 2022 by Pearson80 6 Link to comment
Mldyold March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 I haven't noticed Whoopie wearing slogans on her shirts/sweats before her week w/o pay. Did I not realize that she has always had a message on her clothes or is this just a subtle protest to management? Link to comment
Haleth March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mldyold said: I haven't noticed Whoopie wearing slogans on her shirts/sweats before her week w/o pay. Did I not realize that she has always had a message on her clothes or is this just a subtle protest to management? She does occasionally. This one says she’s not socially awkward but likes cats? Is that right? eta: I see now, yes, that’s right. Cute but kind of overtly casual for hosting a tv show. Edited March 24, 2022 by Haleth 1 Link to comment
Ellis Bell March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pearson80 said: She did not dismiss other groups of people. The issue was about reparations for Black people all over the world due to our horrific past. She said nothing wrong. SHE SAID NOTHING. With all due respect Sunny has no empathy toward anyone unless they're black or Puerto Rican. Everyone defends her as some sort of defender of victims' rights yet she's eerily silent when they're "other' as she loves to say. I noticed in yesterday's show Whoopi alluded to Asian bashing when John Cho was the guest and Sunny just sat there silently with that expression on her face. You'll notice they stopped covering Asian bashing when it became apparent the overwhelming majority of perpetrators are black, criminal (and once again) beneficiaries of bail reform, Sunny's legal passion. 3 Link to comment
KittyQ March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said: So according to her let's stop teaching that and teach about black excellence. I don't understand why both can't be taught but Sunny made the better point which is Republicans don't want any black history taught. I had the impression that Lindsey's idea was to not focus solely on the injustices but to include black excellence. However, it was hard to tell that because Sunny spoke over her. I think that Sunny's argument that Republicans don't want any black history taught is an overreach. The idea that opposition to the inclusion of recent "antiracist" material in school curriculums means that no black history is welcome is the leftist equivalent of what she called Republican talking points. Both are simplistic descriptions that contribute to divisive attitudes instead of helping people see what we have in common. I was disappointed that the hosts wouldn't let Lindsey explain her perspective without talking over her. It gives the impression that unless a guest completely agrees with the regular hosts, they are wrong. If they want to just hear themselves talk, then don't invite any guests who have different ideas. 2 Link to comment
Bronzedog March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 Not loving the purple/red combo Sara is wearing today. 3 Link to comment
RealHousewife March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, bluegirl147 said: Who says black people perceive themselves as victims? Lindsey's opinion is teaching about the horrific treatment black people have endured makes them think that way. So according to her let's stop teaching that and teach about black excellence. I don't understand why both can't be taught but Sunny made the better point which is Republicans don't want any black history taught. There was also this exchange: "Shouldn't parents want to normalize discussions about race and racism?" asked Hostin. "Sure, but it should be their choice to decide," replied Granger. Ignoring reality doesn't help anyone. I didn't get why Granger said that either. I understand wanting parents' permission for something like sex education, but race? And what's ironic is the same people who think kids are babied too much and need to toughen up are the first to freak about about "oh no, the children don't need to hear about race!" 8 Link to comment
Pearson80 March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RealHousewife said: I didn't get why Granger said that either. I understand wanting parents' permission for something like sex education, but race? And what's ironic is the same people who think kids are babied too much and need to toughen up are the first to freak about about "oh no, the children don't need to hear about race!" I got the impression that Granger did not really believe what she was saying. It was like she was playing a role to make sparks.. I have known Black people like her though who do not want to talk about our horrific past because it is overwhelming.. They just want to talk about Black excellence and nothing else. Edited March 24, 2022 by Pearson80 2 1 Link to comment
After7Only March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Ellis Bell said: You'll notice they stopped covering Asian bashing when it became apparent the overwhelming majority of perpetrators are black, criminal (and once again) beneficiaries of bail reform, Sunny's legal passion. This is not accurate. And I'll leave it at that. smh.... Edited March 24, 2022 by After7Only 13 Link to comment
bluegirl147 March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Pearson80 said: I got the impression that Granger did not really believe what she was saying. It was like she was playing a role to make sparks.. I have known Black people like her though who do not want to talk about our horrific past because it is overwhelming.. They just want to talk about Black excellence and nothing else. I also got that vibe. It felt like she was saying things just to be contrary. I had no idea who she was before she was on the View so I think she wanted to get some media attention. 2 minutes ago, After7Only said: I feel like I've heard other black conservatives use similar logic about black excellence vs black victimization. When I hear that "logic" it's usually part of the "I came from nothing and made it so why can't you" attitude. 5 Link to comment
Ellis Bell March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, After7Only said: This is not accurate. And I'll leave it at that. smh.... If you would please give an example it would be greatly appreciated. I have not seen any coverage of Asian bashing on this show save for the initial outrage when Robert Aaron Long killed spa workers in Atlanta who were mainly Asian women. I believe he said he was a sex addict who was not targeting the women because of race or ethnicity. They just happen to be the overwhelming majority of employees in these massage parlors.. 1 Link to comment
After7Only March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, Ellis Bell said: If you would please give an example it would be greatly appreciated. I have not seen any coverage of Asian bashing on this show save for the initial outrage when Robert Aaron Long killed spa workers in Atlanta who were mainly Asian women. I believe he said he was a sex addict who was not targeting the women because of race or ethnicity. They just happen to be the overwhelming majority of employees in these massage parlors.. Perhaps you missed the John Cho interview this week..... 4 Link to comment
OpalNightstream March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, After7Only said: Perhaps you missed the John Cho interview this week..... To be fair, it was only really mentioned because Cho is Asian. I don’t think Asian discrimination would have been a topic if he wasn’t the guest. It rarely ever is talked about unless an Asian guest is on. 1 Link to comment
Ellis Bell March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, After7Only said: Perhaps you missed the John Cho interview this week..... As I mentioned in a previous post, Whoopi alluded and Sunny remained silent. If it were one of her people (no offense to that term) she would have jumped on it and taken over the discussion. The funny thing is I really liked Sunny when she started on The View and I hated the way Whoopi would constantly interrupt her and be so dismissive of her legal opinions. Whoopi used to cut her off and tell her she was wrong! When Whoopi reveals her long-hidden law degree to the viewers maybe then I'll sit through a debate between her and Sunny on legal issues until then shut up and stop interrupting. As for other topics, I actually agreed with Sunny's much maligned opinion on Camilla. It's hit or miss with her but from my point of view her views on race are incredibly biased and she intentionally only gives facts when it suits the narrative aka her agenda. I'm sorry but she comes across as obsessive compulsive. Link to comment
GiveMeSpace March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 I have no doubt if Asian racism was brought up *too often*, the hosts would be accused of focusing on race too much. This seems to be one of those tell me you are a racist without telling me you are a racist situations. 7 Link to comment
After7Only March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 Just now, OpalNightstream said: To be fair, it was only really mentioned because Cho is Asian. I don’t think Asian discrimination would have been a topic if he wasn’t the guest. It rarely ever is talked about unless an Asian guest is on. And if Sunny and Whoopi wasn't on the View you might not hear as much about racism, and if Sarah and Joy wasn't on the show you might not hear as much about sexism. Thanks for making the point on why representation is important on TV. And I will confidently say that hate crimes against Indian Americans (also Asian) and the general topic of Asian hate crimes have been discussed on this show. But just like not every act of racism against Black or Latino people is not covered, not every crime against Asians will be either. And finally, let me clarify my original point. The bolded portion is not accurate and offensive. 49 minutes ago, After7Only said: You'll notice they stopped covering Asian bashing when it became apparent the overwhelming majority of perpetrators are black, criminal (and once again) beneficiaries of bail reform, Sunny's legal passion. 14 Link to comment
Pearson80 March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) I loved everything that the ladies said about Ketanji Brown Jackson in the first segment. That clip of Cory Booker that they showed addressing Ketanji about her historical nomination made me cry. What a beautiful homage to Black women.. Edited March 24, 2022 by Pearson80 13 Link to comment
Ellis Bell March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, After7Only said: And if Sunny and Whoopi wasn't on the View you might not hear as much about racism, and if Sarah and Joy wasn't on the show you might not hear as much about sexism. Thanks for making the point on why representation is important on TV. And I will confidently say that hate crimes against Indian Americans (also Asian) and the general topic of Asian hate crimes have been discussed on this show. But just like not every act of racism against Black or Latino people is not covered, not every crime against Asians will be either. And finally, let me clarify my original point. The bolded portion is not accurate and offensive. I'll leave it after this comment but the way the feds quantify and qualify hate crimes have more stringent guidelines for certain races, genders, gay, lesbian, etc, than they do for other races. Link to comment
OpalNightstream March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, After7Only said: And if Sunny and Whoopi wasn't on the View you might not hear as much about racism, and if Sarah and Joy wasn't on the show you might not hear as much about sexism. Thanks for making the point on why representation is important on TV. If they are aware of the lack of representation of other minorities then they should make an effort to cover topics about those other groups. They are doing the very thing they complain about. 1 Link to comment
TheGreenKnight March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 They talk about all forms of victims on this show, whether it's anti-Semitism, homophobia, etc. etc. Speaking of, I loved Sunny breaking down the story of one of the smears about future Justice Jackson today--the story about a LGBT teen. I suppose I could've looked up the details of these cases myself, but I just usually accept it's a lie and move on considering the source behind the smear. 7 hours ago, bluegirl147 said: Who says black people perceive themselves as victims? Lindsey's opinion is teaching about the horrific treatment black people have endured makes them think that way. So according to her let's stop teaching that and teach about black excellence. I don't understand why both can't be taught but Sunny made the better point which is Republicans don't want any black history taught. This. And I recall what Sunny said in response was, "They're banning those books, too!" And she's right, any book with a Black author or a Black protagonist is getting banned, so good luck Lindsey finding one for her child when she's supporting race-based book bans. What a sell-out. 4 hours ago, Ellis Bell said: New Drinking Game: Take a shot every time Sunny mentions "black, brown, African American, justice, racism" or "reparations" I guarantee you'll be under the table before the first segment is over. All kidding aside, I think she has major OCD and it has manifested itself in race. I know some here don't feel she talks about race too much but to me she comes across as obsessed. She shoehorns it into EVERY topic. Whoever said she'd attack a black painted building as being racist is spot on. I think something stands out more when the subject bothers you.... I personally don't think Sunny talks about Black issues any more than I would talk about gay issues as a gay person, for example. It's a part of her identity, she can't separate it from herself. Not much different than Elisabeth's "As a Christian...!" or Sherri's "As a mother...!" But at least Sunny doesn't repeat a phrase like they would do, lmao. 3 hours ago, KittyQ said: However, it was hard to tell that because Sunny spoke over her. Lindsey talked over the others much more than they did to her. IMO, Sunny started returning the favor the second day, which I'm fine with. I would do the same thing if someone screams over me or at me; usually if someone wants to play the loud equals right game, I just keep getting louder and louder and louder... It's the only thing that works with those types. Like it is with a child, once they learn they can't simply out-scream somebody, they usually stop. 11 Link to comment
Ellis Bell March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said: They talk about all forms of victims on this show, whether it's anti-Semitism, homophobia, etc. etc. Speaking of, I loved Sunny breaking down the story of one of the smears about future Justice Jackson today--the story about a LGBT teen. I suppose I could've looked up the details of these cases myself, but I just usually accept it's a lie and move on considering the source behind the smear. This. And I recall what Sunny said in response was, "They're banning those books, too!" And she's right, any book with a Black author or a Black protagonist is getting banned, so good luck Lindsey finding one for her child when she's supporting race-based book bans. What a sell-out. I think something stands out more when the subject bothers you.... I personally don't think Sunny talks about Black issues any more than I would talk about gay issues as a gay person, for example. It's a part of her identity, she can't separate it from herself. Quote Not much different than Elisabeth's "As a Christian...!" or Sherri's "As a mother...!" But at least Sunny doesn't repeat a phrase like they would do, lmao. Lindsey talked over the others much more than they did to her. IMO, Sunny started returning the favor the second day, which I'm fine with. I would do the same thing if someone screams over me or at me; usually if someone wants to play the loud equals right game, I just keep getting louder and louder and louder... It's the only thing that works with those types. Like it is with a child, once they learn they can't simply out-scream somebody, they usually stop. Oh Haleth, yesterday they were discussing masks in NYC for kids under (5?) and Sunny turned into another Oh woe is me episode when she recalled being the only black/PR person in her class. You're a minority in a private Catholic school, of course you're not going to be in the majority. So what the hell did that have to do with kids under five wearing masks to school??? As for Elizabeth, she drove me nuts with her God, God, God talk and no, I'm not an atheist. You don't have to be a bigot or an atheist or anti-time-wasting-punchline build-ups (Ana) in order to see when someone is so one note. It becomes predictable and boring very quickly and that's where I'm at with this current panel. They're so damn predictable So sorry, Greenknight I for some reason confuse you and Haleth, Edited March 24, 2022 by Ellis Bell Wrong name, (yes, I'm dumb.) 1 Link to comment
Ellis Bell March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, GiveMeSpace said: I have no doubt if Asian racism was brought up *too often*, the hosts would be accused of focusing on race too much. This seems to be one of those tell me you are a racist without telling me you are a racist situations. No, this seems to be one of those tell me you're tired of their biased topics without telling me you're tired of their biased topics. 1 Link to comment
TheGreenKnight March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 I was actually thinking this morning that this is the best panel since the Meredith / Star / Joy / Lisa panel. I like all of them other than Whoopi--and even she doesn't bother me too much these days. Quite the turn-around from the last few years when the show had reached its nadir. 4 Link to comment
Ellis Bell March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, TheGreenKnight said: I was actually thinking this morning that this is the best panel since the Meredith / Star / Joy / Lisa panel. I like all of them other than Whoopi--and even she doesn't bother me too much these days. Quite the turn-around from the last few years when the show had reached its nadir. I miss Meredith and Whoopi at this point just comes across as a drug-addled brain with aphasia. Joy, oh please. When she defended Cuomo's sexual abuse allegations because he's better than the other side, that was it for me. She's always reminded me of one of the unpopular kids who wanted to get in with the cool kids. So now she's part of the progressive NYC group and she won't abandon that post for anything even her principles. Sara is sane. She reminds me of the mediator-like calm of Abby who I liked on the panel even though many accused her of "both sides" answers. Intelligent people aren't hard set in their opinions and can see both sides of an argument. Ana has refined her two minute build-up waste of time to a punchline but she's kind of just there. She's supposed to be the somewhat conservative view yet she rarely disagrees. Sunny, well, you know, lol. Link to comment
bluegirl147 March 24, 2022 Share March 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said: I was actually thinking this morning that this is the best panel since the Meredith / Star / Joy / Lisa panel. I like all of them other than Whoopi--and even she doesn't bother me too much these days. Quite the turn-around from the last few years when the show had reached its nadir. I know. Can you believe it? I think Whoop is also happy with this panel and that is making her less irritable which is making her less annoying to us. 5 Link to comment
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