zenme October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Amber is probably bawling her eyes out in near hysterics right now. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430626
Auntie Anxiety October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 This is better than any episode of RH ever! How the mighty (stupid and obnoxious) have fallen. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430637
TheFinalRose October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Amber is probably bawling her eyes out in near hysterics right now. I wish I could see a live feed of that. She is the worst actress. Her crying scenes are the fakest I've ever seen, and I've watched A LOT of reality shows. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430645
Higgins October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I wish I could see a live feed of that. She is the worst actress. Her crying scenes are the fakest I've ever seen, and I've watched A LOT of reality shows. Tamra is worse. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430660
LotusFlower October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) Unofficial report -- 25 months! Not confirmed. But a bunch of people are writing it over at Reality Tea. Not sure where they're getting it. Edited October 2, 2014 by LotusFlower 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430661
Persnickety1 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I wish I could see a live feed of that. She is the worst actress. Her crying scenes are the fakest I've ever seen, and I've watched A LOT of reality shows. DAMMIT!!! Andy should have organized a Very Special Edition of The People's Couch with all of their castmates sitting around watching all of this unfold on closed circuit TV so we could see their reactions. Except I don't think they have closed circuit TV through a Federal court, dammit. It would have been most excellent, though! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430663
zenme October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Just when I start to feel badly for the Giudices I'm reminded how nasty Teresa has been over the last few years, how she's insisted she had "no skeletons in her closet, thank you!" and of course I think about how my husband and I work hard for our home and to help our kids pay for their education, not to mention paying taxes every year! These people did it to themselves--and to their girls. All because of greed...sad. Very sad. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430666
Jennifersdc October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 This is driving me bonkers. I really had work to do today. I likely won't get home until 8 though. My hubby will have my drink waiting for me though and then let the drunken antics begin! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430669
Lablover27 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Unofficial report -- 25 months! Okay. Any months is something to me. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430671
MulletorHater October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I saw on Facebook that Mr. Juicy got a 41-month sentence. There aren't enough words in English, Italian or any other language to express how utterly disappointing this is. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430672
Persnickety1 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Unofficial report -- 25 months! Wasn't that the maximum sentence for Teresa? Damn, this judge...She does not play. I like that. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430675
Lastwaltz October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 The more severe the punishment, the more likely it may actually register with these two buffoons. Not normally a Guidice apologist, but I'm pretty sure it's registering just fine. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430681
Lablover27 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Not normally a Guidice apologist, but I'm pretty sure it's registering just fine. Today it is. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430687
zoeysmom October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 HLN-has some guy on that knows nothing about the case irritating. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430692
diorella78 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 It's probably better for the girls if Teresa 'goes away' first. Milania and Gia are so different (read: better, more at ease, etc) with Joe. Now....I hope Joe has his mom and sister around as well, since I can't see Juicy left on his own with 4 kids, lol. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430693
jaync October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) Actually I just read the alcohol treatment which I think takes another 4 months off. That sounds about right if he was given 53 months - 50 days off each year of the sentence (sans the first year) comes out to about four months. (The rehab being considered as "taking classes".) Both Joe and Teresa dissolved into tears as the judge tore into them. Awesome. Hope there are some good court sketches of it. Edited October 2, 2014 by jaync 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430695
fliptopbox October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 So...any real news yet? I have stuff I want to do but now this is bugging me. I thought court resumed at 2....how long can it take to deliver sentencing? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430703
Marigold October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) Love it! Teresa thinks living in someone else's house is gross? Oh, you can't make this stuff up! She is gonna be living with random people! sharing toilets. No fancy Italian foods. No make up. What happens to her fake hair which she swears is real. No trainer. No tanning. No cosmetic surgery. Edited October 2, 2014 by Marigold 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430704
TheFinalRose October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Nancy Grace is cracking me up. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430706
sparklemotion October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 It's probably better for the girls if Teresa 'goes away' first. Milania and Gia are so different (read: better, more at ease, etc) with Joe. Now....I hope Joe has his mom and sister around as well, since I can't see Juicy left on his own with 4 kids, lol. I so have the mind of a terrible reality show producer because my first thought was "This season on Juicy in the House" ..... 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430708
Persnickety1 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 So...any real news yet? I have stuff I want to do but now this is bugging me. I thought court resumed at 2....how long can it take to deliver sentencing? Maybe they can't get Teresa out of the bathroom....doesn't she always have chronic diarrhea on that show, at least a couple of seasons ago? Yeah, that must be in overdrive today. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430709
amarante October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 When Jackson and his wife were convicted of white collar crimes, the wife had the shorter sentence and did it first and so I imagine Tre will serve her sentence and then Juicy. Makes sense because they are not going to wait 3 or so years for someone to start serving whereas Tre would probably be eligible for house arrest after a year or so. Not much to add except for the sheer chutzpah of their attempting to defraud the sentencing judge. Their level of moral blindness and greed really has no boundaries. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430712
beaker73 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Nancy Grace is cracking me up. You know I totally depise Nancy Grace, but I bet she's pretty fabulous right about now. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430715
zoeysmom October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Without knowing if Teresa is getting time, if I were her and knowing Joe's previous behavior-I would say if I am going in-you are going in-the kids will be fine with your family. To leave Joe in charge of her brand. . . happy days for Joe. All the women gathering around him and saying what a great guy he is to take on the girls while Teresa is away. It would be heaven for Joe and the big bonus is no Teresa!!! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430722
Persnickety1 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 You know I totally depise Nancy Grace, but I bet she's pretty fabulous right about now. Mr. Persnickety is watching her now (we also loathe her) and laughing his ass off. I think today he's enjoying watching Nancy's nostrils flare to epic proportions. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430730
zenme October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I'm really wondering if the prosecution submitted evidence regularly--as in recent shows. A few shows ago Teresa gave Gia that supposed "heirloom" that definitely did not appear to be decades old. The gall and nerve of these people! If I were the judge I'd be furious and throw the max at 'em! I wonder if Joe has got money stashed in Italy. Remember when they took that trip and he had that suitcase that he refused to allow anyone to touch? I wouldn't be surprised. These people have balls! Big balls! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430733
fliptopbox October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Not much to add except for the sheer chutzpah of their attempting to defraud the sentencing judge. Their level of moral blindness and greed really has no boundaries. BWAHAHAHAHA. Sorry. I know what you meant by "defraud" but I pictured for a moment the word having the Duggar meaning.....and gave myself a hilarious yet scary visual. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430734
diorella78 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I'm really wondering if the prosecution submitted evidence regularly--as in recent shows. A few shows ago Teresa gave Gia that supposed "heirloom" that definitely did not appear to be decades old. The gall and nerve of these people! If I were the judge I'd be furious and throw the max at 'em! I wonder if Joe has got money stashed in Italy. Remember when they took that trip and he had that suitcase that he refused to allow anyone to touch? I wouldn't be surprised. These people have balls! Big balls! I was thinking of that ring as well. When that episode aired I found it suspect, lol. "It's no longer MINEEEEEE Judge". 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430737
beaker73 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Mr. Persnickety is watching her now (we also loathe her) and laughing his ass off. I think today he's enjoying watching Nancy's nostrils flare to epic proportions. You could drive a car through those things. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430744
Higgins October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 They are clearly complete morons and they either hired terrible attorneys or, didn't listen to them. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430747
diorella78 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 They are clearly complete morons and they either hired terrible attorneys or, didn't listen to them. I think a little of both, but mainly the latter. The whole time, before getting found out etc, I imagine their 'tude was "Taxes are unfair, gotta do what we gotta do, eh? We ain't no chumps, gotta stay ahaead of the government..." blah 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430751
LotusFlower October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) Does this long, long wait mean good things, or bad things, for Teresa?! The hammer came down on Joe swiftly. Maybe Teresa fainted. I'm serious. Edited October 2, 2014 by LotusFlower 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430754
Kerrey92 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I wonder if Joe has got money stashed in Italy. Remember when they took that trip and he had that suitcase that he refused to allow anyone to touch? I wouldn't be surprised. Wouldn't it be funny if Joe had millions stashed away in Italy but then he couldn't get over there to get it?? I think it's very interesting the judge specifically said Teresa was going first. This really will seriously limit their earning potential. She was the main bread winner at this point and I don't think there's much Joe can do to earn. No bank is going to lend him anything to do the house flipping/construction work he was doing. Maybe he'll deliver me a pizza! Why the specific mention of the payment to Wells Fargo? GIven that the owe $13.4 million to a ton of different vendors, I wonder why this one was specifically mentioned? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430757
zenme October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 I predict that before Juicy goes "asunder" there will be a little Juicy Jr. He's going to mourn for a little bit, then he's going to full on Roman orgy and Hedonism. Look out! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430759
Marigold October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Seriously, they should've had better lawyers. Or maybe they didn't listen. I posted before, I'm in a bankruptcy for mortgage payements I'm repaying. The lawyers said two bazillion times about not hiding anything and then lectured me about the penalities of hiding, lying etc. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430773
SFoster21 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Juicy is still facing state time. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430774
beaker73 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Does this long, long wait mean good things, or bad things, for Teresa?! The hammer came down on Joe swiftly. Maybe Teresa fainted. I'm serious. Or diarrheaed her pants. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430775
WhoaWhoKnew October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Anyone know Italy's extradition laws? I can see these two running. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430778
SFoster21 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Odds are they were prepared for the sentences. A decent lawyer would prepare them. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430779
WireWrap October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Wouldn't it be funny if Joe had millions stashed away in Italy but then he couldn't get over there to get it?? I think it's very interesting the judge specifically said Teresa was going first. This really will seriously limit their earning potential. She was the main bread winner at this point and I don't think there's much Joe can do to earn. No bank is going to lend him anything to do the house flipping/construction work he was doing. Maybe he'll deliver me a pizza! Why the specific mention of the payment to Wells Fargo? GIven that the owe $13.4 million to a ton of different vendors, I wonder why this one was specifically mentioned? The Federal case only involves their mortgages, around $5 million and change, not everything they tried to declare in their failed BK. I think the Wells Fargo was the last mortgage they took out. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430789
diorella78 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Anyone know Italy's extradition laws? I can see these two running. I think their passports have already been confiscated. However, we have a mutual agreement in theory with Italy, but like in the Amanda Knox situation, there are games each country could play to deny extradition. I doubt either is so 'important', however, that Italy would fight it. I only assume Teresa has dual citizenship.... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430795
pawsodoom October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 VickiDish @VickiHy 58s59 seconds ago Joe's lawyer on Joe's attempts to exonerate Teresa: 'that is the mark of a real man.' #RHONJ Umm...WHAAT? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430797
Anastasia October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Absolutely agree WhoaWHoKnew. I think they will have their fake ID's in order and peace out well before any report-to-prison date. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430798
WireWrap October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Seriously, they should've had better lawyers. Or maybe they didn't listen. I posted before, I'm in a bankruptcy for mortgage payements I'm repaying. The lawyers said two bazillion times about not hiding anything and then lectured me about the penalities of hiding, lying etc. A Lawyer is dependent on their client giving them the complete, honest information. I think Teresa/Joes arrogance even extended to their current legal teams. Those 2 are more arrogant than 99% of the population IMO. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430803
Higgins October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Odds are they were prepared for the sentences. A decent lawyer would prepare them. You would think a decent lawyer would have sat them down and made them realize that they must declare EVERYTHING on their financial disclosures. They think they are smarter than everyone else. It boggles my mind that they are so stupid. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430804
Marigold October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) I forgot about the state charges with the license fiasco and the DUI! OMG, these two are a disgrace. You know what made my stomach turn? Teresa and all her praying on the floor of her bedroom in that recent episode. You know, if you are so religious, then you shouldn't have 41 counts of fraud. AND, if you are so religious, when you get caught, you know it's your own fault. Edit: I cannot imagine these two thought they could hide stuff. I disclosed we own a canoe. A cheap canoe we bought on ebay. I wouldn't want anyone to misconstrue that we own a boat! How stupid or arrogant or what? Delusional? My lawyer was very clear and direct. I signed a paper stating I undestood the consequences of hiding assets. I truly don't understand the balls because I have done this. You go before this judge or official or trustee and that person, Over and over you swear you are not lying. I attested so many times that what I put on paper is accurate. I can't even imagine the level of deception that lives in their minds to think they could do that and not get caught. And then pray about it. Edited October 2, 2014 by Marigold 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430808
diorella78 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 Absolutely agree WhoaWHoKnew. I think they will have their fake ID's in order and peace out well before any report-to-prison date. I don't think so....mainly because I do think they love their girls. I don't think both would just cut and run. JMO 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430810
Kerrey92 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 VickiDish @VickiHy 58s59 seconds agoJoe's lawyer on Joe's attempts to exonerate Teresa: 'that is the mark of a real man.' #RHONJ Umm...WHAAT? Yup. real men steal from working folks and end up in jail leaving his family all to feed a relentless greed. SCOFF! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430811
Persnickety1 October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) VickiDish @VickiHy 58s59 seconds ago Joe's lawyer on Joe's attempts to exonerate Teresa: 'that is the mark of a real man.' #RHONJ Umm...WHAAT? What???!!!????!!!! Does he not realize how very GUILTY that makes Teresa look? Ahahahahahaha, oh dear Christ on a crutch, these attorneys apparently are just as bright as their clients in this case. :face palm: Edited October 2, 2014 by Persnickety1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430817
superyooper October 2, 2014 Share October 2, 2014 (edited) Yup. real men steal from working folks and end up in jail leaving his family all to feed a relentless greed. SCOFF! Relentless greed for consumerist crap. Edited October 2, 2014 by superyooper 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/11882-trials-and-tribulations-of-juicy-and-tre/page/23/#findComment-430819
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