S03.E10 Radical

[Whimsy]

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Max reckons with New Amsterdam's past. Bloom and Reynolds treat a patient in an unconventional relationship. Sharpe decides to take a stricter approach to parenting her teenage niece. Iggy tries to connect with a patient desperate for gastric bypass.

Original air date 5/4/21

[ams1001]

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"Sharpe decides to take a stricter approach to parenting her teenage niece."

Well, since she doesn't seem to have actually tried "parenting" thus far...this should be fun.

I'm sorry, this "I'd rather die than be treated here unless you make up for 400 years of history because the hospital happens to be named after the people who took our land" is just too much. And Max is gonna "rectify" it. By renaming the hospital after the native people in question. Simple as that. Sure. (And in enough time for the woman to not die from her blood clot. Because the medical director can just decide to rename a public hospital. Uh huh.)

Aaaand...I was tired of the fawning over the new doctor before the elevator door even (finally) closed. Iggy is so unprofessional.

This show is ridiculous.

(Yet, I'm still watching.)

 

[Madding crowd]

I really can’t take anymore of Max playing hero. How does the head of a hospital have time to spend days on one patient. The professor was ridiculous; if you want to die then just leave. 
The ending with the reveal that Iggy’s stalker was his partner’s patient would be a fun twist but why would a therapist bring home a hat left by a patient? Wouldn’t you leave it in your office so you can remember to return it?

The polygamous people were annoying too. I still adore Ryan Eggold so I guess I’m stuck watching. Please no more heroics for a week or two.

[ChiMama]

I do really love this cast, but OMG — New Amsterdam (and the character of Max) have really jumped the shark for me. I’ll see it through the end of this season, but then I’m (sadly) done with the illogical, inaccurate, inane & insipid dreck the writers choose to present us with every week. RIP New Amsterdam from my DVR series record list. 😢

Edited May 5, 2021 by ChiMama

[Cloud9Shopper]

I’m not a fan of Max’s half-brained ideas to make it seem like he understands racism. First it was “You’re fixing racism with paint?” and now it’s let’s up and change the name of the hospital in one day. He reminds me of a Reddit slacktivist at this point.

Who just hires a huge position like head of a department with barely an interview? I’m willing to suspend some sense of reality when watching fictional TV but Agnes’ storyline was way too much. 
 

I am, however, here for more Lauren and Leyla. Lauren looked incredible in their scenes. 

[Brian Cronin]

They were doing some heavy HOYAY with Bloom and Leyla last episode, so I guess this makes sense. They definitely had excellent sexual chemistry. 

I really don't get Reynolds' plot with the married doctor. Who makes a mixtape and splits ear buds like that with a platonic friend? That's weird.

I think it's kind of awesome, in a hilarious sort of way, that Agnes' incompetence is what bailed them out today. Dr. Lucio had a bizarre reaction too, when Agnes explained firing her. "Oh." 

[SunnyBeBe]

I didn’t get that Lauren was in the “I’m open to you kissing me” mood.  When her roommate was giving her good news she seemed very ecstatic and affectionate, but she was oblivious that Lauren was giving “keep your distance” vibes.  Of course, she sure did change her mind after thinking about it all day.  
 

I really hate that this show is just being run into the ground with the pathetic writing....omg, can’t they find new writers?  Let the IT people give a try or the maintenance crew.....anyone could do better.  It’s just sad, pathetic and ridiculous.  They are humiliating this great cast with chitty writing.  

Edited May 5, 2021 by SunnyBeBe

[Driad]

After "Prodigal Son" I switch over to this, hoping a medical drama will show me that not everyone in New York City is insane.  Not sure it's working.

[ams1001]

9 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

I think it's kind of awesome, in a hilarious sort of way, that Agnes' incompetence is what bailed them out today. Dr. Lucio had a bizarre reaction too, when Agnes explained firing her. "Oh." 

I love that she didn't question Agnes's authority to hire her on the spot but she questioned her authority to fire her.

And she apparently needed no time for so much as any kind of orientation before she started making huge unilateral budget decisions that affected other departments. And how was Sharpe not saying, "uh, no, you don't get to just do that."

And does Max even know that any of this even happened?

[ams1001]

10 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

but why would a therapist bring home a hat left by a patient? Wouldn’t you leave it in your office so you can remember to return it?

My thoughts exactly. 

I thought Iggy was referring him to someone else. How did he end up with Martin?

[FnkyChkn34]

If the Board still had to approve the new head of neurology, then couldn't the doctors go to them and just say "hey, we made a mistake, please don't approve this woman!  Her initial probation period is not working out."  I think a Board might listen to them if they provide the evidence as well.  This story was silly.

I won't even get in to Max's story... 

[FnkyChkn34]

3 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

My thoughts exactly. 

I thought Iggy was referring him to someone else. How did he end up with Martin?

I think Iggy thought he was referring him to someone else too - it seemed like a big surprise to Iggy. 

I didn't really get the sense that the guy was so much as Iggy's stalker, as he was just looking for a friend.  I originally thought Iggy would refer him to someone else so that then they could be friends without the doctor-patient relationship, but I guess I missed something.

[ShowsILoveToHate]

I love the cast; starting to hate the direction this show has been going this season. Tonight’s episode just cemented that fact.  
 

People used to say how stupid it was that some shows used to “fix” family/relationship problems in less than 30 minutes. Now we have New Amsterdam “fixing” all of society’s ills in less than an hour.  And sometimes more than one issue in an episode! It’s irritating, and to a degree, demeans the real issues, such as the Native American issues, the BLM issues, the AIDS issues, etc!
 

Now for the positive! I thought that the scene at the end with Sharpe’s niece was very well-acted, and seemed very realistic. The poor girl needed a way to express her bottled up grief.  Yes it was traumatic, as Sharpe told Max, but it seemed therapeutic as well. 
 

I’m not even going to comment on the story line of the 5-person relationship.

 

[ams1001]

10 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I’m not a fan of Max’s half-brained ideas to make it seem like he understands racism. First it was “You’re fixing racism with paint?” and now it’s let’s up and change the name of the hospital in one day. He reminds me of a Reddit slacktivist at this point.

Another thing with this storyline that bothered me. The woman's students (who were not family and had no right or authority to be discussing her care with her doctors) talked about how they weren't encouraged to do what they wanted because white men knew better ("I wanted to be a doctor and my guidance counselor told me I should go into landscaping") told Max that if he didn't override his patient's clearly stated (if stupid) wishes he was failing them. So it's okay for the white man to decide for the native woman if it benefits her college students somehow?

[ams1001]

1 minute ago, ShowsILoveToHate said:

Now for the positive! I thought that the scene at the end with Sharpe’s niece was very well-acted, and seemed very realistic. The poor girl needed a way to express her bottled up grief.  Yes it was traumatic, as Sharpe told Max, but it seemed therapeutic as well. 

Yes! I was thinking "finally she's acting like an actual grieving teenager."

1 minute ago, ShowsILoveToHate said:

I’m not even going to comment on the story line of the 5-person relationship.

My biggest problem with that was all the PDA in the hospital room. Two people, ten, I don't care. Even sitting with the patient looked more romantic than just trying to comfort the guy.

And when the wife said she had parrots, I said "Psittacosis! Call Dr. House's team!"

[circumvent]

13 hours ago, ams1001 said:

I'm sorry, this "I'd rather die than be treated here unless you make up for 400 years of history because the hospital happens to be named after the people who took our land" is just too much. And Max is gonna "rectify" it. By renaming the hospital after the native people in question. Simple as that. Sure. (And in enough time for the woman to not die from her blood clot. Because the medical director can just decide to rename a public hospital. Uh huh.)

This is really annoying. Virtue signaling, typical "let's talk about how to name things instead of actually improve how oppressed people are treated". It is like big corporations being all BLM while at the same time refusing to increase pay of black people to same level as white people, or even hiring black people. It is distraction, nothing of importance really happens. Now it looks like the show's writers are using this as if oppressed people would prefer to virtue signal even if it means death.

[circumvent]

1 hour ago, ShowsILoveToHate said:

And sometimes more than one issue in an episode! It’s irritating, and to a degree, demeans the real issues, such as the Native American issues, the BLM issues, the AIDS issues, etc!

Exactly. It isa ll virtue signaling while doing absolute nothing to work on the real issues. It is actually very depressing if you think about it: half of this country is racist, the other half purports to not be racist but are, at minimum, classist or lazy because they don't want to even think about real issues. They are comfortable being "not racist, I support BLM" while making sure their actions are window dressing and don't change their comfortable position in this messy society.

[ams1001]

3 minutes ago, circumvent said:

This is really annoying. Virtue signaling, typical "let's talk about how to name things instead of actually improve how oppressed people are treated". It is like big corporations being all BLM while at the same time refusing to increase pay of black people to same level as white people, or even hiring black people. It is distraction, nothing of importance really happens. Now it looks like the show's writers are using this as if oppressed people would prefer to virtue signal even if it means death.

And did he even ask her what, specifically, she wanted him to do? He said at one point, "I think she'd rather see a doctor with NA ancestry"...but he didn't actually ask her. It's still "The White Man In the Position of Authority" deciding for her.

And how many hospitals are there in NYC? If her issue was with the name, maybe it'd have been better for everyone to ask if she'd prefer to go to a different hospital and transfer her there? Perhaps this is a worthy thing to fight for, but choosing to let a random health crisis kill you isn't the way to do it.

[preeya]

THIS, particularly Max's character:

Edited May 5, 2021 by preeya

[catrice2]

I have always found the character of Max annoying. I can't figure out if it is the way the actor portrays him, the writing or a combination of both. I actually usually fast forward through anything with him and I guess I missed a conversation between him and Sharpe that she refers to at the end. I am sick of his do good ness that is soooo unrealistic, and the "will they or won't they?" vibe. I watch off and on, so I don't know what happened to her boyfriend before Daniel Dae Kim, so I guess they just get rid of them with no explanation? 

Everything is so obvious on this show, and I am already calling that his in laws are going to sue for custody of the daughter.....

I don't know where they are going with Floyd. Originally I thought maybe she made up the husband just to deter suitors, but she actually likes him. I also don't know the reason why he and his fiance broke up and they could not hire care for his mother, unless they confessed to more than that?  I know the actress got another job, probably with more screen time, but that, as well as most of this season was a mess. 

[circumvent]

1 hour ago, ams1001 said:

And how many hospitals are there in NYC? If her issue was with the name, maybe it'd have been better for everyone to ask if she'd prefer to go to a different hospital and transfer her there? Perhaps this is a worthy thing to fight for, but choosing to let a random health crisis kill you isn't the way to do it.

I haven't watched the episode yet but this has been a pattern: pick a social issue, do anything to elevate it, come up with bullshit outcomes as if that would be the fix needed, move on to the next. 

All this, as you said, with the White Savior being the well, savior.

Social issues in mass entertainment are important but without nuance - and actual FACTS - they just irritate/annoy people who really care about and work hard to try to ameliorate such issues.

It also paints the side that is trying to solve real problems as "libs" who "hate the American way". 

[cardigirl]

I'm sorry, but I had no sympathy for that little teenager wanting the stomach stapling surgery. I get that she was desperate, but at her age, she just wanted what she saw as a more rapid fix, because teenagers cannot conceive of time and Iggy was right to be hesitant to recommend it or get behind it.  He definitely didn't handle the session well, but something about that girl did not make me sympathize with her at all. Good luck to her. I wish they would follow up with that storyline, because it really bugged me. 

[Cloud9Shopper]

1 hour ago, catrice2 said:

I have always found the character of Max annoying. I can't figure out if it is the way the actor portrays him, the writing or a combination of both. I actually usually fast forward through anything with him and I guess I missed a conversation between him and Sharpe that she refers to at the end. I am sick of his do good ness that is soooo unrealistic, and the "will they or won't they?" vibe. I watch off and on, so I don't know what happened to her boyfriend before Daniel Dae Kim, so I guess they just get rid of them with no explanation? 

Everything is so obvious on this show, and I am already calling that his in laws are going to sue for custody of the daughter.....

I don't know where they are going with Floyd. Originally I thought maybe she made up the husband just to deter suitors, but she actually likes him. I also don't know the reason why he and his fiance broke up and they could not hire care for his mother, unless they confessed to more than that?  I know the actress got another job, probably with more screen time, but that, as well as most of this season was a mess. 

I felt so let down when Max and Sharpe agreed they were so glad they were....friends. Way to be, show. 

[Rammchick]

Would someone remind me -- who's Cassie?

[preeya]

4 minutes ago, Rammchick said:

Would someone remind me -- who's Cassie?

I don't think there is a Cassie. There is Casey who works for Bloom in the ER and Dr Cassian Shin played by Daniel Dae Kim.

[LittleIggy]

16 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

I really can’t take anymore of Max playing hero. How does the head of a hospital have time to spend days on one patient. The professor was ridiculous; if you want to die then just leave. 
 

I kept saying that! My father died at age 57 of a pulmonary embolism. He didn’t have the chance to have life-saving surgery like the wannabe martyr professor. That storyline, besides being another crusade of the week for Max, made me mad and sad. 😞 

Tyler Labine isn’t fat!

How did Mina know a patient at NA for years? Did she mean by reading the file it was “as if”?
Who is Cassian?

[SunnyBeBe]

The show just doesn’t know how to play things.  There’s so much potential, but it’s squandered on poor writing.  

[preeya]

28 minutes ago, LittleIggy said:

Who is Cassian?

Daniel Dae Kim's Dr. Cassian Shin. Sharp's ex.

[Rammchick]

2 minutes ago, preeya said:

Daniel Dae Kim's Dr. Cassian Shin. Sharp's ex.

Thanks -- it just sounded like Cassie to me, that's why it didn't make sense!

 

[LittleIggy]

16 minutes ago, preeya said:

Daniel Dae Kim's Dr. Cassian Shin. Sharp's ex.

Thanks. I had never heard him referred to as anything but “Shin.” Cassian is an odd name for a Korean (I know he was adopted but still...).

[jabRI]

8 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

If the Board still had to approve the new head of neurology, then couldn't the doctors go to them and just say "hey, we made a mistake, please don't approve this woman!  Her initial probation period is not working out."  I think a Board might listen to them if they provide the evidence as well.  This story was silly.

But not even that, if the Board hasn't approved her, what is she doing?  Working without any kind of contract, employment agreement?  Wouldn't she need to negotiate her salary and benefits?    That struck me as bizarre that she just 'shows up' after one conversation with mini-Kapoor (never remember her name).

[KaveDweller]

10 hours ago, ams1001 said:

I love that she didn't question Agnes's authority to hire her on the spot but she questioned her authority to fire her.

And she apparently needed no time for so much as any kind of orientation before she started making huge unilateral budget decisions that affected other departments. And how was Sharpe not saying, "uh, no, you don't get to just do that."

And does Max even know that any of this even happened?

I didn't understand the budget stuff. If she de-couples the departments, wouldn't both departments end up with more expenses? If not, wouldn't Max or someone need to approve it? 

1 hour ago, jabRI said:

But not even that, if the Board hasn't approved her, what is she doing?  Working without any kind of contract, employment agreement?  Wouldn't she need to negotiate her salary and benefits?    That struck me as bizarre that she just 'shows up' after one conversation with mini-Kapoor (never remember her name).

The whole thing was bizarre. Plus, Agnes told Sharpe she wasn't on the search committee. But wasn't she made head of it by Iggy last week? I don't get the point of the whole thing....why not just bring in the actual person who will replace Kapoor? Also, it seems like there are a lot of other doctors in neurology. Do none of them have opinions?

I think they are turning this show into a comedy. Now Max is trying to make up past crimes to native Americans? And was he surprised to learn that white Europeans stole land from native Americans? That NYC used to be native land? Because he is my age and he would have learned that in school. 

I noticed the new sign for the lobby is right next to the black lives matter painting on the floor. I hope by the end of the season that room is filled with various symbols of all the causes Max picks up each episode. 

[Aliconehead]

4 hours ago, LittleIggy said:

Tyler Labine isn’t fat!

But he has been in the past. This storyline is mirroring his real life struggles https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/health/new-amsterdam-tyler-labine-eating-disorder/%3famp=true

[Driad]

Did anyone catch the details of Max's idea to give financial aid to Native Americans who want to become doctors?  Are there programs like that in the real world?

[ams1001]

25 minutes ago, Driad said:

Did anyone catch the details of Max's idea to give financial aid to Native Americans who want to become doctors?  Are there programs like that in the real world?

I was wondering how exactly this program is going to be funded.

 

[txhorns79]

Seriously, how is Max not fired?  If I were on the board, I'd be so tired of his time wasting stunts. 

I was a little confused about the gastric bypass teenager.  I thought there were fairly specific requirements for that surgery, specifically when it is being done on someone so young.  The girl looked overweight to me, but nothing so substantial that would make her an obvious candidate for that surgery.  

1 hour ago, KaveDweller said:

 

I noticed the new sign for the lobby is right next to the black lives matter painting on the floor.

I appreciated they had a new sign made up and ready to go within like an hour of the dedication no one previously knew about.   

[LittleIggy]

3 hours ago, Aliconehead said:

But he has been in the past. This storyline is mirroring his real life struggles https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/health/new-amsterdam-tyler-labine-eating-disorder/%3famp=true

I know he was much heavier in the past. He was on Reaper, but Iggy refers to himself as fat now. He isn’t.

2 hours ago, ams1001 said:

I was wondering how exactly this program is going to be funded.

 

Does the tribe have a casino? 😏

[Aliconehead]

4 minutes ago, LittleIggy said:

I know he was much heavier in the past. He was on Reaper, but Iggy refers to himself as fat now. He isn’t.

Does the tribe have a casino? 😏

While that’s true, it is classic body dysmorphia. It’s the same thing as people with anorexia/bulimia/EDS thinking they are fat.  Now I agree having the young woman refer to him as fat was wrong, it can send the wrong message.  The show should have written it as body dysmorphia with self esteem issues. 

[Kleav]

9 hours ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

I felt so let down when Max and Sharpe agreed they were so glad they were....friends. Way to be, show. 

I don't think Max sees things that way, but when she said it, he was kind of trapped.

[FnkyChkn34]

4 hours ago, KaveDweller said:

I didn't understand the budget stuff. If she de-couples the departments, wouldn't both departments end up with more expenses? If not, wouldn't Max or someone need to approve it? 

The whole thing was bizarre. Plus, Agnes told Sharpe she wasn't on the search committee. But wasn't she made head of it by Iggy last week? I don't get the point of the whole thing....why not just bring in the actual person who will replace Kapoor? Also, it seems like there are a lot of other doctors in neurology. Do none of them have opinions?

I don't think any of the budget stuff was a done deal, it was just her proposal.  I'm sure that if it went any further, Sharpe would have argued her side to the right people and it would have never been approved.

I feel like they are buying time to maybe let Kapoor return?  I don't remember the exact situation with the actor, but I think his departure was something personal or family related.  Maybe that will resolve and he can come back?  Just a thought, I have no idea.

[Aliconehead]

5 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I don't think any of the budget stuff was a done deal, it was just her proposal.  I'm sure that if it went any further, Sharpe would have argued her side to the right people and it would have never been approved.

I feel like they are buying time to maybe let Kapoor return?  I don't remember the exact situation with the actor, but I think his departure was something personal or family related.  Maybe that will resolve and he can come back?  Just a thought, I have no idea.

His wife has blood cancer. 

[FnkyChkn34]

3 minutes ago, Aliconehead said:

His wife has blood cancer. 

Oh, that's sad to hear.

[yourmomiseasy]

This fucking show 🙄  It didn't even get to the opening credits before I was wondering if I was going to make it through the episode. 

Seeing the new sign right above the BLM floor painting made me LOL.  I wonder how long it will be until that lobby is renamed the Max Goodwin White Savior Hall of Virtue Signaling.

At this point I am certain the writers are trolling progressives.

[bros402]

IT IS TIME FOR THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF WHO IS THE WORST DOCTOR (me on chemo edition)

 

oh well bloom and uber doctor did that

 

i bet sharpe's niece working at the hospital will totally end well without any kind of conflict

 

uh oh history professor is talking to max... is Max going to be inspired to change the name of the hospital

 

uh oh ER couple went mushroom hunting, lymphoma survivor has aspergillius or another lung fungus I bet

 

lenapehoking is a mouthful, you need a different name, max

 

max that name change doesn't cost "almost nothing" - I bet it would cost millions

 

ummmm how would Iggy's signature override the wishes of a parent for a minor trying to get an elective surgery

 

wow Reynolds way to violate HIPAA with polyamorous guy

 

max why not just send the professor elsewhere

 

umm future head of neuro why do the two departments share budget and staff and why do the two share ALMOST ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT

 

huh Iggy's being a halfway decent therapist in this episode, so how is he gonna screw up

 

oh no max oh no you aren't going around asking everyone if they are native american are you

 

how does one department head have power over the budget of every other departmen????

 

um max why you are sharing her info with her students

 

and she is unconscious and presumably did not sign a DNR, you have to try to save her life - she only declined the blood thinner

 

there you go, max, starting a way to get native americans in the medical field, that's how you do it

 

why is there a christmas card in that medical record

 

sharpe traumatizing her niece, nice

 

ugh please no max-shapre relationship

 

oh are we going to get bloom & dr. uber relationship since max and sharpe didn't get together?

 

whoa wtf at that closeup on bloom, did she have a huge bulging vein in her right eyelid (our left)?

 

and there we go, new relationship - do you think Dr. Uber is going to try to intern in ER and will have to work under Bloom, then Max will handwave all regulations away so they can still date?

 

so, who is the worst doctor this time?

I mean the easy answer is Dr. Who Was Going To Run Neurology for being a villain. However, I think Sharpe wins for being a worse parent than Max!

[circumvent]

5 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

Seeing the new sign right above the BLM floor painting made me LOL.  I wonder how long it will be until that lobby is renamed the Max Goodwin White Savior Hall of Virtue Signaling.

At this point I am certain the writers are trolling progressives.

Believe me, libs are not trolling progressives because libs do believe those performative gestures do count as solutions for all oppressive systems.

Just to add to the voices here, the neuro doctor story was just silly and looks like they had to come up with some ting in a hurry and decided to go with the first bad idea. All the nonsensical points have already been laid and I agree with them all.

I don't know much about bypass gastric surgery, I did know a teenager who had it and died. He was very obese and it was over 20 years ago, but still, it freaks me out. The points the girl made though, about her decision and body autonomy were valid. Not very well dealt with because she is young and would need more supports and conversations but valid points. 

Iggy needs some vacation and some refresher training. He talks about his own issues with a patient and when patient picks up on what he said to make an argument, he says the conversation is not about him? Sure, Iggy. In a trial show that would be the moment the judge would have ruled to his objection: you opened the door counselor! 

I commented on the professor refusing care based on 400 years of genocide and oppression before I watched the episode and I haven't changed my opinion after watching but now I am even more irritated because those indigenous actors had to be part of the very badly written story. Like someone already mentioned, she could have gone to a different hospital and not risking her life. I can see the point of protesting, but there are ways of doing so. At this very moment, there is at least one person protesting the situation in Yemen by being on a hunger strike. There are people on hunger strike protesting incarceration and demanding the release of prisoners, there are so many cases of protests that get little attention but still more than someone dying because a blood clot that went untreated. The hospital would have granted her wishes and let her go instead of having a death in the charts. That's how reality is, how funding works, how their efficacy is graded. It sucks, but this is how things work in our "health" system. Had she died while Max, The Great White Savior ran around trying to fix the last 400 years, he would have been fired.

[Guest]

This show is weird in that I like most of the characters - except Iggy and Bloom.  But I can't take the storylines anymore.  One week Max is determined to solve racism, the next week internet access, etc. It's ruined the show. Where are the interesting medical storylines?

[circumvent]

30 minutes ago, deaja said:

Where are the interesting medical storylines?

 

I would ask: where is the creativity to use the same storylines that all medical shows tell, but in an interesting way? 

[preeya]

10 hours ago, Aliconehead said:

Does the tribe have a casino? 😏

There are four New York tribes that own federally-approved casinos and Indian gaming facilities.

Three New York tribes have negotiated Class III gaming compacts with the state to allow them to operate Vegas-style games. These tribes are the Seneca Nation of Indians, the Oneida Indian Nation of New York and the St. Regis Mohawk Tribe.

None for the Lenape tribe.

Edited May 6, 2021 by preeya

[Emily Thrace]

7 hours ago, circumvent said:

Believe me, libs are not trolling progressives because libs do believe those performative gestures do count as solutions for all oppressive systems.

Just to add to the voices here, the neuro doctor story was just silly and looks like they had to come up with some ting in a hurry and decided to go with the first bad idea. All the nonsensical points have already been laid and I agree with them all.

I don't know much about bypass gastric surgery, I did know a teenager who had it and died. He was very obese and it was over 20 years ago, but still, it freaks me out. The points the girl made though, about her decision and body autonomy were valid. Not very well dealt with because she is young and would need more supports and conversations but valid points. 

Iggy needs some vacation and some refresher training. He talks about his own issues with a patient and when patient picks up on what he said to make an argument, he says the conversation is not about him? Sure, Iggy. In a trial show that would be the moment the judge would have ruled to his objection: you opened the door counselor! 

I commented on the professor refusing care based on 400 years of genocide and oppression before I watched the episode and I haven't changed my opinion after watching but now I am even more irritated because those indigenous actors had to be part of the very badly written story. Like someone already mentioned, she could have gone to a different hospital and not risking her life. I can see the point of protesting, but there are ways of doing so. At this very moment, there is at least one person protesting the situation in Yemen by being on a hunger strike. There are people on hunger strike protesting incarceration and demanding the release of prisoners, there are so many cases of protests that get little attention but still more than someone dying because a blood clot that went untreated. The hospital would have granted her wishes and let her go instead of having a death in the charts. That's how reality is, how funding works, how their efficacy is graded. It sucks, but this is how things work in our "health" system. Had she died while Max, The Great White Savior ran around trying to fix the last 400 years, he would have been fired.

Another idiotic paternalistic fuck up in a story full of them.  Most Natives count out 500 hundred years of oppression. Starting in 1492 when Columbus got lost. I think the show was trying to use 1624 since that was when Manhattan was "purchased" but I've never heard a Native American use that date. Partly because we don't like distinguishing between groups but also that is pretty much when the Smallpox came and that affected everyone anyway.

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I am hoping we get off the Max naively and ineffectually tries to save all the sociological ills of the world train real quick.  I get it that Max is a crusader and always has been.  And part of his schtick is that he works in unconventional and shocking ways to get results. 

The show is trying to keep this aspect of Max's character but has lost how to make it believable and charming by swinging for the fences on massive systems that frankly are not Max's to try to solve in an hour.  What the writing needs to do is to keep the spirit of what Max is trying to do but radically downsize the scope of his ambitions.  His world is the hospital and that is his power.  He can affect change there without all the hyperbolic antics that come across as offensive.

10 hours ago, circumvent said:

I commented on the professor refusing care based on 400 years of genocide and oppression before I watched the episode and I haven't changed my opinion after watching but now I am even more irritated because those indigenous actors had to be part of the very badly written story.

Right?  This was badly written and in this case isn't just badly written for Max.  But also for the guest actor as well.  I was so puzzled as to why if New Amsterdam was so offensive why go there in the first place?  Why not leave and go elsewhere?  And if you are trying to become a political martyr for your cause, a private conversation with the doctor for your reasons won't propel your cause at all.

15 hours ago, bros402 said:

Lenapehoking is a mouthful, you need a different name, max

Naw.  New York state is chock full of original NA place names where people who live in and around those places say them with no issues.  I remember the first time I went to Buffalo, NY and we were on the Scajaqueda and I remember seeing the sign and trying to pronounce it and every other Buffalonian in the car was like no, it's like  this *says it flawlessly*

Iggy has become the worst doctor on the show consistently.  LOL.

I feel dumb but I hadn't expected them going there with Bloom and Leila.  Maybe If Bloom hadn't always presented as heterosexual I would have totally expected it because duh! tv.    I admit I didn't watch last week so maybe Bloom did give LeiIa the hint that she would be receptive to a kiss?  I admit I hate the tv trope where someone will just up and kiss a person where there hadn't been any talk or discussion of romantic involvement pre-kiss.

The chemistry between Floyd and the new OB-GYN is good.  I hope she isn't really married and there won't be drama.  Or maybe the show really needs that sort of drama rather than the Max sort? LOL.

If anyone is being trolled on the show it is the Max/Sharpe shippers.  There is just way tooo much UST there!  I admit they have chemistry to burn and would be very interested to see what a Max/Helen romantic relationship would look like.  Or maybe not given how clunky the writing has been on this show.