Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Kemper]

The only way this show could be interesting and surprising would be for Adam to find out about Billy sleeping with Summer and go to a tabloid with the story.  That would blow many lives up and bring some true drama.  How would Kyle react? Jack? Victoria? Nick? Billy enablers?And Phyllis? When Nick finds out she knew. Yes, since we know Phyllis must be in every storyline, get it out there from the beginning.  Because I can’t stand hearing anymore about “her” tacky hotel unless she loses it, loses Nick and ends up living under a bridge down by the river with Kevin (and his forehead) and Chloe.

 

[peacheslatour]

3 hours ago, Kemper said:

The only way this show could be interesting and surprising would be for Adam to find out about Billy sleeping with Summer and go to a tabloid with the story.  That would blow many lives up and bring some true drama.  How would Kyle react? Jack? Victoria? Nick? Billy enablers?And Phyllis? When Nick finds out she knew. Yes, since we know Phyllis must be in every storyline, get it out there from the beginning.  Because I can’t stand hearing anymore about “her” tacky hotel unless she loses it, loses Nick and ends up living under a bridge down by the river with Kevin (and his forehead) and Chloe.

 

I keep hoping it burns to the ground. With her in it.

[KLovestoShop]

Who the hell thinks that those big hangy/downies are a good look, especially when she’s either whipping her head around to get it out of her face or she’s pushing it with her hand?  Some idiot hairstylist must of thought that messy look is sexy.  NOT 

I just didn’t get the whole private jet business.  Buttbuscuit was such an arrogant ass that I had the urge to fly my private jet to where he is and smack him on the back of his head with a 5 lb hard salami.  Did anyone else get a whole “this jet is going to crash” vibe when the pilot came on to announce rough weather?  We haven’t had a good jet crash in a lot of years. Four passengers survive with amnesia and Kyle goes with Lily and Summer gets Buttbiscuit.  

I’m not at all a fan of this Amanda mommy hunt. If her bitchy half sister continues to threaten her, just pull billionaire Devon out of her pocket, call Victor and ask to borrow his henchmen, and then stormtrooper the family mansion.  Her family might be comfortable, bit I highly doubt they travel in Victor and Devon’s financial stratosphere. 

[Cupid Stunt]

10 hours ago, Kemper said:

The only way this show could be interesting and surprising would be for Adam to find out about Billy sleeping with Summer and go to a tabloid with the story. 

It's not written down somewhere, so how would Atonal find out? Anyone that does know about the revenge boink has no obligation to divulge it to him, being he's the main social pariah in Genoa City.

NotBilly and Dumber aren't going to bring up the subject. Kyle is in fuck with Dumber and has no reason to give up that greasy tidbit about his fuckbuddy. There's no profit in it for Phyllis to betray Dumber, especially when she's so busy stirring Atonal's guilt over his split allegiances between Chelsea and Sharon, and twisting Kevin's arm for dirt on Victoria. 

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 That would blow many lives up and bring some true drama.  How would Kyle react? Jack? Victoria? Nick? Billy enablers?

Kyle already knows Dumber one-night-boinked NotBilly -- Dumber and Kyle had a bet using Kyle's sports car or Dumb's vagina as collateral, that within a allotted period of time she would seduce NotBilly and be awarded Kyle's car, or she would have to boink Kyle. At the eleventh hour, Dumb boinked NotBiklly and the first person she told was Kyle  to collect her winnings. Kyle was disappointed, because he was in fuck with Dumber and thought there was no likelihood NotBilly would screw Dumber -- Wrong again, Kyle. Never bet against a sleazeball taking advantage of a free shag.

Immediately after the boink, NotBilly went to Gambler's Rehab (this was the CEO NotBilly embezzling money from Jabot/JaBoat era).

Jack, Victoria, Nick and the usual NotBilly enablers do not know about the boink.

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And Phyllis? When Nick finds out she knew. Yes, since we know Phyllis must be in every storyline, get it out there from the beginning.

It wouldn't be the first time Phyllis didn't tell Nick about issues with his kids (see Faith drinking with Jordan).

GTPhyllis knew that Dumber had been chasing NotBilly's tail as revenge against her mother for Dumber reasons. Dumber told Phyl after the deed was done, upset because post-Gambler's Rehab NotBilly said he had had revenge boinked Dumber to get back at Phyllis for not backing his power play at Jabot.  *Neener Neener*

"Boo Hoo, I'm so sorry for myself. My life is a mess," snots Dumber, and she's granted a real estate job in Dubai by Victor (because her entire life is an example of nepotism writ large) to take time off from Genoa City and get her away from Jabot/Jack influence ... Leaving on a jet plane ...

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Because I can’t stand hearing anymore about “her” tacky hotel unless she loses it, loses Nick and ends up living under a bridge down by the river with Kevin (and his forehead) and Chloe.

Phyllis would lose everything -- The Phoenix, Nick, Dumber -- if she spilled the revenge boink. 

Like I said earlier; there's no profit in it for Phyllis to help Atonal ruin everything of value to her.

It would be more in keeping with Phyllis to try blackmailing NotBilly with the revenge boink against his latest new lease on life, or whatever New Man Goals NotBilly's decided to pursue this week. She could threaten to ruin his good thing with Lily (who seems to be an amnesiac when it comes to the last ten years of NotBilly's rat bastard activities). It's unfortunate to see the new and improved Lily trolling the gutter with another scuzzball. 

NotBilly might consider biting on the threat, or just as likely tell Phyllis to pound sand.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Oh wow, I thought Elena looked very pretty in the hotel room today. Nate wasn't too bad either. 😛

They definitely seem to be positioning Lily and Billy as a power couple. Again, I don't hate it. It doesn't seem forced to me like when Billy was with Phyllis.

Well now, Imani knows how to make a strong entrance. Good casting on the actress, I think. She and Mishael Morgan have similar facial bone structures.

Oh Sally, ease up on schmoozing Summer. She's beneath you and hardly worth the effort.

Flying from WI to WA by way of Southern CA. Still a bad carbon footprint, fellas. So, they were on the Jabot jet. Summer, Billy, and Lily don't work at Jabot and Kyle isn't exactly making a business trip. Someone needs to call the IRS on these freeloading fools.

ChancComm getting into web medicine seems odd to me. I thought it was about business and entertainment news, and local gossip.

Shut up, Imani. A simple DNA test would prove Naya is lying. Pump your brakes, with your haughty self.

When Jack told Sally Kyle and Summer were meeting with someone at Spencer Publications her face fell about ten feet. Oy. (It's a long story but the owner of SP tried to kill her a while back, or at least he did something that almost led to her and his son's deaths. Then he was rewarded for his bad behavior by finally getting to screw his son's sex kitten wife. Fun times!)

Hmm, that was a very mature conversation Devon and Elena had. But I hope he's not softening toward her. He had a wistful look after she walked away. 😐

Interesting how Amanda and Imani have the same hand and arm movements. Could that be genetic? Or maybe it's an acting choice, like when Kyle sometimes makes the same grimace Jack does.

If Naya sent Imani to attack Amanda, dang, she is one mean mommy. I gotta hope Imani is simply going rogue because she doesn't want a surprise adult sibling, and Naya is merely in denial.

Summer out here trying to act like Lily's peer. Chile please. Lily probably has shoes with more gravitas than you.

I thought it was like a six-hour drive from GC to Willmette? Amanda must've teleported over there. 😊

Re the previews, it doesn't look like Amanda and Naya will be having a happy reunion. I agree with comments upthread, it might be time for Amanda to call out the billionaire cavalry. 😕

[basiltherat]

You say Billionaire Cavalry, I say Purse Holder (I wish Darvon would grow a backbone and not be so damned . . . nice!). 

An out-of-wedlock child 30 years ago was no big deal, so I'm wondering if its not that part of the story that has Naya  in high dudgeon, but perhaps the twinseses DADDY is the one that nobody is supposed to know about.  Perhaps he's a big bad whatever and Naya is scared (or ashamed) of him.

Is that Jack blabbing Summer's secrets or Gladys Kravitz . ,  I can't tell!  That's way below even what Phyl would do (unless there was something in it for her).

Oh noes, plane crash . . . where is the damned Briefcase of Justice when you need it (did Lily inherit it from Neil?)

[Cupid Stunt]

4 hours ago, LucindaWalsh said:

I hope that the Amanda story winds up bringing in her family. I can't recall now if this family is in GC? Or close by? I hope it is that way so there can be another pillar in the Abbott/Newman/Chancellor established influential family trope. Shallow note, Amanda is looking super skinny the last couple episodes. I keep wanting to leave fattening snacks out for her to munch on in her scenes. 

I see Hillary 2.0 is not following basic research or due diligence with Naya's family history and background, or she would have known that a politically affiliated family would aggressively put up barriers to avoid contact with her, however she stated she was related to them.

She assumes malicious intent and things not known to Naya's motives and actions, because this is All About Hillary 2.0! <shouting and keening for emphasis> For all Hillz 2.0 knows Naya's parents took the twins away from her at birth, said they were stillborn, handing Hillary 1.0  to Rose and Hillary 2.0 to the state, and no more was said about it as they directed Naya's life toward an intended top shelf lifestyle.

Step-sister storming and threatening was a rookie move, and the confrontation was ridiculous (Emmy reel material, and the step-sister was the big winner for the Gorgon Award). Hillary 2.0 pounding on Naya's front door, making a scene was amusing with the barking dogs and idle threats.

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I flipped forward all the wedding scenes. No interest at all in Sharon being married to Rey at all. I wish upon wish that they would send Rey into Victoria's orbit. So much potential there, imo.

Nothing to see with Sharon and Rey Rey. TIIC can't be bothered to show a few scenes of their honeymoon, so why should anyone invest in them? She's going to ruin him over her obsession with Atonal, and will have a million excuses why she's obligated to Atonal and not loyal to Rey Rey.

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I am going to love Kevin and Phyllis being up to shenanigans, it is what they do best. Phyllis is looking really bad lately though. (full body shiver) 

This is a stupid Plot Plot Plot. There's no reason on earth Kevin would tell Phyllis about the thumb drive Gloria was going to use as leverage as blackmail. Kevin should go directly to Victoria, drop off the thumb drive, and tell her Phyllis is gunning for her, before he ends up jobless or jailed for blackmail himself. Align yourself with the most money and power, if you want to stay out of jail, Kevin.

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I am beyond sick of Crimson Lights, Society, hotel rooms. Please bring back GCAC. If someone will give me a way to shout it to the ones in charge, I will. Why can't Nate and Elena have some scenes at Nate's house? And fluff you show for getting my hopes up with Elena's talk about finding her own place then her immediately being Nah!Gotcha! 

Show is visually dead staged in all the same venues. I don't think we're going to ever see the GCAC again.

I'd go for winter in Chancellor park. Coat porn and hot chocolate.

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I want a character overhaul for Mariah. I like her/the actress and yet I can't stand her. 

It's weird that Mariah has a new job at Jabot and we've not seen her at work. It seemed like a throw away Plot point to thwart Sally's career ambitions.

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That is Arturo? Huh. He can go. 

I would have preferred Celeste's return to Genoa City.

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Please don't put Sally and Jack together. Please fix her hair. I will be so glad when the world actually embraces an actual hair cut and style. Beyond sick of these flat ironed or fat droopy rolls being a style. That might be why I love Elena's new doo, it is a real hair cut. 

I don't understand what the alliance with Jack and Sally is supposed to lead toward: romance, business story, clothing design, war against Kyle and Dumber.

Wardrobe and hair has been unkind and very uneven with Sally. I'm not impressed.

[Cupid Stunt]

1 hour ago, KLovestoShop said:

I just didn’t get the whole private jet business.  Buttbuscuit was such an arrogant ass that I had the urge to fly my private jet to where he is and smack him on the back of his head with a 5 lb hard salami.  Did anyone else get a whole “this jet is going to crash” vibe when the pilot came on to announce rough weather?  We haven’t had a good jet crash in a lot of years. Four passengers survive with amnesia and Kyle goes with Lily and Summer gets Buttbiscuit.  

I thought Jabot and Chancellor Industries each had a corporate jet.

Since the previews show 

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Dumber and Kyle sniffing around Los Angeles for Sally Spectra bad acts and scuttlebutt,

a plane crash is unlikely.

[Waldo13]

Here we go again. No more bandages on Nate’s right hand and he’s moving his fingers pretty well in while texting Lily.  Also later when he’s holding the Champagne glass. Oh I almost forgot. Nate has a nice body but he’s a terrible leading man.  In that large bed, Elena looks like a 12 year old. 

Summer allergic to peanuts and wouldn’t Nostril know that.  So why would Nostrils be that crass to leave an open bag of peanuts on the table?  I’m pretty sure the plane is the Jabot Jet so how did Nostrils commandeer the Jet for his trip to Seattle. How did he get permission even to use the Jet.  They are both going to the West Coast but even from Seattle to LA that’s 3 hours of extra flying time and cost.  Sally asks for a thunderstorm over the Rockies and she gets one 👍. It couldn’t happen to a better foursome.  If you noticed, right before the turbulence, Summer was about to make herself a drink where the open bag of peanut sat. 

Does Nate realize that being the face of Ask MD would be a full time job just to respond to questions?  Or is he just the face and other doctors will be answering question?  

Why doesn’t Sally swallow her pride and give Wyatt a heads up about Summer’s visit?  Would Wyatt gossip about Sally?  

 

 

[nilyank]

12 hours ago, Kemper said:

The only way this show could be interesting and surprising would be for Adam to find out about Billy sleeping with Summer and go to a tabloid with the story.  That would blow many lives up and bring some true drama.

Since I find both Billie and Summer to be deluded and stupid, I would have them discussing their boinking on the night before Summer and Kyle's wedding like "can you believe that we slept together that one time." And then have Adam over hear/tape/film, then on the day of the wedding which is being filmed live at ChanceCom (whatever that stupid thing Jill made up to have Lily babysit her son), he slips in the recorded conversation. Then watch Victor plan vengance. Then see Nick punching Billie in the face. See Kyle pretend that he didn't know and dumping Summer at the altar. Then have Phyllis scrambling as Nick breaks up with her and another Newman takes her silly hotel away from her.

[KLovestoShop]

34 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

I thought Jabot and Chancellor Industries each had a corporate jet.

Since the previews show 

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Dumber and Kyle sniffing around Los Angeles for Sally Spectra bad acts and scuttlebutt,

a plane crash is unlikely.

Buttbiscuit said that Jill commandeered the Chancellor jet. 

[Cupid Stunt]

12 minutes ago, KLovestoShop said:

Buttbiscuit said that Jill commandeered the Chancellor jet. 

So NotBilly still has enough juice at Jabot to cadge a ride, plus one?

The Plot Plot Plotting is ludicrous. 

[boes]

4 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

I just didn’t get the whole private jet business.  Buttbuscuit was such an arrogant ass that I had the urge to fly my private jet to where he is and smack him on the back of his head with a 5 lb hard salami.  

Can I catch a ride with you?  While you smack ButtBiscuit with the salami I'll stuff his nostrils with cheese in a can.

He was so obnoxious he did the impossible and made me momentarily sympathetic to that other entitled ass, Kyle.   I'm fast losing my interest in the new and improved Lily, at least when she's with ButtBiscuit.  So "he's changed", has he?  Lily was with Cane long enough to know that the clearest  picture you'll ever get of how someone will eventually treat you is how he treats others.  I hope the next long term plot is Lily joining forces with Victoria on where to bury his remains.

I'm with Kyle, too.  I'd like to see ButtBiscuit tossed from the plane.  I wonder if he'd land on his nose and cushion the blow?

I don't dislike Sally - the presence of ButtBiscuit, Phyllis, Nick and Adam leaves me more tolerant of just run-of-the-mill annoying,  But pretty much every scene of Sally's seems to be the acting equivalent of Elaine's dancing.

Dance Elaine, dance!  Emote, Sally, emote!

I don't know the actor but whoever she is, she lit a fire as Amanda's sister in their shared scenes.  I sorta liked Amanda's fury, too.  They not only looked like they could be related, they acted like it too.

 

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Did anyone else get a whole “this jet is going to crash” vibe when the pilot came on to announce rough weather?

Nah, hitting turbulence over the Rockies is not unusual. He'd have to be a bad pilot not to be have been prepared for it. Plot points driven by disasters, natural or weather or otherwise were Chuck Pratt's game. Fortunately, per IMDb it appears he's been banished from daytime soaps after the number he did on Y&R.

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But pretty much every scene of Sally's seems to be the acting equivalent of Elaine's dancing.

Ehhhh, I definitely think the writing for Sally is a victim of the pandemic. The character wasn't like this on B&B. She was sassy and ambitious but the actress wasn't wandering from scene to scene mugging and trying not to act desperate. The MWTs seem to be hamstrung in how to help Y&R viewers get to know the characters within the current and hopefully temporary constraints.

Edited January 9, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu

[pearlite]

Those of you who can watch show at this point without managing to hit at least 3FF arrows, I congratulate!

All I'm seeing are repetitive exposition scenes--boy, the Exposition Fairy must be getting overtime. If it's not talktalktalk, it's Mariah [who's still pretty good and in character] gently fencing with Faith who then maintains the breathless pace of exposition via texts. Or Newmans doing more repetitive exposition over iced tea or something, or Nick and Flappy doing fill conversations. Or Airplane 2021! with mixed doubles...

So those who can watch in real time, I salute you--you're better men and women than I, Gunga Din.

[Snaporaz]

If the plane crashes, maybe it can be like that movie about the Uruguayan soccer team or the Donner Party.  Summer's lips alone will keep them all well fed through the spring, although they will starve if they have to rely on Lily's corpse for sustenance.

The commercial for the two-week B&B crossover hinted that Felonious Flo may be the one to spill Sally's tea.  If that happens, I may start throwing things at the tv.  

Edited January 10, 2021 by Snaporaz

[drtslim]

On 1/8/2021 at 6:03 PM, Cupid Stunt said:

Kyle already knows Dumber one-night-boinked NotBilly -- Dumber and Kyle had a bet using Kyle's sports car or Dumb's vagina as collateral, that within a allotted period of time she would seduce NotBilly and be awarded Kyle's car, or she would have to boink Kyle. At the eleventh hour, Dumb boinked NotBiklly and the first person she told was Kyle  to collect her winnings. Kyle was disappointed, because he was in fuck with Dumber and thought there was no likelihood NotBilly would screw Dumber -- Wrong again, Kyle. Never bet against a sleazeball taking advantage of a free shag.

Actually Kyle doesn't know.  Summer lied and said that she didn't sleep with Billy so Kyle "won" the bet.  They were about to have sex; but Kyle realized that he had real feelings for Summer and pretended to fall asleep because he wanted it to be real or something...

[crowsworks]

Do we think that Nick and Prick & Vic would be OK with Unca Billy revenge screwing someones daughter to get even with them. He came on heavy to Summer - and she like an immature infatuated dork slept with him - after which he rolled off and told her he just did it to get even with her mom. Nasty. And I can't stand Dummer.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Actually Kyle doesn't know. 

Nope, he does. From the show transcripts at TVMegasite:

October 10, 2018 -- Summer tells Kyle she slept with Billy

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Kyle: Mm.

[ Sighs ] Well?

Summer: Well, I met your adorable new girlfriend. We talked. That's it.

Kyle: You're jealous.

Summer: Mm, not even a little bit, no, because guess what? I found someone new, too.

Kyle: Oh. This guy know you're stalking him?

Summer: Ha, ha. It just so happens that he is very grateful to have me in his life because he's going through a rough patch right now, and I'm the only person that's been there for him, who's been loyal and faithful.

Kyle: Sounds like this has been going on for a while. I know the guy?

Summer: Well, let's see. You screwed him over, and you helped shove him out of his job. So, yeah, I'd say you know him.

Kyle: Billy?

Summer: Told you it would happen.

Kyle: There's no way you're seeing billy.

Summer: Oh, no, I've seen a lot of billy -- a whole lot.

Kyle: I don't buy it.

Summer: Okay, well, he came to me one night and didn't leave till the next morning. Need I say more?

Kyle: Please don'T.

Summer: One little tidbit, though. It was amazing, better than any I've ever had before.

Kyle: And you've been together ever since.

Summer: We will be, once he gets out of rehab, which I hope will be soon.

Kyle: You hope? He didn't tell you?

Summer: It's rehab. They probably take your phone away.

Kyle: So, let me get this straight. Sex one night, radio silence the next. Sounds like a real love story. Phyllis know about this?

Summer: Not yet, but once billy's back, everybody will know.

Kyle: Yeah. You keep telling yourself that.

October 17, 2018 -- Kyle tells Billy he knows Billy slept with Summer

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Kyle: Hey.

Billy: Don't talk to me.

Kyle: Even if it's about summer and you?

Billy: I don't care what you think you know, kyle.

Kyle: You went to bed with her. After you found out phyllis did the same with nick.

Billy: It's none of your business.

Kyle: It kind of is, since she confided in me. And even though she said it meant something to her, she hasn't heard from you since.

Billy: What would you like me to do?

Kyle: Speak to her. She deserves to know where she stands, 'cause i sure as hell have no idea. Do you?

And then later in the October 17 episode, Summer tries to press Billy about his ghosting her and just as he's about to drop the hammer, Phyllis shows up:

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Billy: [ Sighs ] I've tried to be reasonable. Even kind. But you're not getting it, so I'll be blunt. I have no romantic interest in you. None.

[ Door opens ]

Phyllis: Hey. I heard you were in the building. What's going on here?

Billy: I was just about to tell summer that the reason why I slept with her was knowing what it would do to you when you found out. So there we go. Now you know.

So to recap, Summer told Kyle, Kyle told Billy he knew, and Billy told Summer and Phyllis it was revenge sex. Billy, Summer, Phyllis, and Kyle all know. Now it's just a matter of which of them will spill to Nick.

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[peacheslatour]

31 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Nope, he does. From the show transcripts at TVMegasite:

October 10, 2018 -- Summer tells Kyle she slept with Billy

October 17, 2018 -- Kyle tells Billy he knows Billy slept with Summer

And then later in the October 17 episode, Summer tries to press Billy about his ghosting her and just as he's about to drop the hammer, Phyllis shows up:

So to recap, Summer told Kyle, Kyle told Billy he knew, and Billy told Summer and Phyllis it was revenge sex. Billy, Summer, Phyllis, and Kyle all know. Now it's just a matter of which of them will spill to Nick.

I think it will be Phyllis. They'll gt into a big fight about her enabling Faith and he'll go on about his "sweet, innocent" daughter and Pill will somehow drag in the fact that he's so blind to his daughters various shenanigans and blurt out that his other "sweet, innocent" daughter slept with Billy.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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I think it will be Phyllis. They'll gt into a big fight about her enabling Faith and he'll go on about his "sweet, innocent" daughter and Pill will somehow drag in the fact that he's so blind to his daughters various shenanigans and blurt out that his other "sweet, innocent" daughter slept with Billy.

That'll work. And then Nick will get to say, "You knew? And you didn't tell me?" Bonus points if this reveal happens in front of Billy and/or Summer.

[peacheslatour]

9 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

That'll work. And then Nick will get to say, "You knew? And you didn't tell me?" Bonus points if this reveal happens in front of Billy and/or Summer.

Oh yeah, Mr; Highandmighty will flip the fuck out. I just hope he doesn't go running back to Sharon. The might be the last straw for me and Show.

[jewel21]

4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Nope, he does. From the show transcripts at TVMegasite:

October 10, 2018 -- Summer tells Kyle she slept with Billy

October 17, 2018 -- Kyle tells Billy he knows Billy slept with Summer

And then later in the October 17 episode, Summer tries to press Billy about his ghosting her and just as he's about to drop the hammer, Phyllis shows up:

So to recap, Summer told Kyle, Kyle told Billy he knew, and Billy told Summer and Phyllis it was revenge sex. Billy, Summer, Phyllis, and Kyle all know. Now it's just a matter of which of them will spill to Nick.

Thank you! Nice to know my memory is correct for once, heh. 

I swore they already knew but there seemed to be some doubt on these boards and I started second-guessing myself. 

[drtslim]

3 hours ago, jewel21 said:

Thank you! Nice to know my memory is correct for once, heh. 

I swore they already knew but there seemed to be some doubt on these boards and I started second-guessing myself. 

 

7 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Nope, he does. From the show transcripts at TVMegasite:

October 10, 2018 -- Summer tells Kyle she slept with Billy

October 17, 2018 -- Kyle tells Billy he knows Billy slept with Summer

And then later in the October 17 episode, Summer tries to press Billy about his ghosting her and just as he's about to drop the hammer, Phyllis shows up:

So to recap, Summer told Kyle, Kyle told Billy he knew, and Billy told Summer and Phyllis it was revenge sex. Billy, Summer, Phyllis, and Kyle all know. Now it's just a matter of which of them will spill to Nick.

Now I'm confused; because I remember seeing scenes of Kyle and Summer in a hotel about to have sex and Kyle stopping because he didn't want it to be about a bet.  Did she lie at first and then admit to having sex with Billy?

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Now I'm confused; because I remember seeing scenes of Kyle and Summer in a hotel about to have sex and Kyle stopping because he didn't want it to be about a bet.  Did she lie at first and then admit to having sex with Billy?

Summer did try to pay off the bet with Kyle, but it happened a few weeks before she actually managed to sleep with Billy. Billy was fed up with her repeated attempts to get with him. He told her he was staying with Phyllis and he wouldn't be having any more discussions with Summer about it. She then decided to go sleep with Kyle via the bet payoff.

In the hotel room, after they'd been making out a while, Kyle started getting nostalgic about his and Summer's previous attempts to be a couple. Summer didn't care about all that, she just wanted to do the deed without the emotions. When she retreated to the bathroom to change into some sexy lingerie, Kyle realized he didn't want to be her consolation prize. So when Summer returned from the bathroom, Kyle was in bed pretending to be knocked out from the booze they'd been drinking. The next morning when Summer woke up he was gone. Later Kyle had a conversation with Mariah at the coffeehouse in which it was revealed that he cared for Summer too much to have casual sex with her. However, he told Summer he thought it was best they just remain friends with no benefits, and shortly thereafter he met Lola.

The Y&R recaps at Soaps She Knows cover it pretty well, starting around here. Warning: you have to wade through all the other storylines to get to the Summer, Kyle, Billy, and Phyllis stuff.

[Kemper]

The Billy/Summer one-night-stand could be a huge story with so many ripples.  Yet we get the boring foursome stuck in a snowstorm?  Victoria growling?  Nick being a chest-thumping wuss.  And way too much Phyllis.  All of these characters would be on the canvas if Billy's black heart would be revealed.  It is like the show/writers are pretending it never happened; they are trying to make Billy Boy into a brave crusader with "slight" flaws that women line up to fix.  Lily's taste in men is all in her mouth.  Speaking of..

I thought I saw where Daniel Goddard got another soap role.  

[peacheslatour]

I wonder who's changing Chelz's didies? I can't really picture AA doing it.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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I thought I saw where Daniel Goddard got another soap role.  

There was a short-lived spumor that he was joining DAYS in a high-profile recast but it was shot down. Since he participated in the spreading of that spumor on social media, I'm betting he either helped start it or got someone to do it on his behalf.

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I wonder who's changing Chelz's didies? I can't really picture AA doing it.

Adam probably didn't even change Connor's diapers. Didn't he say he'd hired live-in staff for Chelsea? That's likely one of their jobs.

[Jaded]

55 minutes ago, Kemper said:

The Billy/Summer one-night-stand could be a huge story with so many ripples.  Yet we get the boring foursome stuck in a snowstorm?  Victoria growling?  Nick being a chest-thumping wuss.  And way too much Phyllis.  All of these characters would be on the canvas if Billy's black heart would be revealed.  It is like the show/writers are pretending it never happened; they are trying to make Billy Boy into a brave crusader with "slight" flaws that women line up to fix.  Lily's taste in men is all in her mouth.  Speaking of..

I thought I saw where Daniel Goddard got another soap role.  

He tried to wish one into existence on his social media accounts when Soaps.com posted a year end thing that involved what they considered to be wishful thinking.  He had to delete his posts later.

[peacheslatour]

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Adam probably didn't even change Connor's diapers. Didn't he say he'd hired live-in staff for Chelsea? That's likely one of their jobs.

Yep. And yeah, I just saw the part where AA says the nurse is in the other room.

[boes]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

I wonder who's changing Chelz's didies? I can't really picture AA doing it.

Maybe he's waiting for Sharon to offer?

And she will because she's a SAINT!  

He better not ask Chloe or he'll be getting them back as a casserole.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Man, if looks could kill Amanda would be a pile of dust. I don't think she has handled this situation with Naya well at all. Maybe she should've done more research before she tried to force her way into Naya's life.

Truth or Dare? Seems to me Never Have I Ever would have been a juicier choice for that bunch. 🤫

I hate this show for making me feel sorry for Chelsea. She's totally at Adam's mercy and Chloe is her only friend. I wouldn't wish that on Phyllis.

Good grief, where did the jet land, in a closed shopping center parking lot? Why is there not an airport terminal? Walking around at night in an unfamiliar area looking for a hotel during a blizzard makes no sense to me if their cell phones work.

Phyllis is utterly deranged. She's acting as giddy as a 12-year old about to turn 13. Kevin should've never told Phyllis about that flash drive. Now Phyllis is likely going to go after Gloria to get the info.

Meh, have Summer and Kyle really known each all their lives? I don't recall Diane and Phyllis being friendly enough to have their kids hanging out together. Maybe the intersection was Jack. 🤔

Adam stays looking for trouble. Why does he keep going to the coffeehouse or Society knowing he's likely to run into people who don't want to see him?

Naya must have used the same transporter as Amanda. Wasn't the drive between GC and Wilmette several hours when Devon and Amanda did it? Now it's like Wilmette is a nearby suburb of GC or something.

Wonder if the Goofy Gang of Four will need to have an orgy on the plane to keep from freezing to death, lol? 😏

What would be interesting is if the flight crew took the opportunity to hold their captive passengers for ransom. Three of them are heirs to massive family fortunes and Lily's brother is a billionaire. 

I sure hope Faith texted Lola and not bad influence Jordan. 😕

[peacheslatour]

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I hate this show for making me feel sorry for Chelsea. She's totally at Adam's mercy and Chloe is her only friend. I wouldn't wish that on Phyllis.

I would. I wanted to smack her so bad today. I'm glad Chipmunk turned her down.

[Gam2]

I’ve always thought that Phyllis was deranged but her behavior today just proved me right. She just gets worse and worse and more over the top each day. 

[deirdra]

Did Adam turn the front closet into Chelsea's room?

Edited January 12, 2021 by deirdra

[Waldo13]

If the Jet was on its way flying to Seattle, it would be very highly unlikely that there was an emergency landing in Colorado because Colorado is way south of Washington. On the other hand it would be much much more of a possibility if LA was the intended destination.  Than I guess Kyle got his way and they were on their way to LA.  I know Colorado enough to know that any airport where a Jet that size can land safely, in a snowstorm, hotels wouldn’t be that far away.  Another thing that TIIC have forgotten is that for there to be heat and light an engine has to be running. Could we please get just a little sound effects.  

I really hate to say this (not) that Olive Oyl is becoming even more obnoxious than Nostrils. I wish that Olive gets trench mouth, a vaginal invention, and the Hershey Squirts all at the same time for being that obnoxious.  Maybe it’s just really jealousy because Victor is her’s and her’s alone.  Olive has become the masters of masters for her bitch face.  Olive, like you have never turned on Victor. 

Has anyone else noticed that Chloe and Kevin are a little less 🤢🤮 when they are not together.  Banana Breath and Phyllis no matter what they are still 🤢🤮. 

[peacheslatour]

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I really hate to say this (not) that Olive Oyl is becoming even more obnoxious than Nostrils. 

She's not wrong about Atonal.

[jewel21]

6 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Naya must have used the same transporter as Amanda. Wasn't the drive between GC and Wilmette several hours when Devon and Amanda did it? Now it's like Wilmette is a nearby suburb of GC or something.

I believe it was established early on that it was an hour drive to Wilmette. 

@Waldo13 I believe Kyle told Summer the pilot confirmed they were landing in L.A. first. 

[Cupid Stunt]

21 hours ago, Kemper said:

The Billy/Summer one-night-stand could be a huge story with so many ripples.    

Dumber alluded to Lily  about her past attraction of NotBiily during his Phyllis Era. Once mentioned, I expect TIIC to have the Revenge Fuck Discussion broadcast where anyone can overhear.

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Yet we get the boring foursome stuck in a snowstorm?  

[ominous moron music]

This is how Nick finds out about about Revenge Fuck.

[Runningwild]

16 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

If the Jet was on its way flying to Seattle, it would be very highly unlikely that there was an emergency landing in Colorado because Colorado is way south of Washington. On the other hand it would be much much more of a possibility if LA was the intended destination.  Than I guess Kyle got his way and they were on their way to LA.  I know Colorado enough to know that any airport where a Jet that size can land safely, in a snowstorm, hotels wouldn’t be that far away.   

It’s a private jet, not a jumbo jet. There are plenty of airports across the country that are large enough to land a private jet yet with no hotels nearby and maybe even close for the evening. Check out Shenandoah Valley Airport in Weyers Cave, VA for one. 

[Waldo13]

2 hours ago, Runningwild said:

It’s a private jet, not a jumbo jet. There are plenty of airports across the country that are large enough to land a private jet yet with no hotels nearby and maybe even close for the evening. Check out Shenandoah Valley Airport in Weyers Cave, VA for one. 

I just want to reiterate that they were pretty sure that they landed in Colorado and I was talking about Colorado airports. 
 

For the pilots to make a dire emergency landing, I’m sure they wouldn’t choose a small airport, especially in a mountainous area, without ground control and the ability to clear snow from the runway. As I said, I don’t know of any airport, in Colorado, that has that capability that is in the middle of no place.  

In the real world, why would an emergency landing be necessary because of turbulence. If it was because of a snow storm, private jets have the capacity to fly above the storm.  Nostrils mentioned that because of headwinds, it would have been better to fly to Seattle first. Unless Nostrils was full of shit, the pilots checked the weather maps before taking off. It would be very likely that a snow storm would have shown up.  The pilot recognized turbulence ahead, so, I would imagine, the jet had its own weather radar.  Snow in the Rocky Mts are almost a daily occurrence. In Vail, if they don’t have over 400 inches of snow, it’s considered a bad winter. 
 

Yes, most private jets are smaller and can takeoff/land in smaller airports but not in major snowstorms.
 

But why am I questioning TIIC.  It’s not about the bass, it’s all about the treble or should I say it’s not about reality, it’s all about the drama. 

[peacheslatour]

So Buttbiscuit spills to Lily about boinking Dummer. How soon before she tells Devon, who tells Amanda, who tells Abby, who tells Victoria? Who will immediately tell Nick. And then the fecal matter will be propelled against the cooling device.

[Joimiaroxeu]

This guy again. 🤨

I lowkey need for someone to explain how jets work because it seems to me it'd be very cold sitting in a blizzard unless the jet had a heating system that works while it's parked with the engines idling. Does keeping the lights and heat running not use fuel? Why didn't the merry four go into the terminal instead wasting jet fuel on the tarmac? AFAIC they pretty much told Jabot's carbon footprint to go eff itself.

So now they've got Billy of all people tongue-bathing Summer. Yeesh.

Is it against broadcast standards and practices to say the word "period" in reference to a woman's menstrual cycle? A married woman who's well into adulthood? Good grief, it's 2021 not 1621.

Did Billy think Lily went deaf or something? Time and place, fella. 🙄 Meanwhile, William, how about a nice rendition of an R&B classic, courtesy of Bonnie Raitt:

Stand back, Imani coming in hot. Again. Yawn.

"Delusional," Imani? Sweetums, there's this amazing technology called DNA testing can easily prove who's clinging to a fantasy. Spoiler alert: it's not your new-to-you sister.

Ehhh, am I supposed to be giving Billy brownie points for being immediately honest with Lily about what he did to Summer? Maybe that was a secret Lily would've preferred not to be responsible for keeping.

On AMC there was a character whose baby-making parts were discovered to be "allergic" to her husband's sperm and she ended up having to use a surrogate. Maybe that's where Y&R is going with Abby and He Who Shall Not Be Named by Joi.

And again Amanda just shows up at Devon's door. You'd think he'd start getting annoyed because she's kind of taking him for granted, no? But at least she didn't run to Phyllis. 😑

Re the discussion upthread about where the jet landed during the storm, we don't know whether it was the mountains, the Front Range, or the Western Slope. I agree that it probably wasn't in the mountains but I think they could've easily landed somewhere on either side of the mountains where there isn't enough population or travelers to warrant a hotel right next to the airport. It's a bigger state than many realize. Thirty miles might've been a stretch though. I bet either someone misspoke their line, the MWTs didn't do proper research, or, they were deliberately trying to avoid using an identifiable location. (And FWIW, I've been on very small jet that took off during a raging snowstorm and flew over mountains. Flashbacks. I haz dem. 😳)

[Waldo13]

Aw! Poor Amanda was a mistake. Did she actually think she was planned?  Amanda got the answers she wanted. Teenager gets pregnant, religious family so there is no abortion, overbearing parents take charge and their can only be complacency.  So why is Amanda so confrontational?  Me me me, it’s all about Amanda. She just had to give her mother a guilt trip?  It actually served no purpose. The mother didn’t have a choice. Ananda, listen with your ears and not your mouth.  By the daughters actions, we can just imagine what Naya’s  parents were like, CONTROLLING!  COME MOMA, like Imani was calling a dog.  

 

Didn’t Chance imply that Abby was still on her period and Abby still thinks she is pregnant.  Stupid Rabbit, if your having your period, your not pregnant.  Just calm down and take a Mydol. 

 

Nostrils, that fucking idiot, just had to apologize at that moment not knowing if Lily was able to hear. Nostrils, have you heard that discretion is the better part of valor and whispering in a small enclosed area is preferred unless you don’t give a shit.  And just like that the snow storm is over and the Jet is able to take off from a snow covered rural airport and land in LA.  Do TIIC care anything about a carbon footprint?  LA to Seattle, Seattle to GC, GC to LA, and LA to GC. Big sport Nostrils will chip in when he should be paying in full for 3 legs of the jets flight. A contrite Nostrils is more 🤢🤮than an obnoxious Nostrils. 

 

Lily, I didn’t think you were that shallow even though I’m glad you are. You know about Nostrils’ embezzlement, his gambling, fathering a child with Chelsea, trying to kill Adam at least once, child abuse, and his affair with Phyllis while married to Jack but sleeping with Summer is the possible deal breaker. WTF?  Lily, it was consensual. 

 

Chance, no sign of a bullet wound nor an operation scar so Go Back To Work. Abby’s OCD is worse than being shot at. 

[KLovestoShop]

Why are the writers so nutty about Abby getting knocked up?  They’ve been married all of 5 minutes and she’s going bonkers that Chance hasn’t knocked her up already.  The basic rule is, if you’re working yourself up to the point of depression, it’s all the more difficult to get pregnant.  
 

Waldo, in the early weeks of pregnancy, you can appear to have your period and still be pregnant.  It happened to my mom and her sister and they both had healthy pregnancies.  

[Snaporaz]

Abby, forget the blue lines on the stick and get a giant Q-Tip to ram up your nose.  You're married to an anti-masker and he probably gave you Covid.

Wasn't "Hilary" an alias that Ann Turner used to conceal her identity from Neil when she first came to GC?  Yeah, she eventually ran with it (although I was never sure she legally changed her name), but Naya would have no idea who Hilary Curtis was if she hadn't kept tabs on her bio-child's life.  Why didn't Amanda use her sister's real name?  

This cross-over may be worth it if we get some $Bill as a part of the bargain.  He's been MIA from B&B for a long time now.  Too bad that neither Kyle nor Summer ever met Brad Carlton, or they could say, "Hey, you look kind of familiar..."

[deirdra]

31 minutes ago, Snaporaz said:

Too bad that neither Kyle nor Summer ever met Brad Carlton, or they could say, "Hey, you look kind of familiar..."

Kyle should at least have seen a photo of him around the Abbott house, which is full of photos, since Bradsicle was married to both of Kyle's aunts and was father/stepfather to his cousins Colleen and Abby.  I'd love to hear Kyle say "Hey, you look kind of familiar..."!  But TPTB are probably too clueless to indulge us.

Edited January 13, 2021 by deirdra

[boes]

I've been watching Show this past week, more or less but not commenting much.  The storylines generally have had a stuck-in-traffic feel and besides, what's been going on in the world kept my focus ...... elsewhere?  Does that work?  Besides, it seems that if the screen isn't been eaten by Phyllis it's been swallowed whole by ButtBiscuit.  But today had some IMO good stuff and by that I mean Amanda's scenes with her mother.

I'm impressed that Show didn't got the conventional route, have the mother and/or child be overjoyed at the reunion or having the conception of the child be something horrible.  Instead, as it played out (at least so far) it was a far more commonplace storyline and the aftermath of the reunion having more complicated emotions and reactions.  Show stayed out of Movie of the Week and I appreciate it.  I thought MM and the woman playing her birth mother both did a good job.

I'm no fan of Kyle these days but his actions aren't remotely comparable to ButtBiscuit's bad behavior on that plane or anywhere else.  ButtBiscuit pushed his way onto a private jet he has no right to use and then spent the trip insulting the guy who could have had his flat ass dragged off the plane.  Lily says he's "changed" and today Dummer said he's "changed".  How exactly?  As far as I can see he's still an utterly self-involved, noxious, selfish prick of a person.  Dummer doesn't want to talk about what they did but he does so under the guise of doing the right thing he forces the conversation.  He tells Lily the truth after she asks and then tells her he wanted to tell her.  Really?  Then why did it take until she overheard he and Dummer for him to do it?  He thinks he has the "right" to needle Kyle - why, again?

Show dishes ButtBiscuit out in huge helpings like Lutefisk at a midwest Lutheran Christmas casserole dinner and he smells even worse and is just as unwelcome.  He reminds me of a case of canned green beans we had to eat when I was a kid.  We were a big family, money was tight more often than not and there was a period where my mother had to do her shopping at the dented can store.  Once she came home with a whole case of canned green beans - 48 cans to a case - and we had them every day until they were gone.  ButtBiscuit is as welcome on my screen as canned green beans would be on my dinner plate at this point.  

Too bad, though that we didn't have ButtBiscuit at our house.  With the size of that proboscis he would have made a great walk-in pantry.  Dad could have thrown up some shelves for storage, maybe a window to the back yard and we could even have kept the litter box for the cat in there.

Which is the only use this character could ever serve.  He's the equivalent of a mess of dented cans.....dented cans that smell like a lutefisk casserole.  What a catch, great life choice there Lily!

Edited January 14, 2021 by boes

[deirdra]

TPTB seem to think that if they have everyone saying "he's changed" often enough that we will believe it.  We don't.  If they want us to believe he has changed, they must show us.

[Waldo13]

2 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

Why are the writers so nutty about Abby getting knocked up?  They’ve been married all of 5 minutes and she’s going bonkers that Chance hasn’t knocked her up already.  The basic rule is, if you’re working yourself up to the point of depression, it’s all the more difficult to get pregnant.  
 

Waldo, in the early weeks of pregnancy, you can appear to have your period and still be pregnant.  It happened to my mom and her sister and they both had healthy pregnancies.  

You are absolutely correct about the early weeks of pregnancy but I took Chances’ comment and Abby’s reply as to that her period was more in the middle stages than the early stages. 
 

Good point as to why they didn’t go into the terminal to keep warm.  As long as an engine is running, it generates electricity to keep the batteries charge for light. The heating system uses the same fuel that the engines use but also needs electrical power.  An external power source would be used instead of running an engine but the external power source would be provided by the airport. On the front range you have Denver Airport. Mid Rockies you have Aspen and Eagle/Vail airport back range you have smaller airfields but they all would have near by accommodation for skiers. One major thing about Colorado, if there is snow, there is someone to ski it and a way to get there by plane.  Also, Colorado is only flat to about 30 miles past Denver, which is considered the front range. From there to the Utah border, Colorado is pretty much a mountainous terrain. Yes there are roads but they are mountain passes and are mostly closed during the winter. Even the main hwy, I-70, is a mountain pass and is subject to close in heavy snow storms. 

Edited January 13, 2021 by Waldo13