Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[blackwing]

On 4/14/2023 at 10:28 AM, jqdeco said:

I wasn’t watching the show when Diane was on before so I don’t know the history. Aside from faking her death, what did she do? You would think someone would have recapped it by now. Or maybe I zoned out when that happened. I’m still trying to understand what Phyllis gets out of faking her own death, other than setting up Diane and abandoning her kids, which seems to be her biggest complaint against Diane. If she was truly worried about Diane taking over her life, then stay and fight. I just don’t understand this storyline.

 

On 4/14/2023 at 8:23 AM, Chatty Cake said:

Eww. I can’t take much more of this Saint Phyllis bullshit. Why can’t she die for real? 
Can’t one moron on the GCPD figure out that perhaps this is a setup? 
Victoria and Nate getting drunk and getting their sex on at work is the least sexy thing I’ve seen.

I loathe Phyllis, so I am 100% Team Diane.  I didn't watch when original Diane was on but I love the Susan Walters Mulva Diane.  If there was a way they could bring back Linden Ashby, either as Cameron Kirsten or a twin, that'd be great.  I didn't care for Maura West as Diane at all, but mainly because I resented the fact that Mulva was gone.

I just don't understand the stupidity of Phyllis faking her own death.  Is this to prove a point, because Diane also faked her own death?

I also don't understand the stupidity of everyone at the memorial.  Everyone in the room was known to everyone else with the exception of the three people standing in the corner.  Wouldn't at least one person have talked to those people and asked them how they knew Phyllis?  How is it that nobody couldn't see through that disguise?

On 4/14/2023 at 1:13 PM, gingerella said:

There is no excuse for Danny Romolatti, period.

I have long loathed this character and Michael Damian.  The actor and the character have always seemed extremely effeminate to me, I have no idea why women on the show seem completely besotted with him.  The hair and the way he speaks are odd.

[NinjaPenguins]

Kyle: You’re right, dad. This pacing thing is way better at relieving stress than romancing a hat. God, what a nightmare. Mom in jail for something she didn’t do.

Jack: Worse yet, if she had done it? This city should give her a medal.

Kyle: Amen. We have to prove her innocence. My marriage can’t survive a sexy detective investigating this crime.

Jack: We’re going to have to be the ones to exonerate Diane. Let’s put on our thinking caps.

Kyle: Sproing!

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Jeremy: Where’d you find that velour, damn you? Answer me! If you stole it out of my suitcase, I swear to god I’ll kill you.

Phyllis: You think you’re scaring me? You don’t choose violence every day. I wake up with violence, I eat violence for breakfast, and I brush my teeth with violence.

Jeremy: Do you mean you brush your teeth with violet?

Phyllis: Nothing is more terrifying to me than my children needing me and I’m not there. They’re in pain. They’re tortured.

Jeremy: You don’t know what I’m capable of. Clearly it’s not murder, because most criminals would have waxed your boney maroney ass by now. I’m going to keep trying to talk sense to your crazy self. But I’m not going to jail. There’s no velour in jail.

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Chance: Why are you here?

Summer: They told me at the GCPD that you moved your office here.

Chance: It is convenient. And they keep giving me free food.

Summer: I need to be here. I can’t stop thinking about this place. Where did you get food? There was none at the gala.

Chance: Boy, you’re as smart as they come.

Summer: I’ve been told that.

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Adam: When we find out what sex the baby is, you can design some chic baby clothes for them. I bet you have all kinds of outfits planned.

Sally: I’m ashamed to say I hadn’t even thought of that. 

Adam: No snakeskin tho.

The air grows still and fetid. Sally and Adam have been… crop dusted. From two directions.

Adam: Hot damn, a Newman family reunion. Sorry I forgot the potato salad.

Nick: You should be. Nick hungry!

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Kyle: It’s just you and me, Dad. The Lone Ranger and Toronto.

Jack: We certainly don’t have a lot of support in this house.

Kyle: My wife is an asshole.

Jack: But we have to be considerate. She is a grieving asshole.

Kyle: The obvious culprit is Jeremy Stark. He murdered Phyllis to frame Mom. Bet he planted all this so-called evidence too.

Jack: He’s wanted revenge ever since Diane and I engineered that clumsy jewel heist. We really made a mistake, sticking it to him.

Kyle: It’s not your fault. But we’ve got to be careful, now that we know Jeremy Stark is a murderer. I’m going to armor up my bouffant, for one.

Jack: I’ll beef up security around the house. Maybe we’ll start locking the door.

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Chance: I hope you’re not blaming yourself, Summer. None of this was your fault.

Summer: I didn’t take my mom’s paranoid, obsessive ramblings seriously. I should have believed in her toxic, all-consuming fixation on Diane as some sort of hellbeast.

Chance: I don’t know what to say. I wasn’t raised by a demon.

Summer: I cut her out of my life. Just because she was a selfish, maniacal narcissist. What kind of daughter does that? I keep seeing her gently float to the floor over and over again. Do you need another statement? A sidekick? I’ve memorized every detail of that night.

Chance: Why don’t I call someone for you? Your brother, your husband, your dad? Someone who owns a butterfly net?

Summer: My brother’s sulking too much to get him riled up for a vendetta. My dad will just want to give me a shoulder to cry on, and it’s always the one he didn’t shave. Kyle, meh. He thinks the sun shines out of his mother’s ass.

Chance: What did you hope to get out of coming here? I can’t tell you anything about the investigation.

Summer: I want the person who murdered my mom to burn in the blistering fires of hell while Satan loofahs them with a flaming porcupine.

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Jeremy: Your kids only like you now because you’re dead.

Phyllis: Look, I’ll tell everyone it was my plan. I’ll leave your name out of it.

Jeremy: We’re married. Your criming is considered community property within Genoa City. I’d rather see you in a shallow grave than the inside of a jail cell ever again.

Phyllis: You better eat your Wheaties and dig a hole down to the earth’s core if you want to stop me. I am not going to look in the mirror every day and see Diane Jenkins looking back at me. Her make-up is far too subtle. Plus she let her son think she was dead for years.

Jeremy: She’s also going to be the town martyr while you rot in prison for setting her up. Your kids will despise you for putting them through hell just for revenge.

Phyllis: You’re right. Oh well. I give up.

Jeremy: I’ve decided that my brain is where criminal savvy goes to die. I’mma transfer half your money to my offshore account.

Phyllis: That’s pretty fucking stupid. Don’t you think people are watching your financial transactions?

Jeremy: Excellent point. How would you feel if I got a little rapey? It’s time to turn the villainy up to 11.

Phyllis: No complications, kthxbai.

Jeremy: I’m going to blow past sex pest and go straight to slasher flick antagonist. I believe they call this move the “Ashland Locke.”

Phyllis: Fuck around and find out.

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Nick: I put hands on my property like a manly man.

Adam: Now I’m going to explain why I was talking to Sally, the mother of my child, in a manner that suggests I’m addressing her abusive boyfriend.

Sally: Oh goody. A Newman alpha male-off. Gotta go.

Nick: I have heroically arrived in the nick of time to escort my fair damsel to her home at the Athletic Club. Hey, when did you move there?

Sally: They had to fumigate your, um, satellite office in the Grafted Porterhouse. Dung beetle infestation.

Nick: Cool.

Adam: Cya later. Thanks, Sally, for - well, thanks. We must spare the baboon’s feelings, after all.

Victor: What inthehellareyou doing, son?

Adam: Tra la la la.

Victor: I’m talking to you, k? Don’t walk away from your father, yougotthat?

Adam: Fine. Got another company you want to tease me with?

Victor: What are you thinking, talking with Sally Spectra. She belongs to your brother. You had your chance to play with her, k? Grow up.

Adam: Sally and I are bonded for life.

Victor: You sound like a damn teenager who just discovered the Twilight books. Victor Newman does not sparkle, k? Victoria is the only one who inherited my gift.

Adam: I’m not saying I turned her, you Nosferatu looking motherfucker. I’m saying I knocked her up and I still love her.

Victor: Howdoyouknowit’s true? This is the trollop who faked an illness out in LA to keep a man.

Adam: It’s my understanding that the man in question could lay some serious pipe and Sally’s plumbing had very special needs. Also? You might want to be nicer about your latest grandchild.

Victor: Your brother will be devastated when he finds out. What is wrong with you?

Adam: Gee, dad, it’s like you don’t know shit about anything. Nick knows. That’s why he acts like a gorilla when I’m around. He’s a slow loser, just like his microscopic sack splats, as he likes to call them.

Victor: Get a job, hippie. Find some damn purpose.

Adam: My kids are my purpose. Isn’t that what you preach all the time? Suck on that lemon for a while, dad.

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Jack: Oh good. I found you, Christine. I’m here with my entitled shtick again, but am framing it as helping Diane find a defense lawyer.

Christine: I wish I could help. But I can’t so I shan’t.

Jack: Can I cash in on our years of friendship? I mean, it’s a bear finding a lawyer willing to defend someone who faked her own death for years.

Christine: I have to follow a little thing called the law, Jack. I’m bound by a code of ethics that no one else in Genoa City follows.

Jack: Please?

Christine: Good night. I wish you all the best.

Jack: (into phone) I have nowhere else to turn. I’m completely out of options. I have hit rock bottom trying to procure a lawyer for Diane. Seriously, it’s you or a public defender. I can’t butter you up any more than that, Michael. Please help us.

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Sally: I must explain what I was doing outside my room, unchaperoned and talking to Adam in a familiar fashion. I was gushing over a baby. Adam came into the same public space, but I was so absorbed in admiring Aria that I foolishly didn’t leave.

Nick: Me not like Adam talk talk.

Sally: And here I am just yapping away about someone’s insignificant baby while you stand there, marinating in manpain. I throw myself upon your tender mercies and vow to do better. Forget about all that stupid Aria stuff.

Nick: We can talk about Aria. When I want to. I’m still bent out of shape about Phyllis. Until you’ve stuck your dick in crazy, you just don’t understand how much it’s like pleasuring a light socket.

Sally: Poor Nick.

Nick: Summer’s mother in law was arrested at the service. I told supergirl to not hold back and dunk all over Kyle. I hope she feels a little better.

Sally: You always take care of me by showing up where I am all the time, calling me whenever a stray thought floats between your ears and giving your father steely looks when he insults me. Let me take care of you by not telling you to back the fuck off.

Nick: Hey, tomorrow’s a big day, right? We’ll find out if you’re having a little crapper or a little princess. My adherence to outdated gender roles is part of my charm.

Sally: About that. I’m going to act very apologetic when I tell you that I invited the baby’s biological father. Of course, as that man’s brother, you naturally have the highest priority. Don’t pout.

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Summer: I just want to make sure you forget about Jeremy Stark. Don’t be distracted by the criminal my mother brought to town to punish Diane. His weird marriage to my mother is quite meaningless in the grand scheme of things. He’s a red herring. A magenta mackerel. A cherry char. A burgundy bass.

Chance: We’re going to get to the bottom of everything. I know what my job is, by the way. I don’t need any help, especially stunts like you pulled at the memorial service, trying to trick Diane into a confession.

Summer: She was this close! A persimmon pickerel. A ruby remora. A tomato trout. A - 

Chance: Can I drive you home?

Kyle: You’ve done quite enough.

Chance: It’s good that you’re here. I think her record is stuck.

Kyle: I will not put up with this harassment! First you arrest my mother for something she didn’t do and now you’re filling my wife’s head with lies and conspiracies.

Summer: He’s not filling my head up with anything. You can check my air pressure when we get home.

Kyle: Why were you telling me my mom helped fake the moon landing then? Listen up, gumshoe. You’ve already made a huge boner by arresting my mother. Stay away from Summer. Stop harassing my family, or I’ll find a way to make you pay, Detective. This bouffant is classified as a lethal weapon in 19 states.

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Phyllis: Should I wash this blood off my face? Nah, I’ll just partially cover it by pulling up my hood. Good thing I didn’t get this man-sized white sheet bloody while wrapping up a body I presumably ventilated with scissors. Luck be a lunatic tonight! I’ve touched everything in the room, but I won’t touch the doorknob. Caw caw! I really feel like this velour gave me superhuman strength. Stark should have kept his on. Well, buddy, time for your long dirt nap. 

 

Edited April 17, 2023 by NinjaPenguins

[Sake614]

@Js Nana you’re gonna make me watch the show, aren’t you? (Sigh) okay fine, I’ll watch. But I’m blaming you if I tear my hair out! Lol!

[Gam2]

I know that Chance isn’t the sharpest pencil in the box but he did seem to be having trouble not laughing at Bouffant Boy. Watching Kyle threaten Chance was hilarious. He couldn’t threaten my cat. 

[pvandal]

I am utterly shocked Nick didn't pee all over Sally to mark his territory when he saw her with Adam. What a buffoon,

 

I'm sure there is a lawyer somewhere in he GC vicinity that is willing to take sweet sweet Abbott money to defend Diane. Please, Michael is their only hope? He's not Obi-Wan Kanobi.

 

Phyllis, you might need to call Kevin to help you with Stark's body dump. He was so helpful with Dr Tim so long ago. Will you use the same dumpster? Is it the same one you have sex on? Inquiring minds want to know.

[MsMalin]

1 hour ago, nasir jones said:

Did this sack of crap Dickolas really make a face when he found out Adam was going to Sally’s doctor’s appointment? Who does this dill hole think he is???!?

I know, right? I wanted to punch him in the nuts. And Sally isn't much better. She acted all apologetic about it.  And Adam is so cute how excited he is. I don't understand why Sally doesn't just dump Nick.

Edited April 17, 2023 by MsMalin

[MsMalin]

Nick and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

First thing in the morning he was in the coffee shop where he was told Sally was not welcome at the funeral
Next up was the funeral. That was exhausting
Then onto the office where he interrupts Victoria and Nate mid sex. He lights into Victoria. Also exhausting.
Next he finds Nate (I forget where) and lectures him. 
Back to the coffee shop to find Sally and Adam
Back to the GCAC to hear the stunning news that Sally invited the baby's daddy to tomorrow appointment. Nick is crushed because he wants to be the father.
Oh, has he seen his son Christian today for even 1 minute? I wonder how his day went.

[Waldo13]

I know I’m repeating myself but I have to say that Adam and Sally are so very very good together. Their interactions are natural like they are not even acting at all.  

Summer❄️Summer❄️Summer❄️, you should have trusted Crispy?  You should have believed her?  How many times did Crispy let you down?  How many times did she lie to you?  Now you’re lamenting that this time you should have trusted her.  Summer❄️ tells Chance not to waist his time looking for evidence against Stark. Summer❄️ I hate to tell you that is his job. 

Victor what is your malfunction. You are now on Banana Breath’s side for being with Sally?  I guess he didn’t know that the baby is Adam’s.  Victor berates Adam for wanting Sally who is involved with his brother but wasn’t the other day that Victor berated Banana Breath for doing the same thing?  

Now Crispy is having second thoughts on becoming Crispy. She’s giving Stark all the incentive he needs to wring her neck. Stark now wants to go with Crispy to keep tabs on her. Yeah right, his parole officer would just let him leave the country. He brakes parole but he assumes that nobody will even look for him. I guess he doesn’t realize that the US Marshalls have a special unit to track him down. In tracking him down, wouldn’t they also find Crispy?  Well I guess that doesn’t matter now does it.
 

Poor poor Stark. He didn’t learn his lesson until it was too late. 

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape

You don’t spit into the wind

You don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger

And you don’t mess around with Crispy Scissorhands. 

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

I am putting cash money on the table: Summer will be living at the Chancellor Estate within a month. That was definitely a chem test between her and Chance. Summer and Sharon competing for him could be hilarious. I could see crazypants Summer going all Fatal Attraction over the situation.

Hard to believe Jack can't find an attorney to defend Diane. Perhaps he's not offering enough money because there are sharks who will take any case if the $$$ is right.

Lol, Victor looking dumbfounded that both his sons have kept a gigantic, life-altering secret from him. Happy Monday, Victor! For once you're the one who's 100% clueless.

Kyle trying to get tough with Chance. Like Chance couldn't just arrest him and his bouffant for threatening a officer of law. And there'd be no point in going after Chance's job because he's had one foot out the door for a while now.

I did not have Phyllis stabbing Jeremy to death on my How Does Phyllis Get Away With It This Time? bingo card. The aftermath looked pretty gruesome. Who knew she had skills in close physical combat?

Edited April 18, 2023 by Joimiaroxeu

[MsMalin]

The following have all been able to hire defense attorneys:

Jody Arias

OJ Simpson

Boston Strangler

BTK killer

Jeffrey Dahmer
Casey Anthony
Not sure but Ted Bundy. Or did he represent himself?
Gwyneth Paltrow 😉
 

But billionaire Jack can't find a lawyer who will take on Diane.

[SweePea59]

I laughed so hard I laughed my ass off. First I had to laugh at how badass SyPh was so scared of Mr. Velour. That was so out of character for her. How are we to believe that? And all the while she looked like she hadn't washed in a week. She's hiding out in a motel room. When you're alone in a motel room there are basically two things to do - watch color tv or shower. Then, the next time we see her she is a bloody mess with blood on her face and hands and bloody scissors, yet Mr. Velour has now become Mr. Stark White Bed Sheet? WTF? Did elves come in and wrap him up for her? How are we to believe this? Even by soap standards this is ridiculous. So there was Dr. Tim, JT Helmstrom and now Jeremy Stark - three men she has wrapped up and dragged around. How is anyone expected to root for her ever? And then I came here and read NinjaPenguin's recap of the day. I don't know how I'm ever going to sit down again. I completely laughed my ass off!

[Waldo13]

47 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I did not have Phyllis stabbing Jeremy to death on my How Does Phyllis Get Away With It This Time? bingo card. The aftermath looked pretty gruesome. Who knew she had skills in close physical combat?

Crispy probably channeled her inner Rodan (caw caw) and Copperhead and went postal on Stark. 
 
I’m waiting for the monkeys with a keyboard to explain why Crispy is trying to get rid of the body instead of using a self defense explanation. Why wouldn’t Crispy blame everything on Stark and she had to go along with his plan because he threatened to kill her family.  Wouldn’t that allow her to be a heroin and reunite with her children. 

[NinjaPenguins]

I predicted last week that Phyllis would end up killing Jeremy, but I didn’t expect her to paint the hotel bathroom with his blood. Wonder if Victor is hungry? 

Did it make anyone else furious to listen to Nick pontificate about Victoria, like he didn’t just do the same fucking thing with Sally? He can see her making a big mistake, you guys! Wherever would these ladies be without noble Nick to safeguard their virtue? Why is this dude even going to Sally’s ultrasound, except to stick it to his brother. He’s so gross, just like his father.

[Stpauliegirl]

How does Phyllis think she will be able to pull a grown man to her car without anyone seeing her? A motel/hotel would have security cameras.  She’s also been living in that room for a couple days, so her prints would be all over the place. Her  pulling her sleeve down so her hand wouldn’t touch the door wouldn’t do much good. Can’t wait to see her get caught. 

[Gam2]

I’ve been thinking for some time now that it was beyond time for EB to retire. Watching him today with Adam convinced me that now is the right time. There’s nothing sadder than someone who stays beyond their appeal. There have been big stars who have decided to end their shows before they became stale. We appreciate your service, EB. Goodbye.

[WhitneyWhit]

First time Y&R poster. I haven’t watched the show in forever but decided to get back into it for the 50th and I’m so glad, I’ve not laughed this hard in a long time. 
 

First off, good god damn, did he explode when Crispy stabbed him? WTF with all that blood on her face. And how did she manage to not get any on that white sheet since her hands were also covered? And she doesn’t wanna wash her face or anything? I mean I know the GCPD aren’t the most astute but I don’t even think Chance could overlook a blood drenched Crispy carrying a body behind her. 
Speaking of Chance, he once again said he wanted to see if Diane had a reaction which, first off all he was staring at the back of her head for their service, but also, what would that prove? I would personally be in uncontrollable fits of laughter at a funeral for Phyllis Sumners. 
Nick and Victor’s looks toward each other when they saw Adam talking to Sally was so damn creepy. I know believing that women are actual self sufficient human beings isn’t a strong suit for either of them but Sally is a real life human and so is the human inside her, who like Sally, doesn’t belong to either of them. 

[SweePea59]

13 minutes ago, WhitneyWhit said:

First time Y&R poster.

Welcome! You're off to a great start.

 

14 minutes ago, WhitneyWhit said:

First off, good god damn, did he explode when Crispy stabbed him?

Apparently just like a blood filled pinata!

[MsMalin]

27 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

I’ve been thinking for some time now that it was beyond time for EB to retire. Watching him today with Adam convinced me that now is the right time. There’s nothing sadder than someone who stays beyond their appeal. There have been big stars who have decided to end their shows before they became stale. We appreciate your service, EB. Goodbye.

I do agree with you but how on earth would the show handle it? It won't be an Irish goodbye like they gave Doug Davidson. Would they kill him off or just reduce his role.slowly? With the fan base I don't know what they could do. Like with Catherine Chancellor. They waited for her to die in real life and had her die on the show and everyone was kind of expecting it.

[Snaporaz]

I have a new pair of scissors just like those, and I can barely cut through the tape on my Amazon packages with them.

Summer has been stuck on stupid since 2013.  I can't believe she wanted to re-enact her mother's death!  I mean, if Phyllis had actually been killed, I would watch that on a loop.  Please don't saddle Chance with Summer's dumb ass.  

I'm still trying to figure out why Jeremy and Phyllis needed Diane's ring?  What was the significance of that?  

[boes]

Whew!  I hope Phyllis doesn't expect to get her room deposit back after all that.  That sheet is beyond even Oxyi-Clean's power.

15 hours ago, WhitneyWhit said:

First off, good god damn, did he explode when Crispy stabbed him? WTF with all that blood on her face. 

That must have been a most unusual struggle.  The only blood I saw on the sheet seemed to be on his upper thigh, while, like you say, Phyllis had blood on her face.  So, I guess she stabbed him to death in the ass while she was suspended upside down from the ceiling??  

Works for me.  Oh, also, velour really doesn't show blood splatter at all, does it?  Something to keep in mind.....

And welcome, WhitneyWhit!

14 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

Summer has been stuck on stupid since 2013.  I can't believe she wanted to re-enact her mother's death!  I mean, if Phyllis had actually been killed, I would watch that on a loop.  Please don't saddle Chance with Summer's dumb ass.  

I'm still trying to figure out why Jeremy and Phyllis needed Diane's ring?  What was the significance of that?  

I'm only grateful that at least Dummer is not being portrayed by Hunter King because she couldn't handle this storyline at all.  She be reduced to quacking hysterically through those duck lips while waddling around dropping little duck pellets.  

I hope Chance and Dummer don't get involved.  He's already been through the wringer with one entitled twit and he doesn't deserve another.  But Show isn't exactly giving him many options.  If it's not Dummer then it's going to be Sharon who's not only physically confined to Crimson Lights but also currently has immobile facial features.  

Also, I think Chance's investigation would move along more quickly and be much more interesting if Show had him do it all in just a speedo.  Does the legacy of Paulie Tightpockets mean NOTHING to TIIC?!?

16 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Did it make anyone else furious to listen to Nick pontificate about Victoria, like he didn’t just do the same fucking thing with Sally? He can see her making a big mistake, you guys! Wherever would these ladies be without noble Nick to safeguard their virtue? Why is this dude even going to Sally’s ultrasound, except to stick it to his brother. He’s so gross, just like his father.

It was embarrassing to watch Sally coddle and kiss his baboon butt hurt feelings today because she dared to express herself without getting clearance from him and then dared to invite Adam to the ultrasound of THEIR child.  As little as I care for Victoria, it was bad enough to have to listen to him chide her for doing exactly what he's done multiple times and is still doing.  Eventually, I assume, it'll be one dingleberry too many for Sally but even then, it's going to take months for her to find her self-respect again.  And since Show can't refrain from giving us all the finger, you just know Adam and Sally will ask him to be the kid's godfather.  

Times sure do change.  When I was a kid, you had to be the same religion to be a godparent.  Now, if they have Nick, it seems you don't even have to be of the same species.  

As for EB's future with Show, I have it on good authority that he has an ironclad clause in his contract that forbids him from being either buried alive or approached within 10 feet with a sharpened stake or a bucket of water.  He'll be there until the flying monkeys take him homeward bound.

I kid.  I think it's past time for Victor to not be carrying storyline anymore, but I hope Show would keep him around as a family elder, respected and revered by some, disliked by others, much like Katherine was, as I wish John Abbott had been.  As much as I don't like Victor, EB has made him an important character and I'd hate to see him disrespected the way Anna Lee was on General Hospital.

Edited April 18, 2023 by boes

[SweePea59]

6 hours ago, boes said:

as I wish John Abbott had been

Maybe the show's biggest mistake ever. And maybe in part why we are stuck with TGVN being so front and center. You're right, he should be a revered etc. elder, not the emperor wearing new clothes and being laughed at that he is.

Okay, so does anybody wanna bet that another shocking twist is coming and Stark's not really dead? He just happened to stop at the Halloween shop on his way back to the motel and picked up some fake blood capsules to surprise his wife?

[NinjaPenguins]

Summer can follow in her dad’s footsteps and don a Jeremy Stark mask to terrorize Diane with. Chance will be unable to figure it out.

You know, though, maybe Phyllis will get a taste for the hack and slash lifestyle and go on a scissors spree. About to pounce on Nate, she is confronted by the paradox of his side part and vows to use scissors only for righting coiffure catastrophes. She becomes the most sought after stylist in Genoa City. Just don’t  criticize the cut too much.

[blackwing]

I've been meaning to ask this, I missed the episodes when Diane came back from the dead.  How exactly did they explain how she faked her death?  I mean, we saw Maura West Diane's actual dead body in that park.  Was it someone else's body with plastic surgery to look like Diane?  I know it's a soap opera, but "back from the dead" is more easily accepted when viewers never actually saw the body.  And her body was clearly dead.

[Rye]

16 hours ago, MsMalin said:

I do agree with you but how on earth would the show handle it? It won't be an Irish goodbye like they gave Doug Davidson. Would they kill him off or just reduce his role.slowly? With the fan base I don't know what they could do. Like with Catherine Chancellor. They waited for her to die in real life and had her die on the show and everyone was kind of expecting it.

I feel like they’d go the Original Recipe Sally Spectra route and have him just perpetually off traveling (though possibly not with Fabio).

The actress playing Summer is easily the most annoying part of this ridiculous SL. Her choices, the toddler pouting stinkface every time Kyle mentions his mother…. She’s managing to make a situation where the audience should be extremely sympathetic to her character make them loathe her. Actually, writing this, she’s acting exactly like SyPh. So, maybe she is doing a good job. 

Edited April 18, 2023 by Rye

[PatsyandEddie]

17 minutes ago, blackwing said:

I've been meaning to ask this, I missed the episodes when Diane came back from the dead.  How exactly did they explain how she faked her death?  I mean, we saw Maura West Diane's actual dead body in that park.  Was it someone else's body with plastic surgery to look like Diane?  I know it's a soap opera, but "back from the dead" is more easily accepted when viewers never actually saw the body.  And her body was clearly dead.

IIRC she said it was a body from the morgue. Deacon Sharpe was her buddy in crime. 

[Gam2]

I can’t wait to see the look on Nikki’s face when Phyllis shows up undead. Nikki is a snotty, condescending shrew. She’s the very last person to stand in judgment of anyone!

[Gam2]

Is Sharon Case on Zanax?! She can barely speak or remember her lines. It makes me very uncomfortable watching her.

Well, Nikki isn’t the only one who will get her payback when Phyllis shows up undead. Someone needs to slap the crap out of that snot, Summer. How hateful!

[Julyolo]

Why  does CBS keep offloading hams like Mel Rocca (Sunday Morning) and Natalie Morales (The Talk) onto Y & R? I know he played "an obsessed with Nikki"  storyline before, but IMO this has the stench of borderline vaudeville, or farce. These cameo appearances are absurd in light of neither possessing any talent for acting, or even playing their characters as "camp."  Somebody in wardrobe forgot to iron Ally and Kyle's outfits today, putting new wrinkles in to their performances. Kyle had his big boy tie so askew with that tie bar, it looked like he needed his daddy to fix it for him. Summer must live in the Metaverse. Everybody loved Phyllis? Her jail house monologue previewing Diane's future was a bit of a fail, considering her mother really is the psychotic delusional homicidal maniac. Must be lots of happy squirrels in GC. The nuts sure don't fall too far from the trees.

[Julyolo]

19 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I am putting cash money on the table: Summer will be living at the Chancellor Estate within a month. That was definitely a chem test between her and Chance. Summer and Sharon competing for him could be hilarious. I could see crazypants Summer going all Fatal Attraction over the situation.

Hard to believe Jack can't find an attorney to defend Diane. Perhaps he's not offering enough money because there are sharks who will take any case if the $$$ is right.

Lol, Victor looking dumbfounded that both his sons have kept a gigantic, life-altering secret from him. Happy Monday, Victor! For once you're the one who's 100% clueless.

Kyle trying to get tough with Chance. Like Chance couldn't just arrest him and his bouffant for threatening a officer of law. And there'd be no point in going after Chance's job because he's had one foot out the door for a while now.

I did not have Phyllis stabbing Jeremy to death on my How Does Phyllis Get Away With It This Time? bingo card. The aftermath looked pretty gruesome. Who knew she had skills in close physical combat?

You knew Phyliis is a hacker, right? LOL.

[lightninggirl]

41 minutes ago, Julyolo said:

Why  does CBS keep offloading hams like Mel Rocca (Sunday Morning) and Natalie Morales (The Talk) onto Y & R? 

I love Mo Rocca and I think Milton is adorable. Maybe he'll get super creepy and kidnap Nikki or something - anything - in order to throw in an interesting storyline around GC.

I have an irrational hatred Natalie Morales and she can retire permanently and off my screen forever. I hate when she narrates Dateline - 'AND I'M NATALIE MORALES.' Bish, dial it back about 7 notches, wouldya? Jesus christ.

[MsMalin]

Really annoyed that yesterdays show ended with Phyllis dragging out Stark wrapped in the shower curtain with blood all over her face and today there was no follow up! They could've used Noah and Allees screen time to show Phyllis getting a hernia by lifting the body into the car trunk.

[blackwing]

1 hour ago, PatsyandEddie said:

IIRC she said it was a body from the morgue. Deacon Sharpe was her buddy in crime. 

Did they explain how the dead body had Diane's face?  Was it a mask or plastic surgery?  Or did they just ignore it?  

[PatsyandEddie]

I think, but could be wrong, that her face was ruined by the beating. Nikki had hit her with a rock and Deacon made it worse. The body was dressed like Diane and had blonde hair. Seems to have been enough. 
Everyone seems to have been violent towards Diane that night. It was a brutal s/l really. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Heads up, y'all in the western time zones. CBS is again preempting Y&R and B&B to broadcast European league football games. The preemption will happen today and tomorrow (Tuesday, April 18 and Wednesday, April 19).  The episodes will likely be online at CBS.com/Paramount+ this afternoon.

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You knew Phyliis is a hacker, right? LOL.

Good one, tee hee.

In related news, it's possible Jeremy might not be actually dead, or he has a twin brother who'll show up later. Apparently James Hyde has been lowkey campaigning on social media to stay and MS is kinda supporting it.

(I'd link to the article I read about JH/Stark but it's on the soap site which seems to have taken a "damning with faint praise" stance on Mariah and Aria and Tessa. So they can stay the FOH.}

[SweePea59]

3 hours ago, Rye said:

The actress playing Summer is easily the most annoying part of this ridiculous SL. Her choices, the toddler pouting stinkface every time Kyle mentions his mother…. 

Don't you mean every time Babe the pig says, "oink oink oink, my mom!"

[Chatty Cake]

 

17 hours ago, boes said:

Whew!  I hope Phyllis doesn't expect to get her room deposit back after all that.  That sheet is beyond even Oxyi-Clean's power.

That must have been a most unusual struggle.  The only blood I saw on the sheet seemed to be on his upper thigh, while, like you say, Phyllis had blood on her face.  So, I guess she stabbed him to death in the ass while she was suspended upside down from the ceiling??  

Works for me.  Oh, also, velour really doesn't show blood splatter at all, does it?  Something to keep in mind.....

And welcome, WhitneyWhit!

I'm only grateful that at least Dummer is not being portrayed by Hunter King because she couldn't handle this storyline at all.  She be reduced to quacking hysterically through those duck lips while waddling around dropping little duck pellets.  

 

I’m also glad not to see Hunter Kings cabbage patch face squinting and spewing venom at Diane. I couldn’t stand her. 
This Summer, I can’t say I like but she’s got an edge without being an obnoxious duck lipped asshole. I think she should turn in her bouffant miles and upgrade to Chance. Listening to Sharon drone on in her now regular monotone is nap inducing. And I couldn’t help but notice the poor woman has the smoothest unlined frozen face with a 50 year olds neck. There is nothing wrong with that, I am over 50 but just own it instead of going overboard with the fillers. 
At least if Summer cheats with Chance and then leaves Kyle for him, it will create some conflict. 

Edited April 18, 2023 by Chatty Cake

[blackwing]

1 hour ago, PatsyandEddie said:

I think, but could be wrong, that her face was ruined by the beating. Nikki had hit her with a rock and Deacon made it worse. The body was dressed like Diane and had blonde hair. Seems to have been enough. 
Everyone seems to have been violent towards Diane that night. It was a brutal s/l really. 

Ah, for some reason I thought she had been shot.  And I recall that we very clearly saw her face, she was lying face up in a pool of water.

Here's a screenshot I found... her face is very clearly visible, and it's clearly Maura West Diane.  Doesn't seem "battered beyond recognition".  So I guess her return from the dead just has to be one of those hand-waved things.

Why hasn't she gotten charged with faking her death, obstruction of justice, child abandonment, etc.  Just as how Phyllis should get charged with obstruction of justice when her plot to frame Diane for her fake death is revealed.

 

[PatsyandEddie]

Thanks for the screenshot. I forgot it was Murphy who had found her. 
Yeah, definitely hand waving going on. 

[WhitneyWhit]

3 hours ago, MsMalin said:

Really annoyed that yesterdays show ended with Phyllis dragging out Stark wrapped in the shower curtain with blood all over her face and today there was no follow up! They could've used Noah and Allees screen time to show Phyllis getting a hernia by lifting the body into the car trunk.

I was also upset because I had the scenario in my head if how this should play out 

 

The location: the GCAC 

Crispy  busts in, blood covered and dragging Stark behind her. She sees Summer falling down over and over in attempt to recreate the crime scene 

Crispy: Summer! 
Summer: Oh my god! Mom. I’m so happy! 
Crispy: I know…

Summer: Do you know what this means? 
Crispy: Yes it…

Summer: you can tell everyone Diane killed you?

Crispy: What? No I’m…

Summer: Here! I know. That’s great. I was worried Diane would get away with it because Chance couldn’t see her face at the funeral and no other face raised suspicion that day. I have to call Chance. 
Chance: Detective Chancelor here. 
Summer: Chance. I’m at your office. My mom is here and she’s willing to tell everyone that Diane murdered her. 
Chance. I’m on my way. This is the break we need because I couldn’t see Diane’s face and no one else’s face stood out that day.

Chance: Phyllis, I’m glad you’re here. I’ll take your statement. 
Crispy: No I’m not…I killed Stark. Look

Stark: 💀

Chance: Don’t worry. I’ll handle him. Get out of here Stark. I have to take Phylis’ statement about Diane murdering her. 
Stark: 💀

Edited April 18, 2023 by WhitneyWhit

[NinjaPenguins]

Whitney, you have captured the breadth and depth of Summer’s, nay, this entire show’s stupidity with eloquence and flair. The skull emoji was quite appropriate, as I was dead upon seeing it.

Unfortunately, I can’t tell my co-workers that I was slain by a soap forum assassin during my dinner break and must go home now. 😔

[Desperado]

I’ve been taking a break away from the “faking death” storyline, but still reading your great comments. 

Following @Js Nana being kind enough to let us know about a twist without spoiling us too early, I wanted to watch the ep in question. I’m Canadian, so I usually watch the day ahead episodes on demand on the correct CBS day, but I got confused (it really doesn’t take much nowadays) and watched the ep ending in Summer being super nasty to Diane in jail, instead of the good one. (I had enjoyed the actress’ work but her character has turned into the spoiled brat for hell - yuck!)

I then came back here, spoiled myself (no, I’m not drunk, why do you ask?), then ffwd the previous ep to finally see what was what.

The whole experience was pretty painful, but because of your continuous great commenting and the recent events on screen, I may go back to watching semi-daily.

Shallow comment: I know many of you hate MD’s hair (I do too) but I’m mostly annoyed by Cricket’s. It’s a throwback from the past and does not suit her in any way. They finally gave Nikki a great cut & colour but now there’s a new head of hair to suffer through… Sigh…

[Js Nana]

22 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

because he threatened to kill her family

My guess is that she'll take on a new identity long enough for Diane to be convicted and spend at least 6 months in prison, only to reappear with a story about how JS had drugged her and maintained control over her by telling her that he would have her family killed if she tried to escape, but that JS had simply disappeared one day, so she felt safe enough to return to the bosom of her loving family - - or some scenario to that effect.

[lgprimes]

The story on this show is dumb enough that I am distracted by random thoughts, such as:

 Did Kyle get dressed in the dark? That tie with that shirt? I’m no fashion police but ow, my eyes.

 Rey didn’t talk about work because he could solve crimes without help from the town gossip.

 Thank God Mariah and Tessa won the finals of the Happily Ever After tournament because Michael is going to be the next one sleeping at the GCAC. Does his marriage mean that little to him?

I didn’t miss Allie and Noah at all and may need to nickname them Ambien and Nyquil, because they make me drowsy.

 I didn’t realize that Nikki’s strange employee was a CBS newscaster and thought it was some rando who must have won a walk-on for a charity auction. Sad that I didn’t even really mind the waste of time since the rest of the show wasn’t captivating either.

 Time to bring back some professional writers!

[MsMalin]

2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I am also glad not to see Hunter Kings cabbage patch face squinting and spewing venom at Diane. I couldn’t stand her. 

I have a very high pain tolerance but I just couldn't take Hunter King. Couldn't stomach her.  For that reason I will not criticize the current actress playing Summer.

[Gam2]

1 minute ago, MsMalin said:

I have a very high pain tolerance but I just couldn't take Hunter King. Couldn't stomach her.  For that reason I will not criticize the current actress playing Summer.

Nah, I cannot stand either one of them. This one acts like a 4 year old. She makes me want to punch her in the face.

[MsMalin]

2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

couldn’t help but notice the poor woman has the smoothest unlined frozen face with a 50 year olds neck

yes! I was really surprised to see that today and thought it might be weird lighting or something.  She really has ruined her face. I wish these people would just age naturally.

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Kudos to Blackwing for digging up that picture!!!!

Edited April 18, 2023 by MsMalin

[Gam2]

2 minutes ago, MsMalin said:

yes! I was really surprised to see that today and thought it might be weird lighting or something.  She really has ruined her face. I wish these people would just age naturally.

I do agree with this but she’s also on some kind of mind altering drug. This is not normal behavior even for Sharon Case. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

So Diane doesn't have to wear jailbird orange? Heh, this reminds me of when Erica Kane went to prison and she wore a tailored jumpsuit and beige pumps.

Nikki said Michael Baldwin is the best attorney in GC. Well, perhaps he's the best criminal attorney--emphasis on criminal. Shut up, Nikki.

Noah and Allie were in London. Guess she doesn't work anymore, and is living the globetrotting life of a rich man's granddaughter who has a trust fund baby boyfriend.

Holey moley, Summer is begging to be slapped. I'm not advocating domestic violence but AFAIC Kyle needs to swing at that nasty little bish. She's not fueled by grief, it's pure hatefulness spewing from her pouty mouth.

Victor acts like Michael is his indentured servant. Um, Vic? The 13th Amendment; look into it.

Summer didn't even speak to Sharon at the coffeehouse. Rude much, StuporGirl?

Nikki's wannabe crush Milton resembled Michael E. Knight. Wonder that silver fox is up to these days?

Noah, if your precious baby sis is so bent out of shape her husband can't deal with her, maybe she's the one who needs to check herself. Sigh, all these self-entitled Newmans give me agita.

Lol, I don't know how Chance didn't melt into a puddle on the floor from the way Sharon was throwing her body heat at him. The cougar thirst is real.

I will never understand how in GC you can go to the jail and force a prisoner to sit and listen to you berate them. They do that on B&B too. It's like a modern version of medieval stocks and pillory. Is that a thing IRL?

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Ambien and Nyquil

Hilarious! I wonder if the mixture has a cool slang name like "sizzurp"? (Meanwhile, I shudder to think what watch list I'm now on since I've googled "ambien and nyquil." It appears to be a popular search, OMG.)

Edited April 18, 2023 by Joimiaroxeu

[Waldo13]

 

Summer❄️, please tell me how Crispy became lucid enough to say poison when she couldn’t have known she was poisoned. In Summer’s❄️ mind nobody should be defending Diane.  

Chance all the evidence you laid out is completely circumstantial.  Yes there was poison in the toxicology report and what evidence was there that Diane purchased the poison conveniently found in Crispy’s room that was not sealed off where Stark or the maid could enter.  After Diane threatened Crispy, they all left the room so how did Diane get back to give Crispy the poison. There is a long history of animosity but Crispy was hell bent of doing whatever she could to drive Diane out of GC to the point of bringing Start to town.  I’m not Perry Mason by a long shot, but even I could defend Diane in court.  I had to laugh when Chance said that there are a lot of people who have disrespect for the legal system. Chance that includes you since you gave Victor a pass on obstruction of justice and not busting Stark on parole violations.  

Nikki, you arrogant elitist, how many times did Michael defend you, when you were actually guilty.  The way Nikki and Victor where acting, if it was me, I would tell Victor to stick Nikki’s nose up his ass and quit.  

Yes, Summer❄️ everyone is capable of murder and attempted murder including your mother.  Go ahead Summer❄️ testify that you heard Diane threaten her mother but did you see Diane give her the poison.  

Maybe just maybe Chance is actually earning his pay with giving credence to Stark’s involvement in Crispy’s death. Now we have plausible explanation to what happened with evidence pointing towards Stark. Too bad Stark is dead or is he??  

I’m so glad Allie is a voice of reason. It’s her scientific mind that causes her to be analytical to why Diane wouldn’t kill Crispy. 

What is the purpose of Milton?  The fact he’s presented as a nerdy accountant piss me off. I was an accountant and a CFO and I’m not a nerd.  Most accountants are arrogant SOB’s. 

Noah, fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Another closed minded person with exonerating Crispy as the trigger.  You’re a fucking idiot like your father.  

I can’t wait for Summer❄️ to eat crow raw without the benefit of Fava Beans and Chianti to wash it down. 

Now that Michael is Diane’s attorney, Christian will have to hand over all the incriminating evidence that Chance found but yet Michael didn’t mention what the evidence was. I guess poking holes, in that evidence, will be on a later episode hopefully. 

[SiouxB]

52 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

 

Nikki's wannabe crush Milton resembled Michael E. Knight. Wonder that silver fox is up to these days?

 

He’s over on GH playing a lawyer named Martin Gray who is the sister of Laura Spencer and he’s dating Lynn Herring’s Lucy....Sadly he has not been on lately and actually is very rarely on ....but when he’s on, he’s fabulous and yes he is still a Silver Fox 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉