S12.E11: Snake Bye

[For Cereals]

Everything that can be said about Snake-gate and beastiality-gate has been said, but that last segment...Why couldn’t Kenya and Cynthia just go to Tanya directly and tell her?  Why bring it up with the whole group?  That just made Tanya look bad/naive.  Plus, it’s on film with audio and recorded.  I think Kenya only brought it up because she was jealous of Tanya’s relationship.  Even if Paul is a dog, he at least acts like he’s in love with Tanya, which Kenya doesn’t have.

[luckyroll3]

14 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Where is home?  I went to Trini carnival last year but we couldn't afford to play mas.  $1,200 for a costume??  I need me a carnival loan for 2021!

Home is the Virgin Islands and Anguilla.  Both BVI and Anguilla do carnival in August; trying to decide which one to attend.  

8 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

Ayyy!! Perfect!! I got time to tame this disrespectful ass cellulite.  

Anything except Spirit Airlines, they’ll charge extra for our crisis-hair 😁

 

Ayeeee!

I have to say I was impressed with Tanya's dancing.  I didn't think she had all that.  

14 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

On topic:  We've been in Toronto for how many episodes getting ready for Caribana and all they give us in 3 minutes of the road?  I was annoyed.

Same.  That was the best part.  I always rather see the ladies having fun and enjoying themselves.  Don't get me wrong, I enjoy [some] of the drama, just not 2 hrs and 40 minutes of it.  

[qtpye]

22 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

How the hell does this bitch have the nerve to walk in with that bad blonde wig talking about all you bitches are fake AFTER LYING on camera to their faces that she wasn't the rat? IT was on camera that you were in fact the rat ... how the fuck did she think she was gonna play that off? Like oops my bad I forgot that it really was me?? She was trying to hard from the moment she first popped up on this show.... Bye snake

Bitch, you knew the only reason you were there was to be exposed as the snake. Bravo did  not pay for your ticket and room so we all could see you cheap ass dress that squashed your boobs to pancakes and made your probably slim legs look like tree trunks. Next time go up about two dress sizes, Ma.

21 hours ago, Vanderboom said:

This is why I just can't quit them.

I saw WWHL, too. Even Tanya's tea is boring. I wonder what she's doing on this show. She seems so . . . functional. Everybody knows that Real Housewives don't travel well; that's why there's one or more trips per season. It was like watching Camp Counselor Female Carlton Banks* organizing a trip for Bebe's Kids.

 

*Kenya's impression of her was stupid and pointless. Did any of the other ladies even laugh? Kenya should stop trying to do impressions. 

Shit, ain't that the truth. Tanya is so put together and happy that you know this can't be crew. Your Bebe's kids/Carlton Banks analogy was spot on.

10 hours ago, For Cereals said:

Everything that can be said about Snake-gate and beastiality-gate has been said, but that last segment...Why couldn’t Kenya and Cynthia just go to Tanya directly and tell her?  Why bring it up with the whole group?  That just made Tanya look bad/naive.  Plus, it’s on film with audio and recorded.  I think Kenya only brought it up because she was jealous of Tanya’s relationship.  Even if Paul is a dog, he at least acts like he’s in love with Tanya, which Kenya doesn’t have.

 

1 hour ago, luckyroll3 said:

Home is the Virgin Islands and Anguilla.  Both BVI and Anguilla do carnival in August; trying to decide which one to attend.  

Ayeeee!

I have to say I was impressed with Tanya's dancing.  I didn't think she had all that.  

Same.  That was the best part.  I always rather see the ladies having fun and enjoying themselves.  Don't get me wrong, I enjoy [some] of the drama, just not 2 hrs and 40 minutes of it.  

I gotta say...Tanya sure as does not dance like Carlton. I think Kenya is jealous of hell of Tanya because Tanya is kind of what Kenya tries to be like in her fake beauty pageant persona.

[Vanderboom]

Not a Marlo fan at all, but it was definitely her night to be hilarious! 

 

[luckyroll3]

20 minutes ago, Vanderboom said:

Not a Marlo fan at all, but it was definitely her night to be hilarious! 

 

That's tame compared to the upscale boutique set up she usually has going on in her hotel room, unless that was in another area.  More power to her; I don't even bother to unpack when I travel, much less try to make my accommodations feel homey.  I barely remember to pack pajamas so picture frames surely aren't making the list.  

[ZaldamoWilder]

@luckyroll3 @Brooklynista

No Jouvert payday loans necessary.  We can get our costumes from the same place as crisis wigs.  #girlstrip2020.   What up with it?   Ya'll think I'm bullshittin, I'm really not, August is perfect for me, I'm grown! 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000521233599.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7f2d5e69InCmWD&algo_pvid=fa447a12-8b26-4442-ac35-f1749224e98f&algo_expid=fa447a12-8b26-4442-ac35-f1749224e98f-30&btsid=0e4a9b56-4128-4dff-9edf-42137e144a88&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_53

[Rlb8031]

1 hour ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

@luckyroll3 @Brooklynista

No Jouvert payday loans necessary.  We can get our costumes from the same place as crisis wigs.  #girlstrip2020.   What up with it?   Ya'll think I'm bullshittin, I'm really not, August is perfect for me, I'm grown! 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000521233599.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7f2d5e69InCmWD&algo_pvid=fa447a12-8b26-4442-ac35-f1749224e98f&algo_expid=fa447a12-8b26-4442-ac35-f1749224e98f-30&btsid=0e4a9b56-4128-4dff-9edf-42137e144a88&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_53

Awwww sookie, sookie now!

I may need to dust off the passport and the roller bag.

[ErikaAlyson]

Wow this episode was jam packed like a Real housewives of New Jersey show lol. It was so funny to me. I hate that Cynthia looked and seemed hurt from the situation though. I’m not sure why Marlo felt she had to say anything sassy to Cynthia but okay. Kandi’s facial expressions were so funny lol Kenya seemed really annoyed through out the entire thing. NeNe looked really drunk to me lol. I’ve never seen Porsha so passionate about one of the group’s dramas like this before lol 

[howiveaddict]

21 hours ago, For Cereals said:

Everything that can be said about Snake-gate and beastiality-gate has been said, but that last segment...Why couldn’t Kenya and Cynthia just go to Tanya directly and tell her?  Why bring it up with the whole group?  That just made Tanya look bad/naive.  Plus, it’s on film with audio and recorded.  I think Kenya only brought it up because she was jealous of Tanya’s relationship.  Even if Paul is a dog, he at least acts like he’s in love with Tanya, which Kenya doesn’t have.

Because Kenya is messy as hell. And loves to start shit.

10 hours ago, qtpye said:

 

Shit, ain't that the truth. Tanya is so put together and happy that you know this can't be crew. Your Bebe's kids/Carlton Banks analogy was spot on.

 

I gotta say...Tanya sure as does not dance like Carlton. I think Kenya is jealous of hell of Tanya because Tanya is kind of what Kenya tries to be like in her fake beauty pageant persona.

Yes,  Kenya is jealous of Tanya.   Tanya is a successful business person who doesn't have to pull stunts  (like at Marlo's wig party) to get attention for her company.  Kenya had to imitate Tanya twice on the bus.  Now's she starting trouble between Tanya and her man, even if the cheating rumor is true.  

[GonnahearmeRoar]

I use to be a fan of Nene’s but now I have such disdain for her. She is a very jealous and vindictive loser that thinks she is important. She has put those hands on Kim, Portia and cameramen. Her preachy I am on a new path is bullshit. She is going to hurt someone. Not to mention criticizing my favorite Andy Cohen for mentioning she wore the same dress twice. Hope the ladies band together and film without her. Her behavior is too erratic and she doesn’t take criticism without bringing on the beat down. 

Housewife status:

Nene doesn’t want Greg

Portia got a womanizer

Kenya's man doesn’t want her

Tanya’s is a secret womanizer

Marlo uses men 

Cynthia and Candi are good 

These shows are less and less about being a housewife. This group of women are the most dysfunctional “friends” yet the most watched. I can stand the drama but not repeated physical violence. Portia learned her lesson. 

Edited January 15, 2020 by GonnahearmeRoar

[link417]

10 hours ago, GonnahearmeRoar said:

These shows are less and less about being a housewife. 

To be fair, the shows were never really about being housewives, not in the traditional sense: There have been single women from the beginning, and even most of the wives had jobs.

LOL, I completely forgot about Nene’s “new path” nonsense. I guess she did, too, what with getting physical and pulling that grade-school tit-for-tat bullshit with Cynthia.

[Hiyo]

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There have been single women from the beginning

That's true for just about every version of the franchise, I believe.

[Baltimore Betty]

13 hours ago, GonnahearmeRoar said:

Nene doesn’t want Greg

Nope, she does...who else will walk behind her and carry her bag at events, who will play butler when she entertains at home? LOL!

[Sheenieb]

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Yes,  Kenya is jealous of Tanya.   Tanya is a successful business person who doesn't have to pull stunts  (like at Marlo's wig party) to get attention for her company.  Kenya had to imitate Tanya twice on the bus.  Now's she starting trouble between Tanya and her man, even if the cheating rumor is true.  

I've never liked Kenya, but it was a peripheral dislike. She was annoying, but there. This season, however, she is vile. The epitome of "misery loves company." 

As soon as Tanya said, "my relationship is perfect," that was Kenya's cue to pounce. Just because Paul actually likes Tanya and Marc treats Kenya like a mosquito he has to swat whenever he's in town. 

And if you're going to be messy, Kenya, at least be smooth about it. Her transitions were sloppy AF. "Me and Kandi are wives, Porsha and Dennis call each other husband and wife, and Cynthia was a wife, and will be one again, so, if your man was cheating on you, would you want to know?" WTF does calling out the other ladies' relationship status have to do with anything? 

Then there's, "I asked Marc 'why do men cheat?' and he said, 'once a cheater, always a cheater.'" That's not answering the question. I really can't stand her. As ridiculous as Nene is, I'd take her any day of Kenya.

Cookie lady must be angling for a peach as well. 

I will never understand calling each other "husband and wife" but you're not married. Same for long-ass engagements. If you're living together and splitting bills, just go to City Hall and make it official. Why buy a ring and propose only to be in engagement limbo? It just seems like some commitment-phobic nonsense to me. We can play house, but if things don't work out, I don't have to deal with legal ramifications. Either you're all in or you're not. But that's just me. I don't like half measures. 

I hope that this is the last of this snake business. I didn't care when it was brought up and I still don't care. 

 

Edited January 15, 2020 by Sheenieb

[dosodog]

Speaking for just myself......

Marriage does not necessarily equal commitment.  I spent 20 years, unmarried, with Stupendous Man.  I've never once thought of that as a "half measure".

We went through good times and bad times, poorer and poor, sickness and in health.  We never strayed from each other.  Ever.  

And the reason we never got married was because it wasn't important to us to insure we were committed to each other by making it "legal".  We just were.

I didn't call him "my husband".  He didn't call me "his wife".  However, other people did, because I think overall, society likes categories.  

I'm not knocking marriage--it is very important to the vast majority of the population. It just didn't matter to us.

It just mattered that we were together.

 

 

[Sheenieb]

10 hours ago, dosodog said:

Speaking for just myself......

Marriage does not necessarily equal commitment.  I spent 20 years, unmarried, with Stupendous Man.  I've never once thought of that as a "half measure".

We went through good times and bad times, poorer and poor, sickness and in health.  We never strayed from each other.  Ever.  

And the reason we never got married was because it wasn't important to us to insure we were committed to each other by making it "legal".  We just were.

I didn't call him "my husband".  He didn't call me "his wife".  However, other people did, because I think overall, society likes categories.  

I'm not knocking marriage--it is very important to the vast majority of the population. It just didn't matter to us.

It just mattered that we were together.

 

I'm glad it all worked out. Truly. And I meant no disrespect to anyone's union. You and your partner were on the same page about relationship expectations, and that's how it should be. 

To bring it back to the show, I'm talking specifically about Tanya and Paul. I didn't even know they were engaged. Was it mentioned last season? But considering how evasive she was when Kandi? asked when they planned on marrying, I'm assuming they've been engaged for a while. That's when I made my comment about making it official if you're already living together and splitting bills. If you have no intention to get married, then why ask/accept in the first place? Just be upfront and say, "we don't want to get married, things are fine exactly how they are." Don't bother getting engaged. 

If that were an option that was presented to me, "things are good, let's just leave it alone." I'd walk because we'd be at an impasse, and that's not what I want. But as long as Tanya and Paul are OK with their relationship status, then fine. If they like it, I love it. 

Edited January 17, 2020 by Sheenieb

[LibertarianSlut]

1 hour ago, Sheenieb said:

I'm talking specifically about Tanya and Paul. I didn't even know they were engaged. Was it mentioned last season? But considering how evasive she was when Kandi? asked when they planned on marrying, I'm assuming they've been engaged for a while. That's when I made my comment about making if official if you're already living together and splitting bills. If you have no intention to get married, then why ask/accept in the first place? Just be upfront and say, "we don't want to get married, things are fine exactly how they are." Don't bother getting engaged. 

If that were an option that was presented to me, "things are good, let's just leave it alone." I'd walk because we'd be at an impasse, and that's not what I want. But as long as Tanya and Paul are OK with their relationship status, then fine. If they like it, I love it. 

To the bolded:  Yes, last year it was mentioned that Tanya and Paul had been engaged for a long time, like years, and there was no wedding in sight.  That was what caused the whole dust-up in Japan, when the fortune teller said that Tanya would marry, and Nene said maybe she’d marry someone else, and then Tanya was crying and Nene fake-apologized.  I defended Tanya at the time, but...

I’m in agreement with you about marriage vs engaged vs boyfriend/girlfriend.  My husband and I were together for three years, living together most of them, before he put a ring (an engagement ring) on it.  We never called each other anything other than girlfriend and boyfriend, because that’s all we were, which was fine.  After I became engaged (and we set a date relatively quickly, with a deposit on a venue, etc, even though we didn’t get married for over a year), when people asked my status, I would find myself saying, “engaged.  Like, really engaged.  Like, I have a wedding date.”  And I realized I was saying all that stupid shit because of people like Tanya and Paul who seem to think that engaged is a permanent status.  I tend to agree that I don’t know why they bothered to get engaged.  I thought “engaged” was a temporary status. 

I just don’t know why people would put incorrect words on something when there are correct words right there for the taking.  That’s another reason I have a bee in my bonnet when Porsha says over and over that she and Dennis are “family.”  They are not family.  They share a child.  Only upon taking marriage vows will they be family.  Does Porsha really think she and Dennis are family, the way she thinks no one should advocate for the devil, or is she just being lax in her language?  I could sooner forgive the former.  

My takeaway?  Just...be accurate.  Kandi never made Todd anything he was not.  He was a boyfriend, then a fiancé, then a husband.  Each one has its own meaning, so why say one when you mean another unless you’re trying to be something you’re not?  (And I understand that we have no control what other people say about us; I’m just talking about the words we choose when we label our relationships.  Sometimes someone at work will be talking to me about their boyfriend, and they ask me if it’s the same with me and my boyfriend, and I don’t correct them, because I know they’re all up in their head stories and they’re not overly invested in my status at the moment).

[jalady]

On 1/14/2020 at 11:01 AM, ZaldamoWilder said:

@luckyroll3 @Brooklynista

No Jouvert payday loans necessary.  We can get our costumes from the same place as crisis wigs.  #girlstrip2020.   What up with it?   Ya'll think I'm bullshittin, I'm really not, August is perfect for me, I'm grown! 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000521233599.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7f2d5e69InCmWD&algo_pvid=fa447a12-8b26-4442-ac35-f1749224e98f&algo_expid=fa447a12-8b26-4442-ac35-f1749224e98f-30&btsid=0e4a9b56-4128-4dff-9edf-42137e144a88&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_53

 

On 1/14/2020 at 11:01 AM, ZaldamoWilder said:

@luckyroll3 @Brooklynista

No Jouvert payday loans necessary.  We can get our costumes from the same place as crisis wigs.  #girlstrip2020.   What up with it?   Ya'll think I'm bullshittin, I'm really not, August is perfect for me, I'm grown! 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000521233599.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7f2d5e69InCmWD&algo_pvid=fa447a12-8b26-4442-ac35-f1749224e98f&algo_expid=fa447a12-8b26-4442-ac35-f1749224e98f-30&btsid=0e4a9b56-4128-4dff-9edf-42137e144a88&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_53

 

On 1/14/2020 at 2:02 PM, Rlb8031 said:

Awwww sookie, sookie now!

I may need to dust off the passport and the roller bag.

I'm in and I pick Anguilla since I've never been there 🙂  Plus, my birthday is in August and I can officially RETIRE on my birthday this year (probably won't but it's nice to have options, LOL) so I'll be ready to par-tay!!!

With regard to what people call each other, I have a friend at work who always spoke about her "beau".  They lived together so I assumed he was her BF and never asked if they were engaged/planning to get married, whatever.  One day we were talking and she said "husband".  Of course I was like "OMG!  Congratulations!!! When did you get married?", etc.  Her answer - "X number of years ago" (I can't remember the exact number)  I said "but you always called him your beau".  Her answer - "Yes, because I like the sound of that word".  LOLOL.

Sorry for the double quote above.   I can't get the first one to go away 😞

 

[Marley]

Kenya is a miserable evil woman but Paul probably is cheating on Tanya. There’s usually a reason ppl are engaged forever and Paul is best buddies with Dennis too so they are prob dogs together. Sad for Tanya and Porsha but I doubt this behaviour is some surprise to them

[renatae]

On 1/13/2020 at 12:05 PM, LibertarianSlut said:

On 1/13/2020 at 12:55 AM, drivethroo said:

 

This is where I’m at with the issue too.  How on God’s green earth did Cynthia become the victim here?  Where does she get off letting a giant Lisa Rinna tear fall down her face as she begs Nene to tell her who has the audio?  The full question is, “Nene, who recorded me talking shit behind your back?”  Does that sound utterly absurd to anyone else?

Yes. This reminds me so much of doggie gate. The shyster who dumped the dog gets off scot free with plenty of sympathy while the person who supposedly leaked info to the press becomes the villainess. 🙄

Not that I am upset for NeNe. She spent plenty of time trashing Cynthia and what goes around comes around. But this storyline is stale.

[brillia79]

Ok, I’m several episodes behind and I’ll catch up this weekend...

but is Cynthia trying to be NeNe’s friend again? Why does it matter if 100% Not That Bitch Yovana recorded her talking shit about NeNe? I’d talk shit about NeNe on Wendy Williams, The Breakfast Club and TMZ if anyone wanted to hear it.

Because NeNe ain’t shit.

[biakbiak]

3 hours ago, renatae said:

Yes. This reminds me so much of doggie gate. The shyster who dumped the dog gets off scot free with plenty of sympathy while the person who supposedly leaked info to the press becomes the villainess. 🙄

But Cynthia hasn’t denied talking smack about Nene and Nene refuses to say what was actually said and also refuses to put the person who recorded it out there for Cynthia to have a discussion about it. If it were really as awful as she claims she would actually say what was said but she’s not so Cynthia can’t even address it specifically.

[renatae]

10 hours ago, biakbiak said:

But Cynthia hasn’t denied talking smack about Nene and Nene refuses to say what was actually said and also refuses to put the person who recorded it out there for Cynthia to have a discussion about it. If it were really as awful as she claims she would actually say what was said but she’s not so Cynthia can’t even address it specifically.

I agree. NeNe can take a few seats. Not in her corner at all. It's just weird that Cynthia *is* acting a bit of a victim here. However, I'm here for whatever she wants to dish about NeNe.