Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[dubbel zout]

I was going to do a whole post about how there's no way Heather would be set free even if cobalt poisoning affected her judgment, given she admits to committing the crimes, but then I remembered this is GH. Logic and reality doesn't exist, especially when it comes to legal stories.

Edited October 2 by dubbel zout

[YaddaYadda]

41 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Logic and reality doesn't exist, especially when it comes to legal stories wanting to keep a character on canvas no matter, especially when they're useless.

Good point, but I thought I'd make a change.

[dubbel zout]

Acknowledging that the vast majority of the characters are played out, it's still super annoying when the show goes to such lengths to keep on a character like Heather, just because Frank falls in love with Ally Mills.

Edited October 2 by dubbel zout

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

I also thought that Portia seems to be under the impression that everyone should be looking out for her interests in terms of who is in or out of prison, the hospital, and so on.  

This is one of the things I can't stand about Portia. She acts like Trina was Esme's main/only true victim and that Heather presents an on-going threat to Trina's life, whenever she's talking to Laura or whomever. The revenge porn charges were either dropped against Trina, or she was found not guilty (I don't recall). Nina, Maxie and her kids lost a family member when Heather murdered Britt. Brando was also murdered and had family members who mourned. Portia's friend Elizabeth's son's first relationship and losing his virginity will forever be scarred by/tied to the humiliation of PCU classmates seeing the revenge porn. I don't think Portia has even once asked Elizabeth how Cam's doing since he chose to go to college in California. Laura's grandson is presumed dead due to saving Trina and you'd think Portia has completely forgotten that Laura did in fact lose a loved one. Portia's sorry for Trina's pain but she doesn't seem to feel at all bad that a young man "died."

[ciarra]

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I was going to do a whole post about how there's no way Heather would be set free even if cobalt poisoning affected her judgment, given she admits to committing the crimes, but then I remembered this is GH.

In Canada, yeah.  Mental health.  Schizo guy beheaded a passenger on a Greyhound bus, they eventually let him out. 

[statsgirl]

They let him out after 9 years, first in a psychiatric prison and then a group home and he will be on unpleasant and toxic drugs for the rest of his life.

Heather was crime'in long before she got the hip replacement. A logical person would take that into account, that she was in prison long before she went psychotic and still has to pay for that, but Portia is not a logical person.

On 9/26/2024 at 3:32 PM, driver18 said:

What a typo!

Unconscious at work. lol.

On 10/1/2024 at 3:22 PM, Bringonthedrama said:

From what I could see, Terry only knows positive things about Lucky and their young relationship, from Elizabeth. She also knows Elizabeth has been through a lot: raising her sons through the relationship with Franco and then he was murdered, the on-again, off-again relationship with Finn that didn't end well and her eldest son going off to college during that time. Now Jake is off to college, so it's going to be just her and Aiden. That's a lot of upheaval. I don't think Terry is inherently wrong for getting Elizabeth to consider that maybe Lucky being back in Port Charles could mean something positive for her life and Aiden's.

Terry knows that there were problems in Liz and Lucky's relationship and that Lucky left Elizabeth alone to raise three sons.  And that while he has been in touch with his biological son intermittently (not the other two who called him "Dad"), he left pretty much everything to Liz to handle alone..

Terry would be wise to warn Liz not to get her hopes up and start dreaming those adolescent dreams that she once dreamed.  Liz is very vulnerable right now and there is a danger in falling for Lucky again and going through the heartbreak even worse if he hasn't changed.

8 hours ago, KittyQ said:

I also thought that Portia seems to be under the impression that everyone should be looking out for her interests in terms of who is in or out of prison, the hospital, and so on.

Portia thinks that everyone should revolve around what she wants, she's another Carly. A smart person would think that the first thing that a competent lawyer working for Heather would do, on reading the lab results, would be to send the blood to another lab for confirmation, and get an expert witness to explain what's going on.

Portia is not the brightest bulb in the marquee.

Edited October 3 by statsgirl

[ciarra]

Locked up for psych reasons, imo, you should go to regular prison after.

I could go on (regarding other CDN cases), but I won't.

[DanaK]

It looks like the Baseball Wildcard stuff is done on ABC with 2 games. If I’m not misunderstanding that, there should be a GH episode today. If you have a DVR, check that it has the show set to record, otherwise you’ll have to manually set it

[Asp Burger]

The promo voice after Monday's episode said "Thursday, on General Hospital!" so there may have been a plan for another network to take over in the event of a third early-afternoon game. But the only series actually requiring three games this year is Brewers/Mets, and that's being played in prime time.

Brick haters, in his day job, he's very high on the Mets, so that's the one to root against if you want him to be angry tomorrow. "Angrier," since he's angry pretty much all the time.

Edited October 3 by Asp Burger

[dubbel zout]

11 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Heather was crime'in long before she got the hip replacement. A logical person would take that into account, that she was in prison long before she went psychotic and still has to pay for that, but Portia is not a logical person.

Neither are the show writers. i have to think Heather will eventually be set loose from Pentonville, or all of this is pointless. (Not that the show thinks about that or cares.) 

UGH. (Not a reflection on Alley Mills; it's not her fault.)

Edited October 3 by dubbel zout

[Bringonthedrama]

Lucky: "You haven't changed a bit."

Elizabeth: Hugs him tight, despite how much he must stink!

Now that's ❤️!!

Loved the flashback to when teens Lucky and Elizabeth met at Kelly's!

Also loved "Aunt Bobbie would be proud" re: I'm head nurse now and he asks to talk/catch up with her. But Lucky, dear, take Elizabeth up on her offer to take you to Laura's. You need a shower ASAP!!! 😂 when he asked if Isaiah had been flirting with her. 

Her confusion that Carly didn't tell him she painted the Bobbie's sign.❤️"I'd know your brush stroke anywhere"❤️ Oh JJ, you got me right in the feels!!

Shut up comparing your situation to Alexis, Heather. 

Shut up, Molly.

Jason and Dante coming face-to-face in the doorway of Lulu's hospital room = awkward.

So now the writers are having Sam be on good terms with Jason before she dies? That was an odd scene.

Elizabeth hugging Jason in gratitude made me think the writers are flirting with the idea of a love triangle. 

So Lucky tells Elizabeth that Aiden is his next stop, but in the previews he's talking to Sonny in his office?! And he's still unshowered, wearing the same clothes?!

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Asp Burger]

Not an original comment, but...Becky and Jonathan have still got it. I'm not really a shipper for anyone, but I am enjoying this middle-aged reconnection so far. And how cool that the show was able to produce the first meeting, with the same actors in the roles. They wouldn't be able to do that with Sonny/Carly, Carly/Jason, and some other prominent pairings.

I cannot figure out what the intended play is with Molly. Storming out of a visit with her mother in prison over the latest "evidence" that Mom likes the other daughter more? I hate to say it, but the actress's one-dimensional anger and disdain are hurting the character. The dialogue creates the impression that Molly never even liked Kristina and that this miscarriage is just the latest thing her basket-case sister did to make her (Molly's) life harder. I feel as though the actress is taking the words entirely at face value, when they could be read as if that top layer isn't the whole truth. I know that sounds presumptuous. Maybe she's giving them exactly what they want from her, and if she isn't, it's their job to communicate it to her. I just find the choices bewildering, and I'm reaching a point where I can't stand to see Molly enter a scene. 

I have a slightly better idea of what they're trying to do with Portia, but I don't like it. I enjoyed this character and Brook Kerr once upon a time. 

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

(Not a reflection on Alley Mills; it's not her fault.)

Yeah. She's fine, IMO. She brings a high energy level to it, she very convincingly plays a kind of mental illness that keeps the people talking to her uncomfortable and on edge even on her good days, and she's without vanity; she's willing to look much more bedraggled here than she did on The Wonder Years. I just feel Heather works in small doses, no matter who's playing her, and we're getting too much of her for too long.

I couldn't stand Ric Lansing in his first tenure, and I barely remember the second one, but so far, they're writing him well.

Edited October 3 by Asp Burger

[GHScorpiosRule]

10 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Loved the flashback to when teens Lucky and Elizabeth met at Kelly's!

This had me SQUEEEEEEEEING like my inner teen self!

Lucky: "I'm Lucky."

15 Year Old Elizabeth: "We'll See." 

Me: 😍🥰🥰😍

And the call back to coffee and cigarettes.

When was the last time Jason had any use for Lulu or had any sub-sub-sub stories or scenes after Julie left?

Waaaaay to show professionalism, Portia. Her ASS needs to be FIRED.

And can someone please remind me why she hates Brad so much? Yes, yes, I remember Brad falling on the sword for the Jonas/Wiley switch. What else did he do?

And this will be me being a broken record: We now have Brad in the opening credits, but STILL NO JJ/LUCKY!!!!!! 

My dvr cut off  when Elizabeth told Lucky that Aiden wasn't bulletproof. Then picked up with Curtis. What did Lucky say?

Go Away Jason.

But oh my heart! my HEART! MY HEART!!!!!!! The scenes with Lucky and Elizabeth were EVERYTHING!!!

 

[statsgirl]

11 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

. But Lucky, dear, take Elizabeth up on her offer to take you to Laura's. You need a shower ASAP!!! 😂 when he asked if Isaiah had been flirting with her.

Yes, please. And wash your hair. A shave wouldn't hurt either.

I HATE that Brad is going to get blamed for Portia changing the cobalt results. And why is Trina being so pissy about Brad?  What did he ever do to her?

We haven't seen Marshall for at least four months, why did they even bother with that scene? Curtis' dialogue also seemed more like he didn't need his father than that he wanted his father to live out his dream.

Was that flirting between Ric and Ava?

5 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

I cannot figure out what the intended play is with Molly. Storming out of a visit with her mother in prison over the latest "evidence" that Mom likes the other daughter more? I hate to say it, but the actress's one-dimensional anger and disdain are hurting the character. The dialogue creates the impression that Molly never even liked Kristina and that this miscarriage is just the latest thing her basket-case sister did to make her (Molly's) life harder. I feel as though the actress is taking the words entirely at face value, when they could be read as if that top layer isn't the whole truth. I know that sounds presumptuous. Maybe she's giving them exactly what they want from her, and if she isn't, they should talk to her. I just find the choices bewildering, and I'm reaching to a point where I can't stand to see Molly enter a scene.

Quoting your whole paragraph because i agree with it all. TJ and Molly are coming across as very unlikable.

Twitter, however adores Molly and TJ and wants Kristina Punished! so maybe that's where the writers are taking their direction from.

[JMO]

I think they're playing out the Lucky/Elizabeth reunion really well---just enough affection, just enough restraint.  For me, it has the same feel as the early relationship, but tempered by years of maturity and experience.  Well done.  

On a more shallow note:  I notice that they finally seem to have lightened up on the dark eye makeup, and I welcome it.  Also, MW makes every outfit look amazing.  TA is pretty good with that, too.  And JE is a given.

[dubbel zout]

11 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

I have a slightly better idea of what they're trying to do with Portia, but I don't like it.

I don't like it at all. It's gross to see the co-COS harass a self-proclaimed "lowly lab tech" because she's worried he'll figure out she messed with some test results. It's even worse because she knows Brad is feeling vulnerable on probation.

2 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

And why is Trina being so pissy about Brad?  What did he ever do to her?

It sounded to me like she was just parroting what Stella said about Brad. Does Trina even know him? 

16 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

I cannot figure out what the intended play is with Molly. Storming out of a visit with her mother in prison over the latest "evidence" that Mom likes the other daughter more?

It would help if they had Alexis acknowledge more solidly that Kristina doesn't make the best choices, but as her mom, Alexis is going to do everything she can to protect her nonetheless. I feel like all Alexis does is try to excuse/explain Kristina's behavior, which isn't the same thing. It's not disloyal to recognize your kids have shortcomings.

"How'd you know I painted [the Bobbie's sign]? "I'd know your brushstroke anywhere." Reader, I swooned. (And I don't care if Elizabeth and Lucky get back together.)

Thank Jasus that Marshall is going on tour tomorrow with Winton Marsalis. His continued martyrdom is boring.

Ava's outfit was...something.

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

"How'd you know I painted [the Bobbie's sign]? "I'd know your brushstroke anywhere." Reader, I swooned. (And I don't care if Elizabeth and Lucky get back together.)

[mostlylurking]

I’ve been waiting for the Liz and Lucky reunion and it did not disappoint.  Yep, they still got it.  They’ve both messed up royally with each other, especially Lucky running around saving the world while neglecting his own child.  But I can’t help it.  I love them.  In real life, maybe not so much.  But this is a soap and they have hella chemistry and I was obsessed with them back in the day.  I want some of that magic back.  They are both amazing actors.  “I’d know your brush strokes anywhere”. SIGH…..

Edited October 3 by mostlylurking

[tessaray]

Portia is a terrible physician. We already knew that when she prematurely forced the drug dealer out of his coma and now with her hostile treatment of Heather and changing the Cobalt results.  So what if she feels a teeny, tiny bit guilty? Ugh. And now she's pretty much threatening Brad's job. I'm not the first to say "Pot meet Kettle" but sheesh. 

Heather knows Alexis is a Cassadine, right? I was surprised she didn't bring up their shared connection with Ace.

It's been interesting to see Elizabeth's reactions to both Ric and Lucky. Triangles bore me but I'm glad to see Becky get a moment. 

[PatsyandEddie]

I wasn’t watching back when Lucky and Liz were so young. I wish I had been!! JJ is a doll and an excellent actor. I’m really happy that Liz will be at the frontline. She’s sorely underused by TPTB. 

[TVbitch]

Lucky's been living in squalor and his own filth and has not bathed in weeks. WEEKS! Why is he stopping into Bobby's for a bite?! Those people are trying to eat! Why was he not cleaned up before all this medical testing?! He is a walking petri dish! ...still hot though. 

Sadly, I had to FF what seems to be Marshall's exit scene as it was so damn boring and irrelevant. 

Kemo is running on "life support only" to get through her last scenes. 

[Bringonthedrama]

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

When was the last time Jason had any use for Lulu or had any sub-sub-sub stories or scenes after Julie left?

And can someone please remind me why she hates Brad so much? Yes, yes, I remember Brad falling on the sword for the Jonas/Wiley switch. What else did he do?

My dvr cut off  when Elizabeth told Lucky that Aiden wasn't bulletproof. Then picked up with Curtis. What did Lucky say?

 

 

He's concerned about Lulu because his bestie is suddenly so invested in her "cuz" and asked him to go bring Lucky back for Lulu's sake. Also, Dante thanked Jason on his and Rocco's behalf. Jason knows that Danny lives with Dante and Rocco; their fear and worry touches his life. And last but certainly not least in his world, Lulu is the mother of Sonny's grandson Rocco. Lulu is family to both Carly and Sonny, so of course Jason has to make a stop at her bedside.

I don't think it so much that Portia hates Brad as she's scared/ nervous he's going to somehow figure out she changed Heather's cobalt test results as the investigating continues, driven by Ric. There's a reason Ava asked Ric, well who at GH would benefit from Heather staying in prison? 

Elizabeth was worried about Aiden getting invested in and then disappointed by Lucky, knowing he's back to save Lulu (not to build relationships with family). Lucky said he won't make Aiden any promises he can't keep.

Edited October 3 by Bringonthedrama

[ciarra]

15 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I don't think it so much that Portia hates Brad as she's scared/ nervous he's going to somehow figure out she changed Heather's cobalt test results as the investigating continues, driven by Ric.

Portia does know that Brad is easily blackmail-able, though.  Keep quiet or lose your job.

[KittenPokerCheater]

Please please TPTB, give Lucky and shower and shave.

[dubbel zout]

Someone at GH should drag Lucky into the staff showers and tell him not to come out until he's scrubbed himself pink and shiny. Only then will they resume testing him as a match for Lulu.

Adult JJ has always been kind of scruffy, but this is ridiculous.

Edited October 3 by dubbel zout

[LadyWave]

2 hours ago, PatsyandEddie said:

I wasn’t watching back when Lucky and Liz were so young. I wish I had been!! JJ is a doll and an excellent actor. I’m really happy that Liz will be at the frontline. She’s sorely underused by TPTB. 

I had always heard so much about their story when I was young and wanted to see it, so my friend directed me to a YouTube playlist of their entire story up until the fire. I watched it during the early days of the pandemic and then started watching GH after that because of it. I’m so excited to have Lucky back!

[GHScorpiosRule]

JJ was the creamy icing on the cake when Luke and Laura returned in 1993 for me. I was primarily excited for them to come back, but when I saw how Luke and Lucky scared the bejesus out of Laura in their diner with those masks, and seeing this adorable tween who was so believable as Luke and Laura’s child? And the natural chemistry? I fell instantly in love with the character. JJ, along with Kimberley McCullough was a great find with oodles of talent. Actors believable as children of this soap’s iconic characters and one of the best super spies.

[Cheyanne11]

Sorry, I can't remember--what's the relationship between Curtis and Marshall? 🙄

The Lucky/Elizabeth scenes were good--they slipped right back into their dynamic and, for better or worse, Lucky does have a lot of Luke's charms (when he wanted to be charming, that is).  But, dammit, please make him take a shower.

Did Ava go to a sale of Barbiecore clothes?  

I have zero--ZERO--patience for where this test tampering story is going.  Seriously, fuck Portia when she lets Brad take the rap.  I hope everyone finds out and shuns her like she was Julian or Nina.

[statsgirl]

My local station is runnng rerums of Killjoys and I really want Delle Seyah to come on GH and smack Portia for being such an incompetent villain. Already Ric, Ava and Alexis have figured out that there may be something hinky going on and they haven't even heard that Brad is back.

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

It sounded to me like she was just parroting what Stella said about Brad. Does Trina even know him? 

 It's not disloyal to recognize your kids have shortcomings.

It doesn't feel like Stella to call someone like Bard "a bad egg", especially as she's such a Sonny propper. She usually has more empathy than that. Brad did some bad things but because he felt pressure and trapped. He's not a sociopath.

Molly's inability to understand and accept that people can have shortvomings makes me very glad that she doesn't have children.

4 hours ago, tessaray said:

Heather knows Alexis is a Cassadine, right? I was surprised she didn't bring up their shared connection with Ace

I suspect the writers forgot. I know that I did.

[KittyQ]

On 9/25/2024 at 7:22 AM, YaddaYadda said:

She can do anything and is not limited by her title. She is making these people millions of dollars because she has a huge business brain.

Haha! Titles and business hierarchies mean nothing in the GH world. An intern today is a world-class surgeon tomorrow, and anyone who works in a company (and everyone who does is at the top of the hierarchy) can do any job regardless of their title and job description, and a guy who was in prison is now the new head of the Port Charles WSB office. 

[Mirabelle]

1 hour ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

Please please TPTB, give Lucky and shower and shave.

Of all the things Portia has done, not offering Lucky a shower and a razor is among the top 3 reasons why she's on my shit list right now.

The number one reason is setting up Brad to take the fall for her crimes. It's so obvious that's the way this story is going. 

Edited October 4 by Mirabelle

[Bringonthedrama]

32 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

My local station is runnng rerums of Killjoys and I really want Delle Seyah to come on GH and smack Portia for being such an incompetent villain. Already Ric, Ava and Alexis have figured out that there may be something hinky going on and they haven't even heard that Brad is back.

It doesn't feel like Stella to call someone like Bard "a bad egg", especially as she's such a Sonny propper. She usually has more empathy than that. Brad did some bad things but because he felt pressure and trapped. He's not a sociopath

Portia is arrogant and entitled, like her daughter's bestie's family. That's the issue here. I don't think the Show is trying to paint her as a villain, incompetent or otherwise. They have Ava for that.

I don't believe Stella called Brad a "bad egg"; it sounds more like Trina interpreting or paraphrasing something Stella said about someone with a history of bad/sketchy behavior and applying it to Brad because she knows from bestie Joss about evil Brad and Nelle switching babies and then Brad lying to Joss's family. 

[Suicidy]

On 9/30/2024 at 11:17 AM, YaddaYadda said:

Lucille Bluth owns my heart.

Same.  I adored her as Lucille, and also as Mallory Archer on ‘Archer’.  So deliciously bitchy.

[Suicidy]

On 9/30/2024 at 9:23 PM, ciarra said:

I went downtown today.  When I got home, I wanted to shower and change.  I didn't travel from freakin' Africa and lounge around in the same clothes.  Lucky gets a pass for needing to get to GH, but the rest of them? 

Some people like to wallow in their own crapulence.  

5 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Lucky's been living in squalor and his own filth and has not bathed in weeks. WEEKS! Why is he stopping into Bobby's for a bite?! Those people are trying to eat! Why was he not cleaned up before all this medical testing?! He is a walking petri dish! ...still hot though. 

Sadly, I had to FF what seems to be Marshall's exit scene as it was so damn boring and irrelevant. 

Kemo is running on "life support only" to get through her last scenes. 

I would think the WSB has protocols for that.  They wouldn’t want someone bringing back some bacteria or virus that might become a real problem here.  When i was in the Gulf during Desert Storm we were isolated for over a week before we came back to the US so we weren’t freshly exposed to any of that, and also to give everyone an opportunity to thoroughly wash everything coming back with us.

[Suicidy]

On 10/2/2024 at 1:59 PM, Bringonthedrama said:

This is one of the things I can't stand about Portia. She acts like Trina was Esme's main/only true victim and that Heather presents an on-going threat to Trina's life, whenever she's talking to Laura or whomever. The revenge porn charges were either dropped against Trina, or she was found not guilty (I don't recall). Nina, Maxie and her kids lost a family member when Heather murdered Britt. Brando was also murdered and had family members who mourned. Portia's friend Elizabeth's son's first relationship and losing his virginity will forever be scarred by/tied to the humiliation of PCU classmates seeing the revenge porn. I don't think Portia has even once asked Elizabeth how Cam's doing since he chose to go to college in California. Laura's grandson is presumed dead due to saving Trina and you'd think Portia has completely forgotten that Laura did in fact lose a loved one. Portia's sorry for Trina's pain but she doesn't seem to feel at all bad that a young man "died."

The writers have turned Portia into massive bitch and concern troll, who has to rag on anyone she doesn’t approve of, including Brad, which doesn’t even really make sense.  It must really take a complete dearth of writing talent to take actors who are intrinsically likable people and make them this loathsome and repellent.

like the way they’ve turned Molly and TJ from an attractive pleasant couple into two of the most miserable, excruciating and annoying people I’ve ever had to endure (on TV anyway). It’s funny too, as I happened to come across a movie on Tubi last weekend that starred Kristen Vaganos (Molly).  Ot was some mediocre werewolf film, but she came off as attractive and likable.  So the problem with Molly is 100% writing.  
 

And as far as Portia goes, she’s giving Carly a run for her money as the most irritating character.  Which is really saying something.

[Suicidy]

5 hours ago, ciarra said:

Portia does know that Brad is easily blackmail-able, though.  Keep quiet or lose your job.

It would be very funny if he says to her “Oh Hell no!  I’ve been down this road before.  Not happening.  And if you push it. I won’t go to Dr. Randolph, I’ll call my mob boss aunty Selina.  The you can have a nice little chat with HER.”

I could forgive almost everything else wrong with this show if they did that.

[Winston Wolfe]

10 hours ago, PatsyandEddie said:

I wasn’t watching back when Lucky and Liz were so young. I wish I had been!! JJ is a doll and an excellent actor. I’m really happy that Liz will be at the frontline. She’s sorely underused by TPTB. 

The actors almost always bring out the best in each other. Watching yesterday, when Lucky asked "Did he (Isiah) talk about me? Did he hit on you?" there was a quiet natural-ness that we don't get much of these days. It was nice.

12 hours ago, tessaray said:

Portia is a terrible physician.

She's also an awful human being in general.

In light of past Chiefs-of-Staff like Steve Hardy, Monica and Alan Quartermaine, Portia and Terry really, really suck.

Edited October 4 by Winston Wolfe

[graight]

4 hours ago, Suicidy said:

And as far as Portia goes, she’s giving Carly a run for her money as the most irritating character.  Which is really saying something.

I was just thinking that Portia should become an honorary Carly.

OK, so I almost always root for the underdog (AJ, Zander, Skye, Nina, Ava and now Brad and Heather).  I'm hoping Heather has her day in court notwithstanding whatever it was she did before the Hook. Too far back for me to remember (reminders are welcome, though).  I'm curious as to how they will have her interact with PC folks when/if she gets out of prison. Did I miss the part where Heather told Alexis that Ric has already done independent cobalt tests? Why is Alexis' big idea to get another test?

Speaking of Alexis, probably my favorite character because NLG is so good.  I love that she's not wearing makeup and I would bet that is her decision.  Who wears makeup in prison?

 

[mostlylurking]

14 hours ago, PatsyandEddie said:

I wasn’t watching back when Lucky and Liz were so young. I wish I had been!! JJ is a doll and an excellent actor. I’m really happy that Liz will be at the frontline. She’s sorely underused by TPTB. 

Oh you must go down a YouTube rabbit hole then!  They were so good. JJ was a natural playing Luke and Laura’s kid and Becky was so fiesty and bold. Make sure you have time though….you’ll be there a while!

15 hours ago, tessaray said:

Portia is a terrible physician. We already knew that when she prematurely forced the drug dealer out of his coma and now with her hostile treatment of Heather and changing the Cobalt results.  So what if she feels a teeny, tiny bit guilty? Ugh. And now she's pretty much threatening Brad's job. I'm not the first to say "Pot meet Kettle" but sheesh. 

Why does Portia et al hate Brad so much?  Also why would he be blamed, he doesn’t have any connection to Heather does he?  I know he runs the lab but he would have no reason to change the results. 

Edited October 4 by mostlylurking

[mostlylurking]

3 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

The actors almost always bring out the best in each other. Watching yesterday, when Lucky asked "Did he (Isiah) talk about me? Did he hit on you?" there was a quiet natural-ness that we don't get much of these days. It was nice.

That’s the word I always come back to as well. It’s just natural. The whole “did he flirt with you” could have been possessive and gross, but it was just so damn natural and normal. I hope the writers don’t mess this up although I don’t hold out much hope. 

[driver18]

I keep going back to how JJ played the "I'd know your brushstrokes anywhere" line. It was so perfect. He didn't look at Elizabeth. He didn't say it sweetly it with yearning or heavy romanticism.  He wasn't trying to sell a line or BE romantic. He was looking at the sign and just stating a fact. And then he walked away because, yeah, that was that. Lucky would know Elizabeth's brushstrokes anywhere. That had not changed. 

And that is why I sighed and swooned. It was just perfect.

[ASpring1900]

My NY ABC affiliate ran an episode of Tamron at 3 on Thursday. Guess I'll catch this episode on Hulu. 

[KittenPokerCheater]

I don’t want to like Lucky.  But dammit, the scenes with Elizabeth were terrific.

[Daisy]

19 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Twitter, however adores Molly and TJ and wants Kristina Punished! so maybe that's where the writers are taking their direction from.

yeah. on reddit a LOT of people feel Molly is int he right, Kristina is just this pampered coddled so and so and Alexis deserves what she's getting because she allows all of that. and I am like... i think i missed something lol

[Sake614]

3 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

he runs the lab

That’s just it. He doesn’t run the lab anymore. He’s just a low level tech and is being heavily supervised BECAUSE of his history. And he has zero reason to alter Heather’s blood test. I don’t think he even knows her!

[GHScorpiosRule]

25 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

That’s just it. He doesn’t run the lab anymore. He’s just a low level tech and is being heavily supervised BECAUSE of his history. And he has zero reason to alter Heather’s blood test. I don’t think he even knows her!

Not just this, but Portia's extreme hatred of Brad is so over wrought, it had me wondering, just what did he do to her? As I stated, all I remember is Brad falling on his sword/after being threatened by Mooby, about the baby switch.

And he wasn't around during the discovery that Heather was the serial killer, so how would he even KNOW to go in there to alter the results to mess with Portia? Or that Portia was going around screeching about Heather? Oh wait, that's it! She was going around screeching in the hospital so that gave Brad the idea to frame her! Even typing that gives me second hand embarrassment.

[KerleyQ]

5 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Not just this, but Portia's extreme hatred of Brad is so over wrought, it had me wondering, just what did he do to her? As I stated, all I remember is Brad falling on his sword/after being threatened by Mooby, about the baby switch.

Was Brad somehow involved in Britt stealing the Lante embryo and implanting it in herself?  I could swear I remember him having something to do with that, and thought that was the reason (or at least one of them) for him getting the boot from the hospital.

OK, I had to go look. Yeah, he helped Britt use the Lante embryo and try to pass it off as Patrick's baby. He also helped her fake some lab tests to show that she was suffering with hyperemesis gravidarum, so that Patrick would feel obligated to take care of her. When Patrick found out the baby wasn't his, Brad claimed to be the father, so the Lante secret wouldn't come out. 

Again, though, none of that had a thing to do with Portia. The people it did affect - Patrick, Sabrina, Lulu, and Dante - are almost all off screen. And the one who is still around, Dante, doesn't have any kind of connection to Portia. (I know Lulu is technically back around, but, again, she has nothing to do with Portia.) And she can't even attempt to claim that she just has such a strong moral code around this shit that his past behavior sickens her, because, well, pot, meet kettle. Fucking with Heather's test results isn't even the first time Portia has blown right past ethical boundaries. And is she going to pretend that lying about a baby's parentage is abhorrent to her?  Because, again, pot, meet kettle. She fucked over Taggert, Curtis, and Trina for around 20 years, because it was more convenient for her to let Taggert think he was Trina's father. 

[Daisy]

26 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

She fucked over Taggert, Curtis, and Trina for around 20 years, because it was more convenient for her to let Taggert think he was Trina's father. 

not even that. she couldn't be bothered to figure out beause "why should I, you left.". This is why i am so mad that they ditched the schirzophrenzia storyline. like you just robbed Taggert of his daughter just for fun? let it have some consequences!

[ciarra]

You missed the time when Portia woke whatshisface up from a coma in order to exonerate Trina.

[tessaray]

5 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

Why does Portia et al hate Brad so much?  Also why would he be blamed, he doesn’t have any connection to Heather does he?

I think some of it is secondhand due to his close friendship with Britt but Portia has a rigid and extremely high moral code... for everyone other than herself or Trina. She's seriously unhinged** when it comes to her adult daughter. (Not that Carly wouldn't do the same things for her own but even Carly wouldn't demand the whole world treat Joss like a priceless hothouse orchid.) 

** Maybe when Kevin gets back he can point out to Portia just how much she and Heather have in common. 

 

Edited October 4 by tessaray
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