Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[JMO]

Have we seen Lulu talk to Carly about adoption yet?  Bobbie's giving Carly up when Bobbie was a teenager seems the most parallel situation to Brook Lynn's, even if the specifics are different.  I don't remember how or when Carly found out she was adopted.

Down the road, I wonder if we'll see Lulu use her writing skills to tell the world what it was like to step back into a life that had been lost to her for four years.  After therapy, of course.

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

There's a lack of delicacy and nuance that really bothers me. Everyone is just stomping through the story.

This resonated with me.  For me, I think it's because there's been more focus on the characters' unlikeable traits than their likeable ones.  It's hard to root for anyone when no one comes across as genuinely reflective, or vulnerable, or caring about how things might play out for others.

 

[driver18]

57 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Lulu never would have come up with the adoption angle if not for the files she found in Martin’s locked briefcase. In his locked room that she stole a key card to enter. And then made copies of files that had absolutely nothing to do with why she went there in the first place. 

And? Every single story in the world literally comes from some inspiration. This was what inspired Lulu's pitch. And it wS good enough of a pitch of the three that she gave to the Banner that they chose the adoption one.

[GHScorpiosRule]

23 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

Maybe he hears something from Rocco about his (Rocco's) mom's mad Girl Reporter skillz and he goes to her to help him look into finding his birth parents and things go on from there.

Except Gio doesn’t know he was adopted. So there’s no need for him to go looking for his birth parents. The dramaz will be the revelation he was adopted.

[Melgaypet]

36 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Except Gio doesn’t know he was adopted. So there’s no need for him to go looking for his birth parents. The dramaz will be the revelation he was adopted.

I...had forgotten that. Ugh, Gio really is a passive pawn in this story.

[KittenPokerCheater]

It would be awesome if Gio turns all angry and mean for awhile once he gets the news that Brooklyn and Dante are his birth parents.

[Bringonthedrama]

3 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Lulu never would have come up with the adoption angle if not for the files she found in Martin’s locked briefcase. In his locked room that she stole a key card to enter. And then made copies of files that had absolutely nothing to do with why she went there in the first place. 

Adoption has been on her mind more since she broke into Martin's room and then confronted Brook Lynn, but it's hardly a shocking or innovative general topic. As soon as nuLulu moved in with Laura and Kevin, Laura told her she and Kevin adopted little Ace because Nikolas is in prison. Right after Lulu went to Nina about Valentin because she wanted to find Charlotte, she and Carly had a talk that daughters need their mothers, and it turned a little emotional because Carly informed her "my mom" passed away while you were in the coma. They both knew they were not talking about Virginia Benson. They both know that Carly came looking for Bobbie as a 20-something adult. Lulu's liver donor/savior, Sam, also reunited with her bio mother Alexis and later (inadvertently) bio father Julian, as an adult. Alexis has mourned the growing up years lost with Sam as she has grieved Sam's death.  Lucas has been her cousin her entire life because Aunt Bobbie adopted him and she knows he met his biological father Julian and biological sister Sam as an adult.  He and Isaiah Gannon worked together to save Lulu's life with the transplant. And as has been mentioned before, as Ethan reunited with bio father Luke, Lulu discovered she had another brother.

You're right that taking those pics of Martin's files has nothing to do with Charlotte. But it absolutely has to do with her son, Rocco since the child is his half-sibling. If Lulu and Dante were divorced without kids, then I'd feel she was 1000% wrong to take the pics of the files and confront Brook Lynn. I have a dear friend who is the mother of a now-teenager and she made an effort years ago for her kid to know his younger half-siblings despite the father's choice to walk away from his exes and (for the most part) his children ... so I have a different perspective than some. Yes Brook Lynn thinks she doesn't know her son or where he is, but she does know Rocco and has seen him grow up in recent years. She was very good with her niece and since then has been all "I want to be a mom ASAP" yet there's never a mention or scene of Bailey Lou spending time with "Mama Brook Lynn" and it appears Brook Lynn hasn't given a moment of thought for her son's brother and his life/future other than to insinuate/accuse Lulu of being a bad mother to him.

I feel bad for Rocco when he finds out Grandma Olivia's stepdaughter who has known Dad well since childhood, kept this secret from them.

Keep in mind, I've never been a fan of either the Brook Lynn or Lulu characters. I wanted GF and JJ to get to perform together again and for both Laura and Lucky to have Lulu in their lives again. Laura has been deprived of having her Spencer kids in her life regularly for decades. Yet the Show can't go a week without Carly and/or Sonny having scenes with their assorted children.

Edited Monday at 01:44 AM by Bringonthedrama

[Grinaldi]

While I am certainly sympathetic to anyone with Post Babe is Love Stress Disorder, I do think Brooklyn is the one being irrational here. Lulu dislikes and distrusts BLQ for understandable reasons. But she is not blackmailing her with this information or spending all her time needling her. She thinks it was unfair to keep the info from Dante, which is a valid opinion. Should Lulu have this info? No. But she didn't seek it out. Once she knew it, she couldn't unsee it. And since it impacts both Dante and Rocco, she told BLQ that Dante should be told. I think that's fair. But she has not told Dante because that is not her place. 

The one behaving irrationally is BLQ. That ultimatum to Maxie is way out of line. Too many people know at this point -- most of whom were told by BLQ and Lois, not Lulu. She needs to bite the bullet and go to Dante. Lulu is not forcing her hand here, the sheer number of people in the know and the weight of the secret is. 

And for the record, I like Lulu in the reporter role. Is it an accurate portrayal of the journalistic profession? No. But neither is Isaiah running tox screens or Sonny being a gangster who doesn't deal in drugs, guns or prostitution.

And I have to echo the sentiment that Gio is way too passive here. He's a pawn in the story with no agency. And my guess is that Rocco is going to need something medical and that's how it comes out. That's bog standard soap. But other than Gio being upset to never know he was adopted, the people responsible for that are dead so where is the drama ? Compare that to the drama around Sam's parentage, or Carly's or even Lucas's. At least give us an ELQ story where he becomes the tiebreaker vote. Instead he's an affable guy with no hard edges so this will all be a shrug in the long run.

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, Grinaldi said:

The one behaving irrationally is BLQ. That ultimatum to Maxie is way out of line. Too many people know at this point -- most of whom were told by BLQ and Lois, not Lulu. She needs to bite the bullet and go to Dante. Lulu is not forcing her hand here, the sheer number of people in the know and the weight of the secret is. 

This! So much this. BLQ told Granny Tracy she only ever told her mother "until recently." In the past few months BLQ and Cody had a conversation that he dropped her off at the bus stop to go home from camp when she told him she was pregnant (and he knew about her and Dante). Did she forget that she told Cody? Or is that a writer's mistake? Six people (including her OB/GYN) know the secret from BLQ and Lois. Lulu has told Carly.

I assume BLQ is going to be forced to tell Dante because he overhears her fighting with someone about the secret and she can't deny what he heard, or Rocco will have a health crisis and she and Lois will both have to tell the truth.

[tessaray]

5 hours ago, Melgaypet said:

Maybe he hears something from Rocco about his (Rocco's) mom's mad Girl Reporter skillz and he goes to her to help him look into finding his birth parents and things go on from there.

That would have been much more interesting. As it is, since it doesn't appear as if Gio knows he was adopted I imagine the writers plan on him feeling betrayed by the adults who let him be orphaned and never said anything? I guess we'll see if he can act angsty. 

Edited Monday at 04:59 AM by tessaray

[dubbel zout]

Especially after Lulu talked to Laura, it's a shame the show never had Lulu and BL sit down and have a calm, measured conversation about this whole mess. But why do something thoughtful when you can have two women sniping at each other?

[ciarra]

17 hours ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

It would be awesome if Gio turns all angry and mean for awhile once he gets the news that Brooklyn and Dante are his birth parents.

But then I would have to care about Gio, and I don't. 

[statsgirl]

Emma is an idiot. Why doesn't back up the latest version on their laptop and leaves an old version on it instead? )(I know, I know, plot)

"[Emma] doesn't know what's at stake."  Do you Joss? Has anyone told you just why you need to be Dalton's RA or are you just take it on faith?

I'm with Tracy. Go away Lois. You are as judgemental as  you accuse Tracy of being.

Rocco is going to London for a debate trip (!). London Ohio? London New Hampshire? London Connecticut? Cuz i'm pretty sure he's not good enough for a debate tournament in London UK.

Am i supposed to like Portia? Or sympathize with her? She needs to be a better person first. At least Brad doesn't pretend to be a good person.

A Merck Manual on the bookshelf behind Lucas. Well done, set dresser.

19 hours ago, JMO said:

Down the road, I wonder if we'll see Lulu use her writing skills to tell the world what it was like to step back into a life that had been lost to her for four years.  After therapy, of course.

That would be a much better story, for us and for Lulu. This adoption story is ridiculous because she doesn't even have a focus for it (bad journalism), it's just hauled out so the show can torture Brook Lynn and have her fight with Lulu..

Carly of course sees it as a parallel to Robin telling AJ about Michael. But it's not because everyone knew that Michael was her child; no one knew that Brook Lynn had a baby.

18 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Except Gio doesn’t know he was adopted. So there’s no need for him to go looking for his birth parents.

Which is why Lulu needs to first talk to him to see if he knows that he is adopted.* If he doesn't (and we know that he doesn't, he thinks that he inherited his musical ability from his violinist mother), she needs to rethink blowing up his life.

There is no nuance to Lulu. It's all a zero sum game to her. There is no nuance to the story either. Just get it over with already.

*just as Alexis should have talked to Kristina first before asking Diane to draw up the commitment papers. TFGH.

[boes]

17 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

While I am certainly sympathetic to anyone with Post Babe is Love Stress Disorder

This is, without a doubt, one of the funniest, understated comment of all time, and I say this as someone diagnosed with the condition.  Thank the gods that Bobbie Eakes is nowhere in sight or there would absolutely be no hope.

As an aside, I've been told my dislike of Ryan Lavery aka Cam Mat has no cure, either.   I'm fine with that.

As for the reaction to the delayed news of "She's Having His Baby", everyone other than Paul Anka should be fine with it by the second cocktail.  The young'uns will have a moment of "Wow, cool, who knew?" and continue on like normal human beings.  But, being a soap, somebody will end up on a bridge, ready to jump, after they find out they're either related to, dating, working for, or having brunch with a previously unknown family member.

Meanwhile, Lulu will be sob-talking endlessly while BrookLynn rages in a sweater three sizes too big in the midst of a summer heat wave.

Is there a recorded song somewhere out there called "I Don't Give a Shit"?  If there is, please put it on "repeat".

All I want is for Tracy to take charge of Gio and keep him away from ALL the other dimwits he's suddenly related to.

Edited Monday at 07:43 PM by boes

[JMO]

9 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Which is why Lulu needs to first talk to him to see if he knows that he is adopted.* If he doesn't (and we know that he doesn't, he thinks that he inherited his musical ability from his violinist mother), she needs to rethink blowing up his life.

Does Lulu know it's Gio, though?  I don't think so. 

I think that, as of today, Tracy knows only that Brook Lynn had a child. Brook Lynn, Chase, Lulu, Cody and Carly know that she had a child with Dante.  Lois and Gloria know also that the child is Gio.  Dante, Gio, Ned and Olivia are clueless.  Is that right, or do I have something mixed up?

I'm going to guess that it's Tracy who puts it together. 

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

22 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Which is why Lulu needs to first talk to him to see if he knows that he is adopted.* If he doesn't (and we know that he doesn't, he thinks that he inherited his musical ability from his violinist mother)

Gio doesn't know he is adopted. And NuNuLooLoo doesn't know that Gio is Dante's kid. Just that it's a boy.

6 minutes ago, JMO said:

Does Lulu know it's Gio, though? 

No.

So is Rocco still passed out on the beach or did someone find him already?

[YaddaYadda]

26 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Rocco is going to London for a debate trip (!). London Ohio? London New Hampshire? London Connecticut? Cuz i'm pretty sure he's not good enough for a debate tournament in London UK.

You disappoint me. Where is London, Ontario?!?

Isn't this the debate everyone was supposed to go to? 

[dubbel zout]

Today I could tell Rocco and Danny apart because everyone kept saying their names, LOL.

Color me shocked it was Deana who helped Drew, not Amy.

Portia is so dumb. How does she know Brad won't tell Drew that she forced him to get ketamine? I'm so glad Brad went to Drew. And good for him for wanting some dough from Drew..

30 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Emma is an idiot. Why doesn't back up the latest version on their laptop and leaves an old version on it instead? )(I know, I know, plot)

So she was working off the file on her thumb drive, on her own laptop?  If she wasn't, where exactly was the latest file? This is the sort of casual carelessness I wish the show would fix. It's not that hard: Have Emma working on someone else's computer and they needed it so urgently she couldn't put the latest version from the thumb drive on the cloud. If I can figure out a solution off the top of my head here, the writers should be able to.

Boo to Dante telling Gio in the preview that Rocco's drinking is Gio's fault. You suck, Dante. I don't care what the situation is.

Edited Monday at 08:00 PM by dubbel zout

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, JMO said:

Does Lulu know it's Gio, though?  I don't think so. 

I think that, as of today, Tracy knows only that Brook Lynn had a child. Brook Lynn, Chase, Lulu, Cody and Carly know that she had a child with Dante.  Lois and Gloria know also that the child is Gio.  Dante, Gio, Ned and Olivia are clueless.  Is that right, or do I have something mixed up?

I'm going to guess that it's Tracy who puts it together. 

 

Lulu only knows Brook Lynn and Dante had a son. 

Lois told Martin (just out of ear shot of Gio and others in the Q mansion) that the young man there - Gio - is the child of Brook Lynn and Dante. Brook Lynn also told her OB/GYN doctor that she had a baby in the past, when she and Chase were a little frustrated that she wasn't pregnant after a few months of trying to conceive. They both decided to have tests done about fertility, and here we are now.

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

So is Rocco still passed out on the beach or did someone find him already?

He's still passed out; Danny found out and went back to the party and asked Gio (of course) for help getting Rocco back to the Q property. Danny left the boathouse to go get water, aspirin, etc. for Rocco while Gio stayed with him. Then Cody discovered them. 

EDIT: Cody and Gio got Rocco to the hospital for alcohol poisoning and Dante is under the impression Rocco was drinking at a college party on the beach with/because of Gio.

Lois sounded so much like Carly with the "this family" line to Tracy. It's clear from that scene IMO that Lois didn't want Gio being raised by the Quartermaines, once Brook Lynn said she wasn't ready to be a parent/wanted adoption.  I'm Team Tracy here.

Edited Monday at 09:00 PM by Bringonthedrama

[GHScorpiosRule]

48 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

So she was working off the file on her thumb drive, on her own laptop?  If she wasn't, where exactly was the latest file? This is the sort of casual carelessness I wish the show would fix. It's not that hard: Have Emma working on someone else's computer and they needed it so urgently she couldn't put the latest version from the thumb drive on the cloud.

I was thinking the same exact thing! It wasn't already on her hard drive, where was it for her to save on that thumb drive? This show is so stupid and is making ME stupid.

[ljr]

So port Charles has a beach, piers, esplanade,  and long winding country roads

Why is Emma carrying that thumb drive around?

Edited Yest. at 10:41 AM by ljr

[dubbel zout]

5 minutes ago, ljr said:

Why is Emma carrying that thumb drive around?

She;s going to give it to Professor Perv. Because apparently that's how the kids hand in their work these days. On a physical thumb drive. 

[statsgirl]

Emma was working on the data program at the hospital. She had a version on her laptop with errors and corrected them while waiting for Trina. And when she was done, she saved the corrected version not on her laptop, not on both the laptop and thumb drive but on the thumb drive only. Idiot. (Plot contrivance, if she had a copy on her laptop, she could have proved to Dalton that the version on the thumb drive had been altered.

I don't think that I've ever handed anything in on a  thumb drive. Do people even use them these days? And as someone said above ( @TVbitch?) what professor wouldn't want 50 thumb drives handed in on an assignment?

I really thought that Martin had written down that Gio was Brook Lynn's baby but I guess that I remember wrong.

1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

You disappoint me. Where is London, Ontario?!?

Isn't this the debate everyone was supposed to go to? 

I typed London Ontario first but then I checked to see if there were any Londons in the US (there are five). At least then Rocco would not have needed a passport. (60% of Americans don't have a passport.)

Edited Monday at 09:03 PM by statsgirl

[tessaray]

39 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

He's still passed out; Danny found out and went back to the party and asked Gio (of course) for help getting Rocco back to the Q property. Danny left the boathouse to go get water, aspirin, etc. for Rocco while Gio stayed with him. Then Cody discovered them. 

Is Rocco's condition going to be the final straw for Lulu?

While parts of the story have been clumsy, I grudging acknowledge this has been one of those topical stories soaps used to do well and it hasn't completely sucked. Teens binge drinking is a perennial problem. 

[YaddaYadda]

15 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I typed London Ontario first but then I checked to see if there were any Londons in the US (there are five). At least then Rocco would not have needed a passport. (60% of Americans don't have a passport.)

Rocco is definitely not the international traveler that Charlotte is.

London Ontario might sound like an exotic destination to the idiot writers.

[PatsyandEddie]

I can assure you it is not exotic in the least. 😂

[Bringonthedrama]

11 minutes ago, tessaray said:

Is Rocco's condition going to be the final straw for Lulu?

While parts of the story have been clumsy, I grudging acknowledge this has been one of those topical stories soaps used to do well and it hasn't completely sucked. Teens binge drinking is a perennial problem. 

Good question. The preview shows Dante angry at Gio and Carly talking privately/separately with Danny. Maybe Dante and Lulu will decide they want Rocco to live with her and Charlotte now because Rocco living around Danny and Gio has led to Rocco having his stomach pumped. 

One of my projections was that the boys showing up at a college party where Gio, Emma and Joss were for thumbdrive gate was a plot point set-up for Gio to save his for now unknown younger brother. 

The positive thing is Dante having a conflict with Gio about Rocco must mean he and Gio will both find out the truth soon. Let's move this along.  I am really really, really tired of hearing the words "my baby" out of Brook Lynn's mouth.

[dubbel zout]

48 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

she saved the corrected version not on her laptop, not on both the laptop and thumb drive but on the thumb drive only.

My programs always ask me if I want to save before I quit out of them, which makes this plot point even stupider.

58 minutes ago, tessaray said:

While parts of the story have been clumsy, I grudging acknowledge this has been one of those topical stories soaps used to do well and it hasn't completely sucked. Teens binge drinking is a perennial problem. 

I agree. The way everything happened was pretty true to life, for a change.

48 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

London Ontario might sound like an exotic destination to the idiot writers.

I'd be amazed the writers knew there were other Londons besides the one in England. They once told us Bolivia had a coast.

[Artsda]

Lois needs to be kicked out that house, considering her disdain for "this family.". Yet she's been living and free loading off them for how long?

She has Gio living in their house, she has no problems taking Sonny's mob money but the Quartermaines she'll attack. Lois needs to be packed up and kicked out. 

[Daisy]

40 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Lois needs to be kicked out that house, considering her disdain for "this family.". Yet she's been living and free loading off them for how long?

She has Gio living in their house, she has no problems taking Sonny's mob money but the Quartermaines she'll attack. Lois needs to be packed up and kicked out. 

 

I came here to rant about this exact same thing. She and Olivia have no problems throwing the money and living there and throwing the Name around but its this family and all you care about is money, when Sonny is MURDERING people and it's a-okay. Shut the very loving eff up. 

and I love how Lois threw "like you did with Dillion?" basically proving Tracy's point. Tracy couldn't (for whatever reasons be with Dillion) so she gave dillion to her family so he could BE WITH FAMILY. get to know them, etc etc whatever. 
 

if you don't like anything to do w/Q's then there's the door and walk right out of it people. trust me you won't be missed

[Maelstrom]

I'm really behind, but...

On 4/29/2025 at 2:53 AM, sacrebleu said:

And Kristina isn't doing the math that Alexis knows what she did? The actress played those scenes with ZERO nuance, no guilt/ suspicion, all outrage. 

On 4/29/2025 at 6:09 AM, GHScorpiosRule said:

I KNOW! It didn't even cross her peabrain that maybe Alexis found out what she had done to Ric's brakes! Alexis should have just shouted it out--with Molly there. Now THAT would have been good soap.

I desperately wanted Alexis to say "Well girls, I certainly don't want to TAMPER with your relationship. I wouldn't want anything to put the BRAKES on your reunion. And I certainly would hate to see you CUT ties with one another! Whaddya think, Kristina, should we still discuss this altogether as a family?"

Kate Mansi was decent for what, five minutes when she first came on, and now she's the same rage-inducing waste of space that she was on Days for how many years. 🙄

[boes]

2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

London Ontario might sound like an exotic destination to the idiot writers.

Just WAIT till you see the bridge!

It's not falling down.

 

[YaddaYadda]

Jesus Christ how fucking stupid is Portia. She's going to deserve everything she gets when this thing blows up in her face. Going to Brad was stupid as hell. And for some reason she doesn't think he has the power to blow her out of the water because it's his word against hers. Okay!!!

Dummy #2, Willow. Drew would never. We're in a mature relationship. We don't lie to each other. LOL!

Dummy #3, Nina. Tell your daughter Drew was fucking you even after he started making googly eyes at her. Rip off the band-aid and let the chips fall where they may.

And then there's Girl Reporter and Joss the Spy.

These characters are so irredeemable. 

 

[boes]

Artsda and Daisy, your posts about Lois's attitude to Quartermaines are both so spot on!  Perfection, thank you!

Lois, Olivia, Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

[Sake614]

3 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I really thought that Martin had written down that Gio was Brook Lynn's baby but I guess that I remember wrong.

He didn’t mention Gio by name but I’m 99% sure he wrote that the kid is living in the Q mansion, or maybe we’re both remembering wrong lol

[GHScorpiosRule]

6 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

He didn’t mention Gio by name but I’m 99% sure he wrote that the kid is living in the Q mansion, or maybe we’re both remembering wrong lol

No. His notes just stated it was a boy and that Dante was the father.

[Cheyanne11]

Good to know that in spite of her ~amazing life that 30 years on down the road Carly is still bitter she didn't bag Jason with the "Michael card."  

Honestly, can someone kick Lois out of the Q mansion? She just finds it so repulsive and yet she's been squatting there for I don't even remember how long now.

[statsgirl]

Robin blew up Carly's fantasy of a family with Michael and Jason. Unforgivable.

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

and I love how Lois threw "like you did with Dillion?" basically proving Tracy's point. Tracy couldn't (for whatever reasons be with Dillion) so she gave dillion to her family so he could BE WITH FAMILY. get to know them, etc etc whatever.

I don't think that any woman should be forced to be a mother if she doesn't want to be or isn't ready. But if you're going to go for adoption, let family have the option to be the ones adopting.

Which is what Lois and Gloria did. Gio was adopted by a close friend and when she died, Lois and Gloria took over taking care of him. They essentially adopted Gio without giving anyone else in the family, including Brook Lynn, to know who he is.

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

 Dante was the father.

Did you see Carly today telling Lulu she had no right to tell Dante Brook Lynn's secret and that she, Michael and Jason were happy as a family until Robin ruined it? That Robin and Jason's relationship was forever changed after she told AJ the truth? It seemed like in a roundabout way, Lulu reminded Carly of when she went to Jason and berated him to go be a father to Jake. 

I agree with Cheyanne above. I was greatly amused that Carly is still bitter that playing the "my/our son Michael" card didn't ultimately win her Jason's heart. 

[TVbitch]

6 hours ago, statsgirl said:

"[Emma] doesn't know what's at stake."  Do you Joss?

Those were my exact words during the scene. Joss has no idea why she is doing anything, and is just trusting Brenan on blind faith. Even when she knows her beloved Jason does not trust the guy. I have watched every episode of Homeland and Alias, so I think I can speak with authority when I say, most spies know what the mission IS. They might not get highly classified details, but they know why they are doing what they are doing ~as this is rather important information. Joss has not asked a single question about this mission.

[Grinaldi]

Gio has been on the show for a year. Other than some banter with Emma and backing up Tracy with Drew, Dante being mad about the Rocco situation is the first bit of meaningful conflict Gio has had with any character, right? What a pointless character.

[ByaNose]

I like Gio…..now. At first, they didn’t have him do anything. I think that was because he was very green and they wanted to work and ease him in slowly. He seems way more comfortable now and from today’s show it looks like he’s bulked up. While I’m not thrilled about nuEmma it’s nice to see Gio interact with her. It looks like he didn’t want to dime out Danny and Rocco to Dante. I guess Dante will start roughing up Gio and Lois will scream he’s your son! Basically, Olivia and Sonny 2.0 minus the gun shot. 

The whole Drew, Portia and Nina thing sounded great at the beginning but I didn’t think it would be solved in 2 days. WTH? I did appreciate Brad get him comeuppance but Portia can’t even do that right. All that said, I still think Drew has to get killed off right? Unless, they intend having nuMichael continuing the Drew rivalry further. 

When is the nurses ball? I want to make plans to avoid it. LOL!!!!

I know Lulu and Carly are related but I didn’t need Carly inserted into the Lulu and Dante scenes. Doesn’t Laura Wright (who I like) have enough to do? Good lord!

[Daisy]

46 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

The whole Drew, Portia and Nina thing sounded great at the beginning but I didn’t think it would be solved in 2 days. WTH?

well carly didn't do it. so of course it would be revealed asap

[ByaNose]

59 minutes ago, Daisy said:

well carly didn't do it. so of course it would be revealed asap

So true. 

[Grinaldi]

The speed of this drugged Drew story has me thinking it's more of a means to an end. Like are those blood tests going to reveal Drew has a different blood type than Jason and thus isn't really Drew? Because I am more and more convinced that is where we are headed.

[YaddaYadda]

10 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Honestly, can someone kick Lois out of the Q mansion? She just finds it so repulsive and yet she's been squatting there for I don't even remember how long now.

Lois should be kicked in the teeth then finds herself out on her ass with a one-way ticket to Bensonhurst.

Why did anyone want her back? Wanting characters we used to love back in the day because nostalgia is a curse.

9 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I don't think that any woman should be forced to be a mother if she doesn't want to be or isn't ready. But if you're going to go for adoption, let family have the option to be the ones adopting.

Which is what Lois and Gloria did. Gio was adopted by a close friend and when she died, Lois and Gloria took over taking care of him. They essentially adopted Gio without giving anyone else in the family, including Brook Lynn, to know who he is.

Lois's lack of grace toward Tracy was just really terrible because she did exactly what Tracy was talking about. Leave the child with family. Lois didn't give up her grandson. She knew the person who raised him and he grew up around her, surrounded with family.

Lois can miss me with her all encompassing Q hatred when she actually brought the child to live with them now that he's an adult.

5 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

The speed of this drugged Drew story has me thinking it's more of a means to an end. Like are those blood tests going to reveal Drew has a different blood type than Jason and thus isn't really Drew? Because I am more and more convinced that is where we are headed.

Good. Anything to get Scout away from this shambling, grotesque mess of a past mid-life crisis man.

[GHScorpiosRule]

9 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Did you see Carly today telling Lulu she had no right to tell Dante Brook Lynn's secret and that she, Michael and Jason were happy as a family until Robin ruined it? That Robin and Jason's relationship was forever changed after she told AJ the truth?

I did! And how did lightning not strike her foul mouth DEAD?! First, Cujo did all she could to make things difficult for Jason and Robin, moving into Brenda's cottage and playing the damsel in distress and needing Jason's attention 24/7.

Second, Robin broke up with Jason and THEN went to AJ and told him-reasons were twofold-because AJ had a right to know and to STICK it to Cujo. 

This beast lied to Tony, telling him that her spawn was his, when she knew it was most likely AJ's. And what did she do to her friend, AJ? Got him drunk (I think) and made him think he'd fallen off the wagon again. I can't remember if she showed up at Jason's door because Tony kicked her out or what.

9 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

It seemed like in a roundabout way, Lulu reminded Carly of when she went to Jason and berated him to go be a father to Jake. 

Not just that, but berating her for keeping the secret. She asked her outright-did she think she could keep that a secret? My favorite line was: "AJ HAD A RIGHT TO KNOW!"  So Cujo can just SHUT IT.

9 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I was greatly amused that Carly is still bitter that playing the "my/our son Michael" card didn't ultimately win her Jason's heart. 

Hee! I know! Because instead of turning to her harpy ass, he fell in love with Elizabeth. And she tried to ruin that as well, but it didn't work. And she ended up boinking Mooby. And here we are.

I hope Brad brings Portia down. Bint, he wouldn't have had anything to blackmail you with if you hadn't messed with Heather's test results. So she can miss me with her holier than thou whining how it was Brad's fault he was blackmailing her. So she set him up. Where is Teresa in all this? Show is acting as if Portia is the full and not co-Chief of Staff.

I'd like to also say I'm shocked that this whole Drew thing seems to have absolved him so quickly, but I'm not. At one point, as Nina was whining to Willow (sorry, but Watros's voice just sounds whining when she's trying to convince Willow in that "urgent" voice speak), that she would blurt out that Drew was boinking her around the same time he was sniffing around Willow.

Way to be there for your brother, Danny. Asking Gio if he's got everything covered? Okay, Immagohometomyroomnow, mmkay?

YAY! Lucky today! Boo! Again with that Deranged One.

 

 

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Good to know that in spite of her ~amazing life that 30 years on down the road Carly is still bitter she didn't bag Jason with the "Michael card."  

That cracked me up. Talk about holding a grudge! I admire a grudge, but this one is a bit much. Jason is still at her beck and call. Not getting together is probably the thing that's kept both of them alive. You know if they'd been any sort of long-term couple, at least one of them would have ended up dead. Very belated ETA: Dead by the other's hand.

14 hours ago, statsgirl said:

But if you're going to go for adoption, let family have the option to be the ones adopting.

Getting the kid away from family is one reason to put up a kid for adoption, though. And depending on how the child was conceived, being in such close proximity might be damaging to the mom. It's complicated.

13 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Joss has not asked a single question about this mission.

Didn't Brennan specifically tell her all she needed to know was that it was important? I remember some lecture about sometimes she wouldn't get any information and she'd have to trust him that whatever the mission was was important.

Edited 23 hours ago by dubbel zout

[rur]

I think I'm a little bit more team Lois on this issue. After she and Ned broke up, she was persona non grata to the Q's. When Brook Lynn was born, it was Brenda Barrett who brought the child to the Q mansion so Lila could see her great grand baby. And, to the best of my memory, we never heard anything else about Lois or Brook Lynn until the teen Brook Lynn sneaked into town and was hiding in the Q's boat shed and Ned gave his "I know you're here" speech to a seemingly empty room. 

So I can understand her decision to support her teenage daughter's decision to give the baby up for adoption. I'm wavering a bit more on not letting her father know, but Tracy's behavior today would certainly help me decide not telling the Q's was the right choice. I never heard Tracy say anything about loving or nurturing the child. She talked about Q money and, essentially, possession. Good for Lois saying she supported her daughter's decision. 

 

**I'm still not believing that Lois and Olivia were such good buddies growing up. Brenda was in high school with Robin. Brenda and Lois were besties, so they had to be pretty close in age when they founded L&B records. Sonny would probably be at least 10 years older than Robin, and Sonny got Olivia pregnant, so Olivia must be approximately the same age as Sonny. How come she and Lois are the same age now, writers? 

 

10 hours ago, ByaNose said:

 

I know Lulu and Carly are related but I didn’t need Carly inserted into the Lulu and Dante scenes. Doesn’t Laura Wright (who I like) have enough to do? Good lord!

Exactly where were Lulu and Dante that Carly could just open the door and barge in without knocking? 

21 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

 

Didn't Brennan specifically tell her all she needed to know was that it was important? I remember some lecture about sometimes she wouldn't get any information and she'd have to trust him that whatever the mission was was important.

In other words, the writers haven't thought that far ahead yet. 

[dubbel zout]

16 minutes ago, rur said:

Sonny got Olivia pregnant, so Olivia must be approximately the same age as Sonny.

IIRC, Olivia was 15/16 when she got pregnant, and Sonny was in his early 20s.

You can't do RL ages on soaps because kids are always being SORASed, and age is basically a plot point anyway.

[Lugal]

18 hours ago, ljr said:

So port Charles has a beach, piers, esplanade,  and long winding country roads

And don't forget the river that borders Pennsylvania!