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12 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Well, the space did have a name tag helpfully bolted to the wall, as all security-conscious buildings do.

I love how PC is this giant city, yet nobody has to drive anywhere because all locations are about a block apart. (No wonder Kristina has never seen Ava’s car! Or her sister’s father’s car!) But on the rare occasion someone does get behind the wheel, they can’t get from point A to B without first driving down some deserted country road. Preferably in the middle of the night.

I would love to see a map of this illogical wormhole of a town.

I’ve often said GH exists in a tiny pocket universe.  It seems normal to them, but it really isn’t.  There was a Star Trek Next Generation episode like that.  It keep shrinking til on,y Doctor Crusher and Picard were left on the Enterprise and Picard didn’t question how two people could run a vessel designed for a crew complement of over a thousand people.

this also explains why a huge hospital has maybe a few dozen people working there.  Same with the PCPD.  And that accounting for swing and shifts.

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Elizabeth being rushed to the hospital unconscious, bleeding from the head and nose while Lucky is scared, holding back tears was hard to watch. JJ's "I'm so pissed I want to beat someone to death" look worked well in this situation, LOL. No trip to NYC since she needs surgery for a broken leg. Lucky tearfully professing his love woke her up. Swoon!

Meanwhile, Ric is critical. Kristina has the audacity to go with Molly and Cody to the hospital and then hug her. Ugh that Kristina looks more scared than guilt stricken while her sister hears what Ric needs. And the "oops" look on her face upon hearing from Lucky that Elizabeth was his passenger, so gross. I hope Lucky tells the police Kristina told him she cut the lines!!

The best (not deadly serious moment) was Alexis' "Are you F-ing kidding me!!" look at Drew when he joyfully announced that Willow and her children were moving in with him and Scout. I kinda wish she slapped him when he said he was telling her as a courtesy, because he's already decided (ie, doesn't care that she misses her brother - Wiley gets to be her new brother). The look on his face when he heard Monica beat him regarding the crypt was funny, though.

Good use of Robin and Emma's history with Edward and Alan, in the nuEmma-Anna scene.

 

 

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On 3/29/2025 at 10:25 AM, absnow54 said:

Grad school? Kid is old enough to be a tenured professor!

And perhaps he will be in the next two or three years.  And perhaps Dean or university president a year or two after that.  About the same time Joss becomes Port Charles WSB station chief.

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1 hour ago, MarciNJ said:

not to mention, what if Avery had been in the car with Ava?

Call me ruthless, but when I read this I said (aloud, to my living room) "she SHOULD have been, that would be awesome!"

Injuring (or killing, I'd go for it, kill the kid off) her little sister would be a far harsher and more dramatic consequence for Kristina than Ric and Elizabeth.

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On 3/28/2025 at 6:39 PM, Artsda said:

So the plan was to just bulldoze the crypt and decimate remains? Disgusting and what political people would say this is good idea?

Maxie daily scene of giving advice. 

Ava so quick to use her child for money, it's pathetic. She doesn't care at all about her daughter or her safety. 

Wow Sasha. Blaming Holly not Sidwell because she took the evil money but wouldn't take anyone elses. Pushing Maxie to do business with Sidwell. 

 

Bulldozing the crypt with the bodies still present would be a crime.  More realistically, this would all okay out through a series of boring court hearing s, over a period of YEARS.  Also, an individual city councilman and a US representative would hac enough involvement up in the proceedings.

 

Show has the dumbest writers in the entertainment industry.  How is this allowed to continue?

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3 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I hope Lucky tells the police Kristina told him she cut the lines!!

He should do that no matter what. Don't tell her to get back to Charlie's and sneak in through the back entrance. Kristina should be charged with attempted murder. It doesn't matter that Ric and Elizabeth weren't supposed to get hurt. 

Tracy, your nephew is also in that crypt, but I guess he doesn't deserve a mention because he was fat.

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In an otherwise fairly descent episode, Jason and Sonny stood out like a sore thumb. They were not needed in this episode (or ever).

The Emma actress is actually pretty decent and her scenes with Anna were pretty good. 

Yuri: Go limp, Ms. Tracy!

Eat shit, Drew. Trying to shop a replacement for the daughter you claim to love and want to cave the crypt over family members while wanting to retain their name. Go get your head shrinked.

So what is Lucky going to do with the information he has about Kristina?

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19 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Tracy, your nephew is also in that crypt, but I guess he doesn't deserve a mention because he was fat.

I thought she spoke of her parents and Alan because of their financial and medical contributions to Port Charles, especially the hospital, in the past - not because she was trying to dis A.J. 

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Soliski is dead. Are we getting a crossover with Law & Order: Toronto? They are both on CITY TV. Maybe Young & Munroe can pursue Sonny and Jason to Port Charles and finally catch them.

I'm impressed how quickly Lucky protected Kristina and told her to pretend that she never was there. Luke's son for sure. But now that he knows Elizabeth got hurt ...

I like that Emma called out Anna. About time.  It's ironic that Emma brought up Robin's HIV because AIDS is about to get worse now that USAID is no longer providing treatment or prevention.

Poor Alexis is having a bad day. Drew was being a pooh head around Scout, who he's using as an object to get Willow, and then having to go to the hospital for Molly. I did like the line about not trying out a new family like trying out a tie. And there is no way that 6 year old Wylie and baby Amelia are in any way a replacement for Danny and Rocco any more than Willow is for Sam. What would be best for Scout is to stay with the Quartermaines with Danny and Rocco for as long as Lulu let's him but Drew needs her to reel Willow in.

GH timeline: At Ava's presumably after leaving Alexis' office, Rick tells her that he just made a truce with Alexis and doesn't want to spoil it by Kristina finding him there. At Charlie's Molly told Kristina that the truce has been on for a couple of days now. Where did those days slip in?

 

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14 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

But on the rare occasion someone does get behind the wheel, they can’t get from point A to B without first driving down some deserted country road. Preferably in the middle of the night.

I would love to see a map of this illogical wormhole of a town.

Haha! This is similar to a complaint I have about Grey's Anatomy, where they apparently think that downtown Seattle is surrounded by lightly populated wooded areas and winding country roads. On that show, driving from the airport to the hospital is a very iffy thing, not the highway drive that it is IRL. 

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48 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

He should do that no matter what. Don't tell her to get back to Charlie's and sneak in through the back entrance. Kristina should be charged with attempted murder. It doesn't matter that Ric and Elizabeth weren't supposed to get hurt. 

Tracy, your nephew is also in that crypt, but I guess he doesn't deserve a mention because he was fat.

(My emphasis above)

If Kristina had an ounce of self-awareness, she'd realize that she's more responsible for this accident and any repercussions than Ava was with the window fall. Just because the wrong person was injured, it doesn't mean you aren't guilty.

Also, Lucky should feel like an idiot for telling Kristina to flee the scene, now that he knows that she caused the accident that injured Elizabeth (and Ric, but I doubt that Lucky is too distraught about him).

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32 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I thought [Tracy] spoke of her parents and Alan because of their financial and medical contributions to Port Charles, especially the hospital, in the past - not because she was trying to dis A.J. 

She did, but it always annoys me how AJ is ignored. She could have said something like, 'My family has always been deeply involved with Port Charles, my father blah blah blah..." I guess that's what happens when the show never really developed AJ past the family screw up who also was fat.

I hope Lucky remembers to call Aidan, at least, and tell him his mother is in the hospital. That would have been more useful than harassing Isaiah while he was trying to work on Elizabeth.

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1 hour ago, Melgaypet said:

Call me ruthless, but when I read this I said (aloud, to my living room) "she SHOULD have been, that would be awesome!"

Injuring (or killing, I'd go for it, kill the kid off) her little sister would be a far harsher and more dramatic consequence for Kristina than Ric and Elizabeth.

i was thinking the same thing. It would destroy Ava losing another child, but Avery is one of those kids who quite frankly shouldn't exist, it would also hurt Sonny which I'm always for, and maybe it would stick to Kristina's skull that what happened to her was a freaking accident and she should have channeled her inner Elsa and let it all go. 

You know. I am all for evil Drew. I don't know why he's going after the Crypt bcause that's a bit creepy but it's good to just have. a "i'm not a gun slinging, murdering piece piece of poop. I'm just stupidly self  righteous and selfish, piece of poop" which is somewhat nice and soapy.  

Honestly Alexis should sue for custody (as this show tends to do every 5 seconds with kids) because Drew isnt; thinking about Scout at all. I could legit see Scout flat out telling him she hates Willow and the kids and Drew going "oh just give it more time.). 

when Drew found out that Monica made it so Drew had to use Caine and not Quatermaine and that face


(what did Emma call Anna out on)?

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Wow--the show ended under three hours ago and there are already a boatload of comments!  Especially after a cliffhanger Friday, it seems that they have strung two engaging episodes together for the first time in a long time.

Still, I'm glad we're not in a cliffhanger about Elizabeth.  For me, today's Lucky seemed more like the Lucky of long ago than anything I've seen in the interim, and I welcome him back.  Loved that Liz awakened to his declaration.

Another first for me was liking Emma. She rightly called Anna out, and rightly called on Robin's history to defend her actions at the crypt.  I liked thinking that Robin had shared so much of her early life with her daughter.  Hope Emma has jarred something loose in Anna.

Poor Alexis has so much on her plate.  Scout and Drew.  Molly and Rick.  And she doesn't even yet know that her other surviving daughter has acted on her murderous vengeance over an accidental death.

I'm with whoever said the Sonny/Jason scenes were a drag.  I thought the show should have just given over their scene on the plane to another commercial, where they could at least have made some money.

And....who called Ava?

 

34 minutes ago, Daisy said:

(what did Emma call Anna out on)?

Emma called her out on having lost her sense of altruism and wanting to make the world a better place.  Essentially, that Anna has lost her fire.  Emma's right.

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2 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

The way the legal system, hospital, police department, and government work on GH is so Scooby Doo, I don't even try to make it make sense. I did, however, spend a few moments trying to understand Diane's hair today. 

Her hair has been different for a while now.  When it first changed, I thought it was a wig, and I was worried about the actress. I guess it could still be a wig, but she seems to be wearing the same 'do in another series (I forget what) she's in simultaneously.  

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27 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Honestly Alexis should sue for custody (as this show tends to do every 5 seconds with kids) because Drew isnt; thinking about Scout at all. I could legit see Scout flat out telling him she hates Willow and the kids and Drew going "oh just give it more time.). 

This would be a custody fight I could actually get behind, because it's not about using the kid as a weapon, as Sonny always does. Alexis genuinely wants what's right for her granddaughter.

15 minutes ago, JMO said:

I'm with whoever said the Sonny/Jason scenes were a drag. 

They were so, so boring, though it was UCG that Selisky falls on his head hard enough to be killed, and later Sonny's all, "Eh, self-defense." And then Sonny and Jason argue a bit over his dumb surgery. I DON'T CARE.

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29 minutes ago, JMO said:

Another first for me was liking Emma. She rightly called Anna out, and rightly called on Robin's history to defend her actions at the crypt.  I liked thinking that Robin had shared so much of her early life with her daughter.  Hope Emma has jarred something loose in Anna.

Those were some really good scenes. And for the first time with NuEmma, I think I can take the character seriously. Before, it felt like she was scamming people with her charity and jumping into causes without thinking about them first

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i’mmajustgonna hand wave the remark that Lucky fell in love with Elizabeth the first time he saw her, because we all know he was infatuated with Sarah. Because….

OMGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Loving I Love You GIF
 

In Love Hearts GIF by The Valentines
 

The emotion-packed words of love-JJ ROCKED it and had me misting up! 
 

And  now, the rest—

DAMN YOU, LUCKY!!!! You should have RIPPED into Kristina!!!!

No words for how she sat there with a straight face, looking at Molly, knowing what she had done. And you twaddletwat, I’ve heard NOTHING but threats and asking Jaysus and Mooby to kill Ava, so you can MISS ME with the “please don’t be Ava, please don’t be Ava” when you FUCKING CUT the brake lines.

For once,  liked NuEmma. She gave Anna the smack down she needed. And Anna can also MISS me with those tears for not being there for Robin. I loved the callback to Alan telling Robin she was HIV+ and how Edward saved wee Emma.

No lie, I cackled at Yuri telling Tracy to “go limp!” Like two year olds do!😂😂😂

And I chortled with GLEE🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 as Drew’s face fell when Boyle told him MONICA stopped the demo. Oh, and Drew? Why do you act like you have a choice to be in Port Charles? You don’t work in the private sector anymore. Your ASS SHOULD be in DC. Otherwise resign. 

And it’s AMAZING that Boyle doesn’t care his behavior and churlishness went viral for ALL to see and CONTINUED to insult Tracy and argued with Diane!

Are the previews for Wednesday? Since tomorrow Show is celebrating 62 years? I don’t wanna see Mooby, but Steve, Jessie, Alan, Rick, Noah, Laura, Scotty, Luke, Lucky, Elizabeth, OG Emily, Monica, Lesley, Tony, Bobbie, Frisco, OG Edward, Lila, Robin, Stone, AJ, Robert, Sean, Tiffany…

And I also want a HORSIE.


 

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35 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

i’mmajustgonna hand wave the remark that Lucky fell in love with Elizabeth the first time he saw her, because we all know he was infatuated with Sarah. Because….

OMGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Loving I Love You GIF
 

In Love Hearts GIF by The Valentines
 

The emotion-packed words of love-JJ ROCKED it and had me misting up! 

DAMN YOU, LUCKY!!!! You should have RIPPED into Kristina!!!!

Your reaction to the Elizabeth and Lucky scenes is adorable, lol.

I don't agree that he should have ripped into Kristina in this episode.  He was focused on waiting for news of Elizabeth's condition and he could see Molly's fear over her father's condition. While they're both in this state of mind, ripping into Kristina (when police are not yet present) would only make things worse/more painful for Molly and Kristina the wild card could leave the hospital. Then who knows where she'd go and what she would do.  Former police officer Lucky knows this. He was one of the police officers involved when teenage Kristina got beaten up by Kiefer and she blamed his brother, Ethan. Kristina could turn around and accuse Ava of cutting her attorney Ric's brake lines because she was mad a) he parked in her spot and b) wants full custody of Avery yet Ric hasn't achieved that for her. 

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9 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

OMG Jane Elliot is my hero! Being picked up and carried away while her legs were still crossed like that was a thing of beauty. 

Amazing.  She must do yoga.

I also, for the first time in forever, enjoyed Diane today.  I loved her "awful name" comment about Boyle and her message from Monica to Tracy.  And, yes, really liked the Emma/Anna scenes (and mentioning Alan it makes me want to go search out the scenes she was referring to about Alan telling Robin she had HIV).

Kristina needs to be jailed.  FFS, Lucky, no coddling (though I have a hunch that's exactly what's going to happen).  

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15 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

and mentioning Alan it makes me want to go search out the scenes she was referring to about Alan telling Robin she had HIV).

I remember those scenes and both Stuart and Kimberly were so very good. Alan, dreading having to tell Robin and being so gentle with her , and Robin’s denial.

I feel like going down that Rabbit Hole!

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4 minutes ago, Daisy said:

So. Lucky is going to tell the cops, and by Cops I mean Mac because Mac will do his damn job and throw the book at Kristina that Kristina cut the breaks, right?

because my list of the people on this show that I hate is pretty long but I don't mind writing Lucky's name on there  too. 

We have to keep in mind who’s “writing” this dreck. If we had Sri Rao or the writers of 30 odd years ago, there would be nuance. But since Kristina is Mooby’s spawn, even if she is girl child, she’ll totally skate on this. 

So nothing will make me hate Lucky. Especially not JJ’s Lucky!

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Aww NuEmma made me a little teary today with her speech. I'mma blame that on a.) the history callback and b.) perimenopause.  

Wouldn't Cody have been 86'd from Charlie's for punching out the bartender? I've known people who have gotten banned from bars for far less (although granted they weren't characters on a soap opera with limited amounts of sets).  

Lucky needs to prioritize Liz and not keep Kristina's secret mainly because I'm enjoying L&L2 redux and it's one of the few things I do enjoy on this show and I don't want to see it blown to hell.  Plus did Dum Dum even bother looking to see if there were security cams in the garage?  Also, she would have had her phone on her so GPS would show she wasn't in the stock room at Charlie's all day (why yes, I have been doing a rewatch of L&O SVU lately!) 

Glad this crypt storyline has come to a conclusion since it was unbelievably gross. Now let's get JE in some good stories (and by good stories I don't mean the Gio reveal).  I would really love if they could bring in big sister Skye to meet and then promptly wipe the floor with Drew. One of her more redeeming qualities is she's never given a bucket of turds about Jason so I'm pretty sure she would absolutely loathe Drew.  Plus Lila Rae would be the right age group for the younger set and bring more Q's onto the canvas.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

We have to keep in mind who’s “writing” this dreck. If we had Sri Rao or the writers of 30 odd years ago, there would be nuance. But since Kristina is Mooby’s spawn, even if she is girl child, she’ll totally skate on this. 

So nothing will make me hate Lucky. Especially not JJ’s Lucky!

that's fair, and i know you won't that's fine. 
 

I'm usually fair. I'm not going to just say it's bad writing and excuse it. if Lucky knows what caused the accident and says nothing that makes him scummy in my book and he'd be on the list. dunno how long he'd be on the list for, but he'd be on the list.  if the redemption ark was good then he'd be off it. but that would be for like everyone. just being consistent. 

 

(but like he'd be nearer to the bottom. I'm not a Fan of JJ's lucky. but yeah it's not his fault  at the end of the day)

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9 hours ago, KittyQ said:

(My emphasis above)

If Kristina had an ounce of self-awareness, she'd realize that she's more responsible for this accident and any repercussions than Ava was with the window fall. Just because the wrong person was injured, it doesn't mean you aren't guilty.

Also, Lucky should feel like an idiot for telling Kristina to flee the scene, now that he knows that she caused the accident that injured Elizabeth (and Ric, but I doubt that Lucky is too distraught about him).

Kristina’s delusional lack of accountability mirrors her father’s.  Both constantly make excuses and try to prop up the other’s bad shitty/criminal behavior.

That’s when the word ‘co-dependent’ went through my head.  Is that wrong?

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Why would Lucky want to keep Kristina’s secret? He doesn’t owe her anything that I know of. Unless, he’s so threatened by Ric’s and Elizabeth’s friendship. Which is a big leap. 

If they kill off Ric I am so done with the show. Granted it was a present that they brought him back but he has so many connections to the characters and Rick Hearst is acting his ass off. That said, I’ve always thought it was weird that Hearst and Bernard have had very little interaction. The scenes between Ric and Sonny have been minimal. It’s almost like Bernard told FV that it’s probably best for the two of them not to work together this go around because I (Bernard) sucks. LOL!!!!

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9 hours ago, TVbitch said:

The way the legal system, hospital, police department, and government work on GH is so Scooby Doo, I don't even try to make it make sense. I did, however, spend a few moments trying to understand Diane's hair today. 

I want to appear on GH and lecture the characters about how things actually work……

 

6 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

i’mmajustgonna hand wave the remark that Lucky fell in love with Elizabeth the first time he saw her, because we all know he was infatuated with Sarah. Because….

OMGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Loving I Love You GIF
 

In Love Hearts GIF by The Valentines
 

The emotion-packed words of love-JJ ROCKED it and had me misting up! 
 

And  now, the rest—

DAMN YOU, LUCKY!!!! You should have RIPPED into Kristina!!!!

No words for how she sat there with a straight face, looking at Molly, knowing what she had done. And you twaddletwat, I’ve heard NOTHING but threats and asking Jaysus and Mooby to kill Ava, so you can MISS ME with the “please don’t be Ava, please don’t be Ava” when you FUCKING CUT the brake lines.

For once,  liked NuEmma. She gave Anna the smack down she needed. And Anna can also MISS me with those tears for not being there for Robin. I loved the callback to Alan telling Robin she was HIV+ and how Edward saved wee Emma.

No lie, I cackled at Yuri telling Tracy to “go limp!” Like two year olds do!😂😂😂

And I chortled with GLEE🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 as Drew’s face fell when Boyle told him MONICA stopped the demo. Oh, and Drew? Why do you act like you have a choice to be in Port Charles? You don’t work in the private sector anymore. Your ASS SHOULD be in DC. Otherwise resign. 

And it’s AMAZING that Boyle doesn’t care his behavior and churlishness went viral for ALL to see and CONTINUED to insult Tracy and argued with Diane!

Are the previews for Wednesday? Since tomorrow Show is celebrating 62 years? I don’t wanna see Mooby, but Steve, Jessie, Alan, Rick, Noah, Laura, Scotty, Luke, Lucky, Elizabeth, OG Emily, Monica, Lesley, Tony, Bobbie, Frisco, OG Edward, Lila, Robin, Stone, AJ, Robert, Sean, Tiffany…

And I also want a HORSIE.


 

Scotty?  Just where the Hell IS Scotty?  He got kidnapped months ago and no one appears to have noticed his absence

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Eh. I don’t need Lucky to turn Kristina in. I don’t think that really helps anybody. I need him to blackmail her ass into therapy. 
 

I came back to GH for JJ and LnL2. I love them. They still sparkle but this has been far, far, far too easy without Lucky and Elizabeth doing the work so if Liz finds out Lucky is holding onto this secret it gives them a place to go with them examining who Lucky is and what choices she’s comfortable with him making l I’m here for that. 

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6 hours ago, ByaNose said:

That said, I’ve always thought it was weird that Hearst and Bernard have had very little interaction. The scenes between Ric and Sonny have been minimal. It’s almost like Bernard told FV that it’s probably best for the two of them not to work together this go around because I (Bernard) sucks. LOL!!!!

and Hearst is better looking and aging well

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6 hours ago, bybrandy said:

I came back to GH for JJ and LnL2. I love them. They still sparkle but this has been far, far, far too easy without Lucky and Elizabeth doing the work

Color me stupid, but I am confused about what this means. Others have also stated it's "been too easy" and I just don't get it. Is Lucky supposed to wear a hair shirt forever? It's not like he showed up and said "Honey! I'm HOME! Let's pick up from where we left off when last we were married!"

If Show had bothered to give us dialogue that he did see his kids over the years, instead of turning him into a deadbeat dad so FRANCO , the SERIAL KILLER, was the best option, I wouldn't feel like defending Lucky all the time.

He's been taking his cues from Elizabeth, and it's been months. He hasn't assumed anything, even though it's clear Lucky is still very much in love with Elizabeth. When he saved her from Cyrus, I think that's when Elizabeth decided-Life is short, and she also still loves him. So I'm more than thrilled Lucky finally told her he still loves her. Now whether she heard him, that's another thing.

I'm just enjoying them sparkle together and seeing even more flashbacks-something I didn't think I'd see. And which makes sense to use since it's the same actors! No need to refilm and use filters!

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14 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And you twaddletwat, I’ve heard NOTHING but threats and asking Jaysus and Mooby to kill Ava, so you can MISS ME with the “please don’t be Ava, please don’t be Ava” when you FUCKING CUT the brake lines.

It's not that Kristina doesn't want Ava dead, it's that she doesn't want Ava dead by her hand.

11 hours ago, sashabear21 said:

Aww NuEmma made me a little teary today with her speech.

Braedyn Bruner put some nuance into that speech, which made me realize one of the things I haven't liked about nuEmma is her mostly flat affect all the time.

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

He's been taking his cues from Elizabeth, and it's been months. He hasn't assumed anything, even though it's clear Lucky is still very much in love with Elizabeth

Which has made for rather boring watching, IMO. I appreciate that Lucky knows he can't expect life to pick up where it left off, but waiting for Elizabeth to give him cues is very passive. Those two need something more to do than dance around their feelings. Lucky telling Elizabeth ILY in the hospital was rather meh for me. There was never any doubt, so it wasn't any grand revelation.

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3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Color me stupid, but I am confused about what this means. Others have also stated it's "been too easy" and I just don't get it. Is Lucky supposed to wear a hair shirt forever? It's not like he showed up and said "Honey! I'm HOME! Let's pick up from where we left off when last we were married!"

If Show had bothered to give us dialogue that he did see his kids over the years, instead of turning him into a deadbeat dad so FRANCO , the SERIAL KILLER, was the best option, I wouldn't feel like defending Lucky all the time.

He's been taking his cues from Elizabeth, and it's been months. He hasn't assumed anything, even though it's clear Lucky is still very much in love with Elizabeth. When he saved her from Cyrus, I think that's when Elizabeth decided-Life is short, and she also still loves him. So I'm more than thrilled Lucky finally told her he still loves her. Now whether she heard him, that's another thing.

I'm just enjoying them sparkle together and seeing even more flashbacks-something I didn't think I'd see. And which makes sense to use since it's the same actors! No need to refilm and use filters!

I'm one of the people who has been underwhelmed by the lead up, and I'll try to explain why.  Liz and Lucky have history together, and history apart. I expected the latter to be visited in conversation between them.  Something about Franco, and the fact that Liz had a functional marriage with him in spite of the craziness, and the boys a functional father.  Or Finn, and the fact that they were engaged.  The kinds of things one puts on the table before moving more deeply into a relationship.  Even if they were planning to remain in the friend zone, I would have expected them to talk these things through. 

They're not the kids they were, and while I love revisiting those kids, it's not the kid version of them who will be in relationship this time.  It's the adult version, and I would have liked to see them get to know each other more deeply as adults. Yes, it's been months, but much of that time JJ was off screen, and most of their on screen togetherness has been about reminiscing.

I think you're right about what each of them is thinking, but I also think the writers should be addressing it.  Leaving all of the work to the fans is lazy.   

Just my two cents.  I still enjoy them, was just expecting more.

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31 minutes ago, JMO said:

I expected the latter to be visited in conversation between them.  Something about Franco, and the fact that Liz had a functional marriage with him in spite of the craziness, and the boys a functional father.  Or Finn, and the fact that they were engaged.  The kinds of things one puts on the table before moving more deeply into a relationship.

That was never going to happen under the current show runner and writers.

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"A contentious relationship"... So that's what you call it when a man murders a woman's son. Hunh. Live and learn.

I thought this episode was supposed to be a tribute to Monica, not Sonny.

Oh, and Show? Mac took care of Robin. Sonny's the one who puts his loved ones in danger.

This show...  It's gonna give me an ulcer, I'm tellin' ya.

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While I love that GF was the lead character on the GH Anniversary show and she looked gorgeous, the Show ruined it with featuring Sonny prominently starting with the opening shot of him joining Laura overlooking the hospital. I don't care that he's the anonymous donor!

Moments that made me tear up:

-Laura and Alexis talking about Sam and Lulu, and that lovely hug

-Felicia talking to Donna about her Grandma Bobbie, in front of JZ's photo on The Wall

-Tracy and Ned talking about Edward and Alan in front of The Wall. It looked to me like both actors had tears in their eyes.

-Tracy and Stella talking about family in front of The Wall.

-Lucy/Lynn Herring getting choked up about Stone Cates and other friends lost to AIDS, as she told Sidwell about the Nurse's Ball. 

-Maxie talking to the nurses, Stella and her mom about how the hospital takes care of her kids.

The tearful scene of Anna and Sonny talking about Robin and Stone should have been Anna and Mac. I hate that even Curtis and nurse Amy got more on-screen time than Mac Scorpio. But at least he was there. NuLucas, a doctor in the hospital and son of a deceased doctor and nurse at the hospital, who has known Monica all his life, was not featured nor mentioned! I thought maybe Brook Lynn would have a cameo with her dad and grandmother, but nope. No mention of Head Nurse Elizabeth Baldwin getting excellent care in the hospital right now. 

No mention of Monica's children or grandchildren either (except Michael when Sonny and Carly talked in the chapel).

 

 

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Sonny: "I had a lot of conversations with God in this chapel."  Me: They didn't seem to do any good, did they?

I hate that so much of this episode is Sonny propping.

On that note, is the Nurse's Ball the whitewashing mechanism of the show? First it was Sonny, now Sidwell is going to underwrite it.

There are hundreds of nurses in a hospital the size of GH. How did Maxie afford all those gift bags?

I'm glad that Monica got the new wing named after her but with Leslie Charlson gone, I'm wondering how long Monica is going to be up in her room off-screen. I have an image of a mummified Monica lying on her bed while family members visit and talk to her.

Seeing Lila's picture on the wall reminded me that I saw Anna Lee last week opposite Boris Karloff in Bedlam. She was good. This show really done her wrong.

9 hours ago, ljr said:

I don’t understand why people get a ride from others in this show? How did they get to where they are?

Liz said that she was going to take a ride share because Aiden has her car. Is he old enough for a driver's license?  (This is something that really bugs me, that everyone on the show, no matter how wealthy e.g. Joss, always takes ride shares. What about the taxi drivers who have invested thousands of dollars into the taxi ticket and are just trying to make a living? In my city a taxi license used to cost $360,000 (a large investment by the taxi owner), now it's a quarter of that and taxi drivers are struggling.)

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I know this is slightly off topic pertaining to today's show, but in regards to Lulu finding out Brook Lynn's secret kid and my stance on it: if Robin had found out about Michael in the same matter, I would say the same thing about having no right to tell, even though it was wrong for Carly to hide Michael from AJ. 

On to today's show.

1 hour ago, Fellaway said:

"A contentious relationship"... So that's what you call it when a man murders a woman's son. Hunh. Live and learn.

I thought this episode was supposed to be a tribute to Monica, not Sonny.

Oh, and Show? Mac took care of Robin. Sonny's the one who puts his loved ones in danger.

This show...  It's gonna give me an ulcer, I'm tellin' ya.

You know that Sonny and his portrayer MB thinks that Sonny is a super swell guy based on that self satisfied smile I saw him have in a clip from today's show. 

Please tell me Sonny's anonymous donation wasn't to Monica's wing. Please tell it was only updates to Stone's wing or event the Nurse's Ball. I don't want Sonny or Carly anywhere near Monica, even in something named after her, after all the horrible things thye did to her. Neither of them should be there for the unveiling. 

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