Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[nilyank]

So Girl Reporter has decided to retire from being Girl Reporter and decided that she will become Girl Assistant and went to Deception where she proceeded to insult one of the executive, inform another executive that she zero interest in cosmetics and that she had previously had zero interest in fashion but was barely competent when she worked on Crimson.

Then when she finds out that she will Girl Assistant to BLQ, she insists that she could do the job even though she and BLQ has several public physical fights that Chase ended breaking up and arresting people. Lulu does not like BLQ and is not letting go of that. 99% sure that in this new job Lulu is going to find out that Tracy and Sonny share a grandchild together.

Drew continues to make things worse for everyone and we don't know where the kids are.

It sounds like Carly has custody of Avery if she is living there with Carly and Donna.

Cody always a dummy. He is actually leaving a paper trail of his illegal gambling with Selina by giving her a check.

I think that Jordan was interviewing Martin for the job of acting DA. Wouldn't that be a case of nepotism. Ric would be a better and more fun DA.

Sidwell just going around town eating at Bobbie, buying crappy art at Ava's gallery. You would think the WSB and local law enforcement  would have found out he is the newest in PC. Strange how in a town of only 30 people or so, Sidwell has managed to avoid running into all the people who know what he did the last time he was in Port Charles which was after he kidnapped a bunch of PC citizens in Africa.

[Sake614]

26 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Ric would be a better and more fun DA.

I doubt Ric would be interested. And not that it matters in PC but Molly is an assistant DA and it would be awkward for her to work for her father.

[methodwriter85]

3 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Fairly certain it was Spencer after he got burned in the fire at wyndemere and was left with the teeniest, tiniest scar on his cheek but walked around with a phantom of the opera mask on his face while moaning about his appearance. 

ETA I was right. 
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/2015/02/27/shriners-hospital-children-featured-general-hospital-abc/#:~:text=Shriners Hospitals for Children is featured on,Hospitals has been worked into the storyline.

I honestly wish they had done a callback to this story with the adult Spencer by giving him some mild scar and he freaks out and brings back the mask. NAC would have played the absolute hell out of it. *Wistful*

[YaddaYadda]

11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

So now Wiley and Amelia aren't even at the mansion?  Clearly this, and a comment made earlier by Tracy, show this isn't about Monica 'needing the children close' at all.  it's a war between Drew and Tracy and they're both coming off looking awful.

It was implied that Monica has no idea what's going on with the kids. 

Drew and Tracy do look awful, but I hope Tracy grinds him into dust. 

I actually hate Drew more than I hate Carly right now. Go figure.

Edited Saturday at 12:26 PM by YaddaYadda

[rur]

15 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I’d think Michael would want to stay closer to his family but I’m equally sure Carly will walk out of his room and tell everyone he agreed to go to Germany, no matter what he says to her. And no one will know because she’s the only one in the room.

That was my first thought.

I would think that Portia or some other medical professional would have gone into the room with her in order to monitor his condition as well as be a witness to his decision, for legal reasons if nothing else. "Only one person is the room" is the rule for visitors, not doctors and nurses. 

So I guess we know that Carly is going to lie

Edited Saturday at 04:07 PM by rur

[Daisy]

Okay so the children went away I don't know to get ice cream or something so Tracy legit goes, they aren't here and instead of asking WHERE THEY ARE Drew's like "arrest Tracy?"

and I simply have to say, Drew, if you honestly thought you were ever going to win against Tracy Angelica Quatermaine, I have my popcorn ready when you realize that will never happen. 

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

Okay so the children went away I don't know to get ice cream or something so Tracy legit goes, they aren't here and instead of asking WHERE THEY ARE Drew's like "arrest Tracy?"

and I simply have to say, Drew, if you honestly thought you were ever going to win against Tracy Angelica Quatermaine, I have my popcorn ready when you realize that will never happen. 

He did ask where they were and Tracy giggled and said she "hadn't the foggiest."  Honestly, they're both awful in this sitch and the only reason Drew is worse is because he purports to love Willow but is still using her kids.

[dubbel zout]

16 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Though "I'll be with him all the time" from Carly about Michael being in Germany--don't threaten me with a good time, show.

I know! That's one of the cruelest lines we've heard in a long time.

[Melgaypet]

Eh, I'm not mad at Tracy. Do I think she's morally correct in this situation? No, but I also don't care. See, show, I can be hypocritical and inconsistent, too! Let her tell Carly and Drew to fuck all they way off. Those fictional, unnecessary children are fine.

Edited Saturday at 05:49 PM by Melgaypet

[Daisy]

22 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

He did ask where they were and Tracy giggled and said she "hadn't the foggiest."  Honestly, they're both awful in this sitch and the only reason Drew is worse is because he purports to love Willow but is still using her kids.

no but that's what i mean.
He asked where they were and Tracy is like I don't know, haven't the foggiest. and instead of like pushing  - or even going "so you're saying that the Nanny just left and didn't tell you?" it was like oh okay book'em. it was just so fast. 

Just now, Melgaypet said:

Eh, I'm not mad at Tracy. Do I think she's morally correct in this situation? No, but I also don't. Let her tell Carly and Drew to fuck all they way off. Those fictional, unnecessary children are fine.

i guess it's more of being consistent. baby hoarding is baby hoarding even if it's to try to give Monica peace of mind in this case. my thing is basically, Tracy does have a very valid point (even though she's leaning more on the Monica angle) as in - if you're ONLY doing this to give Willow back her kids. [and i just have to imagine what the poor judge is thinking what with this back and forth injunctions] - to soothe her soul whose to say she won't continue to do this later. (ala Carly). it seems to me she's basically trying to take the blackmail pieces out of play and screw Drew and give Monica some peace of mind. 

[dubbel zout]

5 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Drew and Tracy do look awful, but I hope Tracy grinds him into dust. 

I actually hate Drew more than I hate Carly right now. Go figure.

Same on both.

1 minute ago, Daisy said:

it was like oh okay book'em. it was just so fast. 

Tracy wouldn't have handed over the kids even if they were at the mansion. She'd have been arrested no matter what. That was the point of Drew showing up with his goon squad.

[Mirabelle]

31 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I know! That's one of the cruelest lines we've heard in a long time.

Remember how Laura was with Lulu when her liver was deteriorating? Carly will be like that 1000x.

"You're a FIGHTER, Michael. You are brave, strong AND true and you have a PURE heart and you have always done achieved EVERYTHING you 've set out to do so I know you can REGENERATE your FACE AND BODY! I believe in you. You CAN do this. I KNOW you can."

[YaddaYadda]

56 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I know! That's one of the cruelest lines we've heard in a long time.

You know the clinic will kick her out within the first 24 hours of her being there, demanding things and throwing her weight around and calling Jack to rescue her.

This isn't Port Charles, Fräulein.

[GHScorpiosRule]

When did Drew become the police commissioner that the keystone cops do his bidding? And I noticed that there were two unis, but no social worker day player like they had when Chase showed up at Nina’s.

And I’ve just given up on this show not even  trying to portray how things work in the law l, business world, and now politics. Yes Congress isn’t in session yet, but Drew’s ASS should be in DC right now.

And excuuuuuuuse me, NUnuLooloo-you DID NOT find your spawn Charlotte-she reached out to Rocco-who clued your selfish ass in. I swear, she acts as if Charlotte is her only child, and threw in Rocco’s name as as afterthought when telling Maxie about finding a place for all of them.

And like I’ve posted up thread-I don’t CARE that Tracy has no rights or say-I’m loving her calling out Mooby and Cujo for FILTH. I just wish that when Chase was sermonizing how Wiley and Amelia belonged with their mother-she threw in his face that HE was the one who was part of the brigade that took them away from her.

[sashabear21]

Wait, so Sidwell, the same guy who kidnapped and nearly killed the Police Commissioner, Port Charles's sainted hitman, and the prodigal son of the mayor is just prancing around town not even using an alias? I can buy Ava being out of the loop, but we had scenes where Anna told Felicia everything that went down with Sidwell and the Lucky rescue (leaving out the gross bits with Jason) and we're supposed to believe that at no time did Felicia or no one else let anything slip to town gossip Lucy? The local WSB doesn't even have him on their radar? I mean I know their local bureau chief is trying desperately to get a game of hide the salami going with Carly, but I still can't believe he's that derelict in his duties! 

Oh goody, looks like we're in for more sniping between BLQ and Lulu. I'll be fast forwarded those scenes in favor of watching the commercials for Skyrizi that Hulu plays every 5 minutes.  Although I could watch Cody sniping at Drew all day! 

I have a hard time believing that even a hospital as questionable as GH would wake up a heavily sedated patient in severe pain and on heavy pain medication to ask them if they wanted to go to Baltimore or Germany.  

 

[statsgirl]

1 hour ago, sashabear21 said:

I have a hard time believing that even a hospital as questionable as GH would wake up a heavily sedated patient in severe pain and on heavy pain medication to ask them if they wanted to go to Baltimore or Germany. 

Maybe they wanted to give CD a few Emmy reel scenes before he leaves. I think that it would have been better drama with a discussion among the four about how they wish they could wake up Michael to ask him but that would be irresponsible so here is what they have to consider. But it's TFGH.

That's interesting about how many people in the US use cheques.  And I guess Cody giving a cheque to Brad in front of Lukas wouldn't have been so obvious without it.

[dubbel zout]

9 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I think that it would have been better drama with a discussion among the four about how they wish they could wake up Michael to ask him but that would be irresponsible so here is what they have to consider.

What's the point of Willow having Michael's medical proxy if they're going to wake him up and ask him what he wants? This fakakta show.

[DanaK]

26 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

What's the point of Willow having Michael's medical proxy if they're going to wake him up and ask him what he wants? This fakakta show.

I didn’t understand why Willow gave in to Carly’s wishes on Germany so easily. Baltimore is way closer

[ByaNose]

19 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

I'm sorry to hear about Marcus Coloma, and wish him well! Technically, the "current" Nikolas is Adam Huss, I guess. I just wish they'd get him back on the show. 

What happened to Marcus Coloma?

[Auntie Velvet]

18 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

What happened to Marcus Coloma?

Sorry, I guess I didn't respond directly to @ciarra. She was referencing this:

https://soaps.sheknows.com/general-hospital/news/752624/what-happeend-to-marcus-coloma-heart-surgery/

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, DanaK said:

I didn’t understand why Willow gave in to Carly’s wishes on Germany so easily. Baltimore is way closer

Willow didn't really give in; they all decided to wake up Michael and let him tell them where he wants to go. Which will be Germany, of course, but it's being framed as Michael's choice, not Willow's.

[Cheyanne11]

53 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Willow didn't really give in; they all decided to wake up Michael and let him tell them where he wants to go. Which will be Germany, of course, but it's being framed as Michael's choice, not Willow's.

Which in reality will be Carly's choice.  I mean, Michael gives in to her when he's not in horrific pain, so...

[FilmTVGeek80]

8 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And like I’ve posted up thread-I don’t CARE that Tracy has no rights or say-I’m loving her calling out Mooby and Cujo for FILTH. I just wish that when Chase was sermonizing how Wiley and Amelia belonged with their mother-she threw in his face that HE was the one who was part of the brigade that took them away from her.

He wasn't sermonizing to her. He was trying to talk to her like a rational adult - which Tracy is so far from being right now. Chase went to Nina's house to take the kids in his position as an officer of the court. It wasn't personal or because he believes Willow shouldn't have her kids. 

Like the scenes with Sonny, I wish I could have enjoyed the scenes between Tracy and Carly the way I would have under other circumstances. They were still somewhat enjoyable getting to see Carly lose for once and at least Tracy wasn't asking someone to murder her nephew. But, I still can't enjoy Tracy right now because she is being such an entitled, raging hypocrite. She's claiming to do all this for Monica and yet she hasn't even talked about this with Monica - so she's basically using Monica as cover. And for her to stand there and talk about Willow being too irresponsible to have her kids. Didn't Tracy barely even raise Ned? She's the last person to act like she's in any position to judge anyone else's fitness as a mother.

Party of one, but I enjoyed Drew walking in with the cops and using his position to have Tracy arrested. If she had just given back the kids she has no business keeping hostage that wouldn't have happened. All week whenever people have pointed out she doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to custody she dismissed it and dared anyone to arrest her. I'm glad someone called her bluff. 

 I think Tracy wasn't around for a lot of the beginning of the baby Michael custody saga, but I found it kind of funny how Martin was talking about Tracy knowing how to use the court system and how the Qs are so powerful because I don't remember that power being used in the custody fight for Michael. 

[ByaNose]

Random but why is MB called mooby?

[methodwriter85]

3 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Random but why is MB called mooby?

Man boobs Mobster. I remember reading that all the way back to early/mid-2000's Television  Without Pity.

Edited Sunday at 10:32 AM by methodwriter85

[DanaK]

Program Reminder: No episode Monday due to Inauguration coverage

[KittenPokerCheater]

I’m always on Team Tracey.  Anyone who tells off Sonny and means it and doesn’t  retract their statement/forgive him  is a hero/ine in my book.  I’m a little down in the dumps these days, so I like anyone who will call a Spade a Spade and call people out for what they are.

Also:  I just learned Mooby is short for Mobster.  I thought it was a dig at maybe Sonny having…well…man-boobs (not sure else how to say it). 

[ljr]

How many years can they drag this Avery custody story?  They should just age that kid already

[tessaray]

1 hour ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

Also:  I just learned Mooby is short for Mobster.  I thought it was a dig at maybe Sonny having…well…man-boobs (not sure else how to say it). 

It was definitely both, as @methodwriter85 says above. (At one point he spent a lot of time boxing at his gym.)

[30 Helens]

Why does it even matter where Michael gets his burn care, when it’s obvious that he has no burns to heal? Somehow, his amazing Teflon face managed to ward off any damage despite being engulfed in flames, so why should I think the rest of his body was any different? I don’t get why the makeup department didn’t even try to sell it with a few wax patches. As it stands, Carly should just send Michael to the nearest day spa for a cucumber facial.

In light of Leslie Charleston’s death, I’m not loving how the show is using Monica to manipulate story. Monica can’t bear to part with her great-grandchildren? Bullshit. The Monica we know would advocate for those children to be in the best possible situation for them, with no regard for her own personal feelings. And Jason siding with Monica over Sonny? Also bullshit. This is just setting up Jason to be the prodigal son who gains redemption in the wake of Monica’s death. Totally unearned.

Adding to the list of total bullshit, BLQ + Dante = nada. Never happened. Who is this story for, people who just started watching in the last few years? (AKA people who don’t exist.) Because the rest of us have memories, and there isn’t enough eternal sunshine of the spotless mind to erase the timeline we already know. (Also, how was Dante supposed to penetrate BLQ’s camp attire of triple-knit burqa bathing suits, which were no doubt covered with a Kevlar sarong?)

Despite being initially impressed, I’m quickly growing weary of NuLuLu Girl Detective. Her singular focus on Charlotte is really disrespectful and dismissive of the one child who actually missed her. I’m looking forward to the day when Rocco tells her to fuck off and re-coma.

I’m torn on the new incarnation of Willow. The old version was a vanilla snooze who needed to grow a spine, but so far the new Willow is just a spunky puppet. I also don’t like how everyone has suddenly decided that Willow’s entire personality revolves around being a damsel in distress. I mean, it’s an accurate assessment, but all characters (including Willow herself) waking up to this realization at the exact same time is some decidedly clunky writing.

 

[rur]

6 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I also don’t like how everyone has suddenly decided that Willow’s entire personality revolves around being a damsel in distress. I mean, it’s an accurate assessment, but all characters (including Willow herself) waking up to this realization at the exact same time is some decidedly clunky writing.

 

While trying to come up with ideas, one of the writers accidentally found this site. 

[Mirabelle]

8 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

 

Adding to the list of total bullshit, BLQ + Dante = nada. Never happened. Who is this story for, people who just started watching in the last few years? (AKA people who don’t exist.) Because the rest of us have memories, and there isn’t enough eternal sunshine of the spotless mind to erase the timeline we already know. (Also, how was Dante supposed to penetrate BLQ’s camp attire of triple-knit burqa bathing suits, which were no doubt covered with a Kevlar sarong?)

This story is to give Gio a purpose on the show. Instead of coming up with a story to serve the characters they have, someone (I presume Valenti) creates a character and figures out the story later. They're going to make Fetch happen even if it makes little sense given what we know of Dante, Brooklyn, and Cody. It's possible to bring on a new character and create ties to the canvas organically but this show prefers to take shortcuts so they make everyone related to someone else. 

 

[dubbel zout]

8 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

In light of Leslie Charleston’s death, I’m not loving how the show is using Monica to manipulate story.

Even if LC were still with us, using Monica to manipulate story is gross. As you wrote, @30 Helens, Monica would want her great-grandchildren to be in the best situation for them. Willow hasn't ever shown that she wouldn't let the Qs see the kids as often as possible. It's so idiotic that wanting her kids to be with her while their father is gravely ill in a burn unit is somehow OMG TEH EVUL!1! Ugh. Spare me.

8 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

It's possible to bring on a new character and create ties to the canvas organically but this show prefers to take shortcuts so they make everyone related to someone else. 

What always amazes me is that making everyone related to someone else doesn't make the character any more solid. I feel like Isaiah is more established than Gio, and Isaiah hasn't been crammed down our throats the way Gio has.

This fakakta show.

Edited 10 hours ago by dubbel zout
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[30 Helens]

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

What always amazes me is that making everyone related to someone else doesn't make the character any more solid. I feel like Isaiah is more established than Gio, and Isaiah hasn't been crammed down our throats the way Gio has.

They’re just biding their time before letting us know that Isaiah is the secret spawn of Stella and Hatman.

[jsbt]

8 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

What always amazes me is that making everyone related to someone else doesn't make the character any more solid. I feel like Isaiah is more established than Gio, and Isaiah hasn't been crammed down our throats the way Gio has.

Unfortunately they've foisted the deathless cyborg upon him, because the people of color must all be bundled together. I'd rather have seen Isaiah with Lucas (though I'm still not convinced they shouldn't recast him again).

I would argue Gio has been far less crammed in recent months. He was a veritable dayplayer for awhile, and Mazza's natural charm ended up shining through more as a result IMO. That made him somewhat less of a spare part to me, though he certainly still resembles one and his upcoming story is likely to be a real mess. But I don't dislike the actor. I blame the material and previously lack thereof.

I am just marking time til they insist on bringing on one of the Gannon brothers from OLTL for Isaiah, which will wear me out.

16 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I also don’t like how everyone has suddenly decided that Willow’s entire personality revolves around being a damsel in distress. I mean, it’s an accurate assessment, but all characters (including Willow herself) waking up to this realization at the exact same time is some decidedly clunky writing.

My take is the same as the one I had last week: Better late than never. This story had been drained of all character nuance in the fall up until that point.

Edited 2 hours ago by jsbt