DCC-fan94 March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 (edited) On 3/6/2020 at 11:06 AM, kalibean said: Bridget, Caroline and Amber are all super lovely, amazing dancers, but that would be the most girl next door triangle of all time. They all take fantastic pictures (especially Caroline, IMO) but it wouldn't be as visually interesting to anyone except those of us that are super into the dancing itself. I think Caroline is just pretty, and has good technique but she isnt good as Queen Bridget, Gina aor Amber... she is not as powerful as those three, its the same with Rachel W, she was just in the triangle bc of her pretty face, but she is not powerful. My dream Triangle would be: ❤️ BRENNAN!! ❤️ idc idc idc idc idc Bridget Gina Daphne Amber Jalyn Lets not forget about our girl Jalyn T_T Edited March 8, 2020 by DCC-fan94 2 Link to comment
dccstar7 March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 7:31 PM, CrazyEve said: When has Kelli ever been "fair" when it came to VK 🙂 Ummm.....IMHO...like NEVER been been fair with VK! And as bad as I hate to say it---some is VK"s fault...but shoving her down our throats for 2yrs has done VK NO favors! As I've stated before I do not know VK as a person, and actually had a high school bff that wore makeup like this&teases hair 100% of the time, lots ppl didn't like her even tho she was mostly a genuine person. Now idk if VK is or not, but this favortism is OFF the charts&I have lots if close friends (like as TK is to KF) but it pains me that TK pushes the VK even more and KF goes right along! IMO it is only hurting VK! But who knows, I guess KF & co. Need a storyline &what better that having someone we all (mostly) love to hate! Ratings! I believe alot of it is all about the cold hard cash at the end of the day, regardless of who it hurts! I would actually love to see more 2nd yrs and gets alike, as some vets are rarely EVER featured! On 3/5/2020 at 12:22 PM, mizzhyer said: I really like Maddie...but I think she needs to remember Kelli's suggestion from her first time in TC..."just a nice pleasant smile will do". She does not look gangsta/tough/hip hop in any of them. I agree on maddie's facials, they are hair too much! 3 Link to comment
scorpio1031 March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Holly85 said: This is how Kat should have looked all along! The others look good as well. 1 21 Link to comment
dccstar7 March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 (edited) On 3/5/2020 at 5:13 PM, cgloss said: I hope there are quite a few cuts. Not to be mean, but this squad could use some serious shaking up. Was that the podcast with Kashara? I didn't listen, but I couldn't figure out why she would even be on. I agree! I feel like several vets may retire or at least consider it... Some I will hate to see leave, others I may yawn at. And yes, the squad needs some shaking up! I've always wondered (highly unlikely) what it would be like if over half the squad decided to leave due to the VK (and possibly meredith)favortism?? (Meredith made alot of mistakes but the VK nepotism is off the chain)--Not being mean, just curious. Most of these gals works their butts off to be on the team! But hey, I'd rather know I'd earned my place vs. A 'given'...I know I come across as awful at times, but it IS the truth! Edited March 8, 2020 by dccstar7 7 Link to comment
dccstar7 March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 (edited) On 3/6/2020 at 5:05 PM, LRCH said: Mine is on Rachel W. ☺️ Me too! I know alot of people say Rachel W.has a vacant stare, etc. But I personally think she is so beautiful and cannot take a bad photo! Such a pretty girl &for most part has been semi flying under the radar--which I think is a good thing! #girlcrush Edited March 8, 2020 by dccstar7 7 Link to comment
LynneH March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, dccstar7 said: I agree! I feel like several versions may retire or at least consider it... Some I will hate to see leave, others I may yawn at. And yes, the squad needs some shaking up! I've always wondered (highly unlikely) what it would be like if over half the squad decided to leave due to the nepotism??? Not being mean, just curious. Most of these gals works their butta off to be on the team! But hey, I'd rather know I'd earned mybolqce vs. A 'given'...I know I come across as awful at times, but it IS the truth! I'm not sure if they need a "shake up" or not. Do I want to see some go, you betcha, however, You need a "base" of 36 women that can do the DCC style on the field for games, even if they don't do it that great. Then of those 36 you need 16 or so more specialized/technical dancers for show group. Then you also need 10-15 "ambassadors" that are photogenic yet also have the ability to talk to media or "socialize" with the general public or with high society at specialized events. It's very hard to find 36 people who can fit those different criteria which is why you have the "blenders" that are on the team year after year as they may not be the "best" performing DCC, but they are good for selling calendars or as ambassadors for the charity and other events. At least that's my 2 cents. 3 7 Link to comment
dccstar7 March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 8:17 AM, evasworld123 said: Amanda’s move/look at the very end absolutely slays. Hope she continues to shine next season. Also enjoyed Heather in this! Regarding the recent Evan Miller video, VK looks great but she’s front and center.. again 🙄 Amanda looks good & lexie is da bomb in this!!! 5 Link to comment
dccstar7 March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 21 hours ago, EricaShadows said: I think Meredith is likely a one-and-done and won't survive Auditions. In the past, the majority of Kelli's girl-crushes (gymnast Kat, Breelan, Morgan, etc.) were cut once they showed they hadn't improved over the past year. Kelsey L. survived to year 2 because she improved and had been working hard. Kelsey L. is the only one of Kelli's girl-crushes that I can think of that made it to her second year, but are there others? I think Meredith will be gone, Kat will be cut due to being a MAJOR ambassador risk (and she'd better hope for a miracle between now and auditions) and I suspect Lily will be the third rookie cut. Kat seems to think that she'll be on the squad next year and I want to see her face if she gets cut. She just may be the one to spill the tea if she gets cut. You are so right about KF's girl crushes (e.g. Morgan,etc)..it is like she is enamored with them then after year 1 KF is over it. Let's just hope so on the meredith thing. Yes, I think Meredith is a pretty girl ¬ the worst dancer ever(not far behind tho)...if history repeats itself, I believe ur right that she will be a one and done.. Ive heard alot on these boards about how she maybe tied to the Jones family&gossip runs rampant here, but, hey i DO believe there is 'something's about her other than a KF girl crush... As far as Kat goes--she is so pretty but yes a major major ambassador risk! (KF would've laid into anyone else that called a news anchor 'baby' as she did on media training day) and as for that tea, I do believe Kat would be one (if cut) to spill that tea like crazy! 1 Link to comment
dccstar7 March 8, 2020 Share March 8, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 1:12 PM, PepperM said: Okay y’all I’m literally obsessed with this video - I want to learn this choreo!! It seems like so much fun and the ladies clearly had a blast working on it. That said - it was so unfair to put Lily and Meredith next to Lexie in small groups. Next to no pop or “boss” attitude whereas Lexie was slaying it. I was pleasantly surprised by how well Rachel W adapted to this style; it doesn’t feel like her kind of combo but she killed it. Kristin too. I hope we get more videos out of this class because I’d love to see some of the groups do the whole thing. Love this video too! Also lexie was on fiyah!!! And rachel w (one of my faves) stepped up and looked great! Love all the girls in this! 3 Link to comment
tinabee1967 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 Who is confirmed retiring besides Molly? Link to comment
scorpio1031 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, tinabee1967 said: Who is confirmed retiring besides Molly? Amy and Heather Link to comment
Holly85 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, tinabee1967 said: Who is confirmed retiring besides Molly? Amy heather with someone who said also Christina and Bridget but them two haven’t actually posted if they are Link to comment
Lona March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said: Amy and Heather Still not sure about Heather and have never seen any evidence it's confirmed????? Though given how they treated her with the leaked photos I wouldn't blame her! 1 Link to comment
Holly85 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lona said: Still not sure about Heather and have never seen any evidence it's confirmed????? Though given how they treated her with the leaked photos I wouldn't blame her! I’ve told her on Twitter I would miss seeing her on the sidelines this next season and she said thank you !! She almost didn’t come for her 4th year 2 4 Link to comment
Blue hues March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCCFanatic82 said: It's kinda funny how this is one of two group photos that were never shared - the other being Amy's (unless I've missed it). I know Maddie's and Heather's are out there. One of the few photos in which VK is in back! Not loving Tess’ orGina’s cup overfloweth look. Looks almost painful. 3 Link to comment
scorpio1031 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, DCCFanatic82 said: It's kinda funny how this is one of two group photos that were never shared - the other being Amy's (unless I've missed it). I know Maddie's and Heather's are out there. If Tess and Taylor could just switch places🤣 5 Link to comment
Holly85 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, DCCFanatic82 said: It's kinda funny how this is one of two group photos that were never shared - the other being Amy's (unless I've missed it). I know Maddie's and Heather's are out there. Never seen one of these shots of Amy’s group I’ve seen this one of Amy’s 2 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said: If Tess and Taylor could just switch places🤣 Or Gina and Molly. 22 minutes ago, Holly85 said: Never seen one of these shots of Amy’s group I’ve seen this one of Amy’s The angle on this has Caroline’s legs looking like a little kids. I thjnk her look is boring as a graham cracker but she has perfect legs. Who picked this pic? 1 Link to comment
Holly85 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, UnicornKicksBack said: Or Gina and Molly. The angle on this has Caroline’s legs looking like a little kids. I thjnk her look is boring as a graham cracker but she has perfect legs. Who picked this pic? This was from Amy’s ig Link to comment
Blue hues March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, UnicornKicksBack said: Or Gina and Molly. The angle on this has Caroline’s legs looking like a little kids. I thjnk her look is boring as a graham cracker but she has perfect legs. Who picked this pic? If that’s savannah on the far left, the photo doesn’t do anything for her legs either. Awkward photos all around. Tess looks like a lollipop (big head/hair on skinny body) and VK looks like she is blending. 1 Link to comment
DCC-UK March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 10 hours ago, LynneH said: I'm not sure if they need a "shake up" or not. Do I want to see some go, you betcha, however, You need a "base" of 36 women that can do the DCC style on the field for games, even if they don't do it that great. Then of those 36 you need 16 or so more specialized/technical dancers for show group. Then you also need 10-15 "ambassadors" that are photogenic yet also have the ability to talk to media or "socialize" with the general public or with high society at specialized events. It's very hard to find 36 people who can fit those different criteria which is why you have the "blenders" that are on the team year after year as they may not be the "best" performing DCC, but they are good for selling calendars or as ambassadors for the charity and other events. At least that's my 2 cents. This is how I feel about the likes of Miranda and Alexis. Good in the DCC style but not incredible, nor do they have the best technique in other styles, yet they are great for appearances and as ambassadors. Plus Alexis is very photogenic too. 1 2 Link to comment
mizzhyer March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 Honestly, I don't want to see any vets cut. I may not care for some of them...but that doesn't mean I want them cut. Now if they get some rock star rookie candidates, then there are a few who should definitely be stepping up their game (Kat, Lily, Meredith). Based on the videos that are being posted by some potential auditioners, I don't think they will be in too much danger. The danger for vets is going to come from the dancers they have recruited. If some of the girls I've seen in these dance competitions come to auditions, then it's going to be game on. 6 hours ago, UnicornKicksBack said: Or Gina and Molly. The angle on this has Caroline’s legs looking like a little kids. I thjnk her look is boring as a graham cracker but she has perfect legs. Who picked this pic? Miranda needs to quit hunching down...she needs to stand tall and proud. I agree on the angle making them look weird. 2 Link to comment
mizzhyer March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, DCCFanatic82 said: It's kinda funny how this is one of two group photos that were never shared - the other being Amy's (unless I've missed it). I know Maddie's and Heather's are out there. I keep forgetting how gorgeous Taylor is....Brennan is body goals for me!! Gina looks good ...but I agree...Kat, Gina, and Tess have the cups overflowing look and it looks painful to me. Edited March 9, 2020 by mizzhyer 6 Link to comment
mizzhyer March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 (edited) On 3/7/2020 at 12:16 PM, Holly85 said: If Amy is retiring, why do we still have to be subjected to her? I'm just so not a fan of hers. This was also a very boring piece...but none of them have been great so I guess it's just par for course. Edited March 9, 2020 by mizzhyer 2 1 Link to comment
mizzhyer March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 (edited) On 3/7/2020 at 3:28 PM, scorpio1031 said: According to the podcast, that was the original purpose of these videos. KaShara puts the girls in groups depending on the styles they are strong in. She picks out the settings and the music, but the girls do their own choreo. Ok...I'm going to be a Negative Nancy today...as much as I like KaShara...if this DCC In Motion thing is her baby....she could do a better job of putting the groups together. She seems to be focused on a main group of girls and occasionally tosses in an odd one so that they can't say they weren't featured. If the girls do their own choreo...then it's VERY obvious they are not choreographers...even the one who runs her own dance studio. This is some of the most bland and vanilla choreo I've seen (which makes me think Vanilla Amy did the choreo because I doubt there is any way she would let someone else choreograph that piece). Now if I had to vote for some solo DCC In Motion to see: Gina, Amber, Hannah, Ashlee, Kelcey and Amanda. Edited March 9, 2020 by mizzhyer 10 Link to comment
jlc March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, mizzhyer said: This was also a very boring piece...but none of them have been great so I guess it's just par for course. I agree, this was not very good, in my opinion. It looks like they are out of sync a lot, and it was just boring. Sorry everyone that loves it. 1 2 Link to comment
Cowboysfan16 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 I’m confused concerning the DCC in motion videos.. I thought they were intended to be a fun way for different groups of the squad to be able to express the styles they like/love/want to push themselves in? Did Kashara mention something different on the podcast? I haven’t had the chance to listen. Whenever I see one, I immediately think “oh how fun!” and don’t really take them that seriously. I mean this is the first year they’re doing them so all in all, I feel like it’s just another opportunity to see the girls having fun outside of gameday and appearances. Also, did @ShellyB mention that when choosing the groups it depended on the girl’s availability? Because I feel like some of them just don’t have the jobs or time to commit to these videos!! Overall, I love them! I’m glad we get to see different styles, outfits and groups! 🙂 Being that the DCC are a professional group of dancers, we don’t get to see them actually dance enough imo! 15 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 I love the DCC in motion. I finally watched that podcast and Kashara picked the groups trying to shake up things diff than their field groups, more based on styles, who would look interesting together etc. She picks the groups, sites, music and the girls choreograph themselves. It basically comes down to this is a way to use the girls to show off the star. They run them on those screens in the star sort of like a filler between ads if that makes sense. Girls wear their own costumes or stuff people can buy in t pro shops. It’s basically a big product placement commercial. i mean seriously we say we want more non pom dance, and here it is. They’re not spending money for choreographers, they’re trying to sell the Star, clothes, prep classes, etc. more than anything. I think they shot them in the fall and are rolling them all out now. 1 13 Link to comment
Holly85 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, mizzhyer said: Ok...I'm going to be a Negative Nancy today...as much as I like KaShara...if this DCC In Motion thing is her baby....she could do a better job of putting the groups together. She seems to be focused on a main group of girls and occasionally tosses in an odd one so that they can't say they weren't featured. If the girls do their own choreo...then it's VERY obvious they are not choreographers...even the one who runs her own dance studio. This is some of the most bland and vanilla choreo I've seen (which makes me think Vanilla Amy did the choreo because I doubt there is any way she would let someone else choreograph that piece). Now if I had to vote for some solo DCC In Motion to see: Gina, Amber, Hannah, Ashlee, Kelcey and Amanda. I saw amber the other day on her ig story she was filming her solo 4 Link to comment
DCC-UK March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, Holly85 said: I saw amber the other day on her ig story she was filming her solo Legit cannot wait for this one. She'll show up so many others with her technique, grace and power. 2 Link to comment
Holly85 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCC-UK said: Legit cannot wait for this one. She'll show up so many others with her technique, grace and power. It’s a lyrical piece 3 Link to comment
DCC-UK March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Holly85 said: It’s a lyrical piece I know, you can still be powerful in a lyrical or contemporary piece. That's my favourite style and she's a very well-rounded dancer in all styles. 2 Link to comment
Holly85 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, DCC-UK said: I know, you can still be powerful in a lyrical or contemporary piece. That's my favourite style and she's a very well-rounded dancer in all styles. I know she is !! I was just mentioning the style she was doing 3 Link to comment
DCC-UK March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, Holly85 said: I know she is !! I was just mentioning the style she was doing Apologies, I thought you weren't a fan 🙈 Link to comment
mizzhyer March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Holly85 said: I saw amber the other day on her ig story she was filming her solo I can't wait to see that one 🙂 She's a beautiful dancer!! 3 Link to comment
Holly85 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, DCC-UK said: Apologies, I thought you weren't a fan 🙈 It’s ok no I love amber she is great 2 Link to comment
PepperM March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 11:24 AM, madmax84 said: Oh I could so do without those faces Maddie was making in Jen Colvin's video. Who told her they were cute? I just wanna talk... The point really isn’t to be cute, or gangsta or whatever else people are saying. It’s an aggressive song, there’s a curse word in the title for Pete’s sake, so getting aggressive in her style and her facials is 100% warranted. Aggression is also part of krumping, which is the style she was referencing during the part where she starts mean-mugging. She probably learned it in a studio so it’s a more sanitized version, but it’s pretty clear that’s what she’s going for. Re: vets we’d like to see cut, I’ll second the call for Meredith and Kat, and that’s coming from someone who rooted for Kat during the show. Also not a huge Lily or Savannah fan, but could see them staying or going. 6 Link to comment
EricaShadows March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Holly85 said: I saw amber the other day on her ig story she was filming her solo Can’t wait to see this as she’s usually one of the best dancers they have. Her piece should be amazing. 3 hours ago, DCC-UK said: Legit cannot wait for this one. She'll show up so many others with her technique, grace and power. She’d better watch herself then. Not only will she be showing up a lot of the girls on the squad, she’ll be showing up a certain blond legacy and we all know that certain people can’t have that. 3 hours ago, Holly85 said: It’s a lyrical piece Which is probably making that same blond legacy even more nervous. After all, she’s supposed to be the best lyrical performer on the team with leaps and turns to match. She’s also so light on her feet. (For clarity sake, heavy sarcasm and snark in use). Amber is going to make her look even weaker than she already is. 10 Link to comment
Coffeefrog19 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 4:05 PM, Pau84 said: I seem to have Amy-fatigue because I cannot stand to see her anymore. I think she is a great person and all, but I can’t stop thinking: can’t she just leave already? The past 5 years she did not stand out, and when she tried out for the first time I barely took notice. Amy Trader, Megan Carcioppollo and Holly Powell were the rookies that stood out. They should have been point in these past years. There have been DCC’s that were much much much better than Amy, in any department, and that did not make point, and here she is, just point by default, still dancing point, in the front. I definitely have Amy-fatigue. Preach!! 6 Link to comment
DCC-UK March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 5:21 PM, scorpio1031 said: A few days on and I'm still obsessed with this video. It was so great to see super small groups so others could shine. Stand-outs to me were Chandi, Hannah, Cianna, Taylor J, Bridget and Amanda in this style. Lily and Meredith looked a little out of their comfort zone and Rachel W didn't look like she was having that much fun. It definitely wasn't Heather's style either. However, nobody looked really bad, which means at least they're trying! I love to see them trying new styles. I'm surprised this wasn't too sexy for America's Sweethearts though. 11 Link to comment
tinabee1967 March 9, 2020 Share March 9, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, mizzhyer said: If Amy is retiring, why do we still have to be subjected to her? I'm just so not a fan of hers. This was also a very boring piece...but none of them have been great so I guess it's just par for course. Amy does not have the look. She’s just not pretty on camera. I am sure in person she likely looks great. That dance and the song were meh. The shirts around the waist were also goofy looking. Edited March 9, 2020 by tinabee1967 4 Link to comment
dccstar7 March 10, 2020 Share March 10, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, PepperM said: The point really isn’t to be cute, or gangsta or whatever else people are saying. It’s an aggressive song, there’s a curse word in the title for Pete’s sake, so getting aggressive in her style and her facials is 100% warranted. Aggression is also part of krumping, which is the style she was referencing during the part where she starts mean-mugging. She probably learned it in a studio so it’s a more sanitized version, but it’s pretty clear that’s what she’s going for. Re: vets we’d like to see cut, I’ll second the call for Meredith and Kat, and that’s coming from someone who rooted for Kat during the show. Also not a huge Lily or Savannah fan, but could see them staying or going. In the beginning I experienced 'kat overload', but she is a pretty girl... nothing against meredith, but omg come on, no TCC would've EVER been allowed so many mistakes, memory issues,whining,&Kat Dunn level crying x2,etc.)for the duration of the ENTIRE training camp as meredith was, (well minus VK, duh), IDK abt all about these conspiracy theories that float about(family ties to the Jones',etc.&---p.s. I don't necessarily doubt) But definitely there's a reason WHY she was kept other than JUST Kelly's fave IMO)..thoughts anyone as to why meredith has been around so long??? (To each their own,&some may like her alot&that's ok) but something tells me their is sthn weird in Kansas -(a.k a. DFW area) Lol! Maybe one day the mystery will be solved (that is IF there is one) 🙂 Edited March 10, 2020 by dccstar7 Typo error 2 1 Link to comment
mizzhyer March 10, 2020 Share March 10, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, scorpio1031 said: Love Maddie's hair in this !!! Her dance...not so much. You want to see a cool dancer in water? Then watch Moose aka Adam Sevani in the Step Up movies....2 and 3. He has water dances in both! If you're going to dance in water...then get yourself wet...not just your shoes and the hem of your jeans 😉 (and for the record...I like Maddie). https://images.app.goo.gl/i6ZZidp4g2YvVZDq8 Edited March 10, 2020 by mizzhyer 8 Link to comment
UnicornKicksBack March 10, 2020 Share March 10, 2020 Maddie in the mud puddle is dead boring and did she get a boob job or just jack me up to Jesus? 2 Link to comment
JarlenaFan2024 March 10, 2020 Share March 10, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 1:01 AM, Holly85 said: Never seen one of these shots of Amy’s group I’ve seen this one of Amy’s Can someone pls post the 4 group pics and/or point me in the general direction of a previous post of them? Thanks. Link to comment
PrincessLeia March 10, 2020 Share March 10, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 3:08 PM, ByTor said: I love Gina, but this has to be the ugliest top I have ever seen. I can’t get over the white shoes either. So bad. 2 Link to comment
Holly85 March 10, 2020 Share March 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, BluegrassDCCFan said: Can someone pls post the 4 group pics and/or point me in the general direction of a previous post of them? Thanks. 2 Link to comment
go4luca March 10, 2020 Share March 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BluegrassDCCFan said: Can someone pls post the 4 group pics and/or point me in the general direction of a previous post of them? Thanks. Edited March 10, 2020 by go4luca 5 Link to comment
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