Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, Cinnabon said:

You know who really has to hold their pee because they’re so busy and overwhelmed they literally can’t go when they want/need to? Nurses. And factory workers who often get timed and shamed for taking too many or too long bathroom breaks. Carlin can wait a few minutes if necessary. 

And therapists.

[Notabug]

23 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Do we know when their apartment lease is up? Is it the 31st? I thought I read a post of theirs that their new home was being painted when they were in California. It really is a crappy time to be moving. Maybe that's as much of the reason Evan is using FMLA because they have a lot going on between Carlin needing an adult around, the babies and moving.

As far as the symptoms they've shared, the only concern with Carlin being alone is her falling. One person at a time would certainly be enough to care for her and the kids, so maybe Evan can switch off with others between being home with Carlin and getting the new house ready.

As far as having to pee throughout the day, whether in the hospital or at home, Carlin has never indicated she has any bladder issues. Anyone that has attended a sports event, a concert, or visits to a large park knows they may have to hold it a little longer than usual and I see no reason why this would be an issue for Carlin.

And, if she has a bladder issue, there are ways to handle that, too.  There's an entire aisle in the supermarket devoted to products for people who can't hold it.  They can get a bedside commode for not too much money.  I doubt she'd do any of those things, but I also doubt its a big issue for her.

So, she was out of the hospital in less than a day and cleared to travel several hours in the car.  More evidence that the doctors do not seem to think her condition is very serious.

[Cinnabon]

8 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

And therapists.

Yep. 🙂

[emmawoodhouse]

14 minutes ago, Notabug said:

And, if she has a bladder issue, there are ways to handle that, too.  There's an entire aisle in the supermarket devoted to products for people who can't hold it.  They can get a bedside commode for not too much money.  I doubt she'd do any of those things, but I also doubt its a big issue for her.

So, she was out of the hospital in less than a day and cleared to travel several hours in the car.  More evidence that the doctors do not seem to think her condition is very serious.

She went into the ER Saturday night and was just released earlier today, so almost two days hospitalized.

[crimson23]

18 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I come from a pretty tight family and I don't see the Bates' actions (or inactions) as uncaring. What would they be doing other than getting in the way? I just figure they're talking with C & E daily and waiting until she gets home to step up and pitch in.

I am with you on this. We have lots of out of town family. When something happens, the last thing I want is for them to come to help. It just gives us more to worry about. Plus, with covid still lurking, not sure if visitors can come and go. Earlier this year, it was 1 visitor allowed.   Plus, Evan must have his hands full just updating all the family. 

[Cinnabon]

39 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

She went into the ER Saturday night and was just released earlier today, so almost two days hospitalized.

She probably spent most of today waiting for the doctor to fill out all of her discharge paperwork. Every time I’ve been hospitalized, it takes them forever and the last day is spent just waiting around.

[emmawoodhouse]

They just got home around 11 their time. They probably had to go back to the Stewart's to pack (I doubt Evan left Carlin long enough to get their stuff organized once they knew she was being released), then a 3 hour drive. My guess is they left the hospital mid-afternoon.

[65mickey]

I wish the best for them. Hope that some of the Bates will  step up and help with caring for the kids and Carlin during the coming weeks.  But I don't put too much faith in this. Seems like these people are too busy with their own lives than caring about their daughter and sister who is in the middle of a medical crisis. 

[Jeanne222]

Carlin is back on Instagram taping and standing alone!  Sit down Carlin!

They're visiting their new home and seeming back to their normal!  Amazing.

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

Carlin is back on Instagram taping and standing alone!  Sit down Carlin!

They're visiting their new home and seeming back to their normal!  Amazing.

Lol of course they are 🤦‍♀️.

[GeeGolly]

So much for Evan not leaving her side beyond 5'. He wasn't even watching Carlin as she was standing on a concrete floor.

[So unbelievable]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

So much for Evan not leaving her side beyond 5'. He wasn't even watching Carlin as she was standing on a concrete floor.

Right!  What a difference from the vid in the hospital.  Sure doesn't look like he's got the weight of the world on his shoulders now.

[lookeyloo]

Maybe they hydrated her. Maybe she was taking something like plexus to lost the baby weight. Lots we don’t know. 

[Notabug]

7 hours ago, So unbelievable said:

Right!  What a difference from the vid in the hospital.  Sure doesn't look like he's got the weight of the world on his shoulders now.

Nope!  They've moved on to the next story for the 'gram!  I guess they figured they'd gotten as much mileage as they could from 'Carlin's medical mystery' so they've moved on to the next episode 'Our new house'.

[Jeanne222]

34 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Nope!  They've moved on to the next story for the 'gram!  I guess they figured they'd gotten as much mileage as they could from 'Carlin's medical mystery' so they've moved on to the next episode 'Our new house'.

I hope that’s not true. They had so many people caring for them and praying. 

Would this be why no Bates showed up????

[cereality]

WTH happened?? They went from Evan teary in IG videos talking about FMLA leave from work to leaving the inlaws, returning to Knox, getting ONE night's sleep, and they're back to normal w/ Carlin in full makeup promising a house tour next week?

At first it was like ok well they've been away for two+ weeks, it does make sense to go check on the new house given that they own it and if anything has gone wrong, it is their problem; and Evan can't leave Carlin alone so she has to ride along. Then we see Evan playing soccer with Layla - hmm he's suspiciously more than 5 ft away - but ok maybe she's sitting in a chair watching, you can't just make a 2 yr old "rest" for weeks bc mommy needs to. Then it's uh why is she on a concrete patio - can she not sit/stand on the soft grass? And then they go back inside to show the house and again Evan is no where near her. Evan does mention needing to get Carlin's health in order as the reason they'll now keep renting thru June 30. So paying both rent + mortgage while Evan isn't working isn't an obvious concern - and yet at the end Carlin has to show two dozen envelopes to show how overwhelmed they are with bills? While facing the envelopes backwards so we can't see if they really are from the gas or power co. or just random mail. And tech savvy 27 yr old Evan REALLY receives bills in envelopes as opposed to online - does he write paper checks too?

My whole reaction to those stories was WTF is this??

I'm sure they've been told by drs. to live as normal as possible but did they mean THIS normal THIS soon before she's even seen any specialists? 

Added - per Whit, she and Z are headed to the store and meeting C&E there. So they really are back to a normal schedule within a day??

Edited May 25, 2022 by cereality

[BitterApple]

2 hours ago, Notabug said:

Nope!  They've moved on to the next story for the 'gram!  I guess they figured they'd gotten as much mileage as they could from 'Carlin's medical mystery' so they've moved on to the next episode 'Our new house'.

Right?! It's like "Whelp, that's done and dusted. On to new business!." Carlin's medical drama consumed the last of what, two weeks, and now Evan casually mentioned it in passing. Carlin gets a ton of support on social media and even from the snarkers. I wonder if that will change if people start to think they're being played. 

[Peanut6711]

If I was a betting woman, my money would be on this:  There is nothing seriously wrong with Carlin hence how quickly they moved on from Carlin Take a Turn for the Worse to New House Tour. The last ER trip that resulted in an actual hospital stay was probably the ER doc looking at how many times she kept showing up in an ER, decided they were getting to the bottom of it once and for all to quit wasting everyone's time so they admitted her for observation (cheaper insurance wise too), didn't find anything serious while she was in their care for like 48 hours, probably even got a specialist consult during that time, and the verdict was nothing major.  I imagine Carlin had/has some issues, but it's probably nothing like all the drama they've made it out to be. That was probably a mix of her personality and a desire for click bait. 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Peanut6711

[Notabug]

46 minutes ago, Peanut6711 said:

If I was a betting woman, my money would be on this:  There is nothing seriously wrong with Carlin hence how quickly they moved on from Carlin Take a Turn for the Worse to New House Tour. The last ER trip that resulted in an actual hospital stay was probably the ER doc looking at how many times she kept showing up in an ER, decided they were getting to the bottom of it once and for all to quit wasting everyone's time so they admitted her for observation (cheaper insurance wise too), didn't find anything serious while she was in their care for like 48 hours, probably even got a specialist consult during that time, and the verdict was nothing major.  I imagine Carlin had/has some issues, but it's probably nothing like all the drama they've made it out to be. That was probably a mix of her personality and a desire for click bait. 

ER docs call people like Carlin 'frequent fliers' and, if she kept going back to the same ER; complete with entourage in full makeup with camera pointed at her, they may well have decided that admitting her was going to be cheaper and less hassle than having her randomly show up with the rest of the circus when they might be busy with other stuff.  She probably only stayed until Monday because it was a weekend.

I would hope that on Monday, her assigned attending physician or consultant sat down and had a 'Come to Jesus' meeting with them.  Laid out the facts on the table including all of the studies that had been done thus far that were completely negative (which must be all of them or we'd have heard) and told them to stop calling EMS every time she gets the vapors and reminding them that there are actual sick people in the ER and she shouldn't be exposing herself, let alone her tiny newborn, to the germs down there.   There are some other, fairly minor, non-life threatening issues that she made need to be tested for; but that is not happening in the ER and they need to stop using the ER as their set for filming.

[Jeanne222]

Anybody look to see if there’s a GoFundMe account for all those visits?

Carlin holding up all those envelopes made me think of that  

I wonder if people send them money?????

[3 is enough]

Carlin just posted an update on her stories.  They had a doctor’s appointment.  She had an episode while they were with the doctor so he saw what was happening, and is pretty sure she is having seizures.  She has to wear a portable EEG monitor and they are hoping that it catches another seizure so they can find out what is causing them.  They were relieved that she may finally get a diagnosis, there are medications available to control the seizures,  had nothing but praise for the doctor, and oh yeah, it’s their anniversary. Also, no makeup.

Edited May 25, 2022 by 3 is enough

[GeeGolly]

Oh my goodness. The portable EEGs are kind of funny looking. Like wearing Dopey's cap.

[So unbelievable]

Unless they have a different mortgage, the times ones I have had usually have a month or 2 before you have to make the first pay period.  Even if they didn't, I'm sure they'd manage the rent and mortgage with the money they have.  

Her holding up the envelopes like they were bills, well, welcome to the real world cupcake.  Those medical bills are gonna start coming quick.  Not that I believe for a moment they were bills.  Who doesn't have everything set up auto pay and no paper statements?  

[GeeGolly]

I just watched Carlin's IG story. I get being happy to find a treatable problem, but I've never seen anyone so calm and happy when first being diagnosed with some type of serious disorder. Epilepsy/seizures are no joke. I hope they find the right meds and are able to settle into a manageable routine soon.

[crimson23]

35 minutes ago, So unbelievable said:

Her holding up the envelopes like they were bills, well, welcome to the real world cupcake.  Those medical bills are gonna start coming quick.  Not that I believe for a moment they were bills.  Who doesn't have everything set up auto pay and no paper statements?  

Not these days. Covid has bogged down everything.  I was in the hospital last September and have not received one med bill yet.  

[Temperance]

I'm very concerned about Carlin's health situation. I don't think she was overreacting and I don't think it's fake.

I think they went to California, because it seemed less serious then and they're fundies. No fundies like hearing the word "no". 

Since she came back, her condition seemed to be accelerating and fast. She keeps going to the hospital. She has babies so she knows that can be expensive. 

I have had many friends and relatives with health conditions. Here is some thoughts based on being my experience:

1. A friend of mine is dealing with a possible cancer diagnosis. We don't know, because they don't know. He has to go to back to the specialist. My guess is Carlin has an appointment with her specialists and all they can do is either wait for an episode or until they see doctors during a scheduled appointment.

2. Another friend has been dealing with many on-going surgeries. She had seizures, but she doesn't have epilepsy. I forget what she had, but they did a surgery to try to prevent seizures.

3. Many women I know have been told their problems are imaginary or in their heads only to see someone else and find an actual diagnosis.  I don't think anyone knows what is going on with Carlin. It's possible once the hospital ran the tests; they didn't know what to do.  The next step would be to see a specialist who isn't there. 

I wouldn't be filming this, but then I don't film and I wasn't filmed from childhood. Carlin has been on television since childhood when her family was on the Duggars' show.  At this point, youtube/ social media is probably their main form of income. Youtube is unreliable and doesn't pay that well. I'm Evan would rather be working than having his wife so sick. 

[Dehumidifier]

1 hour ago, Temperance said:

3. Many women I know have been told their problems are imaginary or in their heads only to see someone else and find an actual diagnosis.  I don't think anyone knows what is going on with Carlin. It's possible once the hospital ran the tests; they didn't know what to do.  The next step would be to see a specialist who isn't there. 

Yes, it's very disappointing to see that line being taken by so many women here.

Edited May 26, 2022 by Dehumidifier

[AgathaC]

As I posted before, my 9-year-old niece has been having seizures at random times for the past three years. They can’t figure out why they started and despite testing and specialists, there’s no diagnosis. Medication works, thank goodness, but as she gets bigger, they have to keep adjusting the dosage, which means she could have one out of the blue if she outgrows the current dose. It’s frustrating and scary. (Particularly for her. She’s scared of being by herself for anything longer than a quick shower.)

All that to say, they may never really find out what’s going on with Carlin, but hopefully they can find some sort of treatment. She is fortunate she had one with the doctor there. If a doctor can witness an episode, it’s way more valuable than people trying to just give a description. Cuts through the different interpretations, vague descriptions and questions of “is this for real?”

[ozziemom]

Not sure how of the law in Tennessee but when Ozziedad had a seizure, his doctors told him not to drive. We were advised that in Florida the law is 6 months  from last seizure before he could legally drive again. Thankfully once brain tumor was removed he never had another seizure, but he is still hesitant to drive. As a young working mother, that will be tough on Carlin. How far is their new house from the rest of the Bates clan?

[Notabug]

17 minutes ago, ozziemom said:

Not sure how of the law in Tennessee but when Ozziedad had a seizure, his doctors told him not to drive. We were advised that in Florida the law is 6 months  from last seizure before he could legally drive again. Thankfully once brain tumor was removed he never had another seizure, but he is still hesitant to drive. As a young working mother, that will be tough on Carlin. How far is their new house from the rest of the Bates clan?

According  to Tennessee law, the driver must be seizure-free for a year before they can drive again.  If the seizures are under treatment and coming under control and the driver's physician writes a letter to the DMV stating that they are safe to drive; it can be lifted after 6 months.

I suspect Carlin will ignore all of that and keep doing whatever she wants.

[cereality]

I'm not one of the ones that thinks it's fake AT ALL as she got admitted to the hospital. Hospitals are busting at the seams and they make people go home sometimes who need to be there. So no way did she get admitted because she showed up with Evan filming, nor did she get admitted for "vapors." 

I am one of the ones however who is saying WTF are they doing?? I think running off to Cali and being on two 5 hr flights was massively dumb. But even more now WTF?? At his parents' house/in the ER Evan was freaking out, teary, saying he had to stay within 5 ft. They come home and within 12 hrs, they're running to the new house [and the shop though not filmed], wandering the whole house and Evan is no where near her? Part of me wonders if at his parents' house, his parents were the mature adults telling both of them - Evan someone needs to stay right by her, Carlin no you can't carry the baby/go to Sonic/whatever unless someone is with you etc. and now without that mature voice in their ears, both of them are like - whatever.

And then they go to the dr. and Evan and Carlin are SOOOOO happy that she had an episode in front of the dr? I get it - now drs. have seen it and know what to think/test next and there is some relief in that. But to be soooooo happy at what has the potential of still being a rough diagnosis? I mean Evan just seemed 1000% relieved that for this one, a dr. was there to deal with it; didn't see that douchy camera around his neck but I wonder if he just stepped back and started filming since he didn't need to do anything? And in the car Carlin says she's SO HAPPY?

I understand how frustrated/scared they are without a diagnosis, but are they so immature or naive that they don't get that they don't want a serious diagnosis here? I DO think they are really only thinking of this as YouTube $$$. Like they were GLEEFUL in the car in a way adults would not be facing possibly a tough diagnosis and you could tell it was a bit of them adding up the $$ re how many more YT videos this gets them with 100k+ views.

I do wonder if some part of them is just hoping Evan can not work as an electrician or work like super part time like 10 hrs/wk and become fulltime YT stars instead? I mean it'd fulfill Carlin's fundie mission of having a husband home. Evan doesn't come from that type of family but it's not like Carlin hasn't had an influence on him in 6+ yrs and he does fancy himself a star.

And I hope I'm wrong but I do see them flaunting any no driving rules - maybe not right away but after a while. While she's very much acknowledged all the drs/nurses are doing [something her sisters never do - they always thank God for their NICU babies recovering but never drs/nurses], she did seem massively eye rolling in Nashville when she was recounting that she was told not to drive as she was like - "that's annoying, I have kids." Uh your kids are hardly going to school or soccer practice here??  

[GeeGolly]

I hope Carlin doesn't get behind the wheel of the car. It not only puts herself and kids in jeopardy, but also everyone else out on the roads and sidewalks.

[Peanut6711]

3 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

Yes, it's very disappointing to see that line being taken by so many women here.

But in this instance, I don't think it has anything to do with Carlin being a woman that other women are doubting her.  It's the way C&E have presented this that has cast a lot of doubt on the direness of her condition.  And given that C&E make money off their social media views, people are wise to be skeptical of what gets them to click on those links and watch those videos because C&E have a financially vested interest in the whole thing. It's not the same, say for example, as someone's non-reality show aunt posting on FB about a medical ailment that they are facing. Although, I believe one of the doctors on this board had a very informative post about how patients often can't aptly summarize the medical information they've been presented with. But in that case it's probably more nerves and unfamiliarity with the information that leads to patient confusion when they try to process it all and then reconvey it.  That's likely a factor in Carlin's case too, except her and Evan are also thinking about making videos that aren't meant to just convey what's going on to worried family and friends, but also to generate content and keep viewers (strangers) coming back each day.  

I wouldn't disagree that patients (perhaps women especially) don't always have their medical concerns and problems taken seriously.  Personally, I've found it's even worse for a woman with a problem with her car or house to be taken seriously by men in those trades. But I digress. Improving the field of women's health is an important issue, but I don't think that's what is driving the doubts about Carlin. I imagine Lawson would get just as much, if not more, flack if this was him (and probably rightfully so).

[Notabug]

6 minutes ago, cereality said:

I'm not one of the ones that thinks it's fake AT ALL as she got admitted to the hospital. Hospitals are busting at the seams and they make people go home sometimes who need to be there. So no way did she get admitted because she showed up with Evan filming, nor did she get admitted for "vapors." 

I am one of the ones however who is saying WTF are they doing?? I think running off to Cali and being on two 5 hr flights was massively dumb. But even more now WTF?? At his parents' house/in the ER Evan was freaking out, teary, saying he had to stay within 5 ft. They come home and within 12 hrs, they're running to the new house [and the shop though not filmed], wandering the whole house and Evan is no where near her? Part of me wonders if at his parents' house, his parents were the mature adults telling both of them - Evan someone needs to stay right by her, Carlin no you can't carry the baby/go to Sonic/whatever unless someone is with you etc. and now without that mature voice in their ears, both of them are like - whatever.

And then they go to the dr. and Evan and Carlin are SOOOOO happy that she had an episode in front of the dr? I get it - now drs. have seen it and know what to think/test next and there is some relief in that. But to be soooooo happy at what has the potential of still being a rough diagnosis? I mean Evan just seemed 1000% relieved that for this one, a dr. was there to deal with it; didn't see that douchy camera around his neck but I wonder if he just stepped back and started filming since he didn't need to do anything? And in the car Carlin says she's SO HAPPY?

I understand how frustrated/scared they are without a diagnosis, but are they so immature or naive that they don't get that they don't want a serious diagnosis here? I DO think they are really only thinking of this as YouTube $$$. Like they were GLEEFUL in the car in a way adults would not be facing possibly a tough diagnosis and you could tell it was a bit of them adding up the $$ re how many more YT videos this gets them with 100k+ views.

I do wonder if some part of them is just hoping Evan can not work as an electrician or work like super part time like 10 hrs/wk and become fulltime YT stars instead? I mean it'd fulfill Carlin's fundie mission of having a husband home. Evan doesn't come from that type of family but it's not like Carlin hasn't had an influence on him in 6+ yrs and he does fancy himself a star.

And I hope I'm wrong but I do see them flaunting any no driving rules - maybe not right away but after a while. While she's very much acknowledged all the drs/nurses are doing [something her sisters never do - they always thank God for their NICU babies recovering but never drs/nurses], she did seem massively eye rolling in Nashville when she was recounting that she was told not to drive as she was like - "that's annoying, I have kids." Uh your kids are hardly going to school or soccer practice here??  

Hospitals may indeed be busting at the seams, but that doesn't mean that people without serious problems don't get admitted.  Particularly people who repeatedly come to the ER with complaints that could be potentially serious and all the testing the ER can do is not showing a problem.  Especially if they're a couple of You-Tubers who seem more interested in hits on their site than their actual health and especially, if like Carlin and Brandon, they are extremely immature and keep doing dumb stuff despite undoubtedly being warned not to go places or do things that risk injury in case she falls.  Trust me, I'm a doctor, we see it every day.  Plenty of people are admitted through the ER because the docs there are at the end of their rope with them and figure maybe, if they're under observation 1. they won't continue to do the dumb stuff they do at home and 2. they might actually witness an 'episode' so that someone can zero in on the diagnosis as the patient herself is not much help.

I agree, there may be something medical going on with Carlin, but they seem to be more excited about the SM content they're generating than the actual implications of what they may be facing if she does indeed have a significant problem like a seizure disorder.  Like, she should not be driving-at all.  Does anyone really think she isn't?  That she should not be carrying either one of her children-at all.  That she should have another adult in her physical presence virtually 100% of the time.  All of this is common sense and a no brainer for most of us.  

If there's a reason why their social media following hasn't taken her issues seriously, it is because Carlin herself isn't nor is her husband.  They are behaving like a couple of 12 year olds and taking no responsibility and using no common sense.  The fact that they followed a tearful video where they worried about the future and her health with another one that was all about shopping and visiting the new house (with a dash of 'we have so many bills, we need money) is going to make people sceptical.

[andromeda331]

52 minutes ago, Peanut6711 said:

I wouldn't disagree that patients (perhaps women especially) don't always have their medical concerns and problems taken seriously.  Personally, I've found it's even worse for a woman with a problem with her car or house to be taken seriously by men in those trades. But I digress. Improving the field of women's health is an important issue, but I don't think that's what is driving the doubts about Carlin. I imagine Lawson would get just as much, if not more, flack if this was him (and probably rightfully so).

I've had that problem with men and women doctors on two different medical issues. When I was trying to find out why I threw up every three to six months men doctors kept insisting I must be pregnant and women doctors assumed I had the flu.

[GeeGolly]

We are just a bunch of anonymous snarkers. Carlin's health outcomes won't change whether we believe her or not. What matters is if the medical community takes her, and other women, seriously.

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

We are just a bunch of anonymous snarkers. Carlin's health outcomes won't change whether we believe her or not. What matters is if the medical community takes her, and other women, seriously.

And, from what she's told us; it appears she's gotten good care in the ER and is in competent hands with her outpatient doctor.  There certainly hasn't been any delay in getting her the appropriate evaluations or testing.  It's been less than a month since her first episode.  That's practically record speed for a complex problem such as hers.

[emmawoodhouse]

This latest video shows Carlin in the middle of a couple episodes. It's pretty scary.

[Notabug]

52 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

This latest video shows Carlin in the middle of a couple episodes. It's pretty scary.

What the he** is wrong with them?  Talk about desperate for attention!  Anyone think they bothered to ask the EMT's if it was ok to film them and post it online?  Me neither.

[So unbelievable]

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

What the he** is wrong with them?  Talk about desperate for attention!  Anyone think they bothered to ask the EMT's if it was ok to film them and post it online?  Me neither.

It's all about them, no way they asked the EMT's.  

How dare her life be "disrupted" by this.  Can't believe she has the gall to say that.  

[cereality]

Interesting that they drove back from Nashville like Monday-Tuesday and drove back there again like Friday. Carlin mentioned being there yesterday for their nephews kindergarten graduation (and we all know the Bates kids don’t go to actual school) but felt unwell and spent it all in the car and were headed today to some family get together w Carlin saying she hoped she wouldn’t be sitting in the car all day.

She looks unwell and said they’re working out meds + Evan said she’s been so worn out. So why drive back and forth sooo much??? Maybe it’s bc the family support is there so they feel more comfortable at his parents’ home? 

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, cereality said:

Interesting that they drove back from Nashville like Monday-Tuesday and drove back there again like Friday. Carlin mentioned being there yesterday for their nephews kindergarten graduation (and we all know the Bates kids don’t go to actual school) but felt unwell and spent it all in the car and were headed today to some family get together w Carlin saying she hoped she wouldn’t be sitting in the car all day.

She looks unwell and said they’re working out meds + Evan said she’s been so worn out. So why drive back and forth sooo much??? Maybe it’s bc the family support is there so they feel more comfortable at his parents’ home? 

If that's the case, they should go to his parents' home and she, at least, should STAY THERE.  These people have family gatherings for everything, often several times a week.  The non-graduation of a nephew from fake kindergarten does not require their presence.  Last weekend, Carlin was attending the nephew's baseball games, standing on the sidelines, despite knowing she was prone to falling down during one of her episodes.  She shouldn't have gone in the first place, but, since she did, they couldn't have brought one of those folding chairs that every parent of a kid playing T-ball has in their trunk?  Why continue to run around for these mundane, repetitive, unimportant events?  Even if she wasn't having other issues, she just had a baby only 2 months ago.  Have the parents videotape a couple minutes of the pretend graduation ceremony and one of the kid's at-bats and let them watch it online.

It seems to me that Evan's concern for her and her health is more a performance for their followers than actual fact.  He talks about it all the time in their videos and then, off they go, shopping, attending random events for other people's kids and otherwise seemingly trying to see just how far they can push it. I presume that the reason that Carlin sat in the car during the fake graduation was because Evan just HAD to stay and attend it. Most concerned husbands would make a brief appearance just to let the family know that their wife wasn't feeling well and then gone home so she could rest.  Or, you know, maybe ask if Carlin could lie down in one of the beds in their house for a bit.  Making her sit in the car is the opposite of attentive and concerned, IMO. It almost makes me think they're hoping to catch some more 'episodes', ambulance rides and ER trips on camera to keep their numbers up.

Edited May 29, 2022 by Notabug

[crimson23]

the clip where she was in the car acting all loopy.  I had  friend who was having nighty seizures from chemo treatment. That is actually how she acted when coming out of the seizure.  it was eerie. 

The leg pain issue and the rashes and tingling on her legs peaked my interest. I believe that is a circulation and nerve issue.  She did seem swollen too, edema, which sounds like heart issues.

[Peanut6711]

"Caught on Camera" is what you label a video when a politician is filmed taking bribes or a celebrity is cheating on his/her significant other.  But your own medical issues....just tacky and inappropriate. 

[So unbelievable]

Oh I remember being in my early 20's and always wanting to be going out.  Thing was, I was healthy, young, not married yet and didn't have 2 kids to worry about.  So maybe stay your ass at home and rest some.  Or at least get used to how your life is going to be at home now.  Maybe pack a box or 2 for the move.  You can sit on the floor and do that.  If his family doesn't understand them not being their for the "graduation", then eff them.  They saw first hand what she's been dealing with. 

The baby is too young to know anything, but Layla must hate being strapped in the car for hours when she could be at home playing with Izzie or on her swing, anything but being in the car.  Same for Carlin.  I know they want her to try and carry on with her life, but that just doesn't seem feasible at this point.  I'd rather stay at my own home and not drive and then stay in the car.  Wtf!

After seeing a lot of the other sisters at the folks house, I thought her stories would have them going there.  Nope, Bates got the shaft again for the Stewart's.  

[floridamom]

Did they report the condition of Carlin's lower legs to any medical personnel before she was discharged? I seriously think they should have. I found it surprising that Carlin actually believes herself to be an independent person....Independent? Certainly not. Her parents brought her up with a sub standard education, never attended school, didn't develop any real social skills from that; no friends from the 'general public' no work experience, etc.  Then she is suddenly married and 'working' in a sister-owned dress store where you take your children there with you; work basically your own hours,etc. What a joke IMO. Her parents did not prepare her for real life where things like these episodes interrupt life. Marriage would not be a fairy tale prince charming life like they told her God would bless her with. She is not prepared for real life. Sorry to think this. I would be surprised if Evan is not relieved of his new job for never showing up.

[GeeGolly]

The posts above now have me thinking - where is Izzy?

We've been discussing this in the Duggar Fellowship thread as well.  Like I said over there, I go back and forth to what I'm thinking about all this. My latest thought is - I wonder if Carlin had a couple of real fainting episodes, then faked a couple of fainting episodes for the attention and now the attention has gone too far and she can't undo it.

Its kind of odd that she only has seizures when standing and the only time she fell unattended she didn't get a bruise or a scratch.

[BetyBee]

I am not in the medical profession at all, but I think Carlin's issues must be related to giving birth. I keep thinking about a young mother (friend of my good friend) who had swollen legs and a horrid headache at home after giving birth to her son. Her mother was there helping and called an ambulance when the young Mom collapsed after taking a shower. She had been turned away from ER a couple of times, complaining of a headache and very swollen legs. She went into a coma and died several months later. It was so tragic and I'm concerned that something like that is happening to Carlin. Except Carlin's mother is not there helping her! 

[Dehumidifier]

2 hours ago, floridamom said:

Did they report the condition of Carlin's lower legs to any medical personnel before she was discharged? I seriously think they should have. I found it surprising that Carlin actually believes herself to be an independent person....Independent? Certainly not. Her parents brought her up with a sub standard education, never attended school, didn't develop any real social skills from that; no friends from the 'general public' no work experience, etc.  Then she is suddenly married and 'working' in a sister-owned dress store where you take your children there with you; work basically your own hours,etc. What a joke IMO. Her parents did not prepare her for real life where things like these episodes interrupt life. Marriage would not be a fairy tale prince charming life like they told her God would bless her with. She is not prepared for real life. Sorry to think this. I would be surprised if Evan is not relieved of his new job for never showing up.

Is it a new job or a change of status where he was already apprenticing? My impression is that it's the latter.

[SMama]

8 hours ago, So unbelievable said:

After seeing a lot of the other sisters at the folks house, I thought her stories would have them going there.  Nope, Bates got the shaft again for the Stewart's.  

Perhaps they prefer the Stewart’s home because it’s less chaotic, they feel more comfortable, and they help more with the kids. Carlin’s family can see the kids anytime they want, they are a short drive away. Evan’s family have talked about missing the kids and his sisters have cried over not seeing them often. I’d still stay home but can understand. I did not make the best choices at their age either. This is a lot for a young couple, one where both persons are unfortunately rather immature.