2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[go4luca]

34 minutes ago, CrazyEve said:

Oh Hi Kalyssa ..... oh shit sorry Gina didn’t realise it was you. 

Although I don't prefer this photo of Gina (she has had much better, ie: Bimini last year), I wouldn't consider this shot on par with Kalyssa's soft porn.  

[SmpIsimon]

The person who selects these "swimsuits" should be fired.

[Amandared]

Ok the more I read the more I realize I missed. What’s with the Brennan vs VK drama I keep seeing mentioned?

And I remember seeing Madeline get in trouble for moving her locker which she really shouldn’t have done. BUT! Did she move it to get away from VK?

[TUOwl84]

22 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

The person who selects these "swimsuits" should be fired.

I get the feeling it is Judy and Kelli, but mainly Judy?  Not totally sure though.

[MavisL]

11 minutes ago, Amandared said:

Ok the more I read the more I realize I missed. What’s with the Brennan vs VK drama I keep seeing mentioned?

And I remember seeing Madeline get in trouble for moving her locker which she really shouldn’t have done. BUT! Did she move it to get away from VK?

I would move an entire bank of lockers to get away from VK at this point. 

[MavisL]

On 6/29/2019 at 6:19 PM, Kees080 said:

No one has asked for Gina, but I would like to hear everyone's comments on this one?  

I'm not apologizing for thinking this shot is pure fire.

That said, after looking through the swimsuit pics people were kind enough to post here, I can say that the amount of photoshop being utilized is unsettling, jarring almost, since we know what they actually look like.

I can cross "Drop acid and play with Bratz dolls"  off my bucket list, as I believe I've achieved a similar outcome looking at these.

[PrincessLeia]

I love Gina but her facial expression in that pic is definitely not fantastic. 

[AAT]

16 hours ago, SingleMom9 said:

Any guesses on who might be next cut?

Again, this is my opinion, but I just don't think any of the DMD should make it, because clearly, they only tried out because their team is being dismantled. Now if Sheridan came back, I would have wanted her to make it, because she was actually in DCC TC in the past. Some of these girls have been working towards this for years.

[SmpIsimon]

The level of photoshop this year will be nothing compared to next year when they have VK in a swimsuit.  

Edited July 8, 2019 by SmpIsimon

[AAT]

15 hours ago, ATLGirl said:

Wow, a lot went on while I was on vacation...

Most of us know what happened to Olivia S. years ago when she stood up to Cassie at the calendar shoot. Cassie ran to Judy and complained, then all of a sudden Olivia got the “toxic” label and it was over for her.

My guess is when Jaylyn gave VK some critiques to help her, VK ran to Mommy who called Kelli. Thus the “toxic” label was likely applied to Jaylyn, which Kelli shared with the Show Group judges who in response voted her out and voted VK in to soothe her hurt feelings.

I am reading between the lines big time but I get the sense the pressure to vote Jaylyn off was very strong from Kelli.

I think if I were Jaylyn, I’d say “Screw this, life is too short for this crap” and get out of there before she gets cut. Because you know at some point she will be cut to appease the Kalinas. 

I was trying to give VK the benefit of the doubt, but after this, I'm definitely not a fan!!! What an entitled and narcissistic attitude to have!!! I alway try to welcome feedback from anybody. Shouldn't we all strive to be the best version of ourselves??? I guess VK thinks she's already the best. God help her out in the real world. She sure won't be able to run to her mommy. Tina isn't much better. At least VK is only 19, Tina is suppose to be a mature adult. She's just a baby in my opinion. 

[MavisL]

7 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

The level of photoshop this year will be nothing compared to next year when they have VK in a swimsuit.  

[HowdeeDo]

9 minutes ago, AAT said:

Again, this is my opinion, but I just don't think any of the DMD should make it, because clearly, they only tried out because their team is being dismantled. Now if Sheridan came back, I would have wanted her to make it, because she was actually in DCC TC in the past. Some of these girls have been working towards this for years.

I don’t think that’s a fair assessment considering there’s a batch of DMD every year for the last decade. If anything this year I feel the least amount of them tried out compared to previous years. 

[scorpio1031]

40 minutes ago, Amandared said:

Ok the more I read the more I realize I missed. What’s with the Brennan vs VK drama I keep seeing mentioned?

And I remember seeing Madeline get in trouble for moving her locker which she really shouldn’t have done. BUT! Did she move it to get away from VK?

Brennan is VK's boot buddy.

I just re-watched season 13, and Kelli tells Madeline she doesn't care to know the reason why she moved to another locker, so still a mystery.

[hereforthedrama]

1 minute ago, scorpio1031 said:

Brennan is VK's boot buddy.

I just re-watched season 13, and Kelli tells Madeline she doesn't care to know the reason why she moved to another locker, so still a mystery.

It's also rumored that VK overheard Brennan asking something along the lines of "Is it worth it?" which she took back to TK and Kelli, hence why Brennan was called in questioning her motives of auditioning again. 

[TUOwl84]

7 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Brennan is VK's boot buddy.

I just re-watched season 13, and Kelli tells Madeline she doesn't care to know the reason why she moved to another locker, so still a mystery.

If she didn't care to know why she moved her locker.  Then why even bring her in the office to discuss it.  Probably for added drama!  But what I want to know is Kitty mentioned Madeline needs an attitude adjustment, but she said a lot of the girls do.  I'd like to know who were the others that needed that too.

[scorpio1031]

2 minutes ago, hereforthedrama said:

It's also rumored that VK overheard Brennan asking something along the lines of "Is it worth it?" which she took back to TK and Kelli, hence why Brennan was called in questioning her motives of auditioning again. 

Forgot about that:)  Sometimes I think I need a chart

2 minutes ago, TUOwl84 said:

If she didn't care to know why she moved her locker.  Then why even bring her in the office to discuss it.  Probably for added drama!  But what I want to know is Kitty mentioned Madeline needs an attitude adjustment, but she said a lot of the girls do.  I'd like to know who were the others that needed that too.

Madeline had complaints from vets that she was giving advice to fellow rookies, and they felt that wasn't her place.  So that was another reason, but the locker was the big thing.  Then later in the ep, she gets called in again about underperforming.  She told K&J she felt that what had happened earlier had upset her.  She said that even Kitty had stopped her and asked why she was being a crybaby.  Does Kitty really not understand how she affects these girls?

[Squeek]

1 minute ago, scorpio1031 said:

Does Kitty really not understand how she affects these girls?

I truly don't believe Kitty gives a crap unless they happen to be one of her favorites.  The rest should just be performing robots.

[HowdeeDo]

Over the years Kelli has gotten “softer” in terms of how she approaches girls with her comments. Kitty could give a crap and I think puts on a little bit more for the show now. I don’t remember her being this harsh in earlier seasons, but it could have been edited. 

Every show has to have a mean girl, and Kitty is that and a bag of chips and a outrageous milkshake. 

[Lolfordays]

16 hours ago, SingleMom9 said:

Has there ever been more than one or two legacies try out in the same season? I’d be curious to know...

I’ve read that Rachel W. is pretty vocal on the topic which is both disappointing and makes me like her even less.

I will never understand in a million year’s how Rachel W is not considered a public relations risk — unless the Cowboys don’t consider bigotry to be a public relations risk. 

She hides a lot of hate for a lot of groups behind Jesus — maybe that plays in pageants or with the Cowboys?

[Jennv]

4 minutes ago, Lolfordays said:

I will never understand in a million year’s how Rachel W is not considered a public relations risk — unless the Cowboys don’t consider bigotry to be a public relations risk. 

She hides a lot of hate for a lot of groups behind Jesus — maybe that plays in pageants or with the Cowboys?

I can’t stand her. I was really hoping she would retire after one season

[SmpIsimon]

5 minutes ago, Lolfordays said:

I will never understand in a million year’s how Rachel W is not considered a public relations risk — unless the Cowboys don’t consider bigotry to be a public relations risk. 

She hides a lot of hate for a lot of groups behind Jesus — maybe that plays in pageants or with the Cowboys?

I think they excuse her bigotry because she was first runner-up in Miss America. She’s extremely homophobic. 

[HookEmHorns]

1 hour ago, AAT said:

Again, this is my opinion, but I just don't think any of the DMD should make it, because clearly, they only tried out because their team is being dismantled. Now if Sheridan came back, I would have wanted her to make it, because she was actually in DCC TC in the past. Some of these girls have been working towards this for years.

This is just not true. For example, Julia tried out 2 years ago right after graduating from UT. I personally know she was heavily recruited for months beforehand and was heartbroken when she didn’t make training camp. Then she tried out for DMD that summer because she wanted to keep dancing, and made the team. The idea that the DMD girls are spiteful or begrudgingly going for DCC is laughable. It’s many of these girls lifelong dreams and this year they had the chance to really go for it. 

[nittanyvolleyball]

I'd be willing to bet there's a lot more bigotry in the organization than we think

[UnicornKicksBack]

3 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

I think they excuse her bigotry because she was first runner-up in Miss America. She’s extremely homophobic. 

I think they excuse it bc it lines up with Jones Family Values. 

Just now, nittanyvolleyball said:

I'd be willing to bet there's a lot more bigotry in the organization than we think

Bingo

[Jennv]

Just now, UnicornKicksBack said:

I think they excuse it bc it lines up with Jones Family Values. 

Yup

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

[MavisL]

Vicki and Rachel are going to be the best of friends.

[scorpio1031]

27 minutes ago, Tootie said:

What?  No look to the left, look to the right - you're looking at the 2007-2008 squad???  That was still the best.

[HowdeeDo]

8 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

What?  No look to the left, look to the right - you're looking at the 2007-2008 squad???  That was still the best.

That was the Beyoncé of all reveals. How dare they. 

[SmpIsimon]

I want to see how good of an actress Victoria is when they tell her she's made the team.  She already knows that, but of course she'll have to act like it's a big surprise.

[hathorlive]

1 hour ago, Lolfordays said:

I will never understand in a million year’s how Rachel W is not considered a public relations risk — unless the Cowboys don’t consider bigotry to be a public relations risk. 

She hides a lot of hate for a lot of groups behind Jesus — maybe that plays in pageants or with the Cowboys?

I always thought the reason I wasn't a DCC was because I was 30 pounds over weight and have never taken a dance class in my life.  But after reading instagram, I now know it's because I don't love Jesus enough and he knows my true path lies elsewhere...

I'm always shocked when I hear about homophobic dancers.  There are a lot of LGBTQ people in dance and the arts.  I'm happy for Jinelle and hope she has a great life, outside of Texas.

Edited July 8, 2019 by hathorlive

[scorpio1031]

21 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

I always thought the reason I wasn't a DCC was because I was 30 pounds over weight and have never taken a dance class in my life.  But after reading instagram, I now know it's because I don't love Jesus enough and he knows my true path lies elsewhere...

I like the ones who don't make training camp and say it's because "God must have had a different plan for me" when they can't do the kick line or a jump split, or are spilling out over their shorts.  No, you could have helped God out a little bit and practiced or laid off the extra carbs.  

[rafibomb]

7 hours ago, AAT said:

Again, this is my opinion, but I just don't think any of the DMD should make it, because clearly, they only tried out because their team is being dismantled. Now if Sheridan came back, I would have wanted her to make it, because she was actually in DCC TC in the past. Some of these girls have been working towards this for years.

IMO, the best candidates should make it, regardless of whether they've wanted to be a DCC since they popped out of the womb, or decided on a whim to give it a go the day before auditions. I get that everyone likes a good comeback story, but if you're truly trying to build a world-class organization (and not a squad full of mindless sycophants), it should all be about the candidate- not how bad/long they've wanted it, how many times they've tried out, or who happened to birth them. 

Edited July 9, 2019 by rafibomb

[MavisL]

1 minute ago, scorpio1031 said:

I like the ones who don't make training camp and say it's because "God must have had a different plan for me" when they can't do the kick line or a jump split, or are spilling out over their shorts.  No, you could have helped God out a little bit and practiced or laid off the extra carbs.  

I just died.

[ClosetDCCFan]

2 hours ago, AAT said:

I was trying to give VK the benefit of the doubt, but after this, I'm definitely not a fan!!! What an entitled and narcissistic attitude to have!!! I alway try to welcome feedback from anybody. Shouldn't we all strive to be the best version of ourselves??? I guess VK thinks she's already the best. God help her out in the real world. She sure won't be able to run to her mommy. Tina isn't much better. At least VK is only 19, Tina is suppose to be a mature adult. She's just a baby in my opinion. 

That's why the plan is to keep her in the tiny DCC bubble FOREVER.   

[hathorlive]

3 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

IMO, the best candidates should make it, regardless of whether they've wanted to be a DCC since they popped out of the womb, or decided on a whim to give it a go the day before auditions. I get that everyone likes a good comeback story, but if you're truly trying to build a world-class organizations (and not a squad full of mindless sycophants), it should all be about the candidate- not how bad/long they've wanted it, how many times they've tried out, or who happened to birth them. 

I'm pretty sure being a mindless sycophant is actually listed in the audition materials...

5 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

I like the ones who don't make training camp and say it's because "God must have had a different plan for me" when they can't do the kick line or a jump split, or are spilling out over their shorts.  No, you could have helped God out a little bit and practiced or laid off the extra carbs.  

Oh god, I needed a laugh today. Thank you from our lord of blessed carbohydrates (no I don't mean Vickie).

[loveanddcc]

OMG YOU GUYS. I had no idea that Jinelle was lesbian. I take back the rude comments I made about not liking her look. Her appearance may not be my cup of tea but damn, she must have faced so much hate and discrimination in her life, she really does not need me adding to that. I see that what they say is true now... be careful who you talk shit about bc you have NO IDEA what is going on in their personal lives, what they've been through, their pain, their struggles. I probably shouldn't be talking shit about anyone. But esp because someone I love very dearly is gay and I've seen the hate, the discrimination, the depression and the other effects of it... it just makes me think twice about publicly casting judgement on any of them. 

Also, I heard from a friend that Jerry doesn't support gay rights. Apparently Kitty asked a girl in prep class, do you support gay rights? The girl said yes, bc my brother is gay. Kitty told her that was the wrong answer bc Jerry didn't agree. She told the girl to find a way to answer that remained neutral bc the Cowboys don't want to address the issue publicly. Kitty herself supports the lgbt community but she tells the girls the truth of what it takes to work for the organization. The people at the top probably love Rachel W bc they share the same beliefs as her. So long as Rachel W doesn't outright express that she is anti lgbt, they don't care. 

There's a reason why the DCC do not participate in Pride while the DMD used too. It is bc Jerry doesn't support gay rights and rather than saying that (which would cause a media shit storm), they stay silent as a public relations strategy. 

Edited July 8, 2019 by loveanddcc

[TinyHands]

Gina’s dancing is certainly good enough to be point, but I think her body is too scary skinny/harsh looking for point.  Even Daphne looks more normal, gurl next door, as opposed to a body builder with veins kind of stomach. The outie belly button isn’t pretty, either.

[TinyHands]

7 minutes ago, loveanddcc said:

OMG YOU GUYS. I had no idea that Jinelle was lesbian. I take back the rude comments I made about not liking her look. Her appearance may not be my cup of tea but damn, she must have faced so much hate and discrimination in her life, she really does not need me adding to that. I see that what they say is true now... be careful who you talk shit about bc you have NO IDEA what is going on in their personal lives, what they've been through, their pain, their struggles. I probably shouldn't be talking shit about anyone. But esp because someone I love very dearly is gay and I've seen the hate, the discrimination, the depression and the other effects of it... it just makes me think twice about publicly casting judgement on any of them. 

Also, I heard from a friend that Jerry doesn't support gay rights. Apparently Kitty asked a girl in prep class, do you support gay rights? The girl said yes, bc my brother is gay. Kitty told her that was the wrong answer bc Jerry didn't agree. She told the girl to find a way to answer that remained neutral bc the Cowboys don't want to address the issue publicly. Kitty herself supports the lgbt community but she tells the girls the truth of what it takes to work for the organization. The people at the top probably love Rachel W bc they share the same beliefs as her. So long as Rachel W doesn't outright express that she is anti lgbt, they don't care. 

There's a reason why the DCC do not participate in Pride while the DMD used too. It is bc Jerry doesn't support gay rights and rather than saying that (which would cause a media shit storm), they stay silent as a public relations strategy. 

Rachel’s political views are abhorrent, but I have to say that she (along with Mormon Maddie) left very nice congratulations messages on Jinelle’s engagement announcement. It seems like an environment that maybe isn’t actively flying a pride flag, but there isn’t harsh mistreatment.

My view was that the engagement was on the down-low because Jinelle and Katy were both Cowboys employees, with Katy almost being a manager to Jinelle when she was cheering. They’ve had several highly out and visible gay men on as choreographers, so I don’t think there’s discrimination on an overt level. Rachel has her crazy personal views, but she didn’t let it affect her relationship with Jinelle or Katy.

[meb1130]

I thought it was interesting she said the Stars and Stripes are a privilege not a right  

https://mobile.twitter.com/JinelleEsther/status/1148127494165299200

Edited July 8, 2019 by meb1130

[loveanddcc]

11 minutes ago, TinyHands said:

Rachel’s political views are abhorrent, but I have to say that she (along with Mormon Maddie) left very nice congratulations messages on Jinelle’s engagement announcement. It seems like an environment that maybe isn’t actively flying a pride flag, but there isn’t harsh mistreatment.

My view was that the engagement was on the down-low because Jinelle and Katy were both Cowboys employees, with Katy almost being a manager to Jinelle when she was cheering. They’ve had several highly out and visible gay men on as choreographers, so I don’t think there’s discrimination on an overt level. Rachel has her crazy personal views, but she didn’t let it affect her relationship with Jinelle or Katy.

Maybe. But I can confirm with 100% certainty that Kitty told the girls in prep class that the Cowboys organization expects them not to talk about lgbt issues. They are not to take a side either pro or against. This happened back in 2017 before auditions. 

[RockYou]

19 minutes ago, TinyHands said:

Gina’s dancing is certainly good enough to be point, but I think her body is too scary skinny/harsh looking for point.  Even Daphne looks more normal, gurl next door, as opposed to a body builder with veins kind of stomach. The outie belly button isn’t pretty, either.

I HATE seeing that belly button. It’s all I can see. Yucky yuck her abs are like too tight. She’s an amazing dancer but I’m off my wanting her to earn point just because of that hideous belly button 😣😣😣

[MavisL]

6 minutes ago, TinyHands said:

Rachel’s political views are abhorrent, but I have to say that she (along with Mormon Maddie) left very nice congratulations messages on Jinelle’s engagement announcement. It seems like an environment that maybe isn’t actively flying a pride flag, but there isn’t harsh mistreatment.

My view was that the engagement was on the down-low because Jinelle and Katy were both Cowboys employees, with Katy almost being a manager to Jinelle when she was cheering. They’ve had several highly out and visible gay men on as choreographers, so I don’t think there’s discrimination on an overt level. Rachel has her crazy personal views, but she didn’t let it affect her relationship with Jinelle or Katy.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's newsworthy and I don't think that when Kelli was engaged to Joel (they met in the organization-he worked there), that they went around advertising it (though I can't be sure). Like, ok cool, who cares. I have read that several people in the org knew about Jinelle but kept their mouth shut, or at least didn't raise hell. 

The leaving nice congratulations thing though, I can best sum up the hypocrisy to those who haven't been racially/sexually profiled by quoting Ice Cube's response to Bill Maher (while a guest on his show) after Bill felt emboldened to use the "n" word: "I knew you was gon' fuck up sooner or later,"

In other words, your public displays of social consciousness are negated by the intolerant views you publicly extol every other day of the year. Rachel is a homophobe. Hateful bigots usually fold when they're face to face though.

[loveanddcc]

26 minutes ago, TinyHands said:

Rachel’s political views are abhorrent, but I have to say that she (along with Mormon Maddie) left very nice congratulations messages on Jinelle’s engagement announcement. It seems like an environment that maybe isn’t actively flying a pride flag, but there isn’t harsh mistreatment.

My view was that the engagement was on the down-low because Jinelle and Katy were both Cowboys employees, with Katy almost being a manager to Jinelle when she was cheering. They’ve had several highly out and visible gay men on as choreographers, so I don’t think there’s discrimination on an overt level. Rachel has her crazy personal views, but she didn’t let it affect her relationship with Jinelle or Katy.

I have to admit I smirk every time I see a gay choreographer on the show. I think, take THAT Jerry!! When K&J pick the choreographers, they pick the best. As far as I know, K&J are NOT prejudiced. It’s just Jerry and they have to work within his system. When they present a choreographer who is talented, famous, and will bring viewers and $$$ into the show... Jerry has no choice but to allow it. I mean granted he could say no. But he cares about money and publicity more than his personal views — although his personal views are still the same.

Also, there’s a world of difference between an Instagram comment and attending the Pride parade (like as a team, in uniform, performing) or making a public comment to a news station that the Cowboys support gay rights... They can’t do any of the latter bc Jerry won’t allow it. But a few Instagram like and comments don’t really matter. They’re not going to fire anyone over that bc it’s literally not newsworthy.

Edited July 8, 2019 by loveanddcc

[UnicornKicksBack]

As much as I would love for Jinelle to shed the kiss up, simpering sweet reputation and dish a huge pile of dirt on the DCC, I don’t think that post was underhanded or anything shady. If anything she’s sucking up again to how it’s a privilege to be an American. She’s married to an American now anyway so not like she’d have trouble if she did want to live here. 

[loveanddcc]

9 minutes ago, UnicornKicksBack said:

As much as I would love for Jinelle to shed the kiss up, simpering sweet reputation and dish a huge pile of dirt on the DCC, I don’t think that post was underhanded or anything shady. If anything she’s sucking up again to how it’s a privilege to be an American. She’s married to an American now anyway so not like she’d have trouble if she did want to live here. 

Oh I didn’t mean underhanded to the DCC... I meant it sounds like she’s talking about illegal immigration without outright making her views known. 

[loveaux]

Skeletor: You are now looking at your teammates for the 2019-2020 season! Congratulations!

Victoria:

also chill on the outtie bellybutton slander 🙄 i am a proud outtie belly button holder!

[hathorlive]

2 minutes ago, loveaux said:

also chill on the outtie bellybutton slander 🙄 i am a proud outtie belly button holder!

"I'm sorry Brunheilda.  While you are a stellar dancer and have the body of a goddess (re: super skinny with big boobs), you are unfortunately an outie and this is your last night."

I'm shocked they've not said this to someone yet.

[Bellisima08]

1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

I like the ones who don't make training camp and say it's because "God must have had a different plan for me" when they can't do the kick line or a jump split, or are spilling out over their shorts.  No, you could have helped God out a little bit and practiced or laid off the extra carbs.  

OMG, my stomach hurts from laughing so hard! If I decide to watch the auditions & I see an interview where a girl who didn't make the team talks about God's different plan for her, I'm going to remember this comment & laugh all over again!

[Law Mom]

1 hour ago, loveanddcc said:

OMG YOU GUYS. I had no idea that Jinelle was lesbian. I take back the rude comments I made about not liking her look.

If you believe in equality, you shouldn't feel bad about talking about her looks just because she is gay. It's patronizing. Treat her the same as you would treat anyone of any sexuality.