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21 hours ago, debbie311 said:

She allowed him to put the pool table in the dining room of the house they chose.  Really? I guess people have their priorities.

Our family did that!  Or, we didn't even have a separate dining room, but a dining room table in 1/3 of the big living area (open concept in the 1960s!).  When the youngest of the kids were in high school, two of whom were boys, my parents replaced the eating table with a pool table.

One nice thing about it being in the open instead of an enclosed room was that you had to use the shorty cue only on one side.  But now I'm thinking my folks must have been off in the head to do that--letting their living area, where they watched TV and sat around, be full of clacking pool balls and teenage boys yakking and going in and out of the house at all hours of the day and night.

Surely unrelatedly, when they built a new house when all five of their children were grown, it had one guest room.  Basta!

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You don't use they shorty cue--you use THE shorty cue. Although the first version has kind of a ring to it.
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8 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

it was so obvious they were going to choose grandma's house

I'm just glad they didn't buy house 3, with the junk yard next door! And  house 3 seemed like a cheap flip to me. 

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I’m only halfway through this episode with a young man looking for his first place in Allentown, PA (I think) and his mom is driving me crazy.  She keeps pushing him to live close to her.  🤯

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Thumper said:

I’m only halfway through this episode with a young man looking for his first place in Allentown, PA (I think) and his mom is driving me crazy.  She keeps pushing him to live close to her.  🤯

 

 

My best friend and I made a pact that if either of us starts acting like that mother the other one will smack her upside the head. 

I'm glad he got the home he wanted and didn't give into Momzilla.

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I'm proud of and happy for young Allentown HH. Way to manage your mom! 

I loved #3, from the tile on the front porch in. He can certainly make the improvements (he's got handy friends!) and he'll have a place that's perfect for him.

If he gets a roommate, does Mom get to interview them? Psst, Mom, watch the episode. Make improvements on yourself.

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10 hours ago, edie3 said:

I'm just glad they didn't buy house 3, with the junk yard next door! And  house 3 seemed like a cheap flip to me. 

The girl HH even mentioned the mattresses in that yard.  I've had the notion that if I were interested in a house, I'd go by there at all hours of the day and night for a little while to see if a neighbor does something that would drive me bats.  And then I realized all it takes is one new neighbor to ruin an idyllic situation, or that dog that barks all day could die the day after I buy the house.  So you can never be sure.

I wonder how much a privacy fence along that back yard would cost, because having the hoard so visible has got to hurt House 3's sales price.

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17 hours ago, buttersister said:

I'm proud of and happy for young Allentown HH. Way to manage your mom! 

I loved #3, from the tile on the front porch in. He can certainly make the improvements (he's got handy friends!) and he'll have a place that's perfect for him.

If he gets a roommate, does Mom get to interview them? Psst, Mom, watch the episode. Make improvements on yourself.

Part of me feels bad for the mother. I think some women when they are single parents,  get very attached to their one and only child especially if it’s a boy.. and he seems like he might possibly be gay? , so maybe that would make her over protective. Although  yes, she does have to work on being a little less pushy.. he seemed very nice and very mature, and he picked the best house.  Although I don’t know about having three roommates in one room up in the attic bedroom. Does he want a roommate or to run a boarding house?

8 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

The girl HH even mentioned the mattresses in that yard.  I've had the notion that if I were interested in a house, I'd go by there at all hours of the day and night for a little while to see if a neighbor does something that would drive me bats.  And then I realized all it takes is one new neighbor to ruin an idyllic situation, or that dog that barks all day could die the day after I buy the house.  So you can never be sure.

I wonder how much a privacy fence along that back yard would cost, because having the hoard so visible has got to hurt House 3's sales price.

Good neighbors are a rarity. We had neighbors who’d  dog barked incessantly. They moved out. I was so happy for about two seconds until someone else moved in with two dogs that bark incessantly. There’s all kinds of trash, human and garbage.

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25 minutes ago, chediavolo said:

I think some women when they are single parents,  get very attached to their one and only child especially if it’s a boy.. and he seems like he might possibly be gay? , so maybe that would make her over protective. Although  yes, she does have to work on being a little less pushy.. he seemed very nice and very mature...

It's a choice. I too am a single mother with one son (who is gay) and like I said before, my best friend (who is also a single mother albeit of a daughter) and I made a pact. I would rather banish myself from my son's life than be a pushy, overbearing mother who keeps saying "You know, you don't HAVE to move out! You could stay here!" Good on the son for kindly resisting.

I was impressed with the amount of space in that townhouse although I agree three roommates is a lot. 

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Two dads with three adorable kids looking for a big house in Connecticut. What could go wrong? And where did that twist come from.

Karl, aka, Mr. OPULENT, was annoying with his glam entryway, grand staircase for prom photos (Lord help any of those kids who passes on prom), moldings, giant chandeliers, a room for every kid, you get the picture. Every time he opened his mouth, baggage from his childhood of sharing a bathroom with two sisters spilled out. Each. child. must. have. a. bedroom. of. their. own! And I need more opulence!

His partner seemed more level-headed. Otoh, he was insisting he needed a secluded location with invisible neighbors and acres of land to decompress from "everyone's" super stressful life. I shudder to think about what that means. Plus, site lines!! Must see kids at all times! When they're out in the woods, dude?

#1: Normalish house with great site lines. But not enough bathrooms or bedrooms (plus, they're hoping for a fourth), no glam, no big stairway and ack--you can see the neighbors (from a great distance, I'm telling you).

#2: House in the country. No neighbors, or neighborhood kids to play with. Needed work.

#3: Giant-ass house with all the glam, opulence and grand staircases you could ask for. Awesome kitchen. Bigger price tag. And walls! So many walls you can't see the kids playing. (Knocking down those walls when the price was 200K above the budget was a con.)

How will they compromise?? How will they ever be satisfied? Easily and now, as it turns out once they jettisoned the producer-driven faux drama. They pick (are living in) house #1. And it's great. Because, wait for it, Karl says you don't need opulent surroundings when you're opulent with family. Oh, Karl! And they're about to meet their fourth kid. Good luck, guys, you seem terrific left to your own devices.

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In spite of the talk about prom pictures worthy staircase, I liked the couple.  Adopting four kids made me teary eyed.      I love the house they picked, the other two would have been so much over budget with the work for #2, and the price for #3 with removing the walls.   

I like house #1, and once they finish the space for the fourth bedroom, it will be perfect.  

With the Allentown episode, I love that the son picked the house he wanted, and I doubt he'll have three roommates, even though he has the room.   

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15 hours ago, chediavolo said:

Part of me feels bad for the mother. I think some women when they are single parents,  get very attached to their one and only child especially if it’s a boy.. and he seems like he might possibly be gay? , so maybe that would make her over protective. Although  yes, she does have to work on being a little less pushy.. he seemed very nice and very mature, and he picked the best house.  Although I don’t know about having three roommates in one room up in the attic bedroom. Does he want a roommate or to run a boarding house?

Good neighbors are a rarity. We had neighbors who’d  dog barked incessantly. They moved out. I was so happy for about two seconds until someone else moved in with two dogs that bark incessantly. There’s all kinds of trash, human and garbage.

and he was talking about remodeling to make the 1/2 bath on the main floor a full bathroom, right? 

is that the one the roomers on the 3rd floor would have to use?

great.   so they have to trek down 2 flights if they need to use it in the middle of the night? nope, not good

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I missed the part where he wanted to put three people in one room?

Although I think that a lot of people his age - right out of college - don't mind have a bunch of roommates. And not to be gender specific, I think guys are much more likely to not mind living with a lot of other guys in an extended "frat bro" type of situation. 

Most girls would be more focused on bathrooms.

I wouldn't call the home I bought a "town house". It was just a very typical home that was built in that period. Suburbs didn't exist but a lot of homes - especially those built for working class incomes - were built close to each other but not attached.

Historically a "town house" was actually the second home for the gentry in England who would use their "town house" in London during the season but not - at least in the USA - describes row homes which are attached in some way. They can either by older like NYC brownstones but their are newer townhome developments because they don't require as much land

Honestly I thought the first two houses were terrible. The first town home was pretty bad - on a very noisy street AND all the rooms were small. It was a stupid choice for a single person - the logical choice would be poorer people who needed three bedrooms and wouldn't mind the very small rooms because they had kids they needed to squeeze in.

The house in the suburb was completely fugly. A door to the exterior is theoretically nice but not if it isn't the only way to access the back yard without going around the front. I have seen that kind of layout in some of the Chicago apartments where the master bedroom is in the rear and that is where they have the wooden stairs which pass themselves off as balconies :-)

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Couple that wanted a big house in Apex, NC for foster children:

Husband was practical and seemed to be trying to keep costs down...wife was wanted alot of boogee stuff and wanted to do a ton of updates in every house. Having a pool seemed to be the big priority for her...as a parent I just don't understand this. What about the schools in that county? To me that has always been the top priority when looking for a home. As a side note: Wife had resting bitch face most of the time and didn't seem very warm and fuzzy...can't imagine what she would be like as a foster mom especially with kids that have issues.

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Re the single guy with the pushy mom, I thought he was planning to put roommates on the 2nd floor where there were 2 bedrooms, and he was going to take the top floor for himself.  I think that was a suggestion made by the realtor.  There was no bathroom on the 3rd floor, so he would either have to add one there, or walk down to the 2nd floor for bathroom visits.  I may be misrembering - sometimes these episodes blur into each other.  Personally, I wouldn't have bought any of the 3.  

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1 hour ago, amarante said:

I missed the part where he wanted to put three people in one room?

Although I think that a lot of people his age - right out of college - don't mind have a bunch of roommates. And not to be gender specific, I think guys are much more likely to not mind living with a lot of other guys in an extended "frat bro" type of situation. 

Most girls would be more focused on bathrooms.

I wouldn't call the home I bought a "town house". It was just a very typical home that was built in that period. Suburbs didn't exist but a lot of homes - especially those built for working class incomes - were built close to each other but not attached.

Historically a "town house" was actually the second home for the gentry in England who would use their "town house" in London during the season but not - at least in the USA - describes row homes which are attached in some way. They can either by older like NYC brownstones but their are newer townhome developments because they don't require as much land

Honestly I thought the first two houses were terrible. The first town home was pretty bad - on a very noisy street AND all the rooms were small. It was a stupid choice for a single person - the logical choice would be poorer people who needed three bedrooms and wouldn't mind the very small rooms because they had kids they needed to squeeze in.

The house in the suburb was completely fugly. A door to the exterior is theoretically nice but not if it isn't the only way to access the back yard without going around the front. I have seen that kind of layout in some of the Chicago apartments where the master bedroom is in the rear and that is where they have the wooden stairs which pass themselves off as balconies :-)

Growing up in Baltimore, definitely would call that first place a townhouse just because of the era it was built in, #2 just a single place in the suburbs and #3 a semi-detached row house.  #3 had a lot of charm.  Could be the semantics of the area on what they call different styles of houses.

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Wife had resting bitch face most of the time and didn't seem very warm and fuzzy...can't imagine what she would be like as a foster mom especially with kids that have issues.

This would have been better to watch if I'd muted the sound of her voice. 

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4 hours ago, cameron said:

Growing up in Baltimore, definitely would call that first place a townhouse just because of the era it was built in, #2 just a single place in the suburbs and #3 a semi-detached row house.  #3 had a lot of charm.  Could be the semantics of the area on what they call different styles of houses.

First place in Allentown was definitely a townhome - that is pretty much universally what attached homes are called - whenever built.

My comment was that the third home was called a town home as well - but I might have been mistaken.

There was a new (at least to me) episode which my DVR picked up. Young kid buying a condo in San Diego touring with him mother. The places he looked at were small and older one bedroom/one bath units - the larger was less than 600 square feet. 

I think they were originally built as cheap rentals and then turned into condos. However I am astounded there were any choices for less than $200,000.

I must say that the roach scuttling up the wall would have been an instant NO to me because it would have raised issues about maintenance of the property. I live in a multi family high rise and I haven't seen a roach in years - I used to have roaches but the chemicals used now seem to have completely eradicated outbreaks. I think the newer ones don't just kill them but have a chemical they bring back to the nest which prevents the eggs from hatching. Any place that still has roaches - yuk. 

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10 hours ago, amarante said:

First place in Allentown was definitely a townhome - that is pretty much universally what attached homes are called - whenever built.

My comment was that the third home was called a town home as well - but I might have been mistaken.

There was a new (at least to me) episode which my DVR picked up. Young kid buying a condo in San Diego touring with him mother. The places he looked at were small and older one bedroom/one bath units - the larger was less than 600 square feet. 

I think they were originally built as cheap rentals and then turned into condos. However I am astounded there were any choices for less than $200,000.

I must say that the roach scuttling up the wall would have been an instant NO to me because it would have raised issues about maintenance of the property. I live in a multi family high rise and I haven't seen a roach in years - I used to have roaches but the chemicals used now seem to have completely eradicated outbreaks. I think the newer ones don't just kill them but have a chemical they bring back to the nest which prevents the eggs from hatching. Any place that still has roaches - yuk. 

Guess you haven't lived in the South.  Lived in South Carolina for 20+ years and unfortunately roaches (or as we like to call them Palmetto Bugs) are a way of life.  That's why exterminating companies do a booming business.  Everyone has a quarterly service contract.  You learn to live with it.

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2 hours ago, cameron said:

Guess you haven't lived in the South.  Lived in South Carolina for 20+ years and unfortunately roaches (or as we like to call them Palmetto Bugs) are a way of life.  That's why exterminating companies do a booming business.  Everyone has a quarterly service contract.  You learn to live with it.

I live in Southern California which has the same eco-structure as San Diego and roaches are NOT something that is now prevalent in well maintained housing.

Now ants on the other hand are a HUGE problem for some reason and people in single family homes will generally have a contract with ant extermination specialists. I am not a scientist but I think the dry weather combined with essentially no dormant period because it is never cold creates a perfect storm of ant infestation 

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11 minutes ago, amarante said:

I live in Southern California which has the same eco-structure as San Diego and roaches are NOT something that is now prevalent in well maintained housing.

Now ants on the other hand are a HUGE problem for some reason and people in single family homes will generally have a contract with ant extermination specialists. I am not a scientist but I think the dry weather combined with essentially no dormant period because it is never cold creates a perfect storm of ant infestation 

Well in South Carolina palmetto bugs are common (aka roaches).  And I'm talking well maintained multi million dollar homes, think over the three million range and up.  It comes with the area, not something we saw when we lived in Pebble Beach, Chicago, Connecticut, Maryland,

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11 hours ago, cameron said:

Well in South Carolina palmetto bugs are common (aka roaches).  And I'm talking well maintained multi million dollar homes, think over the three million range and up.  It comes with the area, not something we saw when we lived in Pebble Beach, Chicago, Connecticut, Maryland,

etc.

My son and my brother and law live in SC.  Never seen a roach/palmetto bug in either of their houses and have stayed in both for up to a week. I'm sure my sis-in-law would want to move if she ever saw one in their house.

Also visited an apartment where my son lived and never saw a roach there either. I actually asked him if he's ever seen a roach there and he said initially a few here and there but then he got some stuff from Amazon that completely eradicated them.

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11 hours ago, cameron said:

Well in South Carolina palmetto bugs are common (aka roaches).  And I'm talking well maintained multi million dollar homes, think over the three million range and up.  It comes with the area, not something we saw when we lived in Pebble Beach, Chicago, Connecticut, Maryland,

etc.

But this episode was shot in San Diego where roaches are a sign of poor maintenance and I would be very wary of how the HOA maintained other parts of the infrastructure of the property 

Different areas have different "wildlife" - I would imagine coyotes aren't a threat in South Carolina but actually are hazardous to small dogs in relatively urban areas of Los Angeles. 

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1 hour ago, amarante said:

Different areas have different "wildlife" - I would imagine coyotes aren't a threat in South Carolina but actually are hazardous to small dogs in relatively urban areas of Los Angeles. 

Well, here in Baton Rouge, we have the trifecta - alligators in the LSU lakes, and recently one on a road about a mile from my house, roaches, and coyotes IN the city.  Have seen them walking down the city streets in broad daylight.  For added enjoyment, we also have millions of mosquitoes.

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If you told me that I'd be yelling "Shut up!" at my screen for two dads who adopted FOUR kids ... but I was. Karl had way too many crazy ideas about what kids are looking for. He wanted THEM to be able to look up and see a big chandelier, and for THEM to impress their friends who came over. What??? You'd think that two guys who opened their hearts to these kids would realize that that's not what kids care about. 

And not-Karl, whining that he could see other houses (from the home they eventually bought) - crazy. Who did he think his kids would play with if they were out in the middle of nowhere? 

I was frustrated the whole time. Gah! Kids sharing bedrooms! Gah! Kids sharing a bathroom! Gah! Kids not always right in your line of sight! 

I hope that that craziness WAS producer induced or at least was only about the house and not about any other aspects of their lives. 

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1 hour ago, amarante said:

But this episode was shot in San Diego where roaches are a sign of poor maintenance

Or of drain pipes that don't get regularly used.  Roaches love to live in those, because too few people know of the need to routinely flush them.

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Watched 3 of the 4 episodes tonight. First one, in Tampa, was new.  Wife lost her apartment because of a stove fire.  Living apart from her husband until they get a house ( not sure if it was clear why they had to live apart). Anyway, they weren't too picky and so positive about each place. They were likable.

Second episode, Maui, Hawaii, rerun from 2019.  Did you know their daughter's name is Veta?  They said it every few minutes!  That was annoying, but they were a mostly likable family that wasn't overly picky.

Third episode, North Padre Island, TX, rerun from 2019.  Such a cute couple and family, really likable! Again, not too picky, and love the townhouse they bought.  2 blocks from the ocean, with a pool and boat slip for their boat - nice!

Taping the fourth one, looking for an island house in Maine. About to crash for the night, so will watch tomorrow.

 

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I needed to make room on my DVR and saw that I had dozens of recorded HH eps, so I blew them up (didn't watch all first;-)

I cancelled a recording recently because regardless of where the houses were, the plot was:  She wants a modern city place but he's worried about the budget. x 100. 

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1 hour ago, Thumper said:

Coyotes here in the suburbs in Minnesota too.  Perhaps we need to alert the authorities that COYOTES ARE TAKING OVER!!!!!!    😁

We live in Georgia, just across the Savannah River from South Carolina. So, of course, we have palmetto bugs, but the exterminator keeps them out. I get one inside every now and then, but they are barely alive. We also see deer, foxes, and coyotes. Just for fun we also see the occasional turtle. Snakes are quite common and people who live near the river see alligators.

Being from Louisiana originally, I've seen it all. 🤣

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14 hours ago, Kimboweena said:

Watched 3 of the 4 episodes tonight. First one, in Tampa, was new.  Wife lost her apartment because of a stove fire.  Living apart from her husband until they get a house ( not sure if it was clear why they had to live apart). Anyway, they weren't too picky and so positive about each place. They were likable.

Second episode, Maui, Hawaii, rerun from 2019.  Did you know their daughter's name is Veta?  They said it every few minutes!  That was annoying, but they were a mostly likable family that wasn't overly picky.

Third episode, North Padre Island, TX, rerun from 2019.  Such a cute couple and family, really likable! Again, not too picky, and love the townhouse they bought.  2 blocks from the ocean, with a pool and boat slip for their boat - nice!

Taping the fourth one, looking for an island house in Maine. About to crash for the night, so will watch tomorrow.

 

What were your thoughts on the Maine episode?

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14 hours ago, Kimboweena said:

Living apart from her husband until they get a house ( not sure if it was clear why they had to live apart).

The Tampa husband said he'd been living with roommates, so I guess they thought it would better to live apart until they could save and buy a house?

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16 hours ago, Kimboweena said:

Third episode, North Padre Island, TX, rerun from 2019.  Such a cute couple and family, really likable! Again, not too picky

Good thing, because a week ago Corpus Christi had a heat index of 125 degrees, its highest ever.

https://twitter.com/NWSCorpus/status/1670782231386681344

If they're on the island it's slightly cooler, but the incessant wind blowing in from the Gulf of Mexico feels like a wet rag slapping you in the face.

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8 hours ago, Mom21 said:

What were your thoughts on the Maine episode?

Nice family, but they had four children and only required 2 bedrooms.  Said the boat could be a third bedroom!  Yikes!  They weren't picky about the houses. Guess coming from living on a boat, the houses look pretty good.

They're more adventurous than I would be, taking that house with just a composting toilet outside the house!  I wouldn't move in until there was a better bathroom inside the house. At least they have, I hope, a shower on the boat. 

Maine is so beautiful, that episode was worth watching just for the scenery! I've been to Maine, would love to go again some day.  Living in Florida, I am jealous of the cooler weather they have there in the summer.

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8 hours ago, Kimboweena said:

Nice family, but they had four children and only required 2 bedrooms.  Said the boat could be a third bedroom!  Yikes!  They weren't picky about the houses. Guess coming from living on a boat, the houses look pretty good.

They're more adventurous than I would be, taking that house with just a composting toilet outside the house!  I wouldn't move in until there was a better bathroom inside the house. At least they have, I hope, a shower on the boat. 

Maine is so beautiful, that episode was worth watching just for the scenery! I've been to Maine, would love to go again some day.  Living in Florida, I am jealous of the cooler weather they have there in the summer.

not the house i would have picked but would love to see how it ends up after they put in the septic and other stuff

interesting life for them, guess they must home school 

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Single mom in Scottsdale (may have been a repeat, been out of town several times recently). What the hell- obligatory friend said keep budget nearer $700,000- and comments buyer "has champagne taste on beer budget." So $700,000 is a beer budget? Insane.

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On 6/25/2023 at 8:56 AM, Thumper said:

Coyotes here in the suburbs in Minnesota too.  Perhaps we need to alert the authorities that COYOTES ARE TAKING OVER!!!!!!    😁

I had no idea coyotes existed in Minnesota - honestly I would have thought wolves. 

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19 minutes ago, amarante said:

I had no idea coyotes existed in Minnesota - honestly I would have thought wolves. 

We have both, but wolves tend to be in the more rural areas.  In recent years, coyotes have been seen regularly even in the suburbs.

 

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Double episode, packaged as "new."  I remember the Corvallis, Oregon episode.  They were nice, and like the place they found. Also, priced so they don't need a roommate, and can do renovations.  Did wonder about his biking to school, thought Oregon was really rainy like Washington.

Seattle, annoying chick with the "super color vision."  Don't think I saw this first time it aired, but do remember the comments.  So one house, she says she likes the blue bedroom.  Can't you do better with your super color vision?  Tell us exactly what shade of blue.  Mom was the voice of reason.  Believe she picked the most expensive house, but realizes she'll need to have roommates.

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11 hours ago, BAForever said:

obligatory friend said keep budget nearer $700,000- and comments buyer "has champagne taste on beer budget." So $700,000 is a beer budget? Insane.

I thought the same thing, but figured she received a generous settlement in her divorce.  She also earns a good salary as an ER/trauma nurse.  It's none of my business, but when similar home buyer situations are featured, I always hope the HH isn't spending the child support allowance on what could be future school/college $$. None of my business, of course, but it's the practical side of me.  The house she chose looks nice, in her preferred school district, and there is a pool for the children which would be a bonus.     

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11 hours ago, BAForever said:

So $700,000 is a beer budget? Insane.

I guess my budget would be considered tap water.  Or pond scum.

That has to be the stupidest phrase ever uttered on this show and are a blue million of them.

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11 hours ago, Thumper said:

We have both, but wolves tend to be in the more rural areas.  In recent years, coyotes have been seen regularly even in the suburbs.

 

I live in a midwestern suburb of a large city in Ohio.  Coyotes are coming back to this area, too.  People who live in the less built-up suburbs have to keep a watch out when they let their smaller dogs out at night, as coyotes have been known to grab them up.  I know 2 people who lost small dogs to them.

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5 hours ago, laredhead said:

The house she chose looks nice, in her preferred school district,

I've lived in Phoenix for over 30 years and couldn't BELIEVE how mediocre the homes she was shown were in the $700K price range. 

The one she bought had absolutely no "curb appeal" with a quirky interior that had no features I thought were appealing.  The 2nd Scottsdale choice was also very modest in appeal.

The 3rd home in Phx was better insofar as attractive features and SPACE ; however, I understand the kids wanting to remain in Scottsdale schools.

When I see what $700K buys in other parts of the Country it pains me to think of how the Greater Phx area compares.  

Also, there was something off-putting about the buyer's voice and personality that stuck with me throughout the episode.

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6 hours ago, Notabug said:

I live in a midwestern suburb of a large city in Ohio.  Coyotes are coming back to this area, too.  People who live in the less built-up suburbs have to keep a watch out when they let their smaller dogs out at night, as coyotes have been known to grab them up.  I know 2 people who lost small dogs to them.

We've been having fox and bear sightings in my neighborhood.  I don't take the garbage can to the end of my very short driveway after dark anymore.  Between the horrible fires a couple of summers ago and record-breaking snow this past winter, the bears are hungry!

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2 hours ago, pdlinda said:

Also, there was something off-putting about the buyer's voice and personality that stuck with me throughout the episode.

Could it have possibly been the use of the phrase "I like" about 25 times?  Also, the massive amount of overtalk of each other by the 3 women made some parts of the episode hard to understand.,

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13 hours ago, Kimboweena said:

Did wonder about his biking to school, thought Oregon was really rainy like Washington.

It is.  Or not really rainy, more like always drizzling.

People ride there regardless, and might even consider it a badge of honor.  Bike fenders are very popular, as are dry bags to carry your stuff.  I remember my first taste of this insanity when I walked across the Hawthorne Bridge in Portland at about 5:00 p.m. in the winter.  It was full dark already and cold and drizzling and I could not believe how many bikers went by me.  It was a constant stream, presumably of commuters on their way home.  I had no idea that sort of thing went on.

Then I was in Eugene, and again it was dark and drizzling and there were bike riders all over the streets near downtown and the college, going to the grocery store and things like that.  I thought it was miserable just being in my car.

I guess they follow the advice to dance with who brung ya when it comes to weather and biking, but for me...no thanks.

As for coyotes, they look greasy to me.  And they always have this look on their face.  Foxes have a pleasant visage, but those coyotes--they look sneaky, like they're up to no good.

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