Mondrianyone April 13, 2019 Share April 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, ChitChat said: I think Dorinda would whip PK's ass in shape. Totally. I think Dorit only "cares" for show. She's obviously done a lot of work educating herself on his disease. [/sarcasm off] 9 Link to comment
Chit Chat April 13, 2019 Share April 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mondrianyone said: Totally. I think Dorit only "cares" for show. I'm afraid so, especially since she thinks he's going to go from a Type 2 to a Type 1. I'm surprised she didn't say something like "when I was pregnant, PK had gestational diabetes." That's how dim that bulb is. 8 8 Link to comment
bravofan27 April 13, 2019 Share April 13, 2019 I think Dorit mean't that he was pre-diabetic. I'm sure she'll correct herself at the reunion. 1 1 Link to comment
Giselle April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 LVP looked awful on WWHL. Way to much work done along with big ole horse, "Chrisley white" chompers. She looked & looks ridiculous. 4 Link to comment
FlMom April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 11:50 AM, Lady of nod said: Why oh why are these bitches so determined to bring LVP down? Let's count the reasons: LVP - 4 successful restaurants, 2 TV shows, a husband and children that adore her, Animal rights activist, (who actually works at it, a dog rescue, a new spot in Vegas, always being recognized for her charity work and for advocating LBGTQ rights, a home to die for, ponies, swans, dogs. Beautiful and classy. Kyle - washed up child star whose own sisters nephews and nieces want nothing to do with her. Failed clothing shop. Failed TV show. Generally dumb. Rhinna - could write a whole page on her, but lets just say nasty, anorexic bitch with 2 entitled brats selling crappy clothes on QVC.. Erika - I'm not really sure what her beef is with LVP but her "fabulous" life - loveless marriage, employees paid to tell her how amazing she is, How long can she sustain the Erika Jane persona? The end's in sight dear. Sadly for you this is a career that you will age out of. Then what? Teddy - Accountability coach? A liar who never lies? Get's downright scary ugly when she''s pissed off. Take those man hands and go work for Habitat for Humanity. In fact all these women could give back a little more than a cycling class for charity and an occasional visit to a soup kitchen. Dorit -Doggie dumper, liar, PK, fake accent, bathing suit designer who can't pay her manufacturers, lawsuits galore. Camille - wtf with the LVP gums take down? Low blow bitch. Better go back to that publicist who rehabilitated you after season 1. Denise - hoping you won't join the dark side. Bravo! No pun intended. 1 10 Link to comment
ShawnaLanne April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 I don't think the women are jealous of LVP because of her money or professional success. I think they are jealous because a.) She has a larger fan base and is HBIC on the show, and b.) outthinks and out manuvers them everytime. I'm not going to watch this season as stated because it's boring and I don't really care how Dorit was outed. She got rid of two dogs and one ended up in a kill center because she gave it to a friend (being generous here) instead of doing what she was contractually, and morally supposed to do; take it back to the shelter. Lisa, I'm personally tired of LVP. I've seen her house and grounds, her kids are grown, with Vanderpump Rules, the bulk of her professional life is showcased elsewhere, and now with Vanderpump Dogs, her charity work will be on another show. If she isn't positioning herself to leave, she should be. She doesn't need RH's and she's boring. I don't hate Rinna, she's obnoxious, and I hate seeing her kids - but I like watching her hustle. Teddy is too new for me to have built up enough goodwill to overlook her clumsy manuevering. Also the sanctemeous accountability coach was caught in a lie trying to take down a woman whose brother committed suicide, recently. Kyle - she's a doe eyed snake, but I like watching her. Dorit, of all the housewives on all the shows, I can not stomach her, Nene, or the cancer scammer from the OC. Denise, I'd like to see her next year, because I'm not watching anymore of this year. Erika, no fun to watch, her glamour schtick, like LVPs house porn, is old. And she is cold. She brings nothing of herself, except her flashes of rage, to the show. Camille, I like her as a friend of, she brings a clear perspective, often, but much like Luanne from New York, when she feels the most confident, she is horrible. 9 Link to comment
Dutchgirl April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 12:50 PM, Lady of nod said: ....Teddy - ... Take those man hands and go work for Habitat for Humanity. In fact all these women could give back a little more than a cycling class for charity and an occasional visit to a soup kitchen. Thought it was just me that noticed those rock crushers. 9 2 Link to comment
KungFuBunny April 14, 2019 Author Share April 14, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Giselle said: LVP looked awful on WWHL. Way to much work done along with big ole horse, "Chrisley white" chompers. She looked & looks ridiculous. But she's the favorite Brothelebrity I don't even bother looking at her new teeth because all the other things she does is horrendous. I can't believe Eileen is older than LVP yet looks 20 years younger than her. I was having problems posting the pic from Instagram. The person who styled her noted that's not her hair but a hidden crown topper. If you look at her on VPR or on RHBH - she always has a Snooki Bump-It (only it's not her hair but a falsie slide in. What's left of her natural hair is super fried - she tries to blow out over the fake hair. She can definitely have an UglyNecklaceOff with Luann Edited April 14, 2019 by KungFuBunny 6 Link to comment
Giselle April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said: But she's the favorite Brothelebrity I don't even bother looking at her new teeth because all the other things she does is horrendous. I can't believe Eileen is older than LVP yet looks 20 years younger than her. I was having problems posting the pic from Instagram. The person who styled her noted that's not her hair but a hidden crown topper. If you look at her on VPR or on RHBH - she always has a Snooki Bump-It (only it's not her hair but a falsie slide in. What's left of her natural hair is super fried - she tries to blow out over the fake hair. She can definitely have an UglyNecklaceOff with Luann https://www.google.com/search?q=newscaster&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSmQEJ7GmhMml53DUajQELEKjU2AQaBggXCD4IQgwLELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKKwbpxvAH60b_1xuiEKgb0h_1TH_10buju7O6oxsDDIL_18vkTvHL70vrzAaME6PTvnKfcTno1s11NUDWmx4fRmcxAj6vgn5vReKsvj517_1IvYaVSDpFc-MiNt8wdSAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIE-kUuHQw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKkeGd5c_hAhVGqJ4KHYHKAVcQ2A4oAXoECAMQBA&biw=360&bih=650#imgrc=CaA8SboaLAGi8M Her teeth would look worse with out all of the facial and lip fillers. Sorry can't figure out how to grab this picture and post it. Edited April 14, 2019 by Giselle 1 Link to comment
Jel April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Dutchgirl said: Thought it was just me that noticed those rock crushers. I'm lolling at "rock crushers". 🙂 Is it her hands, or is it more how she always seems to have them so oddly positioned. They are always flying up. 3 3 Link to comment
Giselle April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jel said: I'm lolling at "rock crushers". 🙂 Is it her hands, or is it more how she always seems to have them so oddly positioned. They are always flying up. There are some who don't know how to position & use their hands gracefully even if they are man hands. Taking dance lessons as a kid really helped me learn to be graceful. I did hula and ballet but suck with hula longer. 6 Link to comment
Steph J April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 13 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said: I don't think the women are jealous of LVP because of her money or professional success. I think they are jealous because a.) She has a larger fan base and is HBIC on the show, and b.) outthinks and out manuvers them everytime. Also c) gets her own spinoff. I followed LVP to Vanderpump Rules and will absolutely follow her to Vanderpump Dogs, if that's actually going to be a thing. Hell, I would watch Lisa and Ken Hang out at Home with All Their Pets. But the other women? I can't imagine watching any of them on any other show (and some of them I don't even particularly like watching on this show), but I think that most of them (specifically Rinna, Erika, Dorit, and Kyle) would kill for a chance to have their own spinoff and I think that it chaps.their.asses that LVP gets opportunities that they don't. 21 Link to comment
langford peel April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 (edited) It is quite amazing how clueless these witches are to the extent of how they have lost the audience. This weekend Kyle and Erica are peddling the lie that the posts on social media attacking them are from “bots” presumably paid for by Lisa Vanderpump instead of the honest reaction of the majority of the audience. I think Satan Andy is getting worried that this is spinning out of control. Witness his panicked shilling and spinning on WWHL. Of course Satan Andy is clueless as to how normal people act in real life. He knew that Lisa wanted to meet his baby and he pretended that he was going to bring him on the show. Instead he brought out his misbehaving dog that tried to eat Jiggy. I bet Lisa loved that. What a clueless moron! Just now, langford peel said: Sorry duplicate post Edited April 14, 2019 by langford peel 2 14 Link to comment
bravofan27 April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 Random musings. I am going to take dance so I don't ever stomp around and/or hold my body in awkward positions. Camille was a dancer, and she's graceful to an extent, but when she is sitting, she does weird things with her head and shoulders that look awkward. Jane Fonda (granted not on this show) love or hate her, has nailed the art of poise. I think Luanne is also very good, in general, of having a good poise. It must be something taught, because there seems to be an art to it. LVP's hair is terrible. There are no words for how terrible it is. Too long, too dark, and always styled badly. Denise is catching on to the show. I thought she would be slower to warm up, but she's getting right into it now. Dorit looks like Uncle Fester with the big round eyes lined all the way around with thick black eyeliner. Her face is hard to look at. 1 19 3 Link to comment
Normades April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, bravofan27 said: Random musings. I am going to take dance so I don't ever stomp around and/or hold my body in awkward positions. Camille was a dancer, and she's graceful to an extent, but when she is sitting, she does weird things with her head and shoulders that look awkward. Jane Fonda (granted not on this show) love or hate her, has nailed the art of poise. I think Luanne is also very good, in general, of having a good poise. It must be something taught, because there seems to be an art to it. LVP's hair is terrible. There are no words for how terrible it is. Too long, too dark, and always styled badly. Denise is catching on to the show. I thought she would be slower to warm up, but she's getting right into it now. Dorit looks like Uncle Fester with the big round eyes lined all the way around with thick black eyeliner. Her face is hard to look at. You're right, but must we drag down Uncle Fester?? He's one of my faves!! 🙂 11 6 Link to comment
bravofan27 April 14, 2019 Share April 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, Normades said: You're right, but must we drag down Uncle Fester?? He's one of my faves!! 🙂 I think Uncle Fester would love being compared to a monster. LOL! 4 2 Link to comment
film noire April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, langford peel said: This weekend Kyle and Erica are peddling the lie that the posts on social media attacking them are from “bots” presumably paid for by Lisa Vanderpump Seriously? That's their big save? The invasion of the Bitches of Normandy? Here's the psychological terrain for LVP D-Day, you witless fucks: chalking up a widespread and impassioned audience reaction to paid bots will only offend everybody WHO ALREADY HATES YOU. Jesus. The stupid literally hurts with these twitholes (and thank god these idiots are limited to reality tv - we would be SO screwed otherwise - can you imagine these doucherinas in any scenario that genuinely matters? "Okay, Dorit, you're up! His name is Adolf. He likes tall blondes. Go tell him which glassware he should use to toast the Third Reich tonight - THAT'LL SHOW HIM BUT GOOD!") Edited April 15, 2019 by film noire 5 14 Link to comment
ivygirl April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 (edited) On 4/13/2019 at 12:27 PM, Rosiejuliemom said: I think she's talking out of her ass because she has to be involved in everything. My money is on Rinna as the leaker. Really? It Depends. ...I’ll see myself out. 10 hours ago, langford peel said: It is quite amazing how clueless these witches are to the extent of how they have lost the audience. This weekend Kyle and Erica are peddling the lie that the posts on social media attacking them are from “bots” presumably paid for by Lisa Vanderpump instead of the honest reaction of the majority of the audience. Twitter has a really strange way of deciding which tweets I “want” to get notifications about (half the time, it’s Elon Musk, which—meh; the other time, it’s political junk I don’t want) but anyway, today it decided I want LVP’s tweets. And she has been having some fun times with the bot stuff on Twitter today as well. I’ll post it in the Media thread. Edited April 15, 2019 by ivygirl 8 8 Link to comment
Mr. Miner April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 15 hours ago, langford peel said: Of course Satan Andy is clueless as to how normal people act in real life. He knew that Lisa wanted to meet his baby and he pretended that he was going to bring him on the show. Instead he brought out his misbehaving dog that tried to eat Jiggy. I bet Lisa loved that. Fuck Lisa! She couldn't be bothered with Andy's baby shower because Kyle had a big part in putting it together. I thought Wacha coming out and jumping on her was funny. Just something else for her to be butthurt about. Where was Ken? he could have rescued his queen...GOODBYE WACHA! 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post RHJunkie April 15, 2019 Popular Post Share April 15, 2019 41 minutes ago, Mr. Minor said: Fuck Lisa! She couldn't be bothered with Andy's baby shower because Kyle had a big part in putting it together. I thought Wacha coming out and jumping on her was funny. Just something else for her to be butthurt about. Where was Ken? he could have rescued his queen...GOODBYE WACHA! Love her or hate her, details are important. She didn't go to the baby shower because she had a business engagement in Vegas that weekend for her Caesar's cocktail garden restaurant. The same way that Luann didn't go because she had a cabaret show scheduled, and the same way Bethenny didn't go because she had a speaking engagement the day of. Some of them have various responsibilities outside of the Real Housewives world. But that said, I wouldn't be surprised if LVP was perfectly fine and breathed a sigh of relief that she had a reason not to go. And attending someone's baby shower isn't indicative of anything. Not going to a baby shower has nothing to do with a genuine interest in meeting someone's baby. Not sure why you're conflating the two. 25 Link to comment
RHJunkie April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 6 hours ago, film noire said: Seriously? That's their big save? The invasion of the Bitches of Normandy? Here's the psychological terrain for LVP D-Day, you witless fucks: chalking up a widespread and impassioned audience reaction to paid bots will only offend everybody WHO ALREADY HATES YOU. Jesus. The stupid literally hurts with these twitholes (and thank god these idiots are limited to reality tv - we would be SO screwed otherwise - can you imagine these doucherinas in any scenario that genuinely matters? "Okay, Dorit, you're up! His name is Adolf. He likes tall blondes. Go tell him which glassware he should use to toast the Third Reich tonight - THAT'LL SHOW HIM BUT GOOD!") These ladies are making it easy for LVP to soak up all of the sympathies because they're a bunch of idiots who are masquerading as moral compasses who speak the truth only, have only good intentions and somehow have this cognitive ability to determine what the truth is (without proof) and then speaking on it as though it's the absolute truth. It's infuriating how stupid they are with the way they are handling this thing. 16 Link to comment
Giselle April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 14 hours ago, bravofan27 said: Random musings. I am going to take dance so I don't ever stomp around and/or hold my body in awkward positions. Camille was a dancer, and she's graceful to an extent, but when she is sitting, she does weird things with her head and shoulders that look awkward. Jane Fonda (granted not on this show) love or hate her, has nailed the art of poise. I think Luanne is also very good, in general, of having a good poise. It must be something taught, because there seems to be an art to it. LVP's hair is terrible. There are no words for how terrible it is. Too long, too dark, and always styled badly. Denise is catching on to the show. I thought she would be slower to warm up, but she's getting right into it now. Dorit looks like Uncle Fester with the big round eyes lined all the way around with thick black eyeliner. Her face is hard to look at. Ooooooh.... dang, they do look a lot alike. Who I believe nailed the art of poise are the "immortals"...Audrey Hepburn and Jackie Kennedy, Grace Kelly & Cary Grant. Those were the examples my mom told me to watch and emulate. You can tell when she grew up. She also said to it was important to watch a persons unconscious actions in unexpected moments and learn from it. Charm school needs to come back. Walk, eat, dance, converse, grooming and manners. There is a lot to be said for poise and deportment. I loved the summer my grandmother had me go charm school. It reinforced and added to what my parents instilled in us. It also helped us learn adapt to situations, and to put people at ease. To this day unconsciously I still will properly take a coat on and off and approach a chair. I do send written thank you notes. I can read a room. I'm trying to teach my niece social graces, some of it is sticking but her parents don't reinforce it. 1 10 Link to comment
Mr. Miner April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, RHJunkie said: LVP was perfectly fine and breathed a sigh of relief that she had a reason not to go. I doubt that she was missed. Still funny AF when Andy brought the dog out instead of the baby. 3 Link to comment
RHJunkie April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, Mr. Minor said: I doubt that she was missed. Still funny AF when Andy brought the dog out instead of the baby. I don't doubt that either. Just pointing out that her not attending the baby shower has nothing to do with her interest in wanting to meet his son. 8 Link to comment
langford peel April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 The one important thing that Satan Andy’s cruelty and dishonesty proved is that Lisa would be a fool to attend the Reunion. From lying that a clip of Kyle defending Rinna was one of Kyle defending Vanderpump.....to his blatant lies that Kyle was defending Lisa to the other woman....to unleashing his out of control untrained dog on a defenseless Jiggy....Satan Andy displayed how he would passively aggressive attack Lisa during the reunion which would be a set up and a gang bullying extravaganza. Lisa should be wise enough to do her negotiating with the people above Andy Cohen and leave him to plumb the depths of Doritos intelligence....Rinna’s compassion....Erica’s warmth....Teddi’s authenticity....and Kyles loyalty that has lead to her entire extended family not talking to her. That would be some reunion. Lisa should spend the time opening another successful bar. GET OUT ANDY!!!!’ 14 Link to comment
Happy Camper April 15, 2019 Share April 15, 2019 7 hours ago, langford peel said: The one important thing that Satan Andy’s cruelty and dishonesty proved is that Lisa would be a fool to attend the Reunion. From lying that a clip of Kyle defending Rinna was one of Kyle defending Vanderpump.....to his blatant lies that Kyle was defending Lisa to the other woman....to unleashing his out of control untrained dog on a defenseless Jiggy....Satan Andy displayed how he would passively aggressive attack Lisa during the reunion which would be a set up and a gang bullying extravaganza. Lisa should be wise enough to do her negotiating with the people above Andy Cohen and leave him to plumb the depths of Doritos intelligence....Rinna’s compassion....Erica’s warmth....Teddi’s authenticity....and Kyles loyalty that has lead to her entire extended family not talking to her. That would be some reunion. Lisa should spend the time opening another successful bar. GET OUT ANDY!!!!’ Andy is the worst. He has chosen the wrong team to back. He will double down at the reunion and hopefully that will be his downfall. 10 Link to comment
Chit Chat April 16, 2019 Share April 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Mr. Minor said: Still funny AF when Andy brought the dog out instead of the baby. I don't think it bothered her as much as people wanted it to. I thought it was a dick move on his part though, but not surprising. 7 Link to comment
Dutchgirl April 16, 2019 Share April 16, 2019 On 4/14/2019 at 10:01 AM, KungFuBunny said: But she's the favorite Brothelebrity I don't even bother looking at her new teeth because all the other things she does is horrendous. I can't believe Eileen is older than LVP yet looks 20 years younger than her. I was having problems posting the pic from Instagram. The person who styled her noted that's not her hair but a hidden crown topper. If you look at her on VPR or on RHBH - she always has a Snooki Bump-It (only it's not her hair but a falsie slide in. What's left of her natural hair is super fried - she tries to blow out over the fake hair. She can definitely have an UglyNecklaceOff with Luann omg I had no idea Eileen was older than LVP...that is actually shocking. LVP's teeth...my god, what is going on there? They look crooked, like they're over-filled on one side. Just god awful. 1 2 Link to comment
KungFuBunny April 16, 2019 Author Share April 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said: omg I had no idea Eileen was older than LVP...that is actually shocking. LVP's teeth...my god, what is going on there? They look crooked, like they're over-filled on one side. Just god awful. I think LVP might have pulled a Zsa Zsa Gabor move with her birth certificate. 2 4 Link to comment
Giselle April 16, 2019 Share April 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dutchgirl said: omg I had no idea Eileen was older than LVP...that is actually shocking. LVP's teeth...my god, what is going on there? They look crooked, like they're over-filled on one side. Just god awful. The lip injections don't help either The awful hat looks like something Asa Soltan would make. Edited April 16, 2019 by Giselle 2 2 Link to comment
nexxie April 16, 2019 Share April 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Giselle said: The lip injections don't help either The awful hat looks like something Asa Soltan would make. Grossly distorted lips are something LVP and Brandi have in common now. 5 Link to comment
BodhiGurl April 17, 2019 Share April 17, 2019 Rewatch before the new epi... this time I noticed the scene with Dorito using a nutribullet... How friggen dumb are you to not figure out how it works, and to run away from it? Nevermind... Dorito... 'nuff said. Also - eegads, smoothies are not that awful. I make one with baby spinach, frozen wild blueberries, and water. After blending I add cha cha cha chia seeds... tastes fine... I mean - given the fact Dorito probably never eats sugar, her taste buds should be acclimated... ah, nevermind. It's Dorito... sigh. I hope she's gone after this season, but I doubt it... 6 Link to comment
MrsWitter April 17, 2019 Share April 17, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 6:50 PM, bravofan27 said: I think Dorit mean't that he was pre-diabetic. I'm sure she'll correct herself at the reunion. I’m not an expert on diabetes, but my understanding is that once you’re getting blood sugar readings above 300, you’re diabetic. 1 Link to comment
MatildaMoody April 17, 2019 Share April 17, 2019 6 hours ago, MrsWitter said: I’m not an expert on diabetes, but my understanding is that once you’re getting blood sugar readings above 300, you’re diabetic. I have type 2 diabetes anything over 100 is pre- to full-on diabetes. A reading over 300 suggests that he is not treating his diabetes at all and is in real danger of a stroke or heart attack. Before I found out I was diabetic, I had a heart attack. My blood sugar reading was 201. The heart attack was how I found out I was diabetic. I was extremely lucky. PK knows he is diabetic and isn't doing anything to treat it. He is playing Russian Roulette with his health. 5 Link to comment
Rosebud1970 April 20, 2019 Share April 20, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 6:37 PM, tranquilidade said: Dorit is an idiot, type 2 doesn’t turn into type 1 they are different disorders and in fact many doctors view type 2 as a worse disease as it can be difficult to treat. Laughing off 318 BG levels is rather stupid considering the damage this can cause. These people make me sick. Yes, a thousand times. Type 2 doesn't 'tip over' (or whatever ridiculousness Dorit was babbling). Type 1 is an immune disorder; Type 2 is acquired via poor lifestyle habits and its effects can be reversed. Type 1 cannot and is only controllable via insulin injections. Frankly, I don't care if the Boiled Ham eats and drinks himself into an early grave. A blood sugar reading of 318 should kill a horse. 2 Link to comment
Teri313 April 27, 2019 Share April 27, 2019 So these women were offended that they weren't invited to LVP's birthday party ... did they invite her to their dinner at Beauty & Essex? It looked like they were all there - Rinna, Erika, Dorit, Kyle, Camille, Teddi, Denise. Obviously Lisa would have declined because it was her birthday, but I'd like to know if they even extended an invite. The gossip about LVP's dental work was disgusting. I reverted right back to Camille's first season when I couldn't stand her. I thought it was especially gross when she said, "At least you can stand her breath [now]." With friends like that ... crap. And finally, it is clear that LVP tries to drive the storylines (e.g., the stupid Yolanda/Munchausen(sp?) thing, and this season trying to get Teddi to help push the Dorit/shelter dog drama). Okay, fine - that said, it clearly bugs Rinna, but isn't it crossing the line production-wise for Rinna to keep trying to out the storyline tactics? I mean, why would LVP to do those things in real life? She wouldn't. If she's doing it, it's clearly to inject some drama into the show, so why does Rinna keep screaming about it? Rinna's a pretty boring cast member on her own. She should be thanking LVP for trying to liven things up. 2 Link to comment
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