S07.E11: Jeanne's Story

[Minivanessa]

15 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I do NOT say this to be mean at all.  My mind went to just get the hose and step outside and rinse off.  Her life literally depends on it.  After the mom was out of the hospital Jeanne seemed able to walk across the home to her mom's room.  Perhaps she can do more for herself when push comes to shove.  

13 hours ago, Mothra said:

I don't think that's mean.  It looks like their house is fairly isolated; maybe she could put up clotheslines with sheets over them for privacy.  And you're right--another fecal infection could be fatal, especially if she has dropped out of Dr. Now's program, because she was obviously not getting good medical care before she went to Texas.

Because I've watched way too many episodes of this show, my mind went immediately to Nicole, and that introductory scene of her "showering" on the back porch of her house. At the time that was seriously snark-worthy stuff,  but at least she stood a chance of getting clean. Which of course ranks her far above Jeanne as to hygiene.

[calpurnia99]

Im going to watch the Supersized. I just finished the Super Sized Holly episode and they show 2 great clips of her cheating. It was her last chance after 2 failed weigh-ins and there is a freaking apple pie in the kitchen. The boyfriend gives her a "small" slice and watches her eat it with a shit eating grin on his face. Then there is a gigantic bag of candy in the closet. She has cravings, yet they have this in the house? You can't make this shit up, so I'm sure the new episode might show us a few scenes of exactly what Jeanne was eating. 

Also they showed Holly showering, even though she said it was so exhausting and wore her out for the day she tries to do it a few times a week. Their house was also a pigsty. When they moved to Houston, they brought the pigsty with them.  Jeanne's mom was limping around before the surgery with Dr. Now. She could barely walk.

Edited March 19, 2019 by calpurnia99

[CatherineM]

Jeanne’s mom is going to rip open her incision if she has to take care of her daughter by herself. 

[AVM]

6 hours ago, CatherineM said:

Jeanne’s mom is going to rip open her incision if she has to take care of her daughter by herself. 

I think the reason the Mother was in the condition she is in ,is from taking care of her daughter who is too lazy and or manipulative to get up and make her own food ,let alone clean herself.

[Twopper]

On 3/15/2019 at 2:11 PM, libgirl2 said:

I saw that. Not even a salt shaker.... they probably don't even have one in their house. 

Not in defense of Jeanne, but the last salt I bought only had only the opening for the spout and not one for using it as a shaker.  I was mildly annoyed, but I probably have 4-5 sets of salt and pepper shakers.  I suppose I could donate one to her.  Or not........

[crazycatlady58]

11 minutes ago, Twopper said:

Not in defense of Jeanne, but the last salt I bought only had only the opening for the spout and not one for using it as a shaker.  I was mildly annoyed, but I probably have 4-5 sets of salt and pepper shakers.  I suppose I could donate one to her.  Or not........

I have been wanting to comment about her salt use. Some people have said that she needs to use other things instead of salt ,garlic ect. I love my salt, yes I use other things also but from a child I have always used a lot of salt. Nothing will take the place of that. Having said that I am older and my blood pressure is higher than my doctor and I like so you know what ? I am not using salt. I miss it and use other things but still miss my salt. Why do I do this? Because I am a grown a@@ adult and do not want to have a stroke and be unable to take care of myself because I have no family to help me. 

[calpurnia99]

38 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

I have been wanting to comment about her salt use. Some people have said that she needs to use other things instead of salt ,garlic ect. I love my salt, yes I use other things also but from a child I have always used a lot of salt. Nothing will take the place of that. Having said that I am older and my blood pressure is higher than my doctor and I like so you know what ? I am not using salt. I miss it and use other things but still miss my salt. Why do I do this? Because I am a grown a@@ adult and do not want to have a stroke and be unable to take care of myself because I have no family to help me. 

As far as salt goes, I think you develop a tolerance. For someone who uses a little, a few sprinkles taste exactly the same as Jeanne putting 3 tablespoons on. After awhile you need more and more to get the same taste effect. I think that if you stopped, your tolerance may decrease and you could use a few sprinkles and will taste like it did before when you used a lot. Although since you have high blood pressure the best thing is to cut it out completely. But I wonder if a tiny bit now would give the same taste result as what you used to use.  

[crazycatlady58]

2 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

As far as salt goes, I think you develop a tolerance. For someone who uses a little, a few sprinkles taste exactly the same as Jeanne putting 3 tablespoons on. After awhile you need more and more to get the same taste effect. I think that if you stopped, your tolerance may decrease and you could use a few sprinkles and will taste like it did before when you used a lot. Although since you have high blood pressure the best thing is to cut it out completely. But I wonder if a tiny bit now would give the same taste result as what you used to use.  

That's a thought. When I get my b.p. down I will  try that. It will not kill me not to have it I just miss it.

[Pepper Mostly]

On 3/15/2019 at 10:11 PM, DC Gal in VA said:

ProTourist ITA but I would like to add one more thing. Every time I watch M600PL I fantasize about showing these folks how to cook, in particular that food can taste good AND be good for you. It pains me to see week after week the sad, often unappetizing meals our poundticipants are preparing, and they always have that same hang dog expression of misery as they cook and eat their Dr. Now approved meal. Also many, perhaps most, will say the same thing, something like "This is not what I really want to eat, but I HAVE to do it if I want to get approved for weight loss surgery." We see the same sad shit: bagged salads, broccoli, boneless skinless chicken breasts; wash rinse repeat.

From reading the comments of fellow Pounders here who have had WLS, I know that these folks get information/counseling from a dietician/nutritionist at the beginning and aren't just given a diet and told "good luck." However, I have seen that a lot of these nutritionists aren't exactly foodies. For instance, I do low carb high protein to lose weight, however some of the meal suggestions by low carb nutritionists are positively gagtastic. Here's one nutritionist's suggestion for a low carb snack: several sheets of nori (pressed seaweed) and a few strawberries. Seriously. I mean, WTF? BTW, not knocking seaweed because I love sushi.

I cook, or prepare in the case of protein shakes, all of my meals/snacks and I loathe unappetizing, bland food. I use all kinds of recipes and ingredients to make my food appetizing. Also, I am not stuck in just eating American cuisine and love to cook foods from other cultures.

I would love, for a reasonable fee, to cook tasty meals and snacks for them and show them how easy it is to do that for themselves.

I say this every single week! They have internet literally at their fingertips! There are dozens, hundreds of cookbooks out there that are focused on healthy eating. A poundticipant who was on just a couple of weeks ago was a professionally trained chef for crying out loud, and she couldn't figure out a way to make skinless chicken tasty? I am side eyeing like MAD.

On 3/16/2019 at 10:54 AM, zillabreeze said:

Books were (and still are) the great escape and possible path out of life's darknesses.   But when was the last time you saw someone on public transportation or in a resto holding a book?  If you did, that was probably me.

I always have a book with me. Always. You never know when you might get stuck somewhere. I don't have a smart phone and I don't like to read on devices. So, maybe me, too!

On 3/16/2019 at 7:41 PM, Twopper said:

Yes, I think there still is common law marriage in  Texas, but I haven't researched it.  I think he and Barbara had been back together for about 7-8 years so maybe they did marry.   If she was the one in charge of the funeral, she would have told them what to put in the obituary.   I  tried to find the obit, but I didn't recall his first name so I didn't find it  Would you link, please.

Even so, who's going to fact check an obituary for a not famous person? The family writes them and submits them. If the family thought of Barbara as his wife that's what they'd call her.

On 3/19/2019 at 10:10 AM, calpurnia99 said:

Im going to watch the Supersized. I just finished the Super Sized Holly episode and they show 2 great clips of her cheating. It was her last chance after 2 failed weigh-ins and there is a freaking apple pie in the kitchen. The boyfriend gives her a "small" slice and watches her eat it with a shit eating grin on his face. Then there is a gigantic bag of candy in the closet. She has cravings, yet they have this in the house? You can't make this shit up, so I'm sure the new episode might show us a few scenes of exactly what Jeanne was eating. 

I am totally watching the supersized episode since I missed so much of the original trying to keep up with the live chat!

[Tabbygirl521]

I don’t mean to sound flippant but I’m a healthy, relatively fit 65 years old. I have two little grandkids and I found it fairly exhausting to deal for a full day with their diapers and relatively minimal “output” - I mean, compared to a 600-pounder! I cannot imagine how someone with Jeanne’s mom’s health issues could think she could handle Jeanne - and clearly, she CAN’T. It is just a horrible situation and they surely need home health care. Divert some of that enormous fast food budget and hire someone once in a while if insurance doesn’t cover it. **shudder**

[Natalie68]

7 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said:

I have been wanting to comment about her salt use. Some people have said that she needs to use other things instead of salt ,garlic ect. I love my salt, yes I use other things also but from a child I have always used a lot of salt. Nothing will take the place of that. Having said that I am older and my blood pressure is higher than my doctor and I like so you know what ? I am not using salt. I miss it and use other things but still miss my salt. Why do I do this? Because I am a grown a@@ adult and do not want to have a stroke and be unable to take care of myself because I have no family to help me. 

That scene resonated with me and Mr. Natalie.  He recently was told to cut back on salt due to slightly elevated blood pressure and take his bp 2X/week before his next appt.  He did exactly what the dr ordered and his blood pressure is now in a normal and healthy range (it actually only took 1 week).  Seeing her pour it out from the container rather than a shaker was disturbing.  Almost as disturbing as the meals themselves.  I am still surprised her heart was still ticking.  Between the large meals full of a massive amount of fat and sodium to her smoking it is amazing.  

[DC Gal in VA]

Sooooooo I'm re-watching just the first hour or so of Jeanne's episode to see the stuff that I missed out on while trying to keep up with last week's Live Chat. Also, wanted to make sure that I still feel the same way about Jeanne and didn't rush to judgment. The verdict: she's still an awful hose beast and I still can't stand her.

Edited March 20, 2019 by DC Gal in VA

[DC Gal in VA]

Just wanted to say that I would really like to see an update on Jeanne and have her prove me wrong that she has absolutely no chance in Hell of losing enough weight to qualify for WLS as well as be disciplined enough to keep losing weight afterwards. I would especially hope to see that her mom has made a full recovery and is way healthier than we last saw her. As for those nine dogs, I hope to see that their situation has improved either with them (highly unlikely IMHO) or, preferably, adopted out to families that will give them the care and attention they deserve.

[Elizzikra]

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As far as salt goes, I think you develop a tolerance. For someone who uses a little, a few sprinkles taste exactly the same as Jeanne putting 3 tablespoons on. After awhile you need more and more to get the same taste effect. I think that if you stopped, your tolerance may decrease and you could use a few sprinkles and will taste like it did before when you used a lot. Although since you have high blood pressure the best thing is to cut it out completely. But I wonder if a tiny bit now would give the same taste result as what you used to use.  

Since she is a long term smoker, her taste buds are dead. If she quit smoking, she would be amazed how much better food would taste and I don't think she would be able to tolerate so much salt.

[Sir RaiderDuck OMS]

On 3/16/2019 at 10:25 AM, DC Gal in VA said:

Who knows how many of his patients died before their time as well? I think that may be the reason why he gets so angry, more so over these last couple of years, because I truly believe that it breaks his heart to give the Jeannes of this world the tools to lose weight and have a shot at a normal life and they just piss away that opportunity.

He addressed that in one episode a few seasons ago. He told some obstinate patient (paraphasing): "I see people like you all the time who refuse to put in the work. I keep telling them they need to follow the diet and move around and they keep saying 'Yeah, yeah, I'll get around to do it.' Then one day, I get a call from the morgue at the hospital asking me to come down and identify their body. And that's their story."

[Concerned]

Watching the supersized now. Add to the bingo game the extreme close up of disgusting food being shoveled into the hole between fat cheeks. Either somebody needs to bat that garbage out of her hands or the cameraman has to get off her lap.

[Guest]

I'm watching the Supersized episode now and here is the critical "bonus" information that TLC has bestowed upon us:

* Jeanne and her mom like to watch comedy shows on TV
* Jeanne's favorite foods are pizza and cheesecake.

If TLC cares so little about this show, just cancel it already. 

[fonfereksglen]

17 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

I'm watching the Supersized episode now and here is the critical "bonus" information that TLC has bestowed upon us:

* Jeanne and her mom like to watch comedy shows on TV
* Jeanne's favorite foods are pizza and cheesecake.

If TLC cares so little about this show, just cancel it already. 

I'm clicking back and forth between hoops games and this mess.  The original supersized was interesting for the one hour episodes, because they showed several deleted scenes. Now it is a bloated mess.

However, TLC is so lacking in programs that they have actually filmed a Kate Gosselin dating show!  And that is why the Supersized keeps being edited with nothing of substance added other than promos for TLC shows I never have and never will watch.

And apparently  she likes Dr. Now because he is kind to the obese

Edited March 22, 2019 by fonfereksglen

[Hellga]

I am also watching the supersized show.

The house was noticeably less trashed in the beginning.  Either Dad was the one trying to at least pick up garbage, or it was both Mom and Dad but after he died and dogs were ransacking the house for several days and then Jeanne and Mom came back with MOm being unable to do anything and Jeanne probably just tossing stuff on the floor to add to the mess it got the toxic horrid pile that it became in the end.

They mentioned pizza and cheesecake as her favorite foods - I am surprised she actually has favorite foods, I thought she just shoveled everything into her mouth indiscriminately.  Not like she can taste anything after killing her tastebuds with smoking and salt overuse that she has. 

[Hellga]

When Jeanne said "the people are jerks" I wanted to scream that the biggest (in every sense!) jerk on this show is her.  She is the moron who smokes next to a gas pump and gets surprised people point at her!  I get it she has never driven a car, but certainly even as a passenger she can't get unaware? 

I am also finding it hard to believe her stories about her Grandmother anymore.  Given how angry and delusional she is shown on the show, and how she was lying about her eating - I would say it is 60 to 40 she was lying about Grandma's treatment of her as well.  After all, she said Grandma beat her - certainly her mother would have noticed the welts/bruises!?

[Caoimhe]

“All I need is weight loss surgery”.  No, you can’t even follow a diet so it really wouldn’t help for long.  

[Hellga]

The way she instantly crossed her arms when Dr. Now was saying she needs to lose weight before he will even consider weight loss surgery, and how her voice changed, it was showing she would not lose any weight.  She did not want to put any effort in from the very beginning. 

[Minivanessa]

4 minutes ago, ThereButFor said:

“All I need is weight loss surgery”.  No, you can’t even follow a diet so it really wouldn’t help for long.  

YES. I'm watching this again mostly to see if I misjudged Jeanne's level of delusion. She seemed to never really get a handle on what would actually have to happen in order for her to lose weight. It was "weight loss surgery" as this magic thing that would cause weight loss. She never changed her food intake enough to lose anything like the amounts that Dr. Now set for her and I don't think she ever intended to make such changes. 

The bonus scenes of Barbara (Jeanne's mother) and Dr. Now in the hospital before her hernia repair surgery are interesting. Barbara seems a lot sharper than Jeanne, and she seemed to relate well to Dr. Now. 

[Hellga]

I guess the redeeming quality is that they rescue dogs - their 9 dogs were all abandoned and they found them by the side of the road and took them in - but given that their dogs live only marginally better than their feral brethren, I don't know if that's much of a redemption. 

[Hellga]

She is such a child thinking that if she apologizes and promises to do better next time all will be forgiven and well.   The woman is almost 40 but her mental age is somewhere in the  early teens. 

Her talking about "shoving my progress" in Dr. Now's face reminded me of how some kids would say that if I went and died they would all be sorry they were mean to me.  Yuck.

Edited March 22, 2019 by Hellga

[CrazyInAlabama]

I cringed at the scene at Dr Now's office where he said Jeanne was infected again, and the mother was very close to having her abdominal skin rupture.   So on the way out Miss Whiny Britches is doing her voice over of "Woe, is me." and "Dr Now just doesn't understand me".     Then her mother, who was just told she was seconds from having her skin split, and her intestines pop out, hoists her daughter to her feet.     Jeanne has beaten her mother down for so long, that her mother was endangering her own life to help her daughter.    

So they call for a welfare check on the dad, find out he's deceased, and Jeanne talks about how hard this is on her mother, and doesn't even say anything to her, or try to comfort her.  

[Minivanessa]

Oh, man. In the scene after her mom's surgery and before they find out her dad died, Jeanne is talking about how she just can't wait to get home where she is comfortable and "has control." 

Yes, Jeanne, we've seen how well you manage your weight when you're in control. 

I assume by "having control" she means being able to smoke and eat what she wants.

[Hellga]

I am sitting here wondering whether her "I was working as hard as I could" (to lose meager 8 pounds over two months) was distorted perception of what hard work meant (two leg lifts = godawful effort?) or a consequence of her old normal being so far outside the normal range (gaining 29 pounds in a month, basically a pound a day, is a special achievement!  the average for US women is 1-1,5 pounds A YEAR and we still have obesity epidemics!) that even going really, really down on her food intake was still nowhere near normal.  Probably both.

[fonfereksglen]

1 minute ago, Jeeves said:

Oh, man. In the scene after her mom's surgery and before they find out her dad died, Jeanne is talking about how she just can't wait to get home where she is comfortable and "has control." 

Yes, Jeanne, we've seen how well you manage your weight when you're in control. 

I assume by "having control" she means being able to smoke and eat what she wants.

With the constant shaking.....what other withdrawal was/is going on?  

[Hellga]

31 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I cringed at the scene at Dr Now's office where he said Jeanne was infected again, and the mother was very close to having her abdominal skin rupture.   So on the way out Miss Whiny Britches is doing her voice over of "Woe, is me." and "Dr Now just doesn't understand me".     Then her mother, who was just told she was seconds from having her skin split, and her intestines pop out, hoists her daughter to her feet.     Jeanne has beaten her mother down for so long, that her mother was endangering her own life to help her daughter.   

Thanks for pointing it out.   I missed it, and I rewinded to it now - and it almost made me throw up.  Jeanne is a selfish bitch.  And then she dared to complain about having to go to the hospital with her mom.  That's just awful.  

And in the extra scene, I really felt for Barbara.  She puts herself dead last, thinking always of taking care of her ungrateful blob of a daughter.  Poor woman.  It was nice how she was joking with Dr. Now.  

Edited March 22, 2019 by Hellga

[JunkFoodTV]

Why didn't someone from the community come tidy the house, donate a new bed, bring some food? It's what you do after a loss. 

[fonfereksglen]

3 minutes ago, JunkFoodTV said:

Why didn't someone from the community come tidy the house, donate a new bed, bring some food? It's what you do after a loss. 

Much like the people that are hoarders,  many others for multiple reasons, self isolate to hide what is going on behind the front door.

[Minivanessa]

2 minutes ago, JunkFoodTV said:

Why didn't someone from the community come tidy the house, donate a new bed, bring some food? It's what you do after a loss. 

I think this shows that this family has been living in isolation. 

When they hadn't been able to reach Jeanne's dad by phone from Houston, Jeanne called the Sheriff's office to do a welfare check. If they had friends or family nearby I'd have expected her to ask one of them to go check on her dad.

@fonfereksglen posted as I was writing this. What with Jeanne's dad's schizophrenia, Jeanne's condition, and everything else, I can see them not letting anyone get close.

[JunkFoodTV]

5 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

Much like the people that are hoarders,  many others for multiple reasons, self isolate to hide what is going on behind the front door.

True, but I live in a small community and the people from our sheriff's office would do it themselves because that's what you do for an older widow woman. Just saying.....😇

I would be hard pressed to do ANYTHING for Jeanne. 

[fonfereksglen]

1 minute ago, JunkFoodTV said:

True, but I live in a small community and the people from our sheriff's office would do it themselves because that's what you do for an older widow woman. Just saying.....😇

I would be hard pressed to do ANYTHING for Jeanne. 

My brother is alive because a co-worker was worried after he missed two days of work and eventually tracked down a family member who called 911.  But that involved people who actually care. 

Jeanne's mom said Jeanne never left the house nor talked on the phone to anyone.  How could anyone  help them?  

[Hellga]

I thought her final words are quote-worthy and quite telling.  "I have to trust that if I am patient, I will still have a chance to work hard to get the life I want."  Girl, working hard needs no chances by definition!  Specific goals may have to be adjusted based on the circumstances, but working hard only requires a mindset and is ALWAYS an option.  I guess in her delusional mind, "work hard" equals "want really hard so someone gives it to me". 

[Hellga]

42 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

Jeanne's mom said Jeanne never left the house nor talked on the phone to anyone.  How could anyone  help them?  

Let's be honest, given what we have seen of Jeanne, would you want to be friends with her?  Neither do I and everyone else around her, it appears.    Barbara seemed like a nice and fun person in the extra clip with Dr. Now - I suppose the only reason she isolated herself is because she put herself into her horrid daughter service 24/7 and lost any friends she may have had earlier because Jeanne didn't want anyone else distracting mother dear from serving her. 

[mlzukowski]

Could Jeanne blame any more people for her inadequacies and failures in life? At some point, individuals have to take some responsibility for their situation regardless of what traumas they have suffered. Sadly, countless people have undergone unbelievable acts of horror which are so astonishing and sad, but make a contentious decision to either continue to whine, complain and blame others or make changes to create a life worth living.

Jeanne's continuous blathering of how others are causing her misfortune in addition to her overall general poor attitude towards everyone ("I hate people"), including the people who are bending over backwards to help her, is disgusting.

Dr. Now gives ample opportunity to assist in any and every way to change her situation for the better, but she just wants a quick fix without putting any effort whatsoever into these changes.

The living quarters in which the family reside are atrocious. The lack of hygiene was beyond the pale. If one is not aware of the fact that residual feces is causing infection on the body and you are too large to shower or clean yourself, you have a severe mental issue. I feel like crying for those poor dogs living in their own (and their human's) filth. Never mind the dust and cobwebs on every wall, those pups are certainly not vetted nor cared for in an appropriate manner. The dogs should be taken from them, treated and rehomed, the residence should be burned to the ground, and Jeanne should be left to her own devices as she seems to have all the answers and can treat herself (although can't seem to wipe her own ass). As she prefers to live devoid of human interaction, by all means, please continue to allow her to do so and decrease the surplus population. 

[Ladygold]

I’m a newcomer to watching this show, and just finished watching the supersized show about Jeanne. Omg!  Jeanne & her mentally ill mother just grossed me out !   Jeanne is a pathetic piece of shit (literally!) and her mother is just not able to help because of her insanity.  But they live in filth and wallow in self pity.  I’ve read all the other comments and agree with all of them.  And like many of you, the part where her mother is trying to wash the shit off her daughters ass and seeing that gross, foul infectious piece of flesh hanging off her made me almost throw up!  And those poor flea-bitten dogs!  Shocking!!  

What I want to know however, is if Jeanne reads these comments!  I hope someone shows her what people are saying about her.  But I doubt if even that will affect how she is or help.   She is killing her self and frankly I don’t feel sorry for her one little bit.  She is a snotty, unfriendly, pathetic, sniveling, ignorant, disgusting excuse for a human being. Hope you’re reading this Jeanne!  

[Caoimhe]

1 hour ago, Ladygold said:

What I want to know however, is if Jeanne reads these comments!  I hope someone shows her what people are saying about her.  But I doubt if even that will affect how she is or help.   She is killing her self and frankly I don’t feel sorry for her one little bit.  She is a snotty, unfriendly, pathetic, sniveling, ignorant, disgusting excuse for a human being. Hope you’re reading this Jeanne!  

But Jeanne hates people so even if she did read any of this she would just complain to her poor downtrodden mother that everyone is so vicious and mean to poor victims like herself.  

[Twopper]

10 hours ago, Jeeves said:

The bonus scenes of Barbara (Jeanne's mother) and Dr. Now in the hospital before her hernia repair surgery are interesting. Barbara seems a lot sharper than Jeanne, and she seemed to relate well to Dr. Now. 

Yes!! this is the only part of the Supersized epi that I have seen.  I had left TLC on last night when we went out to dinner, and when I came in it was the bonus section with Barbara and Dr. Now, and they were bantering back and forth.  She did seem pretty sharp,and I actually liked her in that moment.    And in the original we saw his concern for her when her husband died. 

Btw, my eating habit last night was not good. We went out for a light supper at a friend's house for someone's birthday party where we were served sandwiches, chips, and the worst forbidden  food ever---grapes.  I did eat grapes--that's two days in a row.  I am doomed; Dr. Now might not give me more chances.   Also I had a piece of coconut cake and a piece of rhubarb pie.  There was also apple pie, but I passed on it.  

10 hours ago, Hellga said:

The way she instantly crossed her arms when Dr. Now was saying she needs to lose weight before he will even consider weight loss surgery, and how her voice changed, it was showing she would not lose any weight.  She did not want to put any effort in from the very beginning. 

While that is true, I have noticed the crossed arms position in a lot of patients who don't seem resistant.  I think while we would normally have our hands in our laps or put our arms on the chair arms, these patients of his are so obese that they have no laps, and they overflow the chair so the chair arms are useless for them.   But you are right,  Jeanne's position screamed resistance.

[libgirl2]

11 hours ago, Jeeves said:

YES. I'm watching this again mostly to see if I misjudged Jeanne's level of delusion. She seemed to never really get a handle on what would actually have to happen in order for her to lose weight. It was "weight loss surgery" as this magic thing that would cause weight loss. She never changed her food intake enough to lose anything like the amounts that Dr. Now set for her and I don't think she ever intended to make such changes. 

The bonus scenes of Barbara (Jeanne's mother) and Dr. Now in the hospital before her hernia repair surgery are interesting. Barbara seems a lot sharper than Jeanne, and she seemed to relate well to Dr. Now. 

I noticed that too. I wondered how she got herself into this whole mess! She was very articulate. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I think Jeanne's mother felt guilty that she was raised without a father around.   It doesn't make sense, but I've known several women who had deadbeat, or husbands that abandoned and left them and the kids, and the women still blamed themselves that the father left.   It's not logical, but it happens.   I think Jeanne gave her mother a guilt trip every time she opened her mouth.       I really wonder if the mother was even asked about Jeanne talking to the father after so many years, and then he shows up and moves into the trailer, and stays for 10 years?       Jeanne is a professional victim, nothing is her fault, and everyone picks on her.     

Edited March 23, 2019 by CrazyInAlabama

[Yokosmom]

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I noticed that too. I wondered how she got herself into this whole mess! She was very articulate. 

I think that there are a number of things going on with Barbara.  She's in a part of the country where social services are lacking and she is isolated from friends and neighbors (or seems to be).  If you never go out, it is easier not to notice that your home is slowly turning into a shithole. She's depressed--she has to care for two mentally ill family members.  I'll bet you money that Jeanne tells her mom that it is all her fault because she left her with Evil Grandma and allowed her to be molested and that's the reason why her daughter weighs as much as a minibus. 

However, Barbara feeds that ravenous maw all day instead of telling her daughter that once she gets to the point that she can't wipe herself, it's diet time.  Her diet is horrible, but Jeanne would be mobile if she wasn't scarfing down a million calories a day, even on crap food.  I never understand why family enablers give in to the whining to the point that they end up being an servant to a person who has deliberately disabled themselves.  They cause much of their own misery.  In Barbara's case, I think that she is just beaten down.

I may have missed it, but was it ever mentioned why Jeanne's face was so incredibly blotchy?

CrazyinAlabama we posted at the same time with the same message!  Jeanne is indeed, a monster, though not for the reasons that she thinks.

[Caoimhe]

38 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I think Jeanne's mother felt guilty that she was raised without a father around.   It doesn't make sense, but I've known several women who had deadbeat, or husbands that abandoned and left them and the kids, and the women still blamed themselves that the father left.   It's not logical, but it happens.   I think Jeanne gave her mother a guilt trip every time she opened her mouth.       I really wonder if the mother was even asked about Jeanne having talking to the father after so many years, and then he shows up and moves into the trailer, and stays for 10 years?       Jeanne is a professional victim, nothing is her fault, and everyone picks on her.     

I also wonder how much Jeanne uses her disability income to add to her mother's guilt as that's when her mother was able to / had to give up work.

[Hellga]

23 minutes ago, Yokosmom said:

  Jeanne is indeed, a monster, though not for the reasons that she thinks.

Maybe that's why she doesn't want to lose weight - this way she has a ready excuse for why no one likes her and her life is shitty.  If the extra 550 pounds magically disappeared overnight, she would have to face the truth that she is a horrible person and fixing THAT is even harder than losing weight. 

[mmecorday]

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Btw, my eating habit last night was not good. We went out for a light supper at a friend's house for someone's birthday party where we were served sandwiches, chips, and the worst forbidden  food ever---grapes.

Dat sound like pretty bad sit-shashion dere.

[DC Gal in VA]

Thanks to everyone for taking it for the team by watching Jeanne's aptly named Supersized episode. I missed it though since it was The Dead Files Thursday and nothing' comes between me binge watching Amy and Steve, especially No-Hi-Jeanne.

Am I right that the major takeaway from this re-broadcast was a more in-depth look at/understanding of her mom, Barbara?

What I would really like to see: the light bulb moment when Jeanne realizes that Dr. Now actually saved both their lives by providing immediate medical attention to that nasty, shit-packed, toxic growth on her leg as well as providing life saving surgery for her poor mom. And, instead of receiving the "apology" she think she deserves from Dr. Now, how about thanking him for rescuing them both from certain death? Won't hold my breath.

[Kenzie]

7 hours ago, Twopper said:

I did eat grapes--that's two days in a row.

Oh, better be careful. Jeanne gained 29 pounds when she went off the diet for just one day!

[Hellga]

Thou canst harness the unholy power of grapes and use it for good!  

Though grapes are so last week, this week the Snack of Doom was oranges.

Edited March 22, 2019 by Hellga