Million Dollar Listing NY - General Discussion

[2727]

Derek hating NYC is his preference, but I think he's unconsciously (or not) projecting his own dislike for cold weather onto the twins. It's not like taking them outdoors to play in the snow is some insurmountable obstacle. And there's always CT.

Luis once again made me sad while I was watching the birth. He and Nikita were so distant, not touching, holding hands, or even much looking at each other. As always, I wish him well and hope co-parenting brings joy to everyone involved. Interesting that he's working primarily with buyers now.

The show has always tried to have at least one up and coming broker to contrast against more successful ones, but I'm feeling pressed about Tyler and need him to close some sales soon. It was similarly nerve-wracking to me when Luis was struggling.

Did Ryan's attempt to give the neighborhood a name ever seep into New Yorker's consciousness? SyHo, or whatever it was? Although "one block from Hudson Yards" seems like it would still be fairly descriptive, as well as alert buyers that it's a lot cheaper area.

[dleighg]

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Oh, and harsh winters big deal. I grew up in NY and it's not an issue. They can go to CT for outdoor play. Kids can play in the snow, go sledding, snowball fights, build snowmen, play indoors with your friends when there is no snow, plus have all summer for the pool, picnics, etc...they can experience a childhood that LA kids will never know.

Yeah. Seriously. Somehow all four in  our nuclear family grew up in the Northeast. The horror. My husband and I even moved to San Francisco (separately) for grad school, met, and believe it or not, moved back to the Northeast to raise our family.

[Pickles]

I wonder if the show is setting up Derek as the one pushing the move to LA, but in fact, maybe Fredrik really wants to expand his base in the LA market? I don't take anything at face value on these shows. Everything is so manufactured. In reality, Fredrik probably wants to branch out more and expand his empire and Derek is up for living the CA lifestyle. Doesn't mean they will be there forever. 

I agree that Luis and the ex girlfriend did not seem remotely close in the hospital scenes. Ugh. Not predicting a good outcome for Steve and his baby mama either. That one is especially odd to me. Kind of like having a baby with a stranger.

[Chit Chat]

4 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I know some viewers like the personal life stuff, but it's all become a bit too distracting. 

I like a little bit of the personal stuff, but only up to a point!  Hopefully we won't see Emilia going through her entire labor process.  Ugh to that.  I do enjoy seeing Fredrik & Derek's kids because they're so darn cute, and because he has been talking about having Milla for so long!  However, I don't want the whole show to turn into NYC Brokers and their kids.  

4 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I feel like so much of it is out of left field. 

I'm with you on that sentiment!  Luis' situation is a little hard to follow since he's been so vague about it.  I hope the show will continue to showcase the real estate, not the Broker's drama.  A little of that goes a long way.  YMMV. 

[Starlight925]

16 hours ago, lgprimes said:

 i have I evquestion abiyt Steve’s deal tonight. Did we ever actually get confirmation that the coop board approved an elevator? Because I call BS. That’s a MAJOR construction project. I was waiting for that promise to bite him in the a$$

I would think that if the wheelchair-bound buyer was serious, then the co-op board would comply, even though the building is grandfathered.  Think about the horrible press that would surround this co-op, were they to deny a qualified buyer the necessary permits to equip the unit properly.  All over the news, we'd see "Nasty Co-op board denies handicapped individual".....

I have a close family member who has been in a wheelchair her entire life, so I'm super sympathetic to stuff like this.

[Surrealist]

57 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I'm with you on that sentiment!  Luis' situation is a little hard to follow since he's been so vague about it.  I hope the show will continue to showcase the real estate, not the Broker's drama.  A little of that goes a long way.  YMMV. 

I like Luis. Ever since everything went down with him, I still feel as if he's on the verge of a breakdown on camera and it feels uncomfortable watching him. I hope he does well as a father, but the way he talked about it felt so weird. Detached. 

I'm not sure he's worked through everything, yet. This, in a sense, will compound those problems. Hopefully being back in real estate will help smooth the path forward more easily for him.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Surrealist

[Chit Chat]

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

I'm not sure he's worked through everything, yet. This, in a sense, will compound those problems. Hopefully being back in real estate will help smooth the path forward more easily for him.

Yeah, there still seems to be something not quite right with him.  I like him too and hope that he can get everything sorted out.  I wonder what happened between him and his ex-girlfriend.  I hope that she'll continue to let him be part of his daughter's life.  I don't blame her though if she doesn't want of this played out on TV.  

[jvr]

I wonder if Louis' baby, Leela (I like that name), has his last name. Leela Ortiz sounds nice... but you never know, maybe she doesn't have his name. The way he described Nikita sounded like someone who is a long time friend, not like a long time (on and off) romantic partner.  

Ryan trying to make fun of Fred by making it seem like he (Ryan) did everything before him (his own offices etc.)...I found it funny because I always think of Fred as more successful than Ryan (might be wrong). I mean Fred has a business in Sweden that looked very successful and its completely separate from his real estate work in NY. And Fred has never seemed like he was interested in branching outside of NY (beyond NY clients giving him work in other places) but he mentioned when talking to Derek he has a team in LA already. Also Fred seems to have really good relationships with developers who come back to him for all of their work which I don't see that much with Ryan. It might be just perception though and Ryan does a shit ton more deals...but it might be comparable since he also has a lot more people working for him.

Derek comes off as aloof (hot but aloof). It might be him not loving the cameras...but I think it's his personality and I always feel disconnected from him no matter how much we see him. It seems like a big ask to say he wants to move across the country. And I feel like in asking he knows he will get it. Derek seems to think, LA means nice weather, but he has no other connection to the place it seems. You can feel how much NY means to Fred and he had a good point about his brother having just moved there and wanting to stay close to him. When Derek described NY as 6 months of hostile weather I was like, what!? lol Is he counting the beautiful and amazing Fall as hostile? Real "terrible" Winter weather is maybe 2 months time (And I would say it's less than this, if my hands aren't about to fall off and my ears aching in the wind, it's not cold). Hope they figure it out.

Edited September 28, 2019 by jvr

[Chit Chat]

27 minutes ago, jvr said:

It seems like a big ask to say he wants to move across the country. And I feel like in asking he knows he will get it.

I remember back when Fredrik was really wanting to have a baby and Derek was having doubts.  IIRC, he was concerned that Fredrik would continue on with his career and leave him home to take care of the baby.  I don't know why he wasn't thinking that they could hire a nanny, but I think he was more concerned with the distraction while he was trying to paint.  Fredrik finally won him over on the idea, and he seems happy about it now.  Maybe Fredrik feels like he owes Derek since he gave in to Fredrik's request of having kids.  Just a wild guess.  I may be way out in left field with the speculation!!  

[Starlight925]

In many relationships, one person loves and cares more than the other.  I've always felt that Frederick loves and cares more for Derek, even from the very first time they met at the art opening.  Derek is one of the best looking men, like ever, and Fred couldn't believe his luck that Derek responded to him.  Of course, Fred is one of the most financially successful men, as well as a truly loving man, and it always seemed to me that Derek loved that about Fred, but that Fred really fell in love with Derek.  

Derek has a coldness to me.  I've just never warmed to him, although he's so handsome to look at.  But Fred is just a beautiful man, inside and out, and that makes him more attractive to me overall.  Such a warm spirit, and an honest and hard-working man, as well as a loving dad.

I'm hoping this stuff about Derek wanting to move to L.A. is largely production-based, and that Fred was setting up an L.A. presence anyway, but it just doesn't seem so.  They have their suburban Connecticut house, but Derek will say that it's too cold and snowy.

I do love them as a couple and hope that this is one of life's bumps, and not something that Fred grows to resent.

[oakville]

11 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I'm probably alone here, but ugh with Steve's and Luis' situations.

The former is a woman he barely knew before she got pregnant. And in the latter, Luis has a lot of deep seated issues. I feel like the last thing he needs right now is a kid. He's not even with the mother anymore. 

I feel like so much of it is out of left field. 

I know some viewers like the personal life stuff, but it's all become a bit too distracting. 

Next week we deal with Emilia going into labor. I don't mind Emilia, but I don't give a shit.

Fredrik, who I adore, is too much about the family and now moving to LA.

I start to feel weird about being let into people's personal lives to this extent. 

Lately I've been going back and forth about whether to delete this show from my DVR. 

Even the LA version seems to be more about house porn than that pesky personal drama.

I was shocked that they showed Luis in the delivery room with his ex girlfriend.

Why would she want that filmed ?

[Starlight925]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

I was shocked that they showed Luis in the delivery room with his ex girlfriend.

Why would she want that filmed ?

One word:  $$$

[MajorNelson]

8 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I like Luis. Ever since everything went down with him, I still feel as if he's on the verge of a breakdown on camera and it feels uncomfortable watching him. I hope he does well as a father, but the way he talked about it felt so weird. Detached. 

I'm not sure he's worked through everything, yet.

Big crazy smiles, big eyes, over the top expression - he definitely IS hiding something.

[scrb]

I was annoyed as hell with Ryan littering the streets with those damn decals, basically ads.

New guy over promised and the seller wants it sold in a week?  I guess he doesn’t have the pull to attract dozens of brokers to open houses like the other guys but this is on the show so it could be all faked.

As for Frederick, does his hubby sell a lot of those paintings, bring in some income?  Or Fred is the breadwinner but he wants Fred to move away from his job?  Also it means being further away from his Swedish family who can more easily visit him in NYC than in LA.

[MsTree]

15 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I start to feel weird about being let into people's personal lives to this extent. 

Lately I've been going back and forth about whether to delete this show from my DVR. 

Even the LA version seems to be more about house porn than that pesky personal drama.

I enjoy the personal part of this show as it gives more depth to the "characters". And after all, it IS reality TV.

If you're looking for straight house porn, you might want to try "Open House NYC"

[oakville]

11 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Big crazy smiles, big eyes, over the top expression - he definitely IS hiding something.

I wonder if he is on medication ?

I suppose he came back on the show to rebuild his reputation in NY. I am not sure if it's a great idea at this time.

Edited September 28, 2019 by oakville

[KHenry14]

On 9/27/2019 at 8:01 AM, Surrealist said:

Lately I've been going back and forth about whether to delete this show from my DVR. 

Even the LA version seems to be more about house porn than that pesky personal drama.

Really? The LA version gave us the pretentious weddings of Flagg and Altman, plus Altman's baby adventures.  The main differences in the shows is houses in LA and apartments in NYC. 

[jvr]

3 hours ago, KHenry14 said:

Really? The LA version gave us the pretentious weddings of Flagg and Altman, plus Altman's baby adventures.  The main differences in the shows is houses in LA and apartments in NYC. 

And Flaggs grandma! (loved her) and his drama with Colt (dropped him like a hot potato) to get with the boyfriend/husband/gold digger. And Madison and his all around crazy shit (anorexia/drugs? his drama with Altman's wife whose name I can't recall, and then seeing his weird relationship with that man-child boyfriend). And that show now has babies too. I like the LA show but I laughed at the comment of that show being all about the real estate.

Edited September 28, 2019 by jvr

[calpurnia99]

On 9/27/2019 at 11:04 AM, bichonblitz said:

They have a big, beautiful house in CT! Why can't Derek be happy with having a country house and a city apartment? He has to complain about the "concrete jungle" of NYC. I don't know, he really turned me off with his attitude because he came off as spoiled. Fredrik works his ass off and provides a beautiful life for Derek so he can paint in his loft.  Oh, and harsh winters big deal. I grew up in NY and it's not an issue. They can go to CT for outdoor play. Kids can play in the snow, go sledding, snowball fights, build snowmen, play indoors with your friends when there is no snow, plus have all summer for the pool, picnics, etc...they can experience a childhood that LA kids will never know. So Derek's "better quality of life" BS doesn't sit well with me. Now Fredrik will exhaust himself traveling from coast to coast constantly. When will he have his time with the kids? 

Some people just are opposed to raising children in NYC. It IS a very different life for kids. It has some serious cultural and educational advantages (Lady GaGa was raised in Manhattan). It is not the typical childhood of most children in America, when you actually live in New York City. It's loud, it's polluted , it's very noisy and crowded.  You leave your house and you get swept up in the crowds and noise, you can't avoid it. There are plenty of people who raise kids in Manhattan and those people agree that it is different from raising a family elsewhere.  They all have social support groups.  The cold weather lasts much longer than 2 months. It doesn't feel like Spring in April there. I know I lived half my life in NY and half my life in Georgia. I went back to NY in April I was wearing shorts (I forgot) all the New Yorkers were still in heavy overcoats. Some people really hate the cold weather.  

Taking kids on the subway is not easy feat, getting strollers around NYC is hard. However most of that does not apply to the super wealthy like Frederick, who have a driver at their disposal. But anytime they get their driver to take them anywhere they are sitting in traffic. and horn honking. It's not very relaxing in Manhattan.  New York City, day after day is exhausting! This is why all the residents try to get out on the weekends. This is why going to their home in CT for the weekend is going to take them 2 hours to get out of the city if they left on a Friday.

This article is funny - says babies and NYC don't mix. Of course their kids will be older in the blink of an eye, but it goes over some of the difficulties of having young kids in NYC

https://nypost.com/2015/01/22/youre-a-terrible-parent-if-you-raise-your-child-in-nyc/

Edited September 28, 2019 by calpurnia99

[scrb]

Yeah but very high income people do fine raising kids in Manhattan.

They're not using subways or taxis or Ubers.

There are private schools with $50k tuition for K-12 kids.

So some people are raising kids there.

[Grrarrggh]

On 9/27/2019 at 12:37 PM, 2727 said:

Luis once again made me sad while I was watching the birth. He and Nikita were so distant, not touching, holding hands, or even much looking at each other. As always, I wish him well and hope co-parenting brings joy to everyone involved. Interesting that he's working primarily with buyers now.

Not all women want to be touched a lot or at all when they're giving birth. And the pair aren't together. He's just a sperm donor at this point. 

And what was up with Steve's we aren't telling people she's preggers thing? He's already told tonnes of people! Does he think those cameras and boom mics work by themselves?

Edited September 28, 2019 by Grrarrggh

[calpurnia99]

2 hours ago, scrb said:

Yeah but very high income people do fine raising kids in Manhattan.

They're not using subways or taxis or Ubers.

There are private schools with $50k tuition for K-12 kids.

So some people are raising kids there.

I didn't say people were not raising kids there and not doing fine. Many people have chosen to do this and are happy about it. Even lower income people do fine raising kids there and enjoy it. I said not everyone wants to do it because it is challenging and there are many things that are difficult about it. I listed some of the reasons why it is not for everyone, and why I can see why Derek doesn't want to do it. Having money does not make you avoid the crowds and noise and traffic. As I mentioned, Frederick does not use subway-- or Uber or a Taxi-- imagine hauling your carseats into a taxi! He has a private driver, with his carseats already inside. 

[calpurnia99]

Also taking Ubers in Manhattan is not like in other places. Often you are directed 2-3 blocks away to the pick up spot. I've taken many Uber in Manhattan, and It is not where you call that the car comes, due to the gridlock and the one way streets. It's not so easy to haul a kid in a stoller 2 blocks over on an icy street to meet the driver. Then  getting out isn't so great either, because the driver can't pull up to the curb so you have to dodge traffic to get to the sidewalk, while carrying a 2 year old. 

[scrb]

Fred has a driver and car.  Imagine they have one at Derek’s disposal.

Also probably nannies and domestic help, because neither of them are doing house work or taking care of kids when they’re not playing with them.

Maybe Luis’ baby momma will appear more on the show, to get that TV money.  Hey she was naked with her legs spread up on her only appearance so she can probably go for more normal appearances on the show to collect more money.

[Surrealist]

22 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Big crazy smiles, big eyes, over the top expression - he definitely IS hiding something.

He's so off. 

[Surrealist]

11 hours ago, KHenry14 said:

Really? The LA version gave us the pretentious weddings of Flagg and Altman, plus Altman's baby adventures.  The main differences in the shows is houses in LA and apartments in NYC. 

They all have some sort of drama, but the LA version annoys me less. Lol. YMMV. I fast forward through the wedding and baby stuff. 

I think I prefer the LA version because the the majority of the houses have yards and more space. 

Edited September 29, 2019 by Surrealist

[TV Diva Queen]

On 9/27/2019 at 10:04 AM, bichonblitz said:

They have a big, beautiful house in CT! Why can't Derek be happy with having a country house and a city apartment? He has to complain about the "concrete jungle" of NYC. I don't know, he really turned me off with his attitude because he came off as spoiled. Fredrik works his ass off and provides a beautiful life for Derek so he can paint in his loft.  Oh, and harsh winters big deal. I grew up in NY and it's not an issue. They can go to CT for outdoor play. Kids can play in the snow, go sledding, snowball fights, build snowmen, play indoors with your friends when there is no snow, plus have all summer for the pool, picnics, etc...they can experience a childhood that LA kids will never know. So Derek's "better quality of life" BS doesn't sit well with me. Now Fredrik will exhaust himself traveling from coast to coast constantly. When will he have his time with the kids? 

signing on to this 100%.  I didn't realize my parents, really took one for the team by raising us in Chicago.  

Edited September 30, 2019 by TV Diva Queen

[Jess14]

On 9/28/2019 at 4:50 PM, calpurnia99 said:

The cold weather lasts much longer than 2 months. It doesn't feel like Spring in April there. I know I lived half my life in NY and half my life in Georgia. I went back to NY in April I was wearing shorts (I forgot) all the New Yorkers were still in heavy overcoats. Some people really hate the cold weather.  

Yep. I’m one of them. I hate cold weather, so I sympathize with Derek in that regard. However, I still thought he came off a bit selfish due to Fred’s brother moving to NY, and Fred being the one with the hectic, busy career. Why can’t Derek be the one flying across country to sit in the LA sun and paint?  It just seemed to be more about him than the kids, but I’m sure there was much more to the discussion than what we saw. 

I had secondhand embarrassment for Tyler. I hope he closes a deal soon. He seems nice, but in terms of being a broker, he’s not coming off so great on the show. The 9 am open house was silly tho IMO. Was he expecting a bunch of ppl to show up? 

[oakville]

Tyler reminds me of Luis's first season when he had trouble getting any sales.

The muffins looked really tasty at the open house.

[TV Diva Queen]

On 9/30/2019 at 8:15 PM, oakville said:

Tyler reminds me of Luis's first season when he had trouble getting any sales.

The muffins looked really tasty at the open house.

It touched my black heart when Tyler started eating a muffin.  Poor kid.  

[Jextella]

What is happening with Luis?  Is he back on the show for sure? 

Any one know what's going on?  I feel something not so good must have happened since there is not footage.

[bichonblitz]

That was the worst episode ever.  Ryan's over the top open houses with costumes have got to stop. NYC realtors don't do that! Also, I love the way they open the door for the open houses and there are hoards of realtors standing outside the door waiting to get inside. That's not how it works. 

The new guy has a lot to learn, he lacks self confidence or is very bad in front of the camera. Either way, he doesn't have that IT factor. 

Steve, please take a shower and get a decent hair cut. I get that he's all urban and hip but damn he looks sloppy, dirty and tired. 

Did Ryan say he bought that 11 million townhouse in Brooklyn to renovate then sell or rent? I thought they were going to move in. They are going to be spending a ton of $$$ to renovate and not live in it. I just don't get how that's a wise investment. 

[2727]

Seems like Luis is going to be featured a bit so viewers can get a bit of an update on where he is in life, but the show already has four realtors. If he's acting mostly as a buyers' agent now, that also isn't as dramatic as sellers and developers being asses.

I think Ryan and Emilia bought the townhouse and are renovating it for themselves and purchased an apartment in the new building as an investment rental.

[TV Diva Queen]

54 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

That was the worst episode ever.  Ryan's over the top open houses with costumes have got to stop. NYC realtors don't do that! Also, I love the way they open the door for the open houses and there are hoards of realtors standing outside the door waiting to get inside. That's not how it works. 

The new guy has a lot to learn, he lacks self confidence or is very bad in front of the camera. Either way, he doesn't have that IT factor. 

Steve, please take a shower and get a decent hair cut. I get that he's all urban and hip but damn he looks sloppy, dirty and tired. 

Did Ryan say he bought that 11 million townhouse in Brooklyn to renovate then sell or rent? I thought they were going to move in. They are going to be spending a ton of $$$ to renovate and not live in it. I just don't get how that's a wise investment. 

I think they're going to live there.  I seem to remember he had to "sell" Emilia on moving to Brooklyn  

[Chit Chat]

1 hour ago, 2727 said:

I think Ryan and Emilia bought the townhouse and are renovating it for themselves and purchased an apartment in the new building as an investment rental.

That's how I'm remembering it, but I wonder how well that's going to work for them with so many levels to it.  They'll both be running their legs off in that place!  I think it had an elevator, so maybe that'll help them out.   Personally, I wouldn't want something with more than 2 levels.  YMMV!

As much as I like Ryan, I think that he might be getting just a tad too cocky again.  Some of his interactions with Tyler reminded me of his early antagonistic days with Fredrik.  I do think he was a bit condescending to Tyler in some of his conversations with him.  Tyler seems to be a little overwhelmed, so I hope that Ryan will cut him some slack and not make things worse for him in regards to his listings.  Ryan needs to remember how difficult his early years were (per his THs.)  

I feel bad for Fredrik in having to make the difficult choice to move, especially since his brother and family moved to NYC.   Maybe they'll get a second home in California near Fredrik.  I do like how Fredrik & Derek speak to each other in respectful tones.  It's nice to see a couple discuss these big decisions rationally!  

[oakville]

I wonder if Fredrik will start appearing on Million Dollar Listing L.A. ?

[MajorNelson]

2 hours ago, TV Diva Queen said:

I think they're going to live there.  I seem to remember he had to "sell" Emilia on moving to Brooklyn  

Huh, I remember Emilia really wanted to live in Brooklyn near her family(?) and Ryan wanted Manhattan, but then thought of raising a family and details that were important to Emilia and ultimately decided to give her her wish.

ETA: relevant, in this he is presented as the reluctant new Brooklynite
https://www.bravotv.com/million-dollar-listing-new-york/most-wanted/ryan-serhant-emilia-bechrakis-move-to-brooklyn

Edited October 4, 2019 by MajorNelson

[TV Diva Queen]

35 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

Huh, I remember Emilia really wanted to live in Brooklyn near her family(?) and Ryan wanted Manhattan, but then thought of raising a family and details that were important to Emilia and ultimately decided to give her her wish.

ETA: relevant, in this he is presented as the reluctant new Brooklynite
https://www.bravotv.com/million-dollar-listing-new-york/most-wanted/ryan-serhant-emilia-bechrakis-move-to-brooklyn

you are 100% correct.  Wow, I was way off base on that one!  no excuses, I was dead ass wrong.  

[retired watcher]

3 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Huh, I remember Emilia really wanted to live in Brooklyn near her family(?) and Ryan wanted Manhattan, but then thought of raising a family and details that were important to Emilia and ultimately decided to give her her wish.

ETA: relevant, in this he is presented as the reluctant new Brooklynite
https://www.bravotv.com/million-dollar-listing-new-york/most-wanted/ryan-serhant-emilia-bechrakis-move-to-brooklyn

That's from last year. I think at the beginning of the season he said they changed their mind. I get the feeling the condo in SOHY is for rental.

[Chit Chat]

4 hours ago, TV Diva Queen said:

you are 100% correct.  Wow, I was way off base on that one!  no excuses, I was dead ass wrong.  

It's hard to keep track of these things!  I was thinking that Emilia really wanted a townhouse with a stoop so that she could sit out there with her kids.  That was one expensive stoop!  It was so long ago though that I wasn't sure if I was remembering it correctly or not!  

I didn't know that Ryan owned so many properties.  Jeez, they are really rolling in dough!  Not that I begrudge them that.  I don't see how he juggles everything he does though.  

[scrb]

I thought the Steve Gold party, not Corcoran party thing was dumb.

Like Steve wasn't going to use the realty's funds and employees to plan and execute the open house/party?

Steve says it's a buyers market so he's repping more buyers.  But most of the deals on this show have been these star brokers getting expensive listings.  I guess it's easier to throw a big party and get brokers who actually have to find prospective buyers than to do that footwork themselves.

What else happened?  Oh, Frederick got a $28 million listing in West Greenwich Village, the most exclusive neighborhood in Manhattan.  The appeal seems to be that it's not like a city full of skyscrapers, with all the noise and crowd.  It's like a suburban cut-de-sac with spacious McMansions.  But you walk a block or two away and you can go to overpriced restaurants and shops.

Well if you want a suburban vibe, go live in a damn suburb!  No it won't be Greenwich Village but it may have much nicer weather.

Then Frederick flies out to LA and drive a Bentley, looks at a "cold" mansion.  All for TV of course.  Even as loaded as he is, Bravo rented that Bentley and rigged up all the cameras and mics just to show him driving it.

Ryan in another costume this week with some themed open house!  Who would have guessed?  I'm sure these properties he's been buying are good investments but to have them spread throughout the city?  Guess he'll hire someone else to do the property management, which can be a PITA.

And really, Emilia goes into labor on camera?  Will they have a special of the birth, like giving Bravo exclusives to the first pictures of the wonder baby?

Poor Tyler, everyone questions whether he's got the chops to be a broker in NY.  He's driving a nice Audi so he must be doing well enough.  He could probably use the Bravo money more than the others except maybe Luis.  But it can't necessarily be good for business to be portrayed as an amateur, struggling to compete with the big boys.

[Marley]

Steve bugged me again this episode. He comes off as such a douche. He was so surprised he got the listing at the beginning? He was there with cameras so stupid.

Derek is meh to me now too. Oh wah I need warm weather so I can do my stupid paintings. Comes off as a spoiled jerk. So Fredrik is going to be bi-coastal now like ooh so fun. 

[Starlight925]

Just now, Marley said:

Derek is meh to me now too. Oh wah I need warm weather so I can do my stupid paintings. Comes off as a spoiled jerk. So Fredrik is going to be bi-coastal now like ooh so fun. 

Derek has always seemed meh, spoiled to me.  Even from the very first time we "met" him, he comes across as this guy who's always had everything handed to him.  Yes, he's the most gorgeous creature alive, but his looks to me have faded, the more I've gotten to "know" him.  

It's like there is no compromise there.  In every relationship, one person loves and cares more, and it's clear to me that that person is Frederick, so the bending and pretzel-twisting will be on him.  

[Diane Mars]

51 minutes ago, Marley said:

Steve bugged me again this episode. He comes off as such a douche. He was so surprised he got the listing at the beginning? He was there with cameras so stupid.

Derek is meh to me now too. Oh wah I need warm weather so I can do my stupid paintings. Comes off as a spoiled jerk. So Fredrik is going to be bi-coastal now like ooh so fun. 

IIRC, Derek reminded Fredrik that he was born and raised in Africa, that there was sun, nature, animals, etc. and that he wanted that for their kids ! More sun, more outdoor stuff all year, instead of cold, living inside, buildings, etc... And that, imho, is the reason why Fredrik can hear him and consider it.

 

Edited October 5, 2019 by Diane Mars

[Chit Chat]

11 hours ago, scrb said:

Poor Tyler, everyone questions whether he's got the chops to be a broker in NY.

I think that he's a very capable Broker, it's just that the show is focusing on his struggles more than his wins at this point.  Luis went through the same thing.  I never thought that poor guy was going to catch a break!  

[oakville]

4 hours ago, Diane Mars said:

IIRC, Derek reminded Fredrik that he was born and raised in Africa, that there was sun, nature, animals, etc. and that he wanted that for their kids ! More sun, more outdoor stuff all year, instead of cold, living inside, buildings, etc... And that, imho, is the reason why Fredrik can hear him and consider it.

 

Why did Derek want to live in LA as opposed to Miami ?

[CrazyInAlabama]

Maybe the rentals Ryan owns throughout the city, are another reason his company has a property management group?  

[Diane Mars]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

Why did Derek want to live in LA as opposed to Miami ?

Because Fredrik already has an office in LA ?

[NYCFree]

14 hours ago, Diane Mars said:

IIRC, Derek reminded Fredrik that he was born and raised in Africa, that there was sun, nature, animals, etc. and that he wanted that for their kids ! More sun, more outdoor stuff all year, instead of cold, living inside, buildings, etc... And that, imho, is the reason why Fredrik can hear him and consider it.

 

Derek may prefer warm weather, but properly dressed kids thrive outdoors in the winter. Fredrik knows this very well, having grown up in Sweden for goodness sakes.

I grew up in Manhattan, a block from the American Museum of Natural History. When it was truly unpleasant weather (like sleet or freezing rain) we went to the museum, many local families had memberships. My son is second generation NYer. To those of us who grew up in NYC, it’s a perfectly normal thing to raise a family here.

I didn’t realize that people my age would be afraid of traveling by themselves in NYC until I had college friends visit me. One friend was even from Long Island and wouldn’t take the subway by herself. I consider this “skill” incredibly valuable for comfortably traveling the world.

I especially feel bad for Frederik’s brother’s family, newly moved to NYC.

Edited October 6, 2019 by NYCFree

[Starlight925]

The storyline with Derek wanting to move to L.A. might be production-infused, given that we now know that Frederick has an L.A. office.  Plus, production loves to shake things up, and it looks like they'll bring in Josh Altman as a "character" with whom Frederick can wrestle for listings.

There are a million other places in the U.S. that they could move for suburbs and sunshine, including the house in Connecticut that they already own.  So the more I think about it, this "move" to L.A. seems like it's Bravo's way of getting them there so that we can watch Frederick work his magic in L.A.   At least I'm hoping this is the true storyline, and not just Derek calling the shots.  I want so badly to believe in this couple, and this family, and we've literally never seen any drama between them.