Mom in the Media

[Harvey]

9 hours ago, Bastet said:

I worry what sort of explanation they're going to write for Christy no longer being there. 

 

10 hours ago, greekmom said:

I just heard the news. I hope they don't kill her off in a relapse or anything and at least give her a decent send off.

 

5 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

It does remain to be seen what they will do.  They could do a two-sentence comment. 

Or they could make it an ongoing part of the show.  Especially if she fell off the wagon and abandoned her friends.

The actress playing Tammy confirmed that she will get a happy ending. I am happy about that, Christy struggled so much through the show, at least she ends up in a good place.

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[Harvey]

5 hours ago, Dani said:

I’m worried they’ll bring back Kate Micucci’s character.

 

5 hours ago, LucyEth said:

Please NO!  I would have to stop watching. 

If they bring back anyone, it should be Regina...Kate Micucci's character is just annoying and too whiny. We don't need that.

[LucyEth]

I have a feeling it is going to be a Patrick happily ever after for Christy.  

[TVMovieBuff]

1 hour ago, LucyEth said:

I have a feeling it is going to be a Patrick happily ever after for Christy.  

Patrick got married, didn't he? Holy heck, this is news. Is this cast capable of carrying the show? They certainly are. 

I had just been thinking I liked the show so much more in the early days when Bonnie was so crazy, and Christy was a hard-working woman barely making ends meet. It's completely different  now. 

[chitowngirl]

14 hours ago, Dani said:

16 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

 

I wonder how much they were able to film of the last two episodes of Season 7. The seasons usually end with a very Christy centric plot so try might be able to use that to give her story a conclusion. 

The last episode of the season has Christy doing a share and saying she is X number of years sober and kind of recaps the season as to where she is now. Who knows what was finished with the last episodes from last season. Perhaps AF filmed something they can edit in. 
As to the “Mom” title-Cougartown was stuck with that title after the show shifted to being not about that. It happens.

[LucyEth]

3 hours ago, TVMovieBuff said:

Patrick got married, didn't he?

Didn’t work out?  Always wanted Christy, couldn’t deny it anymore?  Just brainstorming.  That is probably not what happens.

[Kiddvideo]

I'm ok with this. I lost interest in Christy when they made her a gambling addict and hocked the diamond earrings. Harried and overwhelmed law student wasn't more interesting.

I think they still need someone to function as Christy, though. Bonnie's bad impulses are central to the comedy, and Christy confronted them. I don't want Adam to do it bc I don't want his and Bonnie's relationship to be so fraught. Tammy and Marjorie are willing to challenge Bonnie, but I think Tammy is less judgmental than Christy (not what Bonnie needs), and Marjorie is hands-off once she offers guidance. I thought the therapist if Rainn Wilson is available for a bigger role.

[Snow Apple]

I think Jill is a good character to step in as the "Christie" role. She had several scenes involving Bonnie that had impact. The one where Bonnie stole the silverware, and the one where Jill didn't like watching her boyfriend drink with Adam.

[Blakeston]

They gave us far more of Tammy than Christy last season, so Tammy moving back in with Bonnie seems like the most likely possibility. They might make Tammy more Christy-ish, to give us something approximating the back-and-forth we saw between Bonnie and Christy in the past.

[Harvey]

4 hours ago, Snow Apple said:

I think Jill is a good character to step in as the "Christie" role. She had several scenes involving Bonnie that had impact. The one where Bonnie stole the silverware, and the one where Jill didn't like watching her boyfriend drink with Adam.

I could see it being Jill, too. They had so many honest scenes with each other. Like the scene where they were both sitting on the bench and passive-agressively telling each other "well, there you go...not changing!" was comedy gold.  And when Bonnie was upset because her mom kept Ray but not her, Jill was the one who confronted her and made her face her feelings (and the herpes joke in that interaction was amazing). And also when Jill was upset with the group because she felt that they were using her for her money, Bonnie was the one to apologize and make things right betwen Jill and the rest of the ladies.

[eel21788]

On 9/4/2020 at 7:16 PM, LucyEth said:

  More stories about Adam’s bar, expand  on Jill and Andy etc.  I love this show and don’t want to see it end.

"Andy" is now on another show on another network. Either he would need to be recast, or he is gone forever. 

On 9/5/2020 at 1:04 AM, Harvey said:

If they bring back anyone, it should be Regina..

I'd love to see Regina hit rock bottom again, and the group help her try to pick up the pieces.

[Irlandesa]

3 minutes ago, eel21788 said:

"Andy" is now on another show on another network. Either he would need to be recast, or he is gone forever. 

That show hasn't been renewed or cancelled yet, as far as I know.  And even if it's renewed, that doesn't mean he won't be able to pop in for an ep or two. 

[eel21788]

On 9/4/2020 at 7:31 PM, LucyEth said:

 Roscoe for the most part, just a casual mention of him living with Baxter I think.    

I don't think Roscoe and Baxter were ever intended to be major characters. They were never even given last names.

2 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

That show hasn't been renewed or cancelled yet, as far as I know.  And even if it's renewed, that doesn't mean he won't be able to pop in for an ep or two. 

If he's under contract with ABC, then he can't appear on a CBS show, unless he thought ahead and craftily had it written into his contract the way Jane Lynch did with Two and a Half Men.

[eel21788]

On 9/4/2020 at 12:04 PM, ch1 said:

Well I’m bummed but the writing for her was really bad last season.  It seems the writers only want to explore Bonnie so I can see why she would want to move on.

There have been so many possible Christy story lines that were never explored: we still know next to nothing about Violet's father, we don't know much about Christy's arrest that lead her to AA,  we have never heard what the falling out was between her and Bonnie that lead to their estrangement that ended in the first episode of the show. 

[Bort]

That show looks pretty terrible. Andy will be back.

[eel21788]

1 minute ago, kariyaki said:

That show looks pretty terrible. Andy will be back.

I thought the same thing about Baxter's new show, and it was somehow renewed for a second season.

[Irlandesa]

9 minutes ago, eel21788 said:

If he's under contract with ABC, then he can't appear on a CBS show, unless he thought ahead and craftily had it written into his contract the way Jane Lynch did with Two and a Half Men.

And that wouldn't be unusual considering Will Sasso was on Mom before he did this new show. I also remembering reading something Adam Scott said about being able to do projects for other networks.  In the past, networks/studios were stricter about being able to do work for another network during off times but since they don't normally pay what they once did, one of the concessions they can offer is more flexibility to do side projects.

That doesn't mean it's a guarantee he'll  show up even if it's renewed or that he'd make it a priority but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a guest stint here and there.

[60sgirl]

I'm sad to see Anna Faris leave the show, I always liked Christy.  For me, this will leave a big void in the show, my main reason for watching it was for the mother, daughter relationship between Christy and Bonnie and now that will be missing.  My other favorite part of the show is when the group gathers at The Bistro and there again, it won't be the same without Christy.  I know I'm the only one to say this, but, I think a relapse death or relapsing and disappearing , which would leave it open for her to come back, would be more interesting than a predictable " Christy finds a man and walks off into the sunset with him" departure.  Anyway, it will be interesting to see what the writers come up with. 

 

[Sarah 103]

On 9/4/2020 at 3:01 PM, nodorothyparker said:

So it's a show called Mom, where none of the remaining characters are in any parenting relationship at all?  Okay.

It's felt like the writers haven't known what to do with the character for awhile now as she's been longterm sober and trying to move forward with her life plans and the cast has kept expanding. The role of straight man can be kind of limiting, but they've been much more interested in every other character's continuing quirks.

Christy has become the weakest link, which I never would have predicted. This is not the fault of the actress. The writers have not been giving her great material or interesting stories. The series has become very much an ensemble show, and I think it can continue just fine without Christy. 

On 9/4/2020 at 5:42 PM, AnimeMania said:

Just give Christy a scholarship to a Law School out of state and be done with it. 

This works for me. 

[Bastet]

16 minutes ago, 60sgirl said:

I know I'm the only one to say this, but, I think a relapse death or relapsing and disappearing , which would leave it open for her to come back, would be more interesting than a predictable " Christy finds a man and walks off into the sunset with him" departure.  Anyway, it will be interesting to see what the writers come up with. 

I don't want a relapse; I don't always want a happy ending, but in this instance I'd prefer it.  But I also don't want some dude as her happy ending - I'd much rather she relocate for professional opportunity.  I watch sporadically (I mostly catch up when the episodes hit syndication), so I still don't know if she's in the unaccredited law school hers looks like or the accredited school her internship opportunities sound like (TV has no idea what to do with law school, so I wouldn't be surprised if the writers don't even know), but she's halfway through (she's been working all along, suggesting the four-year program) and maybe she's able to transfer to a bigger school in a better market.  She couldn't get in any place better based on her college GPA and LSAT, but now that she's shown some aptitude and passion in her lowly law school, she gets an opportunity based on performance and recommendation.  It's not like she has kids keeping her in Napa.

[Bort]

30 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

And that wouldn't be unusual considering Will Sasso was on Mom before he did this new show. I also remembering reading something Adam Scott said about being able to do projects for other networks.  In the past, networks/studios were stricter about being able to do work for another network during off times but since they don't normally pay what they once did, one of the concessions they can offer is more flexibility to do side projects.

That doesn't mean it's a guarantee he'll  show up even if it's renewed or that he'd make it a priority but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a guest stint here and there.

Yeah, the network isn’t a deterrent, they don’t have exclusivity over actors like they used to. What the problem would be is time. Both shows shoot on the same schedule and it’s not likely that he’d be able to do both. That’s assuming that his show gets renewed — which I would be pretty surprised if it did.

Baxter’s show is irrelevant since he was written off anyway and now so will Christy, so there’s no need to ever see him again. Andy is still a viable character.

[LucyEth]

Baxter had a show?  What was it called?

[eel21788]

12 minutes ago, LucyEth said:

Baxter had a show?  What was it called?

Bob <hearts> Abishola. Monday nights on CBS. I didn't make it past the second episode.

34 minutes ago, kariyaki said:

Baxter’s show is irrelevant since he was written off anyway and now so will Christy, so there’s no need to ever see him again.

I had actually wanted him to be written off, so he could go back to NCIS. Then NCIS decided to kill him. Poor guy just can't find a lasting role.

[Sarah 103]

2 hours ago, Bastet said:

I watch sporadically (I mostly catch up when the episodes hit syndication), so I still don't know if she's in the unaccredited law school hers looks like or the accredited school her internship opportunities sound like (TV has no idea what to do with law school, so I wouldn't be surprised if the writers don't even know), but she's halfway through (she's been working all along, suggesting the four-year program) and maybe she's able to transfer to a bigger school in a better market.  She couldn't get in any place better based on her college GPA and LSAT, but now that she's shown some aptitude and passion in her lowly law school, she gets an opportunity based on performance and recommendation.  It's not like she has kids keeping her in Napa.

This is a far better and more thoughtful version of she transfers to another law school out of state. Also, California is such a large state, it could still be something within California, but too far away for her to make regular visits home.   

 

[eel21788]

18 minutes ago, Sarah 103 said:

This is a far better and more thoughtful version of she transfers to another law school out of state. Also, California is such a large state, it could still be something within California, but too far away for her to make regular visits home.   

 

It would probably be easiest just for her to be offered a dream internship that would be impossible to refuse; however, Chuck Lorre never does anything the easy way.

[sara416]

I think the show will be okay without her, but it won't be the same and the name is suddenly even more inappropriate. What is the timeline on the filming schedule? Did they already film most of season 7 with her before everything got shut down or is she going to be out of it completely?

[Guest]

4 hours ago, eel21788 said:

 

I'd love to see Regina hit rock bottom again, and the group help her try to pick up the pieces.

I’d love to see Regina back but it would probably have to be a brief guest spot or recast. Octavia Spencer is too busy for a significant role. 

4 hours ago, eel21788 said:

I thought the same thing about Baxter's new show, and it was somehow renewed for a second season.

Baxter’s new show is a Chuck Lorre show on CBS. That’s basically a 3 season guarantee.

Sasso’s new show was supposed to be a mid-season replacement and filmed before or at the same time as season 7 of Mom. If there was a conflict he would have already been written out. 

39 minutes ago, sara416 said:

I think the show will be okay without her, but it won't be the same and the name is suddenly even more inappropriate. What is the timeline on the filming schedule? Did they already film most of season 7 with her before everything got shut down or is she going to be out of it completely?

Everything already filmed for season 7 has already aired. Apparently she decided to leave just after the show shut down for COVID. All of the new season was planned without her but they haven’t filmed anything yet. They’re supposed to start filming next week. 

Edited September 7, 2020 by Guest

[LucyEth]

3 hours ago, eel21788 said:

Bob <hearts> Abishola. Monday nights on CBS. I didn't make it past the second episode.

Oh that show.  I only watched on episode and thought it was awful.  

[Sarah 103]

33 minutes ago, Dani said:

Baxter’s new show is a Chuck Lorre show on CBS. That’s basically a 3 season guarantee.

Slightly related, but also slightly off topic. I think a show needs 4 seasons for syndication, and there is real money in selling syndication rights. If a show makes it to 3 seasons, it is probably getting a 4th just so they can sell syndication rights. 

I liked Baxter as a character so it's a shame we won't see more of him, especially if Christy is out of the picture. He worked best in small doses and the writers understood that having him on a few times per season was the best way to use the character. 

[TVMovieBuff]

There is no reason for Tammy to move in with Bonnie & Adam. They have plenty of money and don't need her. She could live with Marjorie or Jill. 

Octavia Spencer, much as I love her will not be coming back as a regular. She is a busy movie actress. 

Jill is nothing like Christy and has grown as a character and won't be taking a Christy-like place in the dynamics. 

[possibilities]

Tammy does live with Marjorie already. She had enough money to move out but then found out Marjorie needed her rent, so she stayed. I am not going to guess what they will do to fill the space Christy occupied, though.

[eel21788]

19 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

Slightly related, but also slightly off topic. I think a show needs 4 seasons for syndication, and there is real money in selling syndication rights. If a show makes it to 3 seasons, it is probably getting a 4th just so they can sell syndication rights. 

Actually, it is usually after five complete seasons that a show is considered good for immortality in syndication. 

[Chaos Theory]

The most obvious idea for Christy is to say she got a big lawyer job and decided to take it.    That Bonnie is sad that she went off without her but is happy that her daughter is finally happy.

Edited September 7, 2020 by Chaos Theory

[illdoc]

1 hour ago, eel21788 said:

Actually, it is usually after five complete seasons that a show is considered good for immortality in syndication

I believe that the standard is at least "100 episodes" (which would be 5 seasons).

[Bastet]

1 hour ago, Chaos Theory said:

The most obvious idea for Christy is to say she got a big lawyer job and decided to take it.

To get a lawyer job, she needs to pass the state bar exam, and to take the exam she has to graduate law school.  So if she's going to leave for an attorney position, they're going to have to fast forward since she's only finished two years of law school as of the end of the season.

If she transfers to a better school, no need for a time warp.  And it would make perfect sense as the reason she'd move away despite her support system in Napa, especially if she's in an unaccredited law school -- graduates of such schools have awful bar pass rates, so if she's able to transfer to a better school somewhere else in CA, she'd be wise to do so (graduating from a better school would also improve her employment opportunities).

[Sarah 103]

1 hour ago, illdoc said:

I believe that the standard is at least "100 episodes" (which would be 5 seasons).

It used to be 100 episodes or 5 seasons, but sometime in the past 15 or 20 years it was changed to 88 or 80something episodes, which would make it 4 seasons. 

[Irlandesa]

4 hours ago, Bastet said:

To get a lawyer job, she needs to pass the state bar exam, and to take the exam she has to graduate law school. 

In CA, she could go the apprentice route (a la Kim Kardashian). 

Why is everyone saying Christy's school is unaccredited?  I didn't think it was unaccredited--just kind of not top tier. 

[Bastet]

1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

Why is everyone saying Christy's school is unaccredited?  I didn't think it was unaccredited--just kind of not top tier. 

I said from the beginning it looks like an unaccredited school, but it could just be limited set space/poor design.  Certainly the way her squeaking into law school after initially being denied even by the school that took everyone also spoke to a strip mall school rather than simply an unranked one, but the opportunities she's had since make it seem like an accredited school.  So I have no idea (and wouldn't be surprised if the writers don't, either); I'm just saying if it is unaccredited, that's even more reason for her to transfer to a better school if that's the storyline they come up with to explain her moving away.

1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

In CA, she could go the apprentice route (a la Kim Kardashian). 

Yeah, I suppose they could take that very narrow path, but I'd roll my eyes pretty hard, especially since she's halfway through law school; I definitely prefer the transfer.

Edited September 8, 2020 by Bastet

[Bort]

10 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

It used to be 100 episodes or 5 seasons, but sometime in the past 15 or 20 years it was changed to 88 or 80something episodes, which would make it 4 seasons. 

It still used to be four seasons. Shows used to be 25 episodes a season, four seasons would be 100 episodes. Now it’s 22 and 88.

[Blakeston]

Bonnie and Christy's living situation never made much sense (why were they sharing a bed for so long, again?). I could easily see them having Tammy move back in with Bonnie because she realizes Bonnie needs her.

There's no way I can imagine Jill moving in with them. I suspect we'll see more of her, but I'm not sure she'd make a good Christy replacement. I like her, but her Marie Antoinette act would be hard to take in huge doses.

[Bort]

Other than them having to say “Christy left town because X,” nothing is likely to change. Bonnie doesn’t pay rent, so she isn’t going to need anyone to move in. 

[Sarah 103]

58 minutes ago, kariyaki said:

Other than them having to say “Christy left town because X,” nothing is likely to change. Bonnie doesn’t pay rent, so she isn’t going to need anyone to move in. 

That's a really good point. She doesn't need a roommate. 

[ctlady]

On 9/6/2020 at 4:29 PM, Sarah 103 said:

So it's a show called Mom, where none of the remaining characters are in any parenting relationship at all?  Okay.

Exactly!  The entire concept of the show is gone now that the primary mother/daughter roles are split up.  Perhaps if the show was titled after something that had focused on a group of recovering alcoholic women, with the main characters just happening to be estranged mother/daughter.  I know - I know....too late, but how are we going to continue to think of this show as 'Mom'?  Maybe have Marjorie's rekindled relationship with her son written in?  Maybe Jill and Andy have a child?  Or......heaven forbid...

On 9/5/2020 at 3:04 AM, Harvey said:

I’m worried they’ll bring back Kate Micucci’s character.

.....as she has a daughter her mother barely lets her see.  I certainly hope not.  Especially if they do and she moves in with Bonnie and Adam.  It'd be like the 'Cousin Oliver' syndrome!

Maybe after this season they should just wrap the show up.  Eight seasons is very respectable

[ch1]

5 hours ago, kariyaki said:

Other than them having to say “Christy left town because X,” nothing is likely to change. Bonnie doesn’t pay rent, so she isn’t going to need anyone to move in. 

Plus she is married which is another reason she doesn’t need anyone to move in.  Also the financial situation of Christy and Bonnie was the main reason they lived together in the first place.

[possibilities]

Bonnie and Christy started out sharing a room because Violet and Roscoe used to live there with them. Violet had the downstairs room and Roscoe slept in a closet. But after the kids disappeared, there really was no reason for the women to share the same bed anymore.

[readster]

11 hours ago, possibilities said:

Bonnie and Christy started out sharing a room because Violet and Roscoe used to live there with them. Violet had the downstairs room and Roscoe slept in a closet. But after the kids disappeared, there really was no reason for the women to share the same bed anymore.

NO kidding and basically the excuse is: "But that's how it always been." Many sitcoms just don't really want people to move forward, they act like nothing has changed in x amount of years. Even if the actors age and characters leave the show. 

[Sarah 103]

22 hours ago, ctlady said:

Exactly!  The entire concept of the show is gone now that the primary mother/daughter roles are split up.  Perhaps if the show was titled after something that had focused on a group of recovering alcoholic women, with the main characters just happening to be estranged mother/daughter.  I know - I know....too late, but how are we going to continue to think of this show as 'Mom'? 

I'm actually totally okay with Christy being off the show. It's going to be the the same ensemble show we've been watching for the past few seasons, minus the weakest character. They've been focusing on the other women in AA, and that's been great. It allowed them to tell a wider variety of stories. The writers couldn't come up with any more good material for Christy, so I'd rather see her leave then be given weak material week after week. I was hoping the writers would do more with support for people with a gambling addiction, but they didn't. Again, the actress is great-the writers weren't giving her great material to work with.

 

Also, Marjorie is like the Mom of the group, and I could make a case for Wendy filling that role as well. Wendy is often right, but no one listens to her. She does a great deal of nurtring that is ignored by the rest of the group.      

Edited September 9, 2020 by Sarah 103

[Blakeston]

There's a lot of humor to be wrung out of mismatched people sharing a space. That's why Christy and Bonnie continued sharing a bed for no reason, and it's why Tammy kept living with Marjorie even though her business was thriving.

So even though Bonnie doesn't need a roommate, it wouldn't surprise me too much if she gets one.

[ctlady]

21 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

They've been focusing on the other women in AA, and that's been great.

Unless your name is Wendy.  I can't believe they couldn't dedicate at least 5 storylines to her character since she's been on the show.  Tammy & Regina got more screen time and dialogue as recurring stars than Wendy.  I hated how her presence in the group seemed to be more tolerated than appreciated with all the snide remarks, comments to pretty much waving her off whenever she spoke.  Let's not add any new characters to the pot and use the talent they have

[ch1]

2 hours ago, ctlady said:

Unless your name is Wendy.  I can't believe they couldn't dedicate at least 5 storylines to her character since she's been on the show.  Tammy & Regina got more screen time and dialogue as recurring stars than Wendy.  I hated how her presence in the group seemed to be more tolerated than appreciated with all the snide remarks, comments to pretty much waving her off whenever she spoke.  Let's not add any new characters to the pot and use the talent they have

The let’s treat Wendy like trash joke has been played out for a while now.  It just makes the rest of the ladies look like shitty people and honestly that and the Christy needs a man joke are 2 things that have lessened my enjoyment of the show.   Christy being gone gets rid of one issue.  Let’s see if Wendy benefits at all with the cast change.