S02.E08: Nobody Has to Get Hurt

[Drogo]

Rudy and Matty the Horse buy Lori away from C.C., who has a back-end agenda. Abby, Dave and Loretta warn Ashley about the dangers of her aggressive activism. Goldman shares his plans for cleaning up the Deuce with Alston. Larry Brown is reunited with a girl from his past. Vincent turns to his father for relationship advice. Candy puts the finishing touches on Red Hot in advance of its premiere.

[Drogo]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, CC. 

Armand Assante looks great for someone I haven't seen in a long time, but I couldn't understand a word he said.  A distracting scene that missed the mark. 

[Caseysgirl]

When was this filmed? When I googled Armand Asante it said he died in 2017. 

[luna1122]

Armand Assante is alive and well from everything I can see about him online. I had to sigh when I saw him tho, remembering how very sexy he was in "Little Darlings", back when I was a kid with a crush on him. Time is just mean.

I was so sure CC was going to kill, or at least maim and disfigure Lori. I hate Bobby too, and I despise anyone mob related, but I was cheering for SOMEONE to take CC out. I was also afraid he'd kill Ashley/Dorothy before the season is out. I think Gary Carr did a phenomenal job playing CC, but I will not miss the character at all. I'd prefer all the pimps be murdered all to hell, actually. I can't remember Black Frankie's precise words, but I laughed out loud at his 'you killed the shit out of that guy' (paraphrasing) line.

[nilyank]

After all the tense moments with Lori and Ashley, it’s CC who gets himself killed because he couldn’t leave it alone.

Of the two twins, I am not surprised that it was Frankie that got his hands bloodied and not Vincent, but I still didn’t want him to do it. For his sake not CC’s.

Larry continues his way in his new career and is no longer really thinking like a pimp. He eventually gave his former girl the money without threats and he wasn’t part of the Pimps Conference Meeting.

So I guess the guy trying to clean up the Deuce considers himself to be bi-sexual or as he puts it sexual.

[Joimiaroxeu]

So the mob is basically planning on owning Lorie's film career? She'll just be moving from one type of prostitution to another, with Kiki the "agent" as her new pimp.

Larry is next level. He may end up being a writer/director himself. And was that movie like the porn version of Mandingo?

Was CC trying to get killed? You don't negotiate with the mob. Whatever, ditto comments upthread, I half expected him either to kill Lorie or do permanent damage to her face. He turned out to be sort of a stand-up guy until greed and envy got the best of him.

Woody Strode. Never heard of him before. Interesting that Larry would look to him as a role model. From the looks of Strode's IMDb and Wiki pages he had a fairly straight-laced acting career. And it doesn't appear that he did any of the blaxploitation movies, though by that era he may have been a bit on the too old side.

Idiot CC let his mouth write a check his body couldn't cash. Sad way for him to go out. I'll miss his fabulous wardrobe. Gary Carr has a great screen presence and I hope another US production picks him up soon.

[PamelaMaeSnap]

An absolute tour de force performance by Gary Carr (yet another Simon-series guy I was stunned to find out is actually British). For some reason I'd thought there were three episodes left or else I'd have expected a major death since that's one of the easter egg signatures (maybe not so easter egg) of Pelecanos et al -- the penultimate episode death of a major character.

That said, obviously we lose someone next week too and I will be interested to see who ... with Vincent at graveside it's gotta be someone in his stratosphere (I was thinking Frankie but I don't think they'd do that ... yet). Probably Dorothy/Ashley or is that too obvious? Since I think many of us expected her to be this week's death, her survival was a surprise so maybe they get us with the gotcha next week instead. 

As long as it's not Leon I'm good. PLEASE make him a bigger part of the story next season ... 

BTW, I got the weirdest vibe that CC was (consciously or subconsciously) sort of trying to commit whatever the pimp equivalent is of suicide by cop. And yes, as Black Frankie said, they murdered the shit out of him. 

[yellowjacket]

Wow, Armand Assante.  That was amazing, I couldn't figure out who he was until the credits.

I know this series isn't getting Emmys because of the topics and the Franco, but I'd give one to Gary Carr right now.

I burst out laughing at "You murdered the shit out of him."  I'm a bad person.

[UncleGeno]

Everybody KNEW something would happen either to CC or because of CC.... but definitely did not see that coming – nicely done, show

Great actor too (Gary Carr) – anybody that can draw such a feeling of dread and disgust from their audience is doing something right

[Drogo]

2 hours ago, luna1122 said:

I can't remember Black Frankie's precise words, but I laughed out loud at his 'you killed the shit out of that guy' (paraphrasing) line.

"DAMN.  Y'all murdered the shit out of that motherfucker."  *applause*

13 minutes ago, UncleGeno said:

Everybody KNEW something would happen either to CC or because of CC.... but definitely did not see that coming – nicely done, show

Especially strange after being the sole pimp voice against taking out Ashley/Dorothy, and letting Lori leave for stardom in one piece.

 

1 hour ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

That said, obviously we lose someone next week too and I will be interested to see who ... with Vincent at graveside it's gotta be someone in his stratosphere (I was thinking Frankie but I don't think they'd do that ... yet).

Oh, I do.  "Frankie Martino getting old?  I don't see it."  

The Martinos and their good-for-nothing BIL are in way over their heads, and if we learned one thing from Frankie's escapade on Riverside Drive (getting tricked out by a rich woman who he thought he was charming)- it's that he's not nearly as good at this game as he thinks he is.  

[Broderbits]

3 hours ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

BTW, I got the weirdest vibe that CC was (consciously or subconsciously) sort of trying to commit whatever the pimp equivalent is of suicide by cop. And yes, as Black Frankie said, they murdered the shit out of him. 

I felt this too: suicide by moron. Whatever CC was, he wasn't stupid. I believe he absolutely knew what would happen and couldn't hack losing control of Lori and the prestige of being her "man".

[sheetmoss]

5 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

When was this filmed? When I googled Armand Asante it said he died in 2017. 

As of a few weeks ago...

Charlie Matthau Readying 'The Book Of Leah' With Armand Assante

Deadline-Oct 8, 2018

[scrb]

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

So the mob is basically planning on owning Lorie's film career? She'll just be moving from one type of prostitution to another, with Kiki the "agent" as her new pimp.

Larry is next level. He may end up being a writer/director himself. And was that movie like the porn version of Mandingo?

Was CC trying to get killed? You don't negotiate with the mob. Whatever, ditto comments upthread, I half expected him either to kill Lorie or do permanent damage to her face. He turned out to be sort of a stand-up guy until greed and envy got the best of him.

Woody Strode. Never heard of him before. Interesting that Larry would look to him as a role model. From the looks of Strode's IMDb and Wiki pages he had a fairly straight-laced acting career. And it doesn't appear that he did any of the blaxploitation movies, though by that era he may have been a bit on the too old side.

Idiot CC let his mouth write a check his body couldn't cash. Sad way for him to go out. I'll miss his fabulous wardrobe. Gary Carr has a great screen presence and I hope another US production picks him up soon.

Inside the Episode, Simon said the mob controlled the early porn films and made all the money while the creative talent, including the directors like Candy, made nothing.

Until this episode, it seemed they smoothed out the rough edges of the pimps, how abusive they were.

Simon always has this bleak view of the world which his characters inhabit.  They may be street smart but the shitty world still defeats them.  Nobody beats the system, at least not for the long run.

I can't tell if Simon thinks he's being an artist coming up with this perspective or merely chronicler of the gritty underbelly of America in the latter part of the 20th century.

[langford peel]

David Simon is a generous and visionary show runner because he utilizes the talents of great mystery and crime writers like George Pelecanos, Richard Price and Dennis Lehane in his series of "The Wire" and the "The Duece." They bring a level of depth and novelistic complexity that are missing from standard network fare. You know you are in for a treat when you see those names in the credits. The only other two examples I can think of is the involvement of Michael Connally in "Bosch" and Elmore Leonard in "Justified." Both quality shows far above the run of the mill.

i wish they would do the same with other genres. 

Still I get to savor the gritty novelistic tart that is "The Duece."

[Surrealist]

This episode delivered. For me anyway. 

I had expected one of the women to die by the end of the episode.

I was somewhat shocked when Bobby and Frankie murdered CC. For a brief moment, CC had won me over (a little) when he told the other pimps to back off Dorothy/Ashley. Until that moment, he had treated her as if he'd like nothing more than for her to die. Ultimately, he saved her. For now. But since he's dead, Dorothy might be getting that target put up on her back. I hope she escapes with her life, but I doubt that she will. 

Frankie isn't long for this world. The wealthy English woman put him in his place. His schtick won't keep him going in the long run. I think it's possible he dies soon. Like next week.

I can't stand Bobby, so I wish someone would off him.

I was glad to see Lori get away from CC, but as others have pointed out here, now she's indebted to Kiki and the mobsters. I feel bad for her because I think she's stuck, period. 

Abby, and Candy, might be the only ones who get out alive, when all is said and done.

[Moxie Cat]

I still think we lose Dorothy/Ashley next week, probably via the new Julito character - if only because I haven't been able to figure out the reason he was added to this show.

CC was never going to disfigure Lori in any visible way - he would have signed his own death certificate at that point. But psychological, internal? Sure.

The dog storyline bugs me. I hope it winds up with someone nice next week.

The Assante scene was bizarre. It was really long for a scene that probably has little to do with any plot. I mean, there's been no groundwork whatsoever for Vince to get back together with Andrea, and we've heard very little about his kids, even. And since when did we know the Martino brothers were even involved with their parents? Just strange. He had a nice garden though.

CC: it makes sense. I could never envision what Simon would have done with the character in 1985. Most of the others, you at least have ideas for.

Loved Darlene basically rolling her eyes at Larry when he was talking about acting!

And Barbara! Maybe she'll team up with Dorothy.

Edited October 29, 2018 by Moxie Cat

[Surrealist]

21 minutes ago, Moxie Cat said:

The Assante scene was bizarre. It was really long for a scene that probably has little to do with any plot. I mean, there's been no groundwork whatsoever for Vince to get back together with Andrea, and we've heard very little about his kids, even. And since when did we know the Martino brothers were even involved with their parents? Just strange. He had a nice garden though.

 

I didn't understand the point of the scene either. Although I like Armand Assante, it felt more like unnecessary filler. I agree that Vince's dad pushing him to get back with his ex and be a more involved father seems to have come out of left field. Up until now, it seemed as if Vince was angling (possibly) for something more secure and traditional with Abby, but she's not wired that way. 

I hope they don't bring back Vince's wife and children, as weird as that feels to say because they've been out of the storyline since almost the middle of last season. We have more than enough characters to follow and sometimes, their storylines feel less than satisfactory. 

Edited October 30, 2018 by Surrealist

[slippity slack]

8 hours ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

BTW, I got the weirdest vibe that CC was (consciously or subconsciously) sort of trying to commit whatever the pimp equivalent is of suicide by cop.  

I was thinking that too when I watched! First it was with the mob guys and then with Bobby.

 

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

I was glad to see Lori get away from CC, but as others have pointed out here, now she's indebted to Kiki and the mobsters. I feel bad for her because I think she's stuck, period. 

Abby, and Candy, might be the only ones who get out alive, when all is said and done.

The Lori scene with CC in the hotel was so sad. I agree that she's stuck. I think Candy may be stuck as well because of the mobsters. Maybe Abby is the one who gets out--her upper or upper middle class background gives her advantages? Or maybe she will be the surprise death?

I enjoyed this episode but it seems like there won't be too many happy endings in the finale. Perhaps Larry will be successful? His acting scene was a high point! And I'm rooting for Dorothy but she seems to be in danger. Darlene might still get out--I like her school friend.

[sistermagpie]

18 minutes ago, slippity slack said:

The Lori scene with CC in the hotel was so sad. I agree that she's stuck. I think Candy may be stuck as well because of the mobsters. Maybe Abby is the one who gets out--her upper or upper middle class background gives her advantages? Or maybe she will be the surprise death?

Does Abby have anything to get out of? Seems like her background does a lot more than just give her advantages. She's an upper middle class girl who prefers slumming it and working as a bar manager and does meaningful work helping the prostitutes. She's not trapped, she's living the life she wants and isn't vulnerable like the other women are (like how CC described re: Dorothy now).

[Surrealist]

21 minutes ago, slippity slack said:

The Lori scene with CC in the hotel was so sad. I agree that she's stuck. I think Candy may be stuck as well because of the mobsters. Maybe Abby is the one who gets out--her upper or upper middle class background gives her advantages? Or maybe she will be the surprise death?

I enjoyed this episode but it seems like there won't be too many happy endings in the finale. Perhaps Larry will be successful? His acting scene was a high point! And I'm rooting for Dorothy but she seems to be in danger. Darlene might still get out--I like her school friend.

Given that the beginning of AIDS is just around the corner, I see many of the characters' lives in jeopardy based off that alone. 

While it's possible that something terrible could befall Abby, she's still the most privileged of all the characters. This is why I think she might be one of few left standing at the series' end.

I'm hoping that Darlene has a happy ending, but I'm not sure she can hide her prostitution/adult film star background for too long. I wonder if the young African male who's attracted to her will find out the truth about her past. 

Larry might be the only "pimp" left by the end of the series. I feel as if the rest of them are bound and determined to meet untimely demises because they're not prepared for the changes on the horizon with porn becoming more mainstream, AIDS, and the cultural shifts in general. They're becoming irrelevant.

[Armchair Critic]

No matter how many mobsters he plays, I still see Joe Jr. from When You Were Sleeping when I see the guy who plays Rudy.

[txhorns79]

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The Assante scene was bizarre. It was really long for a scene that probably has little to do with any plot. I mean, there's been no groundwork whatsoever for Vince to get back together with Andrea, and we've heard very little about his kids, even. And since when did we know the Martino brothers were even involved with their parents? Just strange. He had a nice garden though.

I felt bad because I had trouble understanding what Assante was even saying half the time.  It was like someone gave him the direction to mumble his lines.  Though I did appreciate someone pointing out to Vincent that for all his talk of wanting to settle down with Abby, he's essentially abandoned the kids he already has. 

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Maybe Abby is the one who gets out--her upper or upper middle class background gives her advantages? Or maybe she will be the surprise death?

 

What would Abby be getting out from?  It's not like she's stuck tending bar or being an activist.  She could pack up and leave Vincent tomorrow without any real consequence. 

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And Barbara!

Larry was smart to just give Barbara the money.  She had a look on her face like she was close to tearing his head off and feasting on his blood. 

As for CC, his arrogance was his downfall.  Seems fitting. 

[Cool Breeze]

I think Dorothy/Ashley becomes a victim in the next episode.  CC was a braggadocios jackass but I think he was right when he said he still had a hold on her.  Maybe his death with rattle her.  I don't think she'll be murdered, though.  More likely, she goes back to using or the streets. 

[DangerousMinds]

3 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

No matter how many mobsters he plays, I still see Joe Jr. from When You Were Sleeping when I see the guy who plays Rudy.

Haha, me too.

[tennisgurl]

I did not see that one coming, at all! I was so sure that CC was going to kill or disfigure Laurie, not that CC would get stabbed in an argument with Frankie and Bobby. I will miss Gary Carr, who put on an amazing performance from day one (he really has a gift for being both threatening and charming) but I will not miss CC. However, CC was a pragmatic sort of scumbag, which makes me worried about the other pimps taking Ashley out, or doing something to hurt her. 

I wonder if Paul hooking up with the stripper is foreshadowing him being an HIV diagnosis? I feel like thats the route they are taking him now, as depressing as that is. Really, I feel like as we enter the later parts of the 70s, we will see more and more characters falling to violence, drugs, and AIDS, especially the ones who keep on keeping on and dont adapt to the changing times, or live dangerously. 

I continue to adore the adventures of Larry Brown: Porn Superstar in the making! I love all the stuff about the making of the film, but Larry discovering his passion for acting is just my favorite thing ever in this show. I wonder if he will go on to direct and write in movies, as well as staring in them? Maybe he and Candy can start a film company! He really seems to have more or less given up on being a pimp, or at least has lost interest. 

He did, indeed kill the shit out of that motherfucker. 

[PamelaMaeSnap]

20 hours ago, Drogo said:

21 hours ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

That said, obviously we lose someone next week too and I will be interested to see who ... with Vincent at graveside it's gotta be someone in his stratosphere (I was thinking Frankie but I don't think they'd do that ... yet).

Oh, I do.  "Frankie Martino getting old?  I don't see it."  

Gahhh. Duh. Yes! Of course ... and they still don't have to write out Franco. This is why you, Drogo, are the god of mods and I am a mere poster. 

 

12 hours ago, Moxie Cat said:

I still think we lose Dorothy/Ashley next week, probably via the new Julito character - if only because I haven't been able to figure out the reason he was added to this show.

The dog storyline bugs me. I hope it winds up with someone nice next week.

Thank you and ditto ... when they were having the pimp summit, I mentioned to Mr. Snappy that I did not remember Julito from Season 1 (then again I don't remember what month it is most of the time) and he insisted he was always one of the pimps so bravo for one of the few times I was right and he was wrong! I can savor that for awhile ...

And we BOTH commented on the dog in that scene and our worries about the poor puppy. 

11 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Larry might be the only "pimp" left by the end of the series. I feel as if the rest of them are bound and determined to meet untimely demises because they're not prepared for the changes on the horizon with porn becoming more mainstream, AIDS, and the cultural shifts in general.

... and I'm betting one death by police while robbing a pharmacy for more dilaudid on the horizon. Soon. 

 

6 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

I wonder if Paul hooking up with the stripper is foreshadowing him being an HIV diagnosis? I feel like thats the route they are taking him now, as depressing as that is. Really, I feel like as we enter the later parts of the 70s, we will see more and more characters falling to violence, drugs, and AIDS, especially the ones who keep on keeping on and dont adapt to the changing times, or live dangerousl

Undoubtedly. Season 3 fast-forwards to the porn scene and especially the gay porn scene in the wake of the AIDS crisis so they are saving Paul for that.

ETA: Help! How do I merge my posts? I do not want to piss off Drogo. 

[txhorns79]

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Undoubtedly. Season 3 fast-forwards to the porn scene and especially the gay porn scene in the wake of the AIDS crisis so they are saving Paul for that.

Have they actually released information regarding third season storylines? 

[Drogo]

I like you a lot, Ms. Snap.  Consider your posts merged.  I'm pretty confident in the theory but it'd be a shame, wouldn't it?  Since Frankie is 500x more interesting and charismatic than Vincent? 

4 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:

Have they actually released information regarding third season storylines? 

It will take place 1985/1986.

[wmdekooning]

22 hours ago, nilyank said:

Larry continues his way in his new career and is no longer really thinking like a pimp. He eventually gave his former girl the money without threats and he wasn’t part of the Pimps Conference Meeting.

Truly, the "Age of the Pimp" is ending...

The scene where Larry almost meekly gave his former girl the money was so out of "pimp-ness". If he had still been true to "pimp-dom" he'd have bounced her head off the table. Larry truly has been bit by the acting bug. I couldn't tell if Donna/"Darlene" was disgusted or disappointed or saw that there was a sliver of opportunity with Larry knuckling under.

Rodney looks as if he is about to get strung out on some serious narcotics in his attempt to get Dilaudid. I have no reservations about him getting some without a prescription.

"CC", the most styling of all the pimps is dead in a most useless manner, but he went out pimpin'. Had I been stabbed in the chest, I'd have walked myself out and gone to a hospital. It was supposed in these PreviouslyTV parts that he would kill Lori for daring to step out on him, but he dismissed her instead.

This was a good episode, and I will concur I don't know what Armand Assante was supposed to bring and yes, it is a little disappointing to see him having gone to seed. I will imagine it was just for the episode and he looks as well as a man of his age does when he cleans himself up and puts on a good suit...

[shockermolar]

23 hours ago, luna1122 said:

I can't remember Black Frankie's precise words

You murdered the shit out of that motherfucka. I replayed it twice cause I loved it so much!

 

8 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

CC was a pragmatic sort of scumbag

Also, he's not cold like that. Awh, CC. Too nice to kill or abandon the cute puppy Lori never actually wanted.

 

23 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

porn version of Mandingo

Hell, Mandingo was basically the porn version of Mandingo! And I loved the actress, "Can I say can't instead of cain't?"

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Hell, Mandingo was basically the porn version of Mandingo!

Heh, it was a hard R, I think. No genitalia shown. Larry's movie was probably what Mandigo wanted to be but then it would've been stuck in porn theaters. As it was there were likely large swaths of the US where it wasn't shown because of the subject matter.

[Rinaldo]

On 10/29/2018 at 11:00 AM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Woody Strode. Never heard of him before. Interesting that Larry would look to him as a role model. From the looks of Strode's IMDb and Wiki pages he had a fairly straight-laced acting career.

Woody Strode was a pretty memorable figure in 60s-70s movies. "Dignified" or "noble" were the predictable words used by critics to describe his presence, but not inaccurately. His physique combined with his command of power-through-stillness made him memorable in movies from Spartacus through Once Upon a time in the West and beyond. He was never a major star, but he was known to frequent moviegoers. It speaks well of Larry that he's savvy enough to throw his name around.

17 hours ago, Moxie Cat said:

The Assante scene was bizarre. It was really long for a scene that probably has little to do with any plot.

One important function it served was to remind us that Vince isn't "the good guy" among the three family members we've been seeing: the very first thing we saw him do was walk out on his wife and children. His morality's as sketchy as anybody's.

2 hours ago, shockermolar said:

Hell, Mandingo was basically the porn version of Mandingo! And I loved the actress, "Can I say can't instead of cain't?"

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Heh, it was a hard R, I think. No genitalia shown. 

Ha! Your memory of it must have faded. Google "Perry King Mandingo penis" to verify that genitalia were definitely shown. Anyway, the sight of genitalia doesn't preclude an R rating -- there are masses of examples, titles on request. :) But you're right that Mandingo kind of "wanted to be" porn (like the book it was based on); it walked up to the edge, and was certainly exploiting prurience about many things, but didn't actually show intercourse.

[sistermagpie]

2 hours ago, shockermolar said:

Also, he's not cold like that. Awh, CC. Too nice to kill or abandon the cute puppy Lori never actually wanted.

I'll bet part of the motivation of giving her that puppy was to use it against her. He wanted to give her something she loved that lived with him so it would be harder for her to leave.

She's pretty savvy about what he's doing though, it seems. She didn't get attached to the dog and she knew exactly what was coming with their final night together. She gritted her teeth to get through it in order to leave.

Loved Larry criticizing that awful script--the movie's obviously playing to a racist fetish no matter how you adjust it with the whole slave/plantation owner's daughter thing, but it actually really does make a difference when you make him say "gwanna" as well--plus that thing of feeling it's necessary to *always* write his dialogue with no g's. I did laugh at the woman also speaking up about "cain't."

[Rinaldo]

1 hour ago, sistermagpie said:

Loved Larry criticizing that awful script--the movie's obviously playing to a racist fetish no matter how you adjust it with the whole slave/plantation owner's daughter thing, but it actually really does make a difference when you make him say "gwanna" as well--plus that thing of feeling it's necessary to *always* write his dialogue with no g's. I did laugh at the woman also speaking up about "cain't."

I loved that too. And he knows (from before, or has quickly picked up) the right terminology to use when he argues about it, too. He's smart, as he's repeatedly shown. And he does seem to have found that acting is the thing he finds most fulfilling. How far he'll be able to take it, given the realities of the business and the years that are coming up, is another matter that I hope we get to see.

And it's certainly true that the questions of how (or whether) to deal with such racially charged subjects for a movie were being widely debated during this period.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Ha! Your memory of it must have faded. Google "Perry King Mandingo penis" to verify that genitalia were definitely shown. Anyway, the sight of genitalia doesn't preclude an R rating -- there are masses of examples, titles on request. :)

Yeah, I guess I meant "no genitalia shown during depiction of sexual intercourse" but I take your point. It's only been a few years since I saw it (my local library has/had it on DVD) but I definitely don't remember seeing any Perry King peen. Guess I'll have to watch it again--for research purposes of course. ;-)

[Armchair Critic]

Maybe I watch too many crime shows, but I would be paranoid my husband would find that cigarette butt Frankie threw out on the terrace. I think that lady was a smoker, but if not the smell of his smoke would be a giveaway you had another man up in your bedroom.

[Dminches]

Can someone refresh my memory as to when and why Barbara went to jail?  Was it after she and her girlfriend were caught stealing money from men they lured into their room?

[Drogo]

39 minutes ago, Dminches said:

Can someone refresh my memory as to when and why Barbara went to jail?  Was it after she and her girlfriend were caught stealing money from men they lured into their room?

It was when Larry sent her to buy drugs in a federal sting.

[txhorns79]

I forgot to mention this earlier, but I did laugh at Eileen's kid's suggestion that he and she could go watch her movie together.  I think that might put the kid into therapy for the rest of his life.   

Edited October 31, 2018 by txhorns79

[Dewey Decimate]

When I saw AA's name during the end credits, all I could think of was MST3K's "He's an Armand Assantawannabe!"

Kudos to the actor playing CC, so horrible and compelling. Speaks to my practicality, but during his death scene I was all "keep him bleeding in the fucking break room, you idiots! Now you gotta hide stains all over the walls and carpeting!!" As convoluted as the logistics might be, I'd have no problem if Gandolfini Jr. gets taken out because of CC's murder.

Edited November 1, 2018 by Dewey Decimate

[TheNewJanBrady]

On 10/29/2018 at 9:33 AM, Drogo said:

 

Rudy and Matty the Horse buy Lori away from C.C., who has a back-end agenda.

 

Back. End. Agenda. Poor Lori but at least she didn’t die/get maimed!

[Pop Tart]

I’m going to make a prediction that it’s Abby who dies next week and it’s her funeral Vince is attending. There was a flash of a scene in the previews for next week where a woman is getting choked on a bed and it looks like Abby. And I keep going back to the scene a few weeks ago where Vincent was warning her about working/hanging with Ashley and the activist dude. He told her I’d could be dangerous for her to get caught up in their stuff.

I’m thinking that may have been the purpose of the scene with Vince and his dad. Vince talking about how he wants to settle down with Abby. Just seemed fore-shadow-y to me.

edited to add: looks like I was totally wrong...

Edited November 5, 2018 by Pop Tart