Spoilers and Speculation

[WalkerTalker]

I speculate that letting these jerks go will come back to bite Ricky in the arse. Every life counts until they try to kill ya, geeze. Jerks who threatened to cut Carols throat.

Edited October 29, 2018 by WalkerTalker

[Ricci]

1 hour ago, WalkerTalker said:

I speculate that letting these jerks go will come back to bite Ricky in the arse. Every life counts until they try to kill ya, geeze. Jerks who threatened to cut Carols throat.

Negan will get out, I highly doubt it's an if, and a big chunk of his Savior followers will be quick to jump back in line. I can only hope at that point they can all die now that Rick won't be in the picture to stop them from being killed.

[WalkerTalker]

2 minutes ago, Ricci said:

Negan will get out, I highly doubt it's an if, and a big chunk of his Savior followers will be quick to jump back in line. I can only hope at that point they can all die now that Rick won't be in the picture to stop them from being killed.

I bet that is where all this is headed too. 

[mightysparrow]

If Michonne and Negan get together and end up raising Judith, I will not be responsible for my actions.

[peach]

I held out a tiny amount of hope that the rebar story wasn't true.  But I guess it is.  Boooooo.

[Ricci]

1 minute ago, WalkerTalker said:

I bet that is where all this is headed too. 

Yeap. I think he'll escape when they open the door to check on him from him beating his head against the cell wall. That was probably why he did it.

[peach]

1 minute ago, Ricci said:

Yeap. I think he'll escape when they open the door to check on him from him beating his head against the cell wall. That was probably why he did it.

Well, I hate Negan as much as anybody, but he is smarter than all of them put together.

[WalkerTalker]

1 minute ago, Ricci said:

Yeap. I think he'll escape when they open the door to check on him from him beating his head against the cell wall. That was probably why he did it.

Or he will escape from the med room they move him into for treatment. The revolt taking place will spread if it isn't stopped. That will give him his chance.

yeah, that is right Jadis is doing bad things, but why, why on earth do those helicopter peeps want a real time snuff action. 

[Mu Shu]

6 minutes ago, WalkerTalker said:

Or he will escape from the med room they move him into for treatment. The revolt taking place will spread if it isn't stopped. That will give him his chance.

yeah, that is right Jadis is doing bad things, but why, why on earth do those helicopter peeps want a real time snuff action. 

It mKes no damn sense!  You have a copter, fuel, someone to fly it, and you use it for that?  How boring is your life!

[Ricci]

10 minutes ago, peach said:

Well, I hate Negan as much as anybody, but he is smarter than all of them put together.

Very true. They are all underestimating him right now and don't have their guard up anymore when it comes to him.

 

10 minutes ago, WalkerTalker said:

Or he will escape from the med room they move him into for treatment. The revolt taking place will spread if it isn't stopped. That will give him his chance.

yeah, that is right Jadis is doing bad things, but why, why on earth do those helicopter peeps want a real time snuff action. 

So curious who those helicopter people are, and how were they not discovered by the Saviors already with them flying around in helicopters. And when will they bring back the group that gave Maggie that farming book. 

Edited October 29, 2018 by Ricci

[peach]

I watched the promo for next week.  I am tempted to watch it because of Shane, but I know they will let me down.  Still, I do think that would be the one thing Rick did that would torment him at the hour of his death.  Will Shane absolve him, or say, "I knew you'd blow it!"  lol

[Ohwell]

20 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

If Michonne and Negan get together and end up raising Judith, I will not be responsible for my actions.

Actually, I kinda like that scenario.  

But don't jump off a cliff or anything. ; )

[mightysparrow]

I can't believe that Rick Grimes is going out with a rebar puncture.  I haven't liked Rick for a very long time but the character deserves better and so does the actor.  It looks like Rick's last episode is going to be a total masturbatory last-ditch attempt to get that Emmy nomination they're so desperate for.  It's going to be about everything BUT the story.

[peach]

5 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

I can't believe that Rick Grimes is going out with a rebar puncture.  I haven't liked Rick for a very long time but the character deserves better and so does the actor. 

I hope he doesn't die alone.

[chick binewski]

OK judging by the tiny preview, next week might be something for us longtime fans.

But I still hate that Lincoln is leaving and Negan is staying. I don't know how watchable I'll find the show after next week.

[peach]

It's making me angry to think that they have set Rick up to be SO wrong about everything, and had everyone apparently tell him so as their last conversations with him, and then he just fucking falls on rebar and dies a failure, alone, and knowing everyone disagrees with him.  9 years to end treating the hero like garbage.  The people who make this show are awful.

[raven]

4 minutes ago, peach said:

It's making me angry to think that they have set Rick up to be SO wrong about everything, and had everyone apparently tell him so as their last conversations with him

The extra shitty thing is that there (caveat - Negan should be dead) is that there IS an actual conversation to be had there about the surviving Saviors, yet the show just can't do it properly.  It has to be all of this Carl's letter silliness, characters acting out of character nonsense and yup, a really crappy way to treat the guy whose story we've been following since the beginning. 

[catrox14]

My  theories for Rick's last episode.

Rick will be saved by Jadis, who calls the chopper to take him to some hospital somewhere and he ends up not remembering anything about his life after the pilot episode and he ends up leaving that place to find Lori and Carl.

Or he does remember and he leaves to find Michonne...and just disappears and we never know whether he lives or dies.  

2 hours ago, chick binewski said:

OK judging by the tiny preview, next week might be something for us longtime fans.

But I still hate that Lincoln is leaving and Negan is staying. I don't know how watchable I'll find the show after next week.

I won't be watching after Rick leaves.

[OoohMaggie]

Trailer & Sneak Peek 1

Edited October 29, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[OoohMaggie]

Sneak Peek 2

Edited October 29, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[OoohMaggie]

Damn right she knows it, just lump her with the crowbar and get on with it.

[LydiaMoon1]

I knew this show was going to phuck up Rick's departure.

Edited October 29, 2018 by LydiaMoon1

[SimoneS]

Michonne's dialogue is so pathetic. Is she really going to fight Maggie to defend that asshole? The lengths this show will go to to keep Negan alive is ridiculous. The character has ruined the show, but Kirkman's man crush continues. 

The preview to Rick's death looks really good to me. I don't any problem with how it is unfolding. In the previous trailer, we see the others running past him on the bridge so they come to his rescue. I hope the walkers don't eat him and that Michonne gets to say goodbye before he dies. 

I wonder if Maggie leaves next week or in episode six? Honestly, if I couldn't kill Negan, I would gather a few like minded folks together and leave. I am out after Maggie leave.

Edited October 29, 2018 by SimoneS

[Kdawg82]

Let's speculate:

What's with Rick's rebar wound being in the area of his gunshot at the beginning? The flashbacks to his life? Him walking through the dead bodies? The foggy dream sequencey esthetic? 

Was it all a dream? Will a Dr. Named Dr. Daryl Dixon walk in with a white coat and clipboard and say "you gave us quite a scare there...been asleep for months. How you feelin?" IDK what to expect for AL's sendoff and how will they end him without ending the series? Seems very strange as I thought and assumed he'd make it through to the end. And that last scene rendered him walker meat for SURE! The herds closed in on a passed out Rick within what looked like 6 yards. ??

[Morrigan2575]

7 hours ago, catrox14 said:

Rick will be saved by Jadis, who calls the chopper to take him to some hospital somewhere and he ends up not remembering anything about his life after the pilot episode and he ends up leaving that place to find Lori and Carl.

People would probably hate this ending but, wouldn't it be hysterical if TWD ends with Rick waking up in a hospital post ZA and it was all a dream?  Or they just leave it as a giant question mark?  Was it s coma induced dream?  did it really happen?  LOL

I'm in next week to see Rick Grimes' departure and i really like all the call backs to the pilot.  I just wish that was the whole episode. Leave the Negan/Alexandria drama for the next episode.

Edited October 29, 2018 by Morrigan2575

[JackONeill]

I realize that the immediate issue is the saying goodbye (cue violins) to Rick. (BTW, I'm in the camp that says he'll be carted off in a helicopter, fate unknown.)

But what's interesting is that Lauren Cohen is leaving the show the episode right after Andrew Lincoln does. And from what I hear, her departure is much more open-ended, which to me means she Maggie won't die. Well, how is she going to leave? Especially now that she has a kid?

Although I don't want to see Rick die, and I don't really want to see him leave for some vague reason, I get that the actor is tired of it all. (And there are probably many reasons lurking there.) So, I can see Rick's departure/death/what have you will have a certain more permanence to it than Maggie's departure. So, who and why will she leave? Will it be out of spite because she can't kill Negan. And what's aggravating—at least to this viewer—is that I know (and it's not from spoilers) she won't kill Negan, and it's because—even more so than Rick in the first eight seasons—Negan has a cloak of invulnerability surrounding him thanks to Kirkman's man-love. 

[Morrigan2575]

41 minutes ago, JackONeill said:

But what's interesting is that Lauren Cohen is leaving the show the episode right after Andrew Lincoln does. And from what I hear, her departure is much more open-ended, which to me means she Maggie won't die. Well, how is she going to leave? Especially now that she has a kid?

i caught a few minutes of last week's episode (i think it was last week) where Jesus mentioned a letter from someone. I wonder if Maggie goes to join the lady at another group that is never scene but merely referenced?  I also wonder if Lauren C/AMC have some sort of deal/option on the table? You can always come back if your new show fails?

 

42 minutes ago, JackONeill said:

I realize that the immediate issue is the saying goodbye (cue violins) to Rick. (BTW, I'm in the camp that says he'll be carted off in a helicopter, fate unknown.)

I'm in this camp as well.

[JackONeill]

3 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

i caught a few minutes of last week's episode (i think it was last week) where Jesus mentioned a letter from someone. I wonder if Maggie goes to join the lady at another group that is never scene but merely referenced?  I also wonder if Lauren C/AMC have some sort of deal/option on the table? You can always come back if your new show fails?

2

Good point. I'd forgotten about that person. That would give them a good way of "temporarily" making Maggie disappear without a knife to the head. (And, yeah, from what I hear she's "hopeful" she'll get a new show. She does have a few things coming out, so she is getting work. Other than Norman, what other actor wants to go to a job where every day of the week you have to get "made up" to look like something found dead on the side of the interstate? Although Lauren Cohan has largely managed most of that. She seems to look good no matter what the scene calls for.)

[OoohMaggie]

Ep 5 Promo’s

[OoohMaggie]

2 hours ago, JackONeill said:

But what's interesting is that Lauren Cohen is leaving the show the episode right after Andrew Lincoln does. And from what I hear, her departure is much more open-ended, which to me means she Maggie won't die. Well, how is she going to leave? Especially now that she has a kid?

It’s as confirmed as anything can be with this show, that the plan is for her to return, even if not on a regular basis. Things will be based upon and worked around her success, or otherwise with Whiskey Cavalier and future film offers. Unsurprisingly I’ll settle for what I can get. Andy’s claim that he is “far from done with the Walking Dead” is another matter, make of that what you will, spin offs, movie? ‘The Gimp’ has stated he wants to broaden the WD world, so fans of Rick will have to hope and cross everything they’ve got ??

Edited October 29, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[nodorothyparker]

Why do all of the stills of the zombies look like they're doing a big dance number?  Hey, maybe that's part of Rick's big sendoff.

I'm trying to take a wait and see approach to most of this.  As one review commented, despite our wanting all of our big characters to get heroic deaths, there's something very real and human about surviving all of this only to fall victim to that one moment where maybe you weren't as careful as you should have been or made the smartest decision you could have to get thrown from a horse.  I won't know how much I fully buy that until I see how the rest of it plays out, but just from what snippets and still pics we have it looks like maybe a badly injured Rick is still having enough presence of mind to try to lure the herd away.  As much as I'm trying not to think too hard about the logistics of impalement or the likelihood of surviving it, it would be just like this show to paint it as something he might have been able to live to tell about if only he'd been able to get to help quickly and instead wasted that time trying not to draw that gigantic herd straight back to Alexandria.

[Morrigan2575]

i wonder if the still of the gun in hand and then lone gun will be the final scene?  Like we see Rick fall, see the gun in his hand and then start to fade out and the gun is sitting there alone, no sign of Rick and it's unanswered.  Did Rick get eaten?  Is he a Walker? Did he get rescued? etc?

ETA promo photo of the Zombies busting through the door is very cool but, it does remind me of Thriller.

Edited October 29, 2018 by Morrigan2575

[JackONeill]

Maybe it'll be the same Walker that ate Lori that will eat Rick! Now that's love!

(Yeah, I know. That Walker was killed. But a guy can dream, can't he?)

And should I wonder—or not—why Sarah Wayne Callies isn't spending a few seconds in the Rick send-off?

[OoohMaggie]

2 hours ago, nodorothyparker said:

Why do all of the stills of the zombies look like they're doing a big dance number?  Hey, maybe that's part of Rick's big sendoff.

Can you imagine how hilarious it would be if they just gave it a try? 

Edited October 29, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[chick binewski]

4 hours ago, JackONeill said:

I realize that the immediate issue is the saying goodbye (cue violins) to Rick. (BTW, I'm in the camp that says he'll be carted off in a helicopter, fate unknown.)

But what's interesting is that Lauren Cohen is leaving the show the episode right after Andrew Lincoln does. And from what I hear, her departure is much more open-ended, which to me means she Maggie won't die. Well, how is she going to leave? Especially now that she has a kid?

Although I don't want to see Rick die, and I don't really want to see him leave for some vague reason, I get that the actor is tired of it all. (And there are probably many reasons lurking there.) So, I can see Rick's departure/death/what have you will have a certain more permanence to it than Maggie's departure. So, who and why will she leave? Will it be out of spite because she can't kill Negan. And what's aggravating—at least to this viewer—is that I know (and it's not from spoilers) she won't kill Negan, and it's because—even more so than Rick in the first eight seasons—Negan has a cloak of invulnerability surrounding him thanks to Kirkman's man-love. 

 

4 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

i caught a few minutes of last week's episode (i think it was last week) where Jesus mentioned a letter from someone. I wonder if Maggie goes to join the lady at another group that is never scene but merely referenced? 

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Georgie! THAT'S who they referenced last night! They spend so much time on unredeemable saviors and potato salad sandwiches I end up completely forgetting the somewhat interesting storylines they presented last season

Since AL leaving was announced I've thought (hoped?) that Rick would leave via the helicopter (alive), but as the season started that seems less likely. And I appreciate that the cast doesn't whine in public about the show, but I don't have much trouble thinking it's not a coincidence that Lincoln is leaving after they killed an og cast member to seemingly build up a weak excuse to keep the worst character ever (and that's including everyone Andrea ever slept with) and put him front & center on the show. 

 

1 hour ago, JackONeill said:

Maybe it'll be the same Walker that ate Lori that will eat Rick! Now that's love!

(Yeah, I know. That Walker was killed. But a guy can dream, can't he?)

And should I wonder—or not—why Sarah Wayne Callies isn't spending a few seconds in the Rick send-off?

I want Lori coming back asking him where Carl is, I want Bob offering him a cocktail, I want Lizzie welcoming him with flowers, I want Noah Emmerich telling him "told ya so!" and Dale yelling at him that even as a pacificist he would have had the good sense to take the little red machete and chop up Negan and burn his remains then salt the earth so nothing grows there again. Or something.

[OoohMaggie]

Anyone think ‘long black hair guy’ looks a bit odd? 

Edited October 30, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[Persnickety1]

3 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

It’s as confirmed as anything can be with this show, that the plan is for her to return, even if not on a regular basis. Things will be based upon and worked around her success, or otherwise with Whiskey Cavalier and future film offers. Unsurprisingly I’ll settle for what I can get. Andy’s claim that he is “far from done with the Walking Dead” is another matter, make of that what you will, spin offs, movie? ‘The Gimp’ has stated he wants to broaden the WD world, so fans of Rick will have to hope and cross everything they’ve got ??

I believe he's directing at least one episode this season.  

Maybe his return will be behind the camera instead of in front of it. 

[MrPissyPuppy]

Nice shout out to the original Night of the Living Dead and Day of the Dead with Cardille on the mailbox.  Bill Cardille played a reporter on Night and his daughter Lori played the lead scientist on Day.   

[OoohMaggie]

1 hour ago, Persnickety1 said:

Maybe his return will be behind the camera instead of in front of it. 

That could well have been it, I just thought the way he said it, made it seem as though it was something more, but as we all know by now, it could have been a load of BS aimed at keeping us watching! 

32 minutes ago, MrPissyPuppy said:

Nice shout out to the original Night of the Living Dead and Day of the Dead with Cardille on the mailbox.  Bill Cardille played a reporter on Night and his daughter Lori played the lead scientist on Day.   

Well caught, I was wondering why they showed a mailbox.

[peach]

3 hours ago, chick binewski said:

I want Lori coming back asking him where Carl is,

I texted my son that Shane will make an appearance next week, what did he think he would say to Rick?  "Where's Lori and Carl, RICK?"

[CrazyDog]

I thought AL said he would be back to direct an episode in Season 10, but who knows. I have no clue where I heard/saw that. I stand by my hope that it's an excuse to cover for when he's seen back on set ;) But he'll probably be so, so very dead soon. Instead of just mostly dead. Bah.

[peach]

7 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

Ep 5 Promo’s

 

Resoled 12 times.  But I guess one day they wear out.  I hate this show but I guess I'll have to watch these boots take their last ride.

[mightysparrow]

16 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

Trailer & Sneak Peek 1

What are they doing to Michonne?  Is she really stepping up to Maggie to protect NEGAN?  Is she that dickmatized that she's forgotten what right and wrong is?    She's going to put Glenn's name in her mouth to DEFEND NEGAN?   I don't know who this pod person is but it's NOT Michonne.

[mandolin]

1 hour ago, peach said:

Resoled 12 times.  But I guess one day they wear out.  I hate this show but I guess I'll have to watch these boots take their last ride.

Of all the preview shots, this one got me. Rick has been the main reason I've watched this mess. Even when he acted crazily, I blamed the writers rather than it being a character fault! I know the show uses shots from earlier seasons to force us to feel melancholy, but the video preview for next week. The way they used season 1 footage and changed it up. Man. I miss those days. :(

Edited October 30, 2018 by mandolin

[maystone]

You know, the whole trailer reads to me like Rick is fantasizing. That "your whole flashes in front of your eyes" trope, except in this case, he's mixing the past with the present: in that scene of him approaching the DON'T DEAD  OPEN INSIDE door, he's wearing his current clothing, not a hospital gown. I thought I saw a flash of him and Shane sitting in uniform in their patrol car looking out (and laughing?) at a wrecked car. Or Rick leading that massive horde back into Atlanta in a reversal of the iconic first episode shot.

My gut is telling me that this whole episode takes place between the time Rick loses consciousness and when they actually start ripping into him.

[peach]

5 minutes ago, mandolin said:

Of all the preview shots, this one got me. Rick has been the main reason I've watched this mess. Even when he acted crazily, I blamed the writers rather than it being a character fault! I know the show uses shots from earlier seasons to force us to feel melancholy, but the video preview for next week. The way they used season 1 footage and changed it up. Man. I miss those days. :(

Yep.  Broke my heart a little.  

[SimoneS]

Lauren is gone. She has a new tv series. Take the talk about her coming with a huge grain of salt. 

 

9 minutes ago, maystone said:

My gut is telling me that this whole episode takes place between the time Rick loses consciousness and when they actually start ripping into him.

I really hope that Rick isn't eaten or torn apart alive, but does seem from the promo that he decided to hide in the house and the walkers go in after him. I thought that they would save him on the bridge, maybe he gets away from the walkers. It is heartbreaking, but I think this is a good long goodbye for Rick.

Edited October 30, 2018 by SimoneS

[mightysparrow]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Negan and Michonne are going to become besties after Rick's 'death'.  Who else is Michonne going to turn to?  Has she alienated her friends while she's been playing First Lady of the ZA?  Looks like Negan's redemption might be paid for with Michonne's good name.

[raven]

I don't know about this spoiler article because we know the first paragraph is wrong, about a bunch of Saviors ambushing Rick, but this is notable because of the picture of Andy and Jon getting coffee in GA; apparently Norman was with them but isn't seen in the pic, unless that's his hair:

[catrox14]

1 hour ago, SimoneS said:

Lauren is gone. She has a new tv series. Take the talk about her coming with a huge grain of salt. 

 

I really hope that Rick isn't eaten or torn apart alive, but does seem from the promo that he decided to hide in the house and the walkers go in after him. I thought that they would save him on the bridge, maybe he gets away from the walkers. It is heartbreaking, but I think this is a good long goodbye for Rick.

I wonder if Rick and Maggie die together?