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5 hours ago, Tatum said:

For those wondering why someone with $300K can't pay a $1,100 property tax bill, allow me to elaborate:

Scene: C&T's house, March 2016

Cate: Hey Ty-Ty, did we get any good mail?

Tyler: Some bill for property taxes, for like $1,100

Cate: What the fuck is that? We already paid for the house; they can't charge us taxes now

Tyler: No, it's like every year we have to pay it

Cate: Why???

Tyler: I don't know, like, to fix roads and stuff. Oh, and like the library and county parks and shit like that. Maybe schools too.

Cate: Fuck that. We don't even use any of that shit. And there's a pothole at the end of our road they still haven't fixed. Fuck them

Tyler: it's not even due for another 2 months anyways

Cate: Fine, throw it on the desk, we'll deal with it later

Six months later

Tyler: Hey Cate, remember that property tax bill?

Cate: No

Tyler: Remember that bill we were supposed to pay for like $1,100?

Cate: No

Tyler: Well it was due 4 months ago. Now they're saying we owe that, plus another installment of $1,100, plus $500 in late fees

Cate: Stupid assholes. That pothole still isn't even fixed. Think we can get them to waive it if we post on instagram about what jelly bitches the County of St Clair is?

Tyler: Maybe. Whatever, we'll deal with it later, I have to jump on Twitter anyways and see if Farrah responded yet to my super sick burn about her ass. I got her really good, I bet she's still crying

Six Months Later:

Tyler: Hey Cate, we still have to pay property taxes. Now they're saying we owe like $4,000

Cate: Ugh, so annoying. Fine, I'll go online and pay it later. Hey Ty-Ty, remember when we were poor? And now we can like, write a $4,000 check like it's nothing?

Tyler: I know right? We're so inspirational. Hey- we should include that for our novel

Cate: Oh right.

3 months later:

Tyler: Cate, we got this notice from the county that they're taking our house if we don't pay our past due taxes

Cate: OMG, seriously? That pothole still isn't even fixed. When is the due date?

Tyler: Next year

Cate: Fuck them, they can wait. They shouldn't be charging us anything

Repeat, repeat, repeat

 

This is perfect. I can really hear their voices as I read it, too. lol 

"Fuck that. We don't even use any of that shit" had me LMAO. 

All that is missing from this perfect scenario are the little descriptions in between the chatter such as "Cate bites her non-existent nail as Tyler mentions to her the past due amount" or "Cate is picking at her scabs and looking at them with such intensity and a profound desire to eat them." 

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58 minutes ago, OwlBwise2 said:

In regards to the old house, how do you sign a QC deed with your wife and then 4 months later a WD without your wife?  13 months later get a letter your house could be taken from you for not paying the taxes on this property. 

I believe the WD you're referring to is their new house. On the property tax website for their old house, the last entry I see is for 11/15 QC. In march 2016 there was a WD for their new house. Both are in the same county.

My assumption is that they were renting the from the trust and the trust was paying property taxes. Once they quit claim deeded it over, the taxes stopped being paid. This would mean though that the trust did not pay property taxes either in 2015 (they did 2012-2014). It has now been over 2 years since any property taxes were paid. 

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On 2017-6-6 at 8:19 PM, Tatum said:

I don't think they've not paid because they don't have the money. I'm sure they've had $5K in their bank account for the last 2 years. They haven't paid because there's no reason to yet- the intrinsic value of paying what you owe holds no meaning to them. They'll pay when they're forced to pay and not a second sooner. Whether they pay off taxes tonight or 10 months from now, they'll still keep their house, so why pay now?

 

Same with Amber. She doesn't pay rent, damages, taxes, creditors, or child support until she absolutely has to do so. She doesn't do it because it's inherently the right thing to do, she does it because her hand has been forced, either through public shaming, or potentially losing her assets (when she still had them).

 

So, Cate, tell us again how Farrah's a trashy bitch because she's participated in porn and has the balls to confront you to your face, right in front of you, rather than hiding backstage or online to screech your insults, while you and Amber, who haven't worked one day or read one book in 5 years, haven't paid your bills, and leave your children in the care of criminals with a history of neglecting their own children, are the epitome of classy ladies. 

Don't forget they are both animal abusers!

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9 hours ago, CofCinci said:

They came up with the Carly-named foundation idea SOLELY to guilt Teresa into letting Carly see them. I can imagine Tyler saying "How can they ignore a foundation? What kind of people ignore a foundation?"  Catelynn hasn't worked with a single birth mother since Bethany stopped paying her.  It's not a true interest. It's false altruism. There will never be a foundation because Teresa recognizes that it is in her daughter's best interest to have ZERO contact with the Lowell-Baltierra clan.  Catelynn left her toddler with crackhead Butch in order to party in Puerto Rico with degenerates like Amber and Matt. Their values are not in alignment with B&T's. Why would Teresa want her daughter around that?  C&T joke about Butch's incarcerations with #FreeButch tshirts but the thought of their child being around addicts and felons is HORRIFYING to B&T. 

Yes! This x100. 

It doesn't even make sense to give it Carly's name since she wasn't the one who was pregnant with no support in need of a place to live. And besides, Catelynn did have a place to go - Tyler's house. I understand she wants a place for young pregnant girls who really have no place to go if they find themselves pregnant and alone, but those kind of places just don't happen overnight. If she wants the money from the clothing line to help young pregnant girls, how about putting that money towards the construction of an extra room at an existing shelter or pay for extra beds to be put in the shelter? How about giving the proceeds to an existing foundation for use towards helping those young girls? Homeless shelters, DV shelters, and homes for pregnant teens are always in need of bedding, clothing, toiletries, toys, food, etc. Hey, I have an even better idea. How about putting the proceeds towards a scholarship to help pay for books or expenses at a local college for a young girl who really wants to do something with her life? You know, instead of sitting around eating ten pound quesadillas like Cate does?  

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1 hour ago, SPLAIN said:

Yes! This x100. 

It doesn't even make sense to give it Carly's name since she wasn't the one who was pregnant with no support in need of a place to live. And besides, Catelynn did have a place to go - Tyler's house. I understand she wants a place for young pregnant girls who really have no place to go if they find themselves pregnant and alone, but those kind of places just don't happen overnight. If she wants the money from the clothing line to help young pregnant girls, how about putting that money towards the construction of an extra room at an existing shelter or pay for extra beds to be put in the shelter? How about giving the proceeds to an existing foundation for use towards helping those young girls? Homeless shelters, DV shelters, and homes for pregnant teens are always in need of bedding, clothing, toiletries, toys, food, etc. Hey, I have an even better idea. How about putting the proceeds towards a scholarship to help pay for books or expenses at a local college for a young girl who really wants to do something with her life? You know, instead of sitting around eating ten pound quesadillas like Cate does?  

With fingernails for dessert.

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5 hours ago, Tatum said:

I believe the WD you're referring to is their new house. On the property tax website for their old house, the last entry I see is for 11/15 QC. In march 2016 there was a WD for their new house. Both are in the same county.

My assumption is that they were renting the from the trust and the trust was paying property taxes. Once they quit claim deeded it over, the taxes stopped being paid. This would mean though that the trust did not pay property taxes either in 2015 (they did 2012-2014). It has now been over 2 years since any property taxes were paid. 

That is ringing some more bells. I think that land purchase began with a rent-to-own contract, which was later purchased outright when Teen Mom was picked up, but can't remember why I think that.

Also, I think someone cleared up that Catelynn is on the deed for both properties, it just didn't show up until she pulled up the record. I didn't look at the records myself, but it is somewhere in this thread.

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6 hours ago, Christina said:

That is ringing some more bells. I think that land purchase began with a rent-to-own contract, which was later purchased outright when Teen Mom was picked up, but can't remember why I think that.

Also, I think someone cleared up that Catelynn is on the deed for both properties, it just didn't show up until she pulled up the record. I didn't look at the records myself, but it is somewhere in this thread.

I think so too. The person who wrote up the deal may not have explain how taxes work, that they come twice a year or if you do not pay on the city utilities bill that it will add up with your unpaid Summer and Winter taxes.

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20 hours ago, CofCinci said:

They came up with the Carly-named foundation idea SOLELY to guilt Teresa into letting Carly see them

Excellent theory. I can just imagine the constant pleas for B&T to come to the groundbreaking ceremony, grand opening, 6 mo anniversary, and on and on. Plus the pleas for Carly stories and pics for the foundation newsletter, website and FB page. Ugh. 

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On ‎6‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 4:15 AM, jacksgirl said:

Calm81, with this group of idiots, it could be anyone of them. Why don't these people hire a reputable accountant to take care of this?  That's what I would do.

So true. We could post something and somehow it would apply to any idiot on the series. People who haven't paid their taxes: Amber, Maci, Leah, and Kail. 

People currently owing back taxes (regardless of what kind of tax): Amber and Cate

Child Support: Amber, Matt, Adumb, Jenelle (even though Jenelle doesn't technically owe CS, she should have paid a lot more than she was ordered to pay)

Domestic violence: Amber, Matt, Jenelle (and all her exes), Deb, Kail

16 hours ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

And yet they spent 3 grand on a pig and have at least 4 cars sitting in the driveway.

Four cars and nowhere to go. 

Is that pig still alive with April or did it become the center of a Michigan luau? 

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25 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Is that pig still alive with April or did it become the center of a Michigan luau? 

? That's bad!  I hope they didn't eat the pet.  They gave it a name, that means it's not food.  (Farm girl here. I was told early on "no, you can't name that one-name this one".  It took a few years for me to realize why.)

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25 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

 

Is that pig still alive with April or did it become the center of a Michigan luau? 

Haha,  you think any of these idiots would make the effort to kill and prepare the pig for a luau? The closest they would get is ask their server at the local BBQ joint if they could get their nachos and wings meal comp'd if they would donate a pig to the restaurant. Of course, management would have to come and get the pig because C&T are too "busy" to deliver it.

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10 hours ago, Christina said:

That is ringing some more bells. I think that land purchase began with a rent-to-own contract, which was later purchased outright when Teen Mom was picked up, but can't remember why I think that.

Also, I think someone cleared up that Catelynn is on the deed for both properties, it just didn't show up until she pulled up the record. I didn't look at the records myself, but it is somewhere in this thread.

?? That was me. I was looking at records I have access to through a title company and they just listed Tyler as the owner of the new house. The County's website that lay she out the delinquent property taxes lists both Tyler and Catelynn as the owners of the new house. 

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5 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

So true. We could post something and somehow it would apply to any idiot on the series. People who haven't paid their taxes: Amber, Maci, Leah, and Kail. 

People currently owing back taxes (regardless of what kind of tax): Amber and Cate

Child Support: Amber, Matt, Adumb, Jenelle (even though Jenelle doesn't technically owe CS, she should have paid a lot more than she was ordered to pay)

Domestic violence: Amber, Matt, Jenelle (and all her exes), Deb, Kail

Four cars and nowhere to go. 

Is that pig still alive with April or did it become the center of a Michigan luau? 

Where do you think all that restaurant bacon on that string contraption came from? 

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5 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

So true. We could post something and somehow it would apply to any idiot on the series. People who haven't paid their taxes: Amber, Maci, Leah, and Kail. 

People currently owing back taxes (regardless of what kind of tax): Amber and Cate

Child Support: Amber, Matt, Adumb, Jenelle (even though Jenelle doesn't technically owe CS, she should have paid a lot more than she was ordered to pay)

Domestic violence: Amber, Matt, Jenelle (and all her exes), Deb, Kail

Four cars and nowhere to go. 

Is that pig still alive with April or did it become the center of a Michigan luau? 

Where do you think all that restaurant bacon on that string contraption came from? 

5 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

So true. We could post something and somehow it would apply to any idiot on the series. People who haven't paid their taxes: Amber, Maci, Leah, and Kail. 

People currently owing back taxes (regardless of what kind of tax): Amber and Cate

Child Support: Amber, Matt, Adumb, Jenelle (even though Jenelle doesn't technically owe CS, she should have paid a lot more than she was ordered to pay)

Domestic violence: Amber, Matt, Jenelle (and all her exes), Deb, Kail

Four cars and nowhere to go. 

Is that pig still alive with April or did it become the center of a Michigan luau? 

Where do you think all that restaurant bacon on that string contraption came from? 

5 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

So true. We could post something and somehow it would apply to any idiot on the series. People who haven't paid their taxes: Amber, Maci, Leah, and Kail. 

People currently owing back taxes (regardless of what kind of tax): Amber and Cate

Child Support: Amber, Matt, Adumb, Jenelle (even though Jenelle doesn't technically owe CS, she should have paid a lot more than she was ordered to pay)

Domestic violence: Amber, Matt, Jenelle (and all her exes), Deb, Kail

Four cars and nowhere to go. 

Is that pig still alive with April or did it become the center of a Michigan luau? 

Where do you think all that restaurant bacon on that string contraption came from? 

I can't stand that they call children's shorts "shorties".  Another wonderful design by CEO Tyler

https://mobile.twitter.com/TierraReign/status/872895365426667522?p=v

4 minutes ago, druzy said:

She's one to talk! Pssssssst- Cate stop picking your face. Stop going to Boogie Town. Start paying your taxes.

Perhaps she can switch foundation purposes.

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10 hours ago, Booger666 said:

Excellent theory. I can just imagine the constant pleas for B&T to come to the groundbreaking ceremony, grand opening, 6 mo anniversary, and on and on. Plus the pleas for Carly stories and pics for the foundation newsletter, website and FB page. Ugh. 

Plus B&T have explicitly asked C&T to not post pictures of Carly... but if she's the namesake for their foundation I'm sure they would see that as a loophole that they can post pictures for the sake of the foundation. 

Lots of people name foundations for loved ones, but it just feels so skeevy in this case. If I were B&T I'd say "sure name it for Carly" as I'm driving Carly to the courthouse to file a legal name change, and then load the rest of the fam in the car as we move without telling where to start a new life. 

Also, do they really think making a child the face of teenage pregnancy is a good idea?

9 hours ago, MissMel said:

? That's bad!  I hope they didn't eat the pet.  They gave it a name, that means it's not food.  (Farm girl here. I was told early on "no, you can't name that one-name this one".  It took a few years for me to realize why.)

Yeah, I had a similar trauma when I named a cow on my families land "buttercup" let's just say the next time I went and couldn't find my beloved buttercup I was a little traumatized when it was explained to me why we had cattle, and then the inner struggle of my sweet 8yr old heart when I couldn't reconcile my love for cheeseburgers and desire not to kill the cattle.

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On 6/6/2017 at 9:55 PM, lexiexx said:

I don't think Cate even has an idea of what exactly her "foundation" will do.   Every time she brings it up I imagine her saying its for pregnant teenagers who can't read good.

 

Haha, how did I miss the Zoolander reference in this thread?

 

I am sure the only purpose C&T want this "foundation" to serve is to get them more attention and accolades from their twitter followers. They have no real cause to support.

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On 6/7/2017 at 11:34 PM, SPLAIN said:

Yes! This x100. 

It doesn't even make sense to give it Carly's name since she wasn't the one who was pregnant with no support in need of a place to live. And besides, Catelynn did have a place to go - Tyler's house. I understand she wants a place for young pregnant girls who really have no place to go if they find themselves pregnant and alone, but those kind of places just don't happen overnight. If she wants the money from the clothing line to help young pregnant girls, how about putting that money towards the construction of an extra room at an existing shelter or pay for extra beds to be put in the shelter? How about giving the proceeds to an existing foundation for use towards helping those young girls? Homeless shelters, DV shelters, and homes for pregnant teens are always in need of bedding, clothing, toiletries, toys, food, etc. Hey, I have an even better idea. How about putting the proceeds towards a scholarship to help pay for books or expenses at a local college for a young girl who really wants to do something with her life? You know, instead of sitting around eating ten pound quesadillas like Cate does?  

That's an excellent idea. Girls in that situation need so much, from basic necessities to legal representation to therapy  

I did want to note that Cate did not have a place to go when she was pregnant- Tyler's Mom stated in no uncertain terms that she was NOT supporting their baby or allowing it to live in her home. She did allow Cate to stay after Carly was placed because Butch/April were harassing her about the adoption etc. Pregnant/parenting Cate wasn't welcome in Tyler's Mom's house (her name is escaping me now). 

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27 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

That's an excellent idea. Girls in that situation need so much, from basic necessities to legal representation to therapy  

I did want to note that Cate did not have a place to go when she was pregnant- Tyler's Mom stated in no uncertain terms that she was NOT supporting their baby or allowing it to live in her home. She did allow Cate to stay after Carly was placed because Butch/April were harassing her about the adoption etc. Pregnant/parenting Cate wasn't welcome in Tyler's Mom's house (her name is escaping me now). 

It was Kim, and you are right- Kim did not want to raise Carly or for Tyler to be tied to Cate forever.

 

However, April wanted Cate to keep Carly and theoretically, Cate could've stayed home and raised Carly. That said, Cate laid out pretty good reasons why relying on April for financial support or even a roof over her own head was not a given, with April's addiction problems.

I've said it before on this thread, but that episode of 16&P was INFURIATING when Butch is telling Tyler that he's not a real man for giving his baby away instead of taking care of the baby himself like a "real man" would do. Hey Butch, number 1- I hate you for making me praise Tyler, and 2.- You have abandoned your own kids time and time again to go on benders and then get locked up for it, and even when you're not in prison you're not really the one doing the day to day raising of your own kids, so mind your own fucking business and get yourself straightened out before you start lecturing your son on "doing the right thing". Ugh. He sucks.

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18 hours ago, leighroda said:

Yeah, I had a similar trauma when I named a cow on my families land "buttercup" let's just say the next time I went and couldn't find my beloved buttercup I was a little traumatized when it was explained to me why we had cattle, and then the inner struggle of my sweet 8yr old heart when I couldn't reconcile my love for cheeseburgers and desire not to kill the cattle.

I hear ya!  My naming issue came with the pigs.  I knew the cattle were not always there but I kinda thought they all got traded out like the bulls.  ☺ 'But I want to name that one.' "no, you can name this one" 'but why not? Is Grandma gonna kill it for dinner, too?'  My grandpa fell over, in the mud, laughing.  "Grandma doesn't kill the pigs.  Just the chickens, and that's only for Sundays."

Like THAT was super helpful in explaining things.  

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On 2017-06-09 at 5:52 PM, MissMel said:

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I thought it was for a dog too, at first.

Ba-hahahahahahahaha!

Tyler is designing clothes that he would wear.  Actually, he is just taking the style of his clothes and copying them in children's sizes.  

He should be arrested for crimes against fashion - for adults AND children!  Tyler:  PUT THE PENCIL DOWN AND STEP AWAY FROM THE DRAFTING TABLE!

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Okay, the episodes or scenes have to be out of order. There is a scene in the Viva Las Vegas episode where Cate is cleaning Nova's room while Tyler talks to her about the foundation. That had to have happened AFTER the poop scene. I am sure Cate and Tyler thought with the poop scene being captured on camera they now they had to make sure they cleaned up that room, except MTV aired the cleaning scene first with the poop scene airing three episodes later. 

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On 6/8/2017 at 6:16 PM, leighroda said:

If I were B&T I'd say "sure name it for Carly" as I'm driving Carly to the courthouse to file a legal name change, and then load the rest of the fam in the car as we move without telling where to start a new life. 

Because it's increasingly apparent that C&T have no intentions whatsoever to follow whatever instructions and requests B&T have made.  C&T will not be stopped...it's up to B&T to put an end to this nonsense once and for all.  And you know what?  That's not right.

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Forgot a word :-)
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Dawn calling Catelynn on the phone: "Hi Cate. I was calling to inform you that from now on the stipulation is, if you want to have visits with Carly, you and Tyler will have to undergo random drug-testing. That means every month, at random, you will have to submit to a urine and hair test on any given day in order to see Carly twice a year. *a few moments pass* Hello?? Hello?? Cate, are you there?" 

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Plenty of open adoptions work. This particular one is unique because it was being played out on national television. It can't really be compared to other open adoptions because this one allows the adoptive parents to  actively watch the bio parents live out their lives on camera as they discuss the child. 

The problem with this particular open adoption is, the birth parents were far too young to understand what "at their [Brandon and Teresa] discretion" meant as far as visits are concerned. The other problem being, no one knew this adoption would eventually be part of a story line of an MTV show called Teen Mom. But that is the kind of how life works. No one knows what lies ahead. You can sit there and try to think of all the "what ifs" and cover the bases for the future, but you never know what will happen.  When TM first came along, that should have been the time to get the agreement amended. In fact, if it isn't already, the agreement should be amended to include B&T have every right to make whatever changes are necessary to protect their child as they see fit. I think in hindsight B&T realize they made a mistake being a part of the show, but again, they didn't know how long this show would last. They probably thought it was just one season, and they likely felt they were doing Bethenny and C&T a favor by being part of it to showcase how open adoptions work. 

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5 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I think in hindsight B&T realize they made a mistake being a part of the show, but again, they didn't know how long this show would last. They probably thought it was just one season, and they likely felt they were doing Bethenny and C&T a favor by being part of it to showcase how open adoptions work. 

Statistically, B&T were incredibly lucky to have a young white couple pick them in the first place. Notice that they've apparently never been able to adopt again. When you're in their position, until that adoption is final, you will literally go along with anything to avoid jeopardizing losing the baby and disrupting the process. I'm sure they weren't thrilled with the cameras, but as I said, people will do anything. Now they're stuck, unable to completely split off because now there's Nova, and in the end Nova is Carly's full blood sister, so they have to technically keep that door somewhat open. Carly will be a teenager soon with all sorts of feelings on the matter, I'm sure they are not looking forward to Carly rewatching this show, which you know she and all her friends will. I think they're doing the right thing for the moment, but I'm pretty sure they think of MTV as a cloud hanging over them every day. 

Getting back to C&T themselves, it struck me that Tyler just might want to get that 2nd child in with Catelynn while he can because he's subconsciously not sure how long he will be able to put up with his life under lock and key as Catelynn's husband. This "online boutique" is a distraction for the time being, but it's not going to do well, and there is no way Tyler has hung up the rest of his entire adult life just to sit around with Catelynn. It won't take long for him to figure out that every other teen mom's ex is still on the show, and that he doesn't actually need to stay with Catelynn to stay on the show, either. 

Tick Tock Tick Tock.

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7 minutes ago, hokeypokeyFOIA said:

Statistically, B&T were incredibly lucky to have a young white couple pick them in the first place. Notice that they've apparently never been able to adopt again. When you're in their position, until that adoption is final, you will literally go along with anything to avoid jeopardizing losing the baby and disrupting the process. I'm sure they weren't thrilled with the cameras, but as I said, people will do anything. Now they're stuck, unable to completely split off because now there's Nova, and in the end Nova is Carly's full blood sister, so they have to technically keep that door somewhat open. Carly will be a teenager soon with all sorts of feelings on the matter, I'm sure they are not looking forward to Carly rewatching this show, which you know she and all her friends will. I think they're doing the right thing for the moment, but I'm pretty sure they think of MTV as a cloud hanging over them every day. 

Getting back to C&T themselves, it struck me that Tyler just might want to get that 2nd child in with Catelynn while he can because he's subconsciously not sure how long he will be able to put up with his life under lock and key as Catelynn's husband. This "online boutique" is a distraction for the time being, but it's not going to do well, and there is no way Tyler has hung up the rest of his entire adult life just to sit around with Catelynn. It won't take long for him to figure out that every other teen mom's ex is still on the show, and that he doesn't actually need to stay with Catelynn to stay on the show, either. 

Tick Tock Tick Tock.

B&T were given another child by Bethany Babysnatchers Inc. soon after the Carly adoption as C&T/TM grew in popularity. 

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24 minutes ago, hokeypokeyFOIA said:

Statistically, B&T were incredibly lucky to have a young white couple pick them in the first place. Notice that they've apparently never been able to adopt again. When you're in their position, until that adoption is final, you will literally go along with anything to avoid jeopardizing losing the baby and disrupting the process. I'm sure they weren't thrilled with the cameras, but as I said, people will do anything. Now they're stuck, unable to completely split off because now there's Nova, and in the end Nova is Carly's full blood sister, so they have to technically keep that door somewhat open. Carly will be a teenager soon with all sorts of feelings on the matter, I'm sure they are not looking forward to Carly rewatching this show, which you know she and all her friends will. I think they're doing the right thing for the moment, but I'm pretty sure they think of MTV as a cloud hanging over them every day. 

Getting back to C&T themselves, it struck me that Tyler just might want to get that 2nd child in with Catelynn while he can because he's subconsciously not sure how long he will be able to put up with his life under lock and key as Catelynn's husband. This "online boutique" is a distraction for the time being, but it's not going to do well, and there is no way Tyler has hung up the rest of his entire adult life just to sit around with Catelynn. It won't take long for him to figure out that every other teen mom's ex is still on the show, and that he doesn't actually need to stay with Catelynn to stay on the show, either. 

Tick Tock Tick Tock.

They did adopt another child. In fact, the pregnant mother was assisted by Catelynn throughout her pregnancy. Bethenny was involved again. Cate was also there at the delivery. The pregnant mother had no one else and was homeless. I guess Cate connected B&T to this particular mother.

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