Amber: A Rill Woman Goes to Gel

[GreatKazu]

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What if Gary claimed he was so depressed he couldn't parent Leah?  Who would she have?!

Exactly, and I don't think Gary would get an ounce of sympathy the same way Cate or Amber gets. Somehow the females are more sympathetic to having issues than the males.

[lilmarysunshine]

30 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Exactly, and I don't think Gary would get an ounce of sympathy the same way Cate or Amber gets. Somehow the females are more sympathetic to having issues than the males.

He'd probably be told to "man up."  (And I would probably say something similar. It's just that you don't have a choice in whether you parent or not. You HAVE to.)

[ghoulina]

Depression is different for everyone, though. Some people may very well be able to get up and function when they're depressed. Some may not. I grew up with a step father who was bi-polar. During severe depressive phases, he would become almost catatonic. He would wet the bed. My mom would try to feed him soup and he would just dribble it out everywhere. It was bad. 

And, with PPD, some women have horrible thoughts about their children and intentionally try to stay away from them, because they're afraid of harming them. 

To be honest, I think Amber is one of the laziest human beings I have ever seen, and I do think even if she does have legit mental illness, she uses it as a mask. But I'm not sure about Cate. She's a chicken or egg scenario for me. Is she so super unmotivated because she's depressed? Which came first? I don't know. But I do feel for her. I think her issues seem a lot more genuine. Amber has a full face of makeup and her hair done every time we see her. Cate looks barely washed, she wears the same clothes over and over. 

I said this before, but the thing with the pig reminded me SO much of the impulsive crap my step-dad would pull when manic. I'm not a doc, but I wonder if they've considered bi-polar with her. She might cycle more heavily on the depressive side, so you can almost miss the manic phases if you're not paying attention. 

That being said, she still needs to take responsibility. I hated my step-dad for refusing to stay on his meds and therefore making life a living hell for all of us. If these girls would make serious commitments to their health, mental and physical, they wouldn't get so much criticism from viewers. I know it's not easy,  but you have to try. For your family.

[lilmarysunshine]

And that's why I said if your situation is really that bad that you cannot be a decent parent, you need real and serious help. And neither one is doing that, imo. Catelynn's back from rehab and already hitting the bong.  If she was really serious, she'd get off the damn show. She's already expressed several times she doesn't want to air everything on TV. What sane person would?  It all jeopardizes her relationship with Carly. The only good thing they get from it is money and Tyler can get a GD job since he thinks he has his shit so together while Catelynn gets healthy.

I do agree with you about Catelynn vs. Amber. Catelynn looks like a wreck and the whole pig thing struck me as manic behavior, too.  So irrational and her idiot mother was right there helping her with it instead of reminding her that she was already overwhelmed with her child.

[GreatKazu]

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I hated my step-dad for refusing to stay on his meds and therefore making life a living hell for all of us. If these girls would make serious commitments to their health, mental and physical, they wouldn't get so much criticism from viewers. I know it's not easy,  but you have to try. For your family.

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And that's why I said if your situation is really that bad that you cannot be a decent parent, you need real and serious help. And neither one is doing that,

I took these key points from your posts because in the end this is what it all boils down to - you do what you need to do for the sake of those around you because they are the ones being affected by your behavior.

ghoulina you made an excellent point there about your step-dad's refusal to take his meds. When a family member needs meds for whatever reason but they refuse to take them, it affects not only their overall well-being but the people around them. When a diabetic doesn't follow through with a healthy diet and taking their prescription meds, they become ill, they are sick, they sometimes become a burden on their family because they need help in many ways such as the need to be taken to the ER or worse, being in the hospital. They can't take care of themselves and expect others to care for them. Same for abusers. Same for anyone who has any sort of health or mental problems. That is not fair to others. If you are ill and you damn well know you are ill, and you constantly yap yap about your awareness of your illness while at the same time using it as a crutch or excuse, all the while you have the means ($$$) to get your shit together but don't do anything about it, all you are gonna get from me is a palm to your face and one big ol' "bitch please!" 

@lilmarysunshine yes to the part I quoted above.  Neither one is making any steps to getting help. Not one step. Amber is putting more work into buying things for Matt, buying animals, buying cars and glamming herself up while crying for the cameras about how she wanted to kill herself because she didn't get the visitation with her daughter. Yet, when she has opportunities to have visitation what does the bitch do? She cancels out.

Cate - She supposedly went to rehab for help. What point is there going for help if you return to the same shit hole and don't change a damn thing about your life? Oh wait. She did make sure to flaunt to her twitter minions how she now has a weed card! Cate is pretty much telling everyone to fuck off and leave her be.

Cate has her "fuck you" card while Amber has her "fuck you" house.

[ghoulina]

I think a big part of Cate's problem is she is not getting continual REAL help. That 30 days might have been good for her; she looked a lot better, to me, when she got out. But then nothing changed. She went right back to the same life. She sees that other quack, who treats her on camera. Cate is never going to get real on camera. Because I guarantee a lot of the shit that would come out would paint Tyler in a very bad light. So she's going to continue acting like all is grand and it's just HER issues at play. 

Amber...is she even IN therapy? Or does she just go every 6 months for her prescriptions?

[EmeraldGirl]

Amber tweeted that she got a "mommy makeover"  and was in recovery. 

I guess Matt wanted some new boobs. :(

[CofCinci]

Oh gawd.  Anal retreading and new tits.

[GreatKazu]

6 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Oh gawd.  Anal retreading and new tits.

Amber to Leah: "I can't see you for the next six weeks because I am recovering."

[EmeraldGirl]

Or, "I can't see you for the next 15 years, booger butt". 

[CofCinci]

5 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Amber to Leah: "I can't see you for the next six weeks because I am recovering."

Should we spoiler alert this because, sadly, this will be the storyline for Amber next season.

[evilmindatwork]

59 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Oh gawd.  Anal retreading and new tits.

What does this mean? Also, wasn't Amber fat before she had Leah? No hate, I am currently plus sized and am the largest I've ever been. So, technically, hasn't her body been better SINCE she had Leah and lost weight etc? 

[poopchute]

Post mommy body? She had a baby 7 years ago right?

[GreatKazu]

17 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Post mommy body? She had a baby 7 years ago right?

I tell ya. These girls milk everything they can.

Tits before mental health care.

Tits before Leah.

Edited October 2, 2016 by GreatKazu

[evilmindatwork]

Seriously, pay your back child support before getting new boobs. Maybe pony up to send Leah to a really nice summer camp/ immersive program. 

[CofCinci]

26 minutes ago, evilmindatwork said:

What does this mean? 

"Mommy Makeover" is a cosmetic surgery marketing term for breast lift/augmentation/reduction+abdominoplasty+liposuction.  Sounds better than "The Surgery That Killed Kanye West's Mother." 

Hope she is plans on doing something about that abortion of a tattoo too.

Edited October 2, 2016 by CofCinci

[DNR]

Omg. 

I thought the ' Leah ' tattoo was maybe her name in some ugly design.... What the hell is that ??!!!! ^^^^^ 

[starfire]

1 hour ago, poopchute said:

Post mommy body? She had a baby 7 years ago right?

Yep, 7.

Oddly enough, the first thing I thought of when I read Amber's "post mommy body" comment was that post=after and that she is getting a makeover because she is no longer a mom.

[lilmarysunshine]

Yep. Just a few months ago she was totally depressed and miserable about not having Boo-Boo in her life as much as she wants her that she couldn't get out of the bed to actually get her at all.

But she's up for house flippin', movin', and vanity surgery!

Total loser. I don't care what fancy neighborhood she's living in and the fiance just proves it.

[EmeraldGirl]

Amber had a great figure when Leah was tiny and Amber was an addict. In fact, sadly,  she was nearly gorgeous in those days. That's when she got that tattoo - look how flat her stomach was. And she was never top heavy, so I assume she's justifying implants. Get rid of the Joan Crawford eyebrows and lose a few pounds and you don't need to have anything done. When she first mentioned mommy makeover I thought she was getting new hair and brows. Shrug. 

Matt needs a face transplant. 

[CofCinci]

3 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

Yep. Just a few months ago she was totally depressed and miserable about not having Boo-Boo in her life as much as she wants her that she couldn't get out of the bed to actually get her at all.

But she's up for house flippin', movin', and vanity surgery!

Total loser. I don't care what fancy neighborhood she's living in and the fiance just proves it.

They have a boat now. Losers don't have boats. Hashtag winning because you know Matt has a Charlie Sheen winning tshirt. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

I know the cost of living in Indiana is lower than on the the coasts, but holy moly this woman has been spending money right and left recently.  A string of luxury vehicles, new house, new furniture, cosmetic surgery.  No way has flipping two modest houses added significantly to her income or net worth.  She's at least partially supporting two children (Leah and Matt), and probably helps her mother as well.  It wasn't that long ago that MTV had to step in and pay her rent to avoid an eviction, and she had an unpaid $135,000 Federal tax lien as recently as July.  She can talk a big game on camera about investing in her future, but a bankruptcy filing seems more likely.  At which point, Matt will undoubtedly exit Stage Right.

[Katt]

15 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Did some checking. Yes, Amber gave Gary full joint and physical custody right before going to gel. She did not terminate her parental rights.

Thanks for clearing that up, GreatKazu. As I said, I wasn't sure. I found a few reports claiming she'd lost parental rights but they were all from gossip sites, then I found some articles saying she'd lost custody rights but they've now been reinstated. Either way, that doesn't make her any better, IMO. She's still calling it in. 

[ginger90]

I guess Amber doesn't know "post" means after.

So, she really had surgery?

[Brooklynista]

28 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I guess Amber doesn't know "post" means after.

So, she really had surgery?

Shes also unaware MOMS have mommy makeovers. She should have paid for Gary to have surgery. He's Leah's mom.

[lilmarysunshine]

39 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Shes also unaware MOMS have mommy makeovers. She should have paid for Gary to have surgery. He's Leah's mom.

Or Kristina. (And I do not mean to make a blanket statement about all moms who don't have physical custody. I have known of some very good moms in bad financial situations/other situations who very much wanted to be full-time mothers to their kids. That ain't Amber.  Leah is not a priority for her. Gary has a modest home compared to Amber's now.  But he actually parents his kid.)

[CofCinci]

Amber's new breasts, flatter stomach and new thigh gap (must be at least 3 fingers wide to be quiche) will bring her a great deal of pain. How is she going to manage the pain without becoming addicted to pills again?  Matt will keep her happily doped up. 

P.s.  Don't you love how the new boat is basically a couch boat. 

[LilaFowler]

Even if Amber has to file for bankruptcy Matt isn't going anywhere, not if it's all in her name.  Provided she is still on MTV of course.  He'll only bail if she's literally out of money and opportunity.  Kids these days are so foolhardy regarding finances.  I just read an article about one of the more recent America's Next Top Model winners filing for bankruptcy for only $30k in debt.  LMAO forever.  $30k.

I wouldn't be surprised if Amber studied an LL Bean catalogue and decided to model her life after one.  She's doing what she thinks better, happier people do:  buy boring homes with boring beige walls and filled with boring grandma furniture.  Buy a boat. Buy a luxury SUV.  On paper it all looks good but on her it looks cheap.  We all know that she will be content anywhere, whether it's a double wide in the middle of nowhere or a McMansion, as long as her ass has a spot on a comfy couch. 

Edited October 2, 2016 by LilaFowler

[GreatKazu]

2 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Shes also unaware MOMS have mommy makeovers. She should have paid for Gary to have surgery. He's Leah's mom.

*high five* 

Instead of using that money for surgery, she should have just handed Gary the cash for the time she was in prison.

I am so glad I got off the sympathy train with this trainwreck.

7 hours ago, Katt said:

Thanks for clearing that up, GreatKazu. As I said, I wasn't sure. I found a few reports claiming she'd lost parental rights but they were all from gossip sites, then I found some articles saying she'd lost custody rights but they've now been reinstated. Either way, that doesn't make her any better, IMO. She's still calling it in. 

Oops. I made a boo boo. lol  I meant, Gary had SOLE legal and physical custody of Leah, not joint.

Amber can call it what she wants, she is still not being a parent to the child. She has it on paper that she has custody 50% of the time in the summer, but that is just to lay claim of what she has. She has failed in actually having that visitation time with her daughter. Amber and Adumb are alike in that department.

Edited October 2, 2016 by GreatKazu

[ginger90]

I hope Gary keeps track of the visitation schedule as it is written and notes the times Amber does and does not actually keep to it.

[evilmindatwork]

I hope so too. Amber, as is,  is not a fit custodial parent. However, if Gary manages to truly piss her off, I can see her waging hell to get Leah for the sake of revenge. To minimize complication, I hope Gary is documenting every damn thing. I believe Amber, unlike Jennelle, truly loves Leah, but it's a primal, instinctive, animal love. I don't think Amber, despite loving her daughter, knows how to take care of herself much less a child. 

[ghoulina]

The only good thing I can say about this surgery is maybe that means Amber won't be having any kids with Matt. At least we can hope.

[Emmierose]

Matt doesn't appear to wash his face, clothes, hair, and he looks like he smells so I'm gonna guess that his icky body doesn't interact with any type of soap product either.   Why would he wash his icky, greasy, smeared, dirty glasses?   He doesn't wash anything.  He is so freakin' gross and disgusting and I'd bet any amount of money that his breath stinks too. 

[CofCinci]

Back on TWOP, we weren't allowed to reply with "Ummmmm....."

Can we write "Um" here -- because if there were ever an Um occasion, this would be it.

[GreatKazu]

20 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Back on TWOP, we weren't allowed to reply with "Ummmmm....."

Can we write "Um" here -- because if there were ever an Um occasion, this would be it.

It's always been fine to post "ummm". Just as long as it was directed at the show or the people on it. :-)

Now what the fuck is she spewing about now? And why do these bitches always go to social media to air their shit? Oh that's right. They can't live away from the cameras and their fans.

[AhFillAck]

21 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I tell ya. These girls milk everything they can.

Tits before mental health care.

Tits before Leah.

"Tits Before Leah". Let's start a band and name it that! We will need to learn to play our instruments sitting down, however, because we will be performing from a couch.

[Maharincess]

On 9/29/2016 at 10:10 PM, mamadrama said:

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Grrr. 

Edited October 3, 2016 by Maharincess

[Maharincess]

On 9/29/2016 at 10:10 PM, mamadrama said:

And then there was the incident in Vegas (I think?) where he punched the wall off-camera. 

I actually find it very sad. I am not a big fan of Amber's, but as a woman and human being I don't want to think of anyone being the victim of domestic violence, and I believe she is-even if it's not physical. As big as she acts, you know her self-esteem has to be low.Why else would she buy a "f-you" house? Matt found that weakness and has taken advantage of it. I find both him and Tyler appalling for similar reasons. Taylor, on the other hand, seems harmless. Shiftless and a user, but harmless. 

Frankly, I am surprised MTV continues to film Matt. If they can completely cut out the fact that Whitney Way Thore has a third roommate and not film Donna Lee, they could make it look like Matt doesn't exist, either. After some of the things that they've shown ON camera, and you know there are scenes that were left on the cutting room floor, I'm a little surprised that they haven't just cut him out altogether and refused to stroke his ego. Unless he's convinced him that the two of them are a package deal and "we have to be filmed or else you don't get Amber". 

Who are the people in the bold?  I've never heard of them, but I haven't watched in a few weeks. 

[starfire]

6 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Back on TWOP, we weren't allowed to reply with "Ummmmm....."

Can we write "Um" here -- because if there were ever an Um occasion, this would be it.

Yeah, it's totally ridiculous Amber.

Maybe if Leah lived a half-hour closer and went to night school it would be within the realm of possibility.

[Katt]

1 hour ago, Maharincess said:

Who are the people in the bold?  I've never heard of them, but I haven't watched in a few weeks. 

It's the TLC show "My Big Fat Fabulous Life". I used to watch it but then Whitney made me stop rooting for her by becoming a hole. 

[blubld43]

4 hours ago, Katt said:

I used to watch it but then Whitney made me stop rooting for her by becoming a hole. 

I tried to watch it too.  Every single episode was about Whitney suffering through something because of her weight, not "fabulous" in any way.

On topic.  Amber's Leah tattoo is hideous!

[butterbody]

I just scrolled through Amber's Instagram and most of the pictures of Matt have been taken down. Does this mean something? Oh please let him be gone!

[ghoulina]

1 hour ago, butterbody said:

I just scrolled through Amber's Instagram and most of the pictures of Matt have been taken down. Does this mean something? Oh please let him be gone!

Taken down? I never noticed any to begin with. I would occasionally look and there would be like one Matt pic out of 50 pics. So I wouldn't really be able to tell if she removed any. 

[Tatum]

On 10/1/2016 at 8:01 PM, poopchute said:

Post mommy body? She had a baby 7 years ago right?

Closer to 8, actually. Think Leah was born late 2008. Leah and Bentley are the oldest of the TM and TM2 kids. Sophia and Carly were born early 2009, Jace and Aubree were born summer/fall 2009, and Leah's girlses were born Dec 2009. Not sure about Isaac but I think Kail said in her book she got knocked up on prom night (or was unknowingly pregnant at prom) so probably early 2010? It's amazing to think how close these kids are to teenagers themselves considering their super immature parents.

Edited October 3, 2016 by Tatum

[SPLAIN]

19 hours ago, AhFillAck said:

"Tits Before Leah". Let's start a band and name it that! We will need to learn to play our instruments sitting down, however, because we will be performing from a couch.

A grunge band. lol How appropriate considering this is Amber and Matt.

I will take keyboards. Just low enough so I can sit on the couch.

1 hour ago, Tatum said:

Closer to 8, actually. Think Leah was born late 2008. Leah and Bentley are the oldest of the TM and TM2 kids. Sophia and Carly were born early 2009, Jace and Aubree were born summer/fall 2009, and Leah's girlses were born Dec 2009. Not sure about Isaac but I think Kail said in her book she got knocked up on prom night (or was unknowingly pregnant at prom) so probably early 2010? It's amazing to think how close these kids are to teenagers themselves considering their super immature parents.

This may be why this damn show is still on the air. MTV is hoping to milk it. Teen Mom: Second Generation

[ginger90]

I really hope her medication is being closely monitored, by a professional, not Matt.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/784130687297265664?p=v

[Pdxblonde]

7 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I really hope her medication is being closely monitored, by a professional, not Matt.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/784130687297265664?p=v

Someone hashtagged #myteenmomhero

seriously?? A lazy, do nothing with her life, is someone's hero? Ugh!

[iheartla]

I suspect the entire artist's rendition of Little Leah Leanne will be removed and all she'll be left with is the flowers. Wouldn't it be funny if Amber didn't have enough excess skin to remove the entire Leah tattoo, and she's left with just the remaining forehead and hair stitched down at her hip? Mommy Makeovers usually include a breast lift and implants, too. My only hope is the new physique gives Amber a newfound confidence and she can kick matt to the curb. Maybe she'll find someone self sufficient, who motivates her by virtue of wanting to keep up with their stand-up lifestyle. One can hope, right? For Leah's sake. 

[poopchute]

I'm so confused about the mommy makeover. The idea is ridiculous for anyone but I guess I could maybe understand it (actually, not really no) for women with multiple kids, so busy that they just do not have any time to work on improving their bodies.  Maybe, I guess.  But has Amber made any effort to lose weight like a normal person?  Not that we have seen. And she has one 7 year old daughter who she sees like 3 days a month so why can't she find 30 minutes a day to go on a walk? I just don't understand this at all. 

[CofCinci]

3 hours ago, poopchute said:

I'm so confused about the mommy makeover. The idea is ridiculous for anyone but I guess I could maybe understand it (actually, not really no) for women with multiple kids, so busy that they just do not have any time to work on improving their bodies.  Maybe, I guess.  But has Amber made any effort to lose weight like a normal person?  Not that we have seen. And she has one 7 year old daughter who she sees like 3 days a month so why can't she find 30 minutes a day to go on a walk? I just don't understand this at all. 

Matt is flirting with pretty joggers and most likely receiving DMs from dumb women. The clock is ticking on their relationship and doesn't have the time or motivation to work out. Amber is lifting her breasts and widening the thigh-gap to keep that scumbag interested. She hasn't Tweeted/promoted the surgeon/clinic. That means she paid for the costly surgery in full.  The Mommy Makeover is to save her marriage (I believe they're married - no evidence thought other than Matt's past behavior). Matt probably encouraged the surgery because it's risky and she could die like Kayne's mother. 

Edited October 7, 2016 by CofCinci