Season 20: Live Feed Discussion

[GalvDuck]

I work with professional medical personnel who are well-mannered and respectable in public.  But in certain company, yeah, we cuss, cut up, and so on.  It might be a yellow light or even a red light (going waaaay back to the Thomas-Hill hearings there) when certain topics are discussed in the presence of an audience that isn't suitable for them.  But, I think it's safe to say, a lot of classy ladies and gentlemen can let loose with an F bomb or S load if the situation is comfortable enough.

[Cherry Cola]

27 minutes ago, atomic said:

Sam: "Being a lady is what makes me empowered."

Also Sam: 

Perhaps it's almost her time of the month.   I tend to drop the f bomb a lot around then.   But..why is the seat broken?

Edited July 26, 2018 by Cherry Cola

[Vixenstud]

20 minutes ago, Gummo said:

I really don't see why any of them are obligated to fix a broken toilet. If you want to fix it, go ahead, but it doesn't make you a hero, a  martyr or a grown-up. 

THIS!  Yeah, be pissed but if you know how to fix it just DO IT without all the fucking f-bombs.  

Edited July 26, 2018 by Vixenstud

[Jess14]

3 minutes ago, gunderda said:

 That would be a negative, she's a recruit and had no idea what this game entailed. 

Do they not give them a season or 2 to watch in advance (this may have been discussed at length before and if so, my apologies)? 

[TimWil]

49 minutes ago, backformore said:

I also like Sam.  I got a good feeling about her from the start, and though it seems irrational at times, I like her.

  I know that sometimes a reaction to a new person can be based on a subconscious feeling about them - because they remind you of someone else you like, so you transfer those positive feelings to the new person.    Sam, to me, seems like Patty Duke and Sally Field, and maybe one or two of the girls from the show "Eight is Enough,"  and there's probably a "plucky" woman from an old western movie thrown in there.  Maybe I don't like Sam, herself, but she reminds me of women I do like.  Smart, savvy, unpretentious, genuine.  She might not really be all those things.  But that's my impression of her. 

I like this assessment. And I know this might seem quite a stretch but she also makes me think of Scout in To Kill a Mockingbird and how she turned out to be. Well, someone who looks like her and sounds like her but in the 1950s. 

[vb68]

1 minute ago, TimWil said:

Well, someone who looks like her and sounds like her but in the 1950s. 

Key point there-- in the '50s ;)

I do know what you mean, though.

[RandomWatcher]

Just saw a clip on Youtube where they think Bayleigh just told Kaitlyn she's late. If she is...congrats Swaggy?

[CrazyDog]

4 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Do they not give them a season or 2 to watch in advance (this may have been discussed at length before and if so, my apologies)? 

I thought they always gave them a couple of seasons to watch in pre-show sequester. What never fails to amaze me is how many HGs in every season don't understand how the feeds work, and that for the most part, everything is shown. That would have to be covered in the no doubt insane contracts that they sign, right? That's just bizarre. Random thoughts.

[gunderda]

28 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Do they not give them a season or 2 to watch in advance (this may have been discussed at length before and if so, my apologies)? 

They do but they don't have to watch them. But it's just the episodes so they probably dont get a good idea of what it's like to live in the house.  All they see is competitions, diary room sessions and the filler stuff. 

[SiobhanJW]

2 hours ago, Cutty said:

I don't think they have enough time for everything to be shown on the episode and an HOH competition. I'm guessing the HOH will be an hour or two after the episode and not shown on the feeds. Trivia of some kind. 

I think they will have enough time. They were ready for it the last 3 weeks to do it incase Sam used it- that's why they were doing the voting earlier in the hour so that there was enough time for the eviction and then comp if needed. 

But also- they don't have the "Power App" to fill the Sunday episode anymore- so it is possible they do the HOH after the show so it airs in the episode on Sunday? 

Hmm.. I just thought of that as I was responding. So now I don't know. Haha. 

[Callaphera]

3 hours ago, RagePaige said:

Quick Announcement.  Today is Rockstar's baby's 7 month birthday according to her.  Not even kidding.

A week after her daughter's birthday eve? How could she?

1 hour ago, cork dork said:

Ooooh, Sam the Pious just went all in on being Aunt Sam and she’s pissed off, y’all. 

Discovering the toilet seat downstairs is no longer attached to the toilet, being told “it broke” by Angela sent Aunt Sam to another planet (probably Mars because war, angry, etc). 

The rant includes many fucks, including, “sometimes I think I’m the only adult in here” and “so if the toilet at your house breaks, you just throw it in the trash?” 

She’s gonna go bonkers being back downstairs and I’m looking forward to it. 

Boy, if Sam sticks around, she's going to get increasingly pissed off as the house starts falling apart around them. Things break in the Big Brother house all the time because Production doesn't want to spend that much money on it. The fact that they've only broken the plexi-glass on the front door and a toilet seat is pretty good so far for a season. I'm waiting for the inevitable breaking of the coffee maker or the vacuum. That should send Sam around the bend.

ETA: I gotta say, even knowing the outcome of the vote tonight, I'm ridiculously excited for tonight. It's nice to be excited to see the broadcast shows again. BB20 is delivering this year and it's so nice after last season's dreck. 

Edited July 26, 2018 by Callaphera

[gunderda]

Fessy and Tyler talking about Kaitlyn i think - laughing - Tyler says she won't see their goodbye messages if she comes back - Tyler says he asked.  They laugh - they must have said something in them about her telling both of them that she had feelings for them. 

16 minutes ago, SiobhanJW said:

I think they will have enough time. They were ready for it the last 3 weeks to do it incase Sam used it- that's why they were doing the voting earlier in the hour so that there was enough time for the eviction and then comp if needed. 

But also- they don't have the "Power App" to fill the Sunday episode anymore- so it is possible they do the HOH after the show so it airs in the episode on Sunday? 

Hmm.. I just thought of that as I was responding. So now I don't know. Haha. 

I think it's happened at least once before.... so I think it's definitely possible that we don't see the HOH tonight 

and it always happens that way after the double eviction

[Lonesome Rhodes]

It's a guarantee that the evictee will not leave, correct?  I doubt anyone will even walk through the door.

Anyone catch any hints as to a return opportunity for previously evicted hamsters?   

Edited July 26, 2018 by Lonesome Rhodes

[Stinamaia]

My problem with Sam is this:  she primly and self righteously proclaims herself as a self empowered woman because she is a “lady,” but her definition of “lady” seems highly idiosyncratic.  It includes smoking cigarettes and weed, intense cursing, drinking, loving men more than women, denouncing women for unladylike behavior, and probably some things I’m forgetting.   Fine.  If that’s her world view, I don’t care.  However, she demands that others abide by ladylike rules of behavior that are vague and inchoate.  She’s very preachy.  

There are some things to admire about her, but the hypocracy and idea that men are helpless victims of women’s wiles is too much for me

[GalvDuck]

3 minutes ago, Lonesome Rhodes said:

It's a guarantee that the evictee will not leave, correct?  I doubt anyone will even walk through the door.

Anyone catch any hints as to a return opportunity for previously evicted hamsters?   

I think there's a possibility that the evictee will leave, but then be escorted up through a back production hallway into the elusive Power App/Pandora's Box/Mr. Pectacular Meet & Greet Lounge/whatever-you-want-to-call it.  Maybe that's where they will engage in the challenge to determine if they come back or not. 

Just my guess....

[Callaphera]

So, for those who might not watch the live feeds, this is what we talk about when we complain about JC's constant singing. They didn't go to fish every time, but this small clip is only a bit of the ten minutes or so that JC went back and forth with Production over his singing. https://streamable.com/x9lti

There's accidentally singing when you don't mean to and getting called out and then there's what JC does. They've been in the house for five weeks (? it's four weeks of feeds plus the week we don't see, right?) and he hasn't been able to stop yet. I kinda hope they do slap a penalty nom on him and he keeps racking up the offenses for penalty votes. 

But then I always remember that week of Matt eating cereal while a Have Not last season and joking about his 62 penalty votes for each bowl he ate and he never got a penalty nom. He wasn't disrupting the live feeds the way JC is, though. I know there had been talk that Production had warned them that if the singing continued, the backyard would be shut off for everyone's use but I kinda hope that they hold true to that because could you imagine how pissed off Sam would be that JC got the backyard shut down?

[Ceeg]

Not watching at the moment, but saw this on twitter:

Tyler to Kaitlyn - I love your positivity and everything you stand for. I've never met anyone like you. You're like the most beautiful person I've ever met.

What is he doing? He's either voting for her to stay, or he's got ice water in his veins. 

[green]

4 hours ago, IndyMischa said:

This is the twitter-er who is always right about spoilers and such, so I believe it. But that does raise the question, what was SaggyDB talking about, when he said he wouldn't reveal her secret that would wreck her life?

What was Swaggy talking about?  Take your pick:  (1) He knowingly  lies  (2) He spreads a rumor  (3) He is delusional and believes stuff he makes up  (4) All of the above.

 

2 hours ago, GalvDuck said:

I can't drop Sam yet.  I know, I know...everyone else is pissed at her.

Not everyone.  Never ever take what a half dozen posters say here about everyone hating any contestant in any show as some sort of universal consensus.  Stand up and not be afraid to say what you believe.  Sorry, but nothing makes me more angry then when there is a group pile-on and some modest soul feels afraid to say anything contrary.

2 hours ago, The Companion said:

I am in the club too. Honestly, while I don't like some of the things she has said, I also hate every reality contestant who has ever relied solely on flirting (bonus hate if they start by telling us how they have this brilliant plan to flirt with boys in their intro video), so that may be part of it. I also just like her frank personality and sense of humor.

Me too.  I'd like if she included the men in this tirade and this season especially creepy Fessy.  But reality show contestants aren't all going to be Mahatma Gandhi so I'll take what I can get for someone saying stop the madness to at least half the genders.  I just hope Sam realizes some day as she matures that yes men can control themselves.   That is her biggest blindspot right now from my pov.  Also stop smoking so you can grow older and wiser

I have had it with showmances, endless gross bodily grooming patterns shall we call them and people "doing it" on live TV feeds and thinking it is all fine and dandy then crying afterwards that their parents or grandparents might see them.

2 hours ago, zorak said:

Here is a more complete transcription:

"I feel like I'm the only fucking adult in here.  It's ridiculous.  What would happen if this were your house?  You'd just throw the whole toilet away?  Buy a new toilet?  You fucking fix it and wash your fucking hands afterwards.  A bunch of fucking pussies.  Fix the fucking toilet.  You know how I know I'm the only fucking one who can put it back together because I'm the only one who fucking cleans it.  It's broken.  Somebody broke it.  It's fucking pathetic."  And all the while, Brett, Angela, and Haleigh were in the bathroom sitting in awkward silence.

Now that is the Sam I love.  Read the riot act to those idiots!

1 hour ago, Irishsecra said:

I also like Sam and I am not apologizing for it.She is different but I really feel that her heart is in the right place for the most part.

I'm not apologizing either.  Sam is not perfect.  Her brother apparently was deeply hurt by someone that must remind her of some of the women in the House.  She psychologically undergoes transference which happens with a lot of people unfortunately.  At 23 is it she has a good chance to grow out of it at least.

Yeah judging others isn't cool but we all are judging others here too so we all are kind of casting the first stone.  So I feel I have no moral authority myself to go after Sam on that issue.

Edited July 26, 2018 by green

[IndyMischa]

5 minutes ago, green said:

What was Swaggy talking about?  Take your pick:  (1) He knowingly  lies  (2) He spreads a rumor  (3) He is delusional and believes stuff he makes up  (4) All of the above.

Good call, wtf was I thinking?? 

[Lonesome Rhodes]

7 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

Not watching at the moment, but saw this on twitter:

Tyler to Kaitlyn - I love your positivity and everything you stand for. I've never met anyone like you. You're like the most beautiful person I've ever met.

What is he doing? He's either voting for her to stay, or he's got ice water in his veins. 

He knows she is going nowhere and he loses nothing by being nice and supportive now.  He knows she is a major problem for him, or even an enemy.

[Sara2009]

5 hours ago, Katesus7 said:

Has anyone talked to Scottie at all about his vote?  I have to say, I thought he was a bit too aggressive as HOH last week, but he's managed to successfully fade into the background this week.

Who would’ve predicted that Sam would go nuts and make everyone forget about him?

[Skycatcher]

1 hour ago, RandomWatcher said:

Just saw a clip on Youtube where they think Bayleigh just told Kaitlyn she's late. If she is...congrats Swaggy?

 I've also seen it reported that she's had an upset stomach lately.

If she is, and if she makes jury, that's another two months before she gets out of the house. I wonder if BB would get her a pee-stick, and if there's a + , arrange for an OB/GYN? Or would she DOR?

And Swaggy would get to see it all on TV (wicked grins). Or would production pretend it's not happening and avoid shooting it?

BB BABY WATCH!

Edited July 26, 2018 by Skycatcher

[Ceeg]

8 minutes ago, Lonesome Rhodes said:

He knows she is going nowhere and he loses nothing by being nice and supportive now.  He knows she is a major problem for him, or even an enemy.

Idk, I think it's kind of cruel if he's saying all this, knowing he's voting her out. And I like Tyler and am not a Kaitlyn fan. 

Tbh, my dream scenario is Kaitlyn coming back and winning HOH and sticking both Fessy and Tyler on the block. 

Edited July 26, 2018 by Ceeg

[Lonesome Rhodes]

Just now, Ceeg said:

Idk, I think it's kind of cruel if he's saying all this, knowing he's voting her out. And I like Tyler and am not a Kaitlyn fan. 

Isn't this the essence of BB?  Manipulation to minimize trouble and maximize goodwill?

[peachmangosteen]

51 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

The fact that they've only broken the plexi-glass on the front door and a toilet seat is pretty good so far for a season.

 

Sam also broke the handle on the back door.

9 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

Idk, I think it's kind of cruel if he's saying all this, knowing he's voting her out. And I like Tyler and am not a Kaitlyn fan. 

It's very Dan in BB14. 

Damn, Sam shoulda been on last season. She would've fit right in.

Edited July 26, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[Nashville]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

Sam: "Being a lady is what makes me empowered."

Also Sam: 

Two things:

1. Maybe this is just a Southern thing, I dunno - but a large part of “being a lady” is knowing when to NOT be so much of a lady.  Because when a Southern lady stops being so much of a lady and unloads on you - brother, you KNOW it. It lands with impact.
2. Sam is obviously the “handyman” of the House - which I can relate to - and for that personality type, nothing is more galling than supposed adults dodging responsibility like children.  Ok, so the toilet seat lid is broken and you may not know how to fix it; that’s perfectly ok - and, given the majority of the House is of a generation apparently incapable of indulging in manual labor more complicated than operating an XBox controller, almost a given.  BUT - did anybody tell Production the toilet needed repair, or ask anybody if they knew how to fix it?  Apparently not; they just laid the detached lid on the bathroom floor, and left it to be an SEP (Someone Else’s Problem).  In terms of maturity, that’s right down there with the kids knowing the cat hacked up a hairball on the carpet, but stepping around it for hours - or days - waiting for Someone Else to clean it up.  It’s childish as fuck, and - to an adult, especially the adult who ends up cleaning up the mess - aggravating as fuck-all.  Me, I’d have been weaving a bunch of can’t-do-shit ignoramuses a profanity tapestry a lot worse than anything they got from Sam.

 

7 minutes ago, GalvDuck said:

I think there's a possibility that the evictee will leave, but then be escorted up through a back production hallway into the elusive Power App/Pandora's Box/Mr. Pectacular Meet & Greet Lounge/whatever-you-want-to-call it.  Maybe that's where they will engage in the challenge to determine if they come back or not. 

Just my guess....

My guess: 

1. Chenbot issues the eviction notice.
2. The evicted HG stands up, goes through the hug-a-thon (optional), and starts approaching the Front Door...
3. High-BroTech whoops and phasers and other assorted noises sound off, after which the BB Voice directs the evictee to immediately report to the BB App Store.
4. The evictee proceeds upstairs into the Store, and live-plays whatever task is set them.
5. Lose, and they leave the Store and proceed on out the FD.
6. Win, and they get a suitably garish Bonus Life necklace or some such, before excitedly rejoining the other HGs.

Just my guess - YMMV

[peachmangosteen]

Angela has never eaten a peanut butter & jelly sandwich. She's taken a bite and she didn't like it.

[Nashville]

26 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

What is [Tyler] doing? He's either voting for her to stay, or he's got ice water in his veins. 

The two aren’t mutually exclusive.  :>

[Ceeg]

5 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Angela has never eaten a peanut butter & jelly sandwich. She's taken a bite and she didn't like it.

How tf does one navigate life without ever having a PB&J?  

[peachmangosteen]

Well, it's Angela, who I believe is at least half robot, so it makes a bit more sense. 

All I know is I'm definitely eating a pb&j later.

[TimWil]

34 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

 

What is he doing? He's either voting for her to stay, or he's got ice water in his veins. 

I think he’s just playing the game and there ain’t nothing wrong with that.

[Nashville]

16 minutes ago, Skycatcher said:

 I've also seen it reported that she's had an upset stomach lately.

If she is, and if she makes jury, that's another two months before she gets out of the house. I wonder if BB would get her a pee-stick, and if there's a + , arrange for an OB/GYN? Or would she DOR?

And Swaggy would get to see it all on TV (wicked grins). Or would production pretend it's not happening and avoid shooting it?

BB BABY WATCH!

Well... BB is in its 20th season, and people have been screwing in the House since around BB4 in 2003.  TPTB are lucky as hell to have gone 15 years without a “workplace accident”.  OSHA would be proud.  :>

[peachmangosteen]

Kaitlyn believes she's staying, right? I'm assuming so since she isn't crying and carrying on. Man, tonight is gonna be good shit.

Fucking HELL Kaitlyn's baby voice is in full force right now.

Edited July 26, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[SiobhanJW]

49 minutes ago, Lonesome Rhodes said:

It's a guarantee that the evictee will not leave, correct?  I doubt anyone will even walk through the door.

Anyone catch any hints as to a return opportunity for previously evicted hamsters?   

My guess is- Julie will announce who is evicted- there is probably some sort of thing they have to do regarding the Power App- then she will just be sent upstairs- if she wins she come back down and joins the HG's if not then she leaves through the front door and has an interview with Julie (I just think they wouldn't NOT have an interview with her- she's been one of the main people in the game so far). 

All of the evicted HG's Steve, Swaggy & Winston have are all home- so it would just be a competition for her. 

[HurricaneVal]

9 minutes ago, Nashville said:

BUT - did anybody tell Production the toilet needed repair, or ask anybody if they knew how to fix it?  Apparently not; they just laid the detached lid on the bathroom floor, and left it to be an SEP (Someone Else’s Problem).

This.  Very much this.  It isn't just kids "these" days.  Back when I was in college mumblety-mumblety 35 mumblety-mumblety years ago it was the same thing.  I once came home from a whole day of classes to find my roommates having a grand old crazy eyed hissy bitchfest because another roommate's phone behind her locked bedroom door had been ringing non-stop for hours.  I walked in and they were all "Thank GOD you're home!  Chichi's phone has been going nonstop for hours now, and it is driving us crazy!"  So I ask, "Did you call Security, like we had to do last time?  Are they too busy to come out?"  "No....we were waiting for you."  Sigh.  Mr. HV has this problem all the time with his resident firefighters at the station house.  They're all young men, and full firefighters, but far from adulting competence.  This toilet seat thing is totally something they would do.  Drives Mr. HV insane....

[Ceeg]

13 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Well, it's Angela, who I believe is at least half robot, so it makes a bit more sense. 

All I know is I'm definitely eating a pb&j later.

I bought a bottle of wine for tonight's live feeds. It better not disappoint. 

[IndyMischa]

21 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

How tf does one navigate life without ever having a PB&J?  

... using a GPS unless it's somewhere I've been a hundred times. MiniMischa would happily eat pb sandwiches and jelly sandwiches, but the combo was a hard no. I have yet to change my mind. 

18 minutes ago, Nashville said:

Well... BB is in its 20th season, and people have been screwing in the House since around BB4 in 2003.  TPTB are lucky as hell to have gone 15 years without a “workplace accident”.  OSHA would be proud.  :>

You're killing me today, Nashville. ? ? 

[zibnchy]

5 hours ago, backformore said:

will she have a séance to call up the spirits if all the HG's dead relatives

Please we need to find a way to make this happen. I would even fork over cash for feeds to see that.

[gunderda]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

Angela has never eaten a peanut butter & jelly sandwich. She's taken a bite and she didn't like it.

I’m 35 and JUST learned about a month ago that’s my mom does not like pb&j sandwiches. I almost thought about disowning her. 

 

I think tyler is playing with Kaitlyn since him and fessy have been comparing notes. And he’s probably really pissed she keeps bringing up his dad. 

Edited July 26, 2018 by gunderda

[Katesus7]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

Angela has never eaten a peanut butter & jelly sandwich. She's taken a bite and she didn't like it.

Never even had a bite. Even the thought makes me ill. I have a huge aversion to what I call “wet bread”. I love the thought of a meatball sub, but would never in a million years attempt one. French Onion soup is what I’ll be served for every meal if I end up in hell.

Yeah. It’s a ‘thing’.

Edited July 26, 2018 by Katesus7

[Sandycat]

2 hours ago, gunderda said:

They do but they don't have to watch them. But it's just the episodes so they probably dont get a good idea of what it's like to live in the house.  All they see is competitions, diary room sessions and the filler stuff. 

I think Swaggy only saw the episodes so didn’t really get the whole social aspect of the game and that the comps only take up a small fraction of the time

[Callaphera]

1 minute ago, Katesus7 said:

Never even had a bite. Even the thought makes me ill. I have a huge aversion to what I call “wet bread”. I love the thought of a meatball sandwich, but would never in a million years attempt one. French Onion soup is what I’ll be served for every meal if I end up in hell.

Yeah. It’s a ‘thing’.

I've got a fair number of food aversions simply because they're either too strong of a taste (onions, green peppers) or I don't like the feel of it in my mouth (avocado, tomato) so I can't judge, either. Y'all would have a field day watching me eat in there. 

[Skycatcher]

15 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

 Y'all would have a field day watching me eat in there. 

 I couldn't do it. I have so many food allergies and sensitivities that most of what they eat, I can't. After seeing the way they handle food, the rest of what they eat, I won't.

[CrazyDog]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

Angela has never eaten a peanut butter & jelly sandwich. She's taken a bite and she didn't like it.

I'm at work, without food, and this sounds absolutely delicious right now. 

My weird food thing is I can't stand many raw veggies - the "squeak" of raw broccoli or green beans when eaten just gives me the heebie jeebies. Ugh. Plus, I'm totally weird about hygiene in the kitchen - I can barely watch the HGs when they're cooking because I just want to run in there with antibacterial wipes and clean everything down. Once you've had food poisoning, you never forget.

I can't wait for tonight, but I'm always commuting during the live show, and get home and have to catch up on all the pages and pages of comments, lol. 

[Callaphera]

3 minutes ago, Skycatcher said:

 I couldn't do it. I have so many food allergies and sensitivities that most of what they eat, I can't. After seeing the way they handle food, the rest of what they eat, I won't.

I would be guarding my container of lactose free milk like whoa. And requesting really shitty stuff like Betty Crocker boxed scalloped potatoes because why the fuck would I be cooking real scalloped potatoes at summer camp? Pfft, gimme that cheesy boxed goodness that has bonus lactose in it so I can join the Little Fartlettes. 

[lilabennet]

I have always wondered: without the food comps do the houseguests give production a grocery list or is it basically a free for all to scrounge the best out of whatever they decide to give them? If I requested something specific does that mean it is mine or can other houseguests eat it?

[Skycatcher]

6 minutes ago, lilabennet said:

.......without the food comps 

 I know we say this every year, but I really miss the food comps. They were always fun especially when America got to vote.

[RandomWatcher]

Since I'm not much of a cook, I would either be  relying on nothing but sandwiches or other house guests cooking and hoping they don't accidentally give me food poisoning.

[Sandycat]

1 hour ago, Callaphera said:

I've got a fair number of food aversions simply because they're either too strong of a taste (onions, green peppers) or I don't like the feel of it in my mouth (avocado, tomato) so I can't judge, either. Y'all would have a field day watching me eat in there. 

There are so many things I don’t eat that I’d probably live off of sandwiches, cereal, and protein shakes

[Lonesome Rhodes]

It's amazing to me that many, if not most, hamsters actually gain weight as the weeks drag on.  Lots of grazing out of boredom, but as y'all have been pointing out - ewwwwwww!