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S05.E13: The Skinny


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4 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Buddy saying that he and Heather are not getting back together. For now. See, it's the For Now that keeps Heather's hopes up. I think Buddy's craptastic ego enjoys stringing Heather along just a lil' bit. 

And why has he not gotten a job in 6 mos? 

I can't stand him. 

That jumped out at me. He goes on about making it clear that it’s over and she needs to move on. Yet he makes comments like that and how she’s his girl. Heather is so desperate for any thread of hope that she won’t move on as long as he keeps saying things like that. 

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10 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Oh poor niave Ashley, you lost more weight because Whit was binge eating in her car. We saw as much when Will caught her. For someone who doesn't care she sure seems concerned about how she looks eating on TV.

I laughed when Ashley said they were eating the same thing, and Whit wasn’t losing weight. I have kids that I’m pretty certain are way more up in my business than Ashley is with Whit. Yet I’ve managed to smuggle yummy food in the house and sneak eat under the cover of darkness too many times to count. Oddly enough, not one has questioned why I’m fluffy. 

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2 hours ago, mamey2422 said:

Buddy: No. Said on the Tell All that he hasn’t worked in 6 months. 

Heather: Yes. I follow her on Instagram and she posts some work-related stuff. She has some sort of writing/editing job. She does a couple things on the side too, like Shipt.

Ashley: Yes. She mentioned on Instagram how hard it was to leave her baby to go back to work and posts some work photos. I think it’s a customer service role for a utility or phone company  

Tal: Yes. He said he’s a counselor in the addiction/recovery field. 

Todd: No idea. 

Glenn: Yes though I can’t remember what he does for a living. 

Babs: No, I think she’s been a stay at home mom since she had kids. 

Apropos Buddy, rehab and sober living is VERY expensive. HIs parents must be funding it.

Tal: Addiction counseling is a terrible-paying field unless you can get entrepreneurial.

Glenn: Manages a printing shop in a town 70 miles away.

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15 hours ago, 3girlsforus said:

I don’t think Buddy has ever been i to Whitney either. I think there was a time he liked her as a friend but now I think that’s gone too. He couldn’t wait to get away from her. I wouldn’t be surprised if he begged his rehab place to insist that he move elsewhere to give him an excuse to get out of Dodge. I don’t particularly like Buddy but I was cheering him on as he made a run for Charleston and then didn’t have time for Whitney when she showed up. 

I see nothing but platonic friendship with any of them, but, I get why Buddy in this stage of recovery may not need to be around a person who has food issues, like Whit admits to having.  So, I get it.  He may never be able to rekindle that, but, your sobriety comes first.  

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49 minutes ago, Awfarmington said:

That jumped out at me. He goes on about making it clear that it’s over and she needs to move on. Yet he makes comments like that and how she’s his girl. Heather is so desperate for any thread of hope that she won’t move on as long as he keeps saying things like that. 

Yeah, I wonder if Buddy is really all that inexperienced that he doesn't know how to actually part ways civilly.  All that talk AFTER you break up isn't helpful.  I just get the idea that he's not that considerate and rather selfish.  I really wish Heather could realize that life with Buddy would likely be full of hurt, because look at what he's doing to her now and has for over a year.  She seems to yearn for what could have been and not the reality.

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8 hours ago, JDAlexander said:

But....but....we're not giving her enough credit for only eating HALF of the giant pizza-sized cookie from her floorboard!  Waaaaaah!

I'm actually willing to give Whitney credit for a half eaten cookie, because there is no possibility I could leave half a cookie uneaten in my car, no matter what the size.  On the other hand, I would never have brought a monster cookie into my car in the first place.

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58 minutes ago, Awfarmington said:

I laughed when Ashley said they were eating the same thing, and Whit wasn’t losing weight. I have kids that I’m pretty certain are way more up in my business than Ashley is with Whit. Yet I’ve managed to smuggle yummy food in the house and sneak eat under the cover of darkness too many times to count. Oddly enough, not one has questioned why I’m fluffy. 

Whit had a slightly abashed look for a moment while Ashley was telling this story. 

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8 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

I completely agree with everyone who said Whitney did not follow the diet Ashley was on when she lost weight and Whitney didn’t. But I also want to know where they were weighing in. Someone who is 380+ can’t just get on any scale. Makes me question the whole story.  

I was hoping for Dr. Now to crash the set, offer a no-nonsense tirade about Whitney's poor 'eating habit', scowl at her, then exit in a huff.

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On 3/24/2018 at 10:13 PM, TurtlePower said:

I like this and Whitney is all over the board as to what's "wrong" with her. I think maybe "gluttony" needs (for her) replaced with food addiction. She won't admit it, though she's claimed to have been ED/bulimia. The woman has a food addiction. She wants "acceptance" for that, so hence the "No BS" campaign, which leads to her "victim" mentality. 

As All Hat No Cattle says, she could seek help. She's got the means and the support but she thinks any support is "shaming" her if they call her out. Typical addict behavior. So in regards to her claiming "victim", she has the ability to change her "condition". Amputees and burn victims do not. 

I listen to Whitney talk about how mean people are to her and by extension to all fat people, and I think about how Dr. Now dismisses all that kind of talk as excuses.  I'm sure there are people who tell her to kill herself and other cruel things, and that's awful.  As an old lady, I don't "do" social media, so it's hard for me to understand why she doesn't stop reading it, but it seems to me that with all those barnacles, she could get someone to screen her messages so she isn't exposed to that kind of trolling.  And for the short time I've read this site, I've never seen anyone post anything so cruel about her.

I don't know anything about PCOS or much about eating disorders or food addiction, but I do know that if a person really wants to lose weight, she'll power through those obstacles, seeking help when she needs it and submitting herself to whatever program it takes to help her succeed.  We make fun of her calling her life "fabulous" because it's plainly anything but, but her weight is a serious threat to her health, and she needs to lose some of it.  When Buddy talked about how his mother got to him by telling him she feared having to bury him, I thought of Whitney's parents who must surely have harbored those thoughts--they even did a funeral-intervention, to no avail.

If she's going to expose her life--I'm not talking about her body, but her *life*--as she does, she's going to need to acknowledge that it's not fabulous *because* of her weight, not in spite of it.  I was glad to hear her acknowledge that the pain in her feet during the Hawaiian 8K was because she is fat.  Would that she could be so honest about the rest of her failed attempts at being fabulous.

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2 hours ago, Brooks said:

I'm actually willing to give Whitney credit for a half eaten cookie, because there is no possibility I could leave half a cookie uneaten in my car, no matter what the size.  On the other hand, I would never have brought a monster cookie into my car in the first place.

I'd be willing to bet that she bought that cookie on the way to her workout (it didn't seem to be on the floor with the other containers) and was going to scarf it down right after her session. 

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2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

In order to maintain her weight, Whit has to be consuming an incredible amount of calories, imo. 

I would have thought so, too, but according to this page https://www.lifespanfitness.com/fitness/resources/calories-calculator she needs only about 3500 per day.  Which is frightening, because I am sure that there are days when I binge eat at least that many calories.  It only proves that cheating, even a little, on a diet can be catastrophic.  And even if fat people eat ice cream, is Whitney eating a "serving"--which is 1/2 cup--or the whole container?

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5 minutes ago, SouthernCross said:

And why is she hiding in her car?  It would never occur to me to go to the local park to gorge myself on food. Weird.

In an earlier season, when Buddy found her eating a gallon of ice cream in a parking lot, she called it "PLT," for parking lot time--a special place to find time for herself.

If you think about it, being in the car is the easiest place to hide without, you know, having to walk anywhere.

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25 minutes ago, Mothra said:

I listen to Whitney talk about how mean people are to her and by extension to all fat people, and I think about how Dr. Now dismisses all that kind of talk as excuses.  I'm sure there are people who tell her to kill herself and other cruel things, and that's awful.  As an old lady, I don't "do" social media, so it's hard for me to understand why she doesn't stop reading it, but it seems to me that with all those barnacles, she could get someone to screen her messages so she isn't exposed to that kind of trolling.  And for the short time I've read this site, I've never seen anyone post anything so cruel about her.

There's a guy named Simon Sinek in a video called Millennials in the Workplace. It's about why they're hard to manage in a work environment, but he talks about social media and how it affects them. If you go to about 2:35, he says that it puts a rosy filter on life, and engagement with technology releases dopamine in the brain. Whenever you get a text or a like, you get a hit of dopamine, and that's addictive. He says someone Whitney's age has been getting these dopamine hits starting at a very young age, while their brain is still developing. Now that they're adults, their brains are hard wired for this. I don't know how much truth there is to this, and I don't think this guy is a brain specialist. I did find what he said to be one plausible explanation for why so many neurotypical people can't seem to stop using social media, in spite of so many distasteful consequences. I think he's one of those "leadership" people who does speeches for a living, nevertheless it's interesting.

I don't think the barnacles are going to screen her comments because they don't really like her. Heather might be persuaded to do it because she's reading and responding to stuff anyway (Hi, Heather!). Somewhere on this forum, there is a screen cap of Whitney responding rudely to a fan saying that she doesn't have a social media person and can't afford one. I don't think she would get one even if she could afford one, partly due to the dopamine effect, and partly because all of it, including the negative stuff, feeds her ego. It's all about her.

This site is not the source of what she is talking about. I haven't seen anything of the sort on Facebook, either. It would probably be on Twitter or Instagram, most likely Instagram. Twitter has been cracking down on users for anything and everything lately, so if anyone was doing it there I doubt it would have been in place for very long. I don't know about Instagram. I don't go there, but I've been told it's a madhouse of monkeys flinging poo in the comments. It seems to be a bastion of illiteracy and immaturity upon glancing at it-- just the place where people who make the suicide comments would congregate.

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Another thing that's really sad about Whitney's determination not to lose weight is that imo it is possible to be overweight yet healthy, even fabulous.  I think Melissa McCarthy is fabulous.  Especially if Whitney dreams of being a "professional dancer" (I need some help here in understanding just what this means; to me "professional dancer" means Fred Astaire) she needs to take care of her "instrument" above all else. 

If you go to the store and pick up a ten-pound bag of potatoes, it feels pretty heavy--at least, to me it does.  Imagine spending your life with that tied to your back.  Losing a relatively small amount of weight--like ten pounds--would make Whitney feel better.  And as Dr. Now says, if you're not losing, you're gaining.  At her weight, I would imagine that her initial weight loss--if she followed a diet--would be significant enough to change her life.  I bet she would lose 50 pounds in a month if she stayed on a diet that long, and she would still be fat, but what a difference it would make in her ability to move.  If she got herself down to 300 pounds, I bet she'd be able to do all the things she wants to do but can't do now.

And I still don't understand why she isn't diabetic.  Or is she, and we just haven't be told?

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12 minutes ago, LordOfLotion said:

There's a guy named Simon Sinek in a video called Millennials in the Workplace. It's about why they're hard to manage in a work environment, but he talks about social media and how it affects them. If you go to about 2:35, he says that it puts a rosy filter on life, and engagement with technology releases dopamine in the brain. Whenever you get a text or a like, you get a hit of dopamine, and that's addictive. He says someone Whitney's age has been getting these dopamine hits starting at a very young age, while their brain is still developing. Now that they're adults, their brains are hard wired for this.

Thanks for that most interesting video.  It makes a lot of sense to me (thinking not only of Whitney but of my son and his friends), and in fact I now have to stop feeling so smug about not using social media.  I have to start questioning why I check hourly at this site to see if I have any new notifications.  Thanks a lot, Lord.

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22 minutes ago, Mothra said:

And I still don't understand why she isn't diabetic.  Or is she, and we just haven't be told?

A couple of season's ago her Dr. told her she was borderline. She was horrified and scared shitless. Has she done anything about it since then? Noooooo! She's as fat as ever. She's still young(ish). It's just a matter of time before her cholesterol levels, sugar levels and blood pressure will skyrocket in to the danger zone and have a direct negative effect on her health and she is put on many meds or worse yet has a heart attack. I assume she doesn't smoke, right? Bad lifestyle choices can be a bitch and WILL come back to haunt you as you get older. That's why I get so infuriated when Shitney says you can be fat and healthy. No, you can't. Just wait until she's in to her 40's and beyond. 

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10 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

I assume she doesn't smoke, right?

No, she's a smoker. She did a talking head about her habit in one of the earlier seasons, Will Powell the trainer commented on it when she asked if he would take her back as a client after she regained the 100 lbs. she lost while working with him, there was a mention during the Lennie relationship that she had stopped smoking, but took it up again because he smoked.

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2 hours ago, Mothra said:

And even if fat people eat ice cream, is Whitney eating a "serving"--which is 1/2 cup--or the whole container?

I'm watching the older ones, and one was when said she was serious about getting healthy.
Glenn brought he some single-pack tuna servings, and some of those half-cup tupperware containers that he suggested for yogurt.
She cracked up at their size, said they'd hold a spoonful, and was sure they were meant for ice cubes, not food.
I've recorded the Skinny show for that season, and I think I have the parade.

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1 hour ago, Mothra said:

Especially if Whitney dreams of being a "professional dancer" (I need some help here in understanding just what this means;

To me, being a professional anything, means that you are able to make your living do it, or at least make some money at it.

3 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

I don’t know a lot about Dr. No having only seen his show a few times, but is this something he says about all people or just morbidly obese? 

Every patient on his show is morbidly obese, although there are a few who don't make 600 lbs,.  Also, there are some who are 700 lbs+.
Hey if anyone wants to drop by, live chat for tonight's show.

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5 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

I don’t know a lot about Dr. No having only seen his show a few times, but is this something he says about all people or just morbidly obese? 

He routinely tells his patients who insist they are maintaining their current weight that it is not true.  He says that they will always be gaining once they get to a certain level (out of control) of obesity.   Also, at Whitney's height which irrc is 5'2'' ,at her weight she is the equivalent to being 500-600lbs.

Someone who is taller would at Whitneys weight would still have ankles,a neck and mobility. Whitney has no neck, ankles and limited mobility.

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12 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

I don’t know a lot about Dr. No having only seen his show a few times, but is this something he says about all people or just morbidly obese? 

He has only had occasion to say this about his patients, but I suspect it's true of anyone who is morbidly obese.  JMO, though.  I doubt that he would say that about anyone of normal or near-normal weight.

I should clarify that he says this when he has sent his patients home with a diet and the expectation that they will lose a certain amount in a month or two.  When they don't lose weight, or lose only a few pounds, I think he means that their trajectory is upward bound.

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17 hours ago, 3girlsforus said:

She isn’t trying to lose weight. She says that specifically. 

I think only after this show is cancelled will she attempt to drop poundage. Her being obese is what is putting cash in her Piggly Wiggly account. She would not be anything if she was a normal size girl, well she isnt anything special now either, just a morbidly obese self obsessed 30 yr old something who thinks she is witty when in fact she is whineyt.  I wanted true journalism from whats her face, like the tough questions on how does she wipe her own ass, tie her shoes, and shave her legs....

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13 minutes ago, Cherrio said:

He routinely tells his patients who insist they are maintaining their current weight that it is not true.  He says that they will always be gaining once they get to a certain level (out of control) of obesity.   Also, at Whitney's height which irrc is 5'2'' ,at her weight she is the equivalent to being 500-600lbs.

Someone who is taller would at Whitneys weight would still have ankles,a neck and mobility. Whitney has no neck, ankles and limited mobility.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. I can see how this would be true for the morbidly obese. I was concerned at the idea of a doctor saying that to all people. Obviously that could be a dangerous message for some. 

Boy oh boy, does Buddy love having Heather fawn all over him.  Someone needs to get Heather some "hang in there" affirmation posters or something.  The thought that she is so hung up on Buddy is terribly sad.  

Whitney: Can I give her a hug?  I want to give her a hug.  I'm going to give her a hug!

Heather: ::Gets up to get a hug from Whitney::  

JFC, you can't get up and make your way over to your friend?  Fuck off, no thanks.

The irony of Buddy telling that recovering alcoholic comedian to "go have a drink" a few reunions ago keeps popping back in my mind.  Maybe the reason he felt such vitriol toward her is because a.) he saw too much of himself in her or b.) she had him made as a fellow alcohol abuser.  Hm.

Next season will be all about Whit's IVF/fertility/adoption journey.  This gang has only begun to whet their appetite on the reality tv carcass.  

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28 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

I don’t know a lot about Dr. No having only seen his show a few times, but is this something he says about all people or just morbidly obese? 

Dr Now was speaking to a specific client when he said that. Justin Assanti, bro of the notorious Steven, refused treatment but allowed Dr Now to check in with him now & then. On one phone call, Justin said he was "maintaining" his 600-lb. weight. Dr Now replied, "At 600 pounds, you aren't maintaining; you are either gaining or losing."

I have stated I believe this can be said of anyone who has arrived at super morbid obesity, using my past history as evidence. But neither Dr Now nor I nor anyone else has said this is true of people of normal weight.

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2 hours ago, LordOfLotion said:

There's a guy named Simon Sinek in a video called Millennials in the Workplace. It's about why they're hard to manage in a work environment, but he talks about social media and how it affects them. If you go to about 2:35, he says that it puts a rosy filter on life, and engagement with technology releases dopamine in the brain. Whenever you get a text or a like, you get a hit of dopamine, and that's addictive. He says someone Whitney's age has been getting these dopamine hits starting at a very young age, while their brain is still developing. Now that they're adults, their brains are hard wired for this. I don't know how much truth there is to this, and I don't think this guy is a brain specialist. I did find what he said to be one plausible explanation for why so many neurotypical people can't seem to stop using social media, in spite of so many distasteful consequences. I think he's one of those "leadership" people who does speeches for a living, nevertheless it's interesting.

 

That was interesting. Thanks for posting it. 

What he is discussing applies to almost anyone who engages in social media today, and allows it to dominate their life in a big way. I don't own a cell phone anymore, because it frustrated me when family or friends chose texting as the primary form of communicating with me.  Don't get me wrong, It is a handy tool, but not an replacement for real time communication. I'm going to be filled with dread when my sister visits later this month and spends most of her time with her phone or tablet pinging with constant texts from her kids/husband. It does send the message: "I haven't seen you for 2 years, but I'm still going to ignore what you're saying and laugh at a text my kid just sent me instead." I find that I disengage now, and busy myself doing something else. 

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 I propose they rename this show for next season.  It should be called "My Big Fat Life." .dropping the word fabulous.  After watching this season, I fail to see where there is anything that even remotely resembles Whitney living a "Fabulous" life.   Let's hear some other suggestions for a new show title!!

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7 hours ago, Awfarmington said:

That jumped out at me. He goes on about making it clear that it’s over and she needs to move on. Yet he makes comments like that and how she’s his girl. Heather is so desperate for any thread of hope that she won’t move on as long as he keeps saying things like that. 

I was never entirely clear on the aspects of Buddy's life circumstances, physical appearance, emotional depth and/or character that seem to be a magnet for Heather (and, I presume, other women) causing him to be considered irresistible.  Maybe someone can enlighten me???

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2 minutes ago, Swiss said:

 I propose they rename this show for next season.  It should be called "My Big Fat Life. .drop the word fabulous.  After watching this season, I fail to see where there is anything that even remotely resembles Whitney living a "Fabulous" life.   Let's hear some other suggestions for a new show title!!

My Big Fat Flabulous Life...

2 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

I was never entirely clear on the aspects of Buddy's life circumstances, physical appearance, emotional depth and/or character that seem to be a magnet for Heather (and, I presume, other women) causing him to be considered irresistible.  Maybe someone can enlighten me???

I don't understand this myself. He's a drug addict with a slur and a sinus infection. 

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37 minutes ago, Swiss said:

 I propose they rename this show for next season.  It should be called "My Big Fat Life." .dropping the word fabulous.  After watching this season, I fail to see where there is anything that even remotely resembles Whitney living a "Fabulous" life.   Let's hear some other suggestions for a new show title!!

My Big Fatuous Fabricated Life

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39 minutes ago, Swiss said:

 I propose they rename this show for next season.  It should be called "My Big Fat Life." .dropping the word fabulous.  After watching this season, I fail to see where there is anything that even remotely resembles Whitney living a "Fabulous" life.   Let's hear some other suggestions for a new show title!!

Big Fat Cruise Down Denial River

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39 minutes ago, Swiss said:

 I propose they rename this show for next season.  It should be called "My Big Fat Life." .dropping the word fabulous.  After watching this season, I fail to see where there is anything that even remotely resembles Whitney living a "Fabulous" life.   Let's hear some other suggestions for a new show title!!

My Big Fat Fabulous Lie

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