S08.E12: Gag Gift

[zoeysmom]

11 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Wait.  Her ex husband is an 'innocent'?  Did he not have an affair before splitting from Camille?  Kelsey is no 'innocent'.  Being 'quiet' doesn't prove innocence.  It can also be guilt.  Your MMV.  What does Camille's past have to do with anything?

I never said or wrote Kelsey Grammer is an innocent.  Kelsey Grammer cheated on Camille.  SO I don't know where that came from. What Camille chose to do afterwards to extract revenge is on her.  My point is that Camille takes revenge to the point that it forever alienates her target.  There was collateral damage and Camille whined about Kelsey having zero contact with her.  Recently Camille was quoted as saying she decided to stop bad mouthing Kelsey so they could "parallel parent", meaning he still will not directly engage in conversation with her.  She also said he was a good and supportive.  

Camille is all about the revenge and the person taking her snide comments and laughing at them.  Kind of backfired on her in the past when she made the comment to Faye Resnick and the rest of the cast was cutting up looking at her failed porn career.  

13 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Well, did Meyer's wife call the police?  Did she get a restraining order?  We don't know.  Except that his wife made a claim in a divorce filing.  We don't know, as of yet, what happened.  They've been separated since 2014.  And it seems that it may be a messy divorce.

A lawyer is a lawyer.  Their job is to represent people, even obvious criminals.  I'm sure there's a lot more to story than what Page Six says.  I can't conclude anything.  I'm not ready to condemn the man because of a Page Six story.  I do reserve the right to change my mind.

As for Dorit...she's the type of person who doesn't get the message.  She's that person who needs a dose of her own medicine to get through to her.  Dorit needs to know that her 'jokes' or making a big deal out of etiquette or repeating things that were said to her in confidence is not ok.  For me, her apologies are hollow.  I don't think Camille was looking for a fight at all.  I think Camille, as well as LVP, wanted to make a point that would get through to her.  It's not ok and you need to cut it out and shut up.  Dorit sees herself as this fabulous person with knowledge about etiquette, etc. but the reality is she has no class.

Camille called the police when her ex allegedly beat her and the Grand Jury failed to indict.  Does that mean the guy didn't beat Camille?  The guy filed suit against Camille for lying and it was dismissed-does that mean Camille doesn't lie?  The Page Six story came from the dissolution filings.  The attorney stuff was the writerr's stretch.  I have zero issues with who an attorney represents-it is their job and that is what they get paid to do. Meyers could represent Charles Manson and it wouldn't even register with me.  Having a wife file for divorce stating her husband gave her a concussion would give me pause before dating him -especially if as Camille contends, her last relationship ended in physical violence.  

Dorit got dosed.  Nothing Dorit repeated was not said on film so the private stuff is just utter nonsense.  I agree the night at Kyle's Dorit was out of control and should have apologized.  She did apologize and should have.  Even Camille said it seemed sincere. The idiotic nonsense jumping on LVP had nothing to do with an apology it was about trying to get LVP to forgive and re-instate her.  Funny how it kind of went full circle.  Dorit LVP, she apologized, LVP didn't forgive, Dorit tried to make it better, LVP extracted her form of revenge, Dorit got hurt, Dorit didn't forgive and LVP tried to make it better.  

I don't really think using the correct wine glass is about etiquette.  Picking up a Porterhouse steak with your are hands and chewing on it at the table might be about etiquette.  The weird thing is Teddi and Dorit had settled the issue until LVP and then Kyle butted in.  I don't think Dorit has any more or less class than the rest of this season's cast.  They all have their moments of boorish behavior and moments of divine elegance.   

[BBHN]

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What Camille chose to do afterwards to extract revenge is on her.  My point is that Camille takes revenge to the point that it forever alienates her target.

They had a messy divorce, I would hardly call it her being hell bent on revenge or whatever.

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Having a wife file for divorce stating her husband gave her a concussion would give me pause before dating him

Camille's case it at least on record with the police. We still haven't seen any evidence from her new guy's wife.

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Dorit got dosed. 

It by dosed you mean has been stirring up shit all season long, then yeah, Dorit has gotten dosed. Again and again and again...

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The weird thing is Teddi and Dorit had settled the issue until LVP and then Kyle butted in. 

Didn't LVP and Kyle butt-in at PK's party, where Dorit had brought up the issue to Teddi at the party?

[PerPlexied]

23 hours ago, Deniset said:

Yes she did apologize and Camille accepted. But Lisa R also apologized to Dorit which was accepted and what did Dorit do?  She turned right around and bad mouthed her along with PK at the dinner she invited Teddi and Edwin to. Dorit seems to think she can do and say whatever she wants but no one should be able to defend themselves or others. I would love to see Teddi tell Lisa R about that dinner conversation. 

Regarding Dorit's behavior I had my son who is a recovering drug addict watch the scene from PK's birthday party of Dorit confronting Teddi. I didn't explain anything about the show to him, just told him to watch and tell me what he thought about her. He told me she looked like she was on coke. 

Me thinks you'll get your wish. Remember in the original trailer we see Teddi saying "Lisa Rinna is schizophrenic." That has to be Teddi telling Rinna about the convo. 

[princelina]

3 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I don't really think using the correct wine glass is about etiquette.  Picking up a Porterhouse steak with your are hands and chewing on it at the table might be about etiquette.  The weird thing is Teddi and Dorit had settled the issue until LVP and then Kyle butted in.  I don't think Dorit has any more or less class than the rest of this season's cast.  They all have their moments of boorish behavior and moments of divine elegance.   

Dorit is the one who thinks that - she said so! IMO anyone who starts shit at someone else's party is the bad-mannered one, and since it's their job they all fall guilty of it and my annoyance with the perp is usually on a level with the event they are ruining (as in Amsterdam trip > Vegas trip > poker at Eileen's :)  But Dorit rudely making a deal out of the glass and then lecturing us in a TH that "It's etiquette - I can't help it if I know it" makes me want to tell her to shut it.

[RHJunkie]

28 minutes ago, princelina said:

Dorit is the one who thinks that - she said so! IMO anyone who starts shit at someone else's party is the bad-mannered one, and since it's their job they all fall guilty of it and my annoyance with the perp is usually on a level with the event they are ruining (as in Amsterdam trip > Vegas trip > poker at Eileen's :)  But Dorit rudely making a deal out of the glass and then lecturing us in a TH that "It's etiquette - I can't help it if I know it" makes me want to tell her to shut it.

I think Dorit is getting an unfair rep for the whole wine glass incident. She wasn't rude when she made the request to the server and even though she could have easily just left the wine alone in the glass she had, it doesn't mean that she's a snobby bitch either. Ask anyone who takes their recreational beverage choices seriously, the glass does impact the experience and there's a reason why there are such things as a 'champagne glass', 'wine glass', 'beer mug', etc. Just because not everyone cares about those things doesn't make one pretentious because they do. If someone enjoys painting, they probably would prefer the proper tools rather than crayon paint from the Dollar Store because it does impact their experience.  The whole incident started because Teddi was already insecure about hosting the women because she felt that she wasn't luxurious enough for them. Even though Dorit's comment wasn't directed at her, she felt offended because she was the one hosting the party. Dorit addressed it because she heard back from someone else that Teddi narrated the incident and she thought that Teddi was telling everyone about the matter and making it seem like she was being rude and malicious about it. Where Dorit faltered is that she was too busy trying to defend herself that wouldn't allow herself to hear why Teddi felt the way she did about the glass incident. I don't think she owed Teddi an apology for it but she does have a habit of talking far more than she listens and in that particular argument, she contributed to prolonging the issue because she wouldn't listen. It would be considered drinking etiquette to know the difference, the same way it would be considered dining etiquette to know what each fork/spoon/knife is for, etc. Does it matter to many? No, including myself, I couldn't care less but Dorit's comments were in defense of herself when she felt like she was being accused of being snobby or malicious in her request. Her point wasn't that she has etiquette and others don't. Her point was that she isn't making this stuff up to be difficult It is a thing that actually exists and it's an etiquette that she follows so of course she noticed whereas others who don't care or follow it didn't.  

[missyb]

44 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

I think Dorit is getting an unfair rep for the whole wine glass incident. She wasn't rude when she made the request to the server and even though she could have easily just left the wine alone in the glass she had, it doesn't mean that she's a snobby bitch either. Ask anyone who takes their recreational beverage choices seriously, the glass does impact the experience and there's a reason why there are such things as a 'champagne glass', 'wine glass', 'beer mug', etc. Just because not everyone cares about those things doesn't make one pretentious because they do. If someone enjoys painting, they probably would prefer the proper tools rather than crayon paint from the Dollar Store because it does impact their experience.  The whole incident started because Teddi was already insecure about hosting the women because she felt that she wasn't luxurious enough for them. Even though Dorit's comment wasn't directed at her, she felt offended because she was the one hosting the party. Dorit addressed it because she heard back from someone else that Teddi narrated the incident and she thought that Teddi was telling everyone about the matter and making it seem like she was being rude and malicious about it. Where Dorit faltered is that she was too busy trying to defend herself that wouldn't allow herself to hear why Teddi felt the way she did about the glass incident. I don't think she owed Teddi an apology for it but she does have a habit of talking far more than she listens and in that particular argument, she contributed to prolonging the issue because she wouldn't listen. It would be considered drinking etiquette to know the difference, the same way it would be considered dining etiquette to know what each fork/spoon/knife is for, etc. Does it matter to many? No, including myself, I couldn't care less but Dorit's comments were in defense of herself when she felt like she was being accused of being snobby or malicious in her request. Her point wasn't that she has etiquette and others don't. Her point was that she isn't making this stuff up to be difficult It is a thing that actually exists and it's an etiquette that she follows so of course she noticed whereas others who don't care or follow it didn't.  

I appreciate your post and what you said is well said, but, Dorit was rude and snobby. When you are a guest, all you say is thank you.   Her point was that she knows proper etiquette and that requires the proper glass. The more important point of etiquette would have been to politely accept what you were given and say thank you.  If someone was pouring when she was receiving her drink ( and I honestly cannot remember if that was the case) she could say "may I please have mine in the other glass?". No need to remind anyone what was correct. Be a good guest and move on.

JMO

Edited March 10, 2018 by missyb

[zoeysmom]

38 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

I think Dorit is getting an unfair rep for the whole wine glass incident. She wasn't rude when she made the request to the server and even though she could have easily just left the wine alone in the glass she had, it doesn't mean that she's a snobby bitch either. Ask anyone who takes their recreational beverage choices seriously, the glass does impact the experience and there's a reason why there are such things as a 'champagne glass', 'wine glass', 'beer mug', etc. Just because not everyone cares about those things doesn't make one pretentious because they do. If someone enjoys painting, they probably would prefer the proper tools rather than crayon paint from the Dollar Store because it does impact their experience.  The whole incident started because Teddi was already insecure about hosting the women because she felt that she wasn't luxurious enough for them. Even though Dorit's comment wasn't directed at her, she felt offended because she was the one hosting the party. Dorit addressed it because she heard back from someone else that Teddi narrated the incident and she thought that Teddi was telling everyone about the matter and making it seem like she was being rude and malicious about it. Where Dorit faltered is that she was too busy trying to defend herself that wouldn't allow herself to hear why Teddi felt the way she did about the glass incident. I don't think she owed Teddi an apology for it but she does have a habit of talking far more than she listens and in that particular argument, she contributed to prolonging the issue because she wouldn't listen. It would be considered drinking etiquette to know the difference, the same way it would be considered dining etiquette to know what each fork/spoon/knife is for, etc. Does it matter to many? No, including myself, I couldn't care less but Dorit's comments were in defense of herself when she felt like she was being accused of being snobby or malicious in her request. Her point wasn't that she has etiquette and others don't. Her point was that she isn't making this stuff up to be difficult It is a thing that actually exists and it's an etiquette that she follows so of course she noticed whereas others who don't care or follow it didn't.  

Yep, it is the old talking behind someone's back and it getting back to them.  In this case it is Dorit's fault instead of the tale carrier.  The week before it was Dorit's fault for talking about Teddi.  LVP and Kyle seem to dodge a lot of responsibility for being tale carriers.  At the beach house it was Dorit's fault for being the tale carrier.  It is never Teddi's fault when she says something to someone outside of the other person's presence.  The idiocy of it all is it is on film.  At some point these women need to stop with the talking behind each other back argument.  

[Silo]

If it were anyone else, I would believe in potential pregnancy complications due to medical issues. But I think Camille is just a vain c*** who didn’t want to eff up get body with pregnancy. So any excuse to not have to carry the babies herself was fine with her lol

Edited March 10, 2018 by Silo

[Kalamityjayne]

8 hours ago, ChitChat said:

 

Kadooz to you for remembering, Kalamityjayne!  I thought it was "holemills," but I couldn't be 100% sure.  Love those Ramona-isms!  

I wasn’t correcting you by the way, I just couldn’t let Ramona get credit for saying something correctly or in a manner that made sense. Her crazy thoughts are my favorite because she’s always so earnest.

[Chit Chat]

17 minutes ago, Kalamityjayne said:

I wasn’t correcting you by the way, I just couldn’t let Ramona get credit for saying something correctly or in a manner that made sense.

Oh, I know!!  :)  I was hoping somebody would come along with the correct Ramona-ism!  She's a nut, but I like her!  Well, maybe not everything she says and does, but she is entertaining.  I can't imagine the RHONYC without her.

[gundysgirl]

On 3/9/2018 at 6:51 PM, ChitChat said:

Kyle was with her when she bought them.  Maybe I'm remembering wrong and she made the comment in her TH about wanting to see the look on Erika's face rather than saying it to Dorit, however, she did nothing to discourage her.   I always thought that she could've nipped it in the bud by simply telling Dorit that it would be best to drop the subject and not to humiliate Erika in that way.  Nobody likes to be reminded of embarrassing moments.  I can laugh and play along over something embarrassing about myself, but I surely don't want it to be thrown in my face at every turn.  One laugh and we're done, please!  Erika didn't deserve the constant ribbing over it, IMO.

Kyle said last year that she told Dorit it wasn't a good idea but we didn't see it. Dorit agreed and said that maybe she should have listened to Kyle. 

[RHJunkie]

2 hours ago, missyb said:

I appreciate your post and what you said is well said, but, Dorit was rude and snobby. When you are a guest, all you say is thank you.   Her point was that she knows proper etiquette and that requires the proper glass. The more important point of etiquette would have been to politely accept what you were given and say thank you.  If someone was pouring when she was receiving her drink ( and I honestly cannot remember if that was the case) she could say "may I please have mine in the other glass?". No need to remind anyone what was correct. Be a good guest and move on.

JMO

I can certainly see how the very action of her making the request would be seen as rude. I certainly would agree that the most polite option would have been to leave it alone and when she goes for seconds, she could then ask the server to pour in the glass of her choice. I'm not trying to defend her behaviour in saying that she did nothing wrong and people are grasping at straws here. There are definitely betters ways to have handled the situation and Dorit chose none of the best options available, however, the incident is now being lumped in as an example of how horrible she is (and I'm not directing this at you, but a general observation about the comments about Dorit) and I think it's a bit overkill given the nature of the incident. I genuinely believe that she had no intention of being rude or pretentious when she asked for a different glass and because she's so used to it, she probably didn't even think of how it would come across when making the request. There's a number of things about her behaviour that I haven't been fond of this season but the glass incident isn't one of my personal grievances with her this season. 

[gundysgirl]

18 hours ago, breezy424 said:

What does Camille's past have to do with anything?

Nothing as far as I can see. Certainly doesn't change the fact that Dorit is a bitch. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

12 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Yeah in the epic text she sent that Rinna read it just said there would be a workout with her trainer/partner which happened, and then if people wanted to hangout on the beach and than beat traffic back to LA. 

I missed all of this so I am not following where a loose day plan of unstructured activity is shutting down production.  Was there more to the text ? I might still have it in my DVR I will look or read the thread. 

[gundysgirl]

7 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I missed all of this so I am not following where a loose day plan of unstructured activity is shutting down production.  Was there more to the text ? I might still have it in my DVR I will look or read the thread. 

No, you didn't miss anything. And no, it's not shutting down production. 

[zoeysmom]

18 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I missed all of this so I am not following where a loose day plan of unstructured activity is shutting down production.  Was there more to the text ? I might still have it in my DVR I will look or read the thread. 

They were going to brunch and biking. Teddi repeated the day's scheduled activities in the morning. So there were structured activities.  Filming was planned and scheduled producers were there, camera crews were there -Teddi threw the whole lot of them out.  That would be shutting down production.  There was no biking or brunch to film.  The other ladies had set aside the day for filming and were sent packing.  If nothing else their time wasn't valued.  This was all because  Teddi felt as if Erika brushed her off as if she was worthless.  I know it isn't a popular opinion but I think Teddi acted like a spoiled brat. Teddi was the host and made her guest Erika feel uncomfortable by saying her behavior was weird.  This is rinse and repeat with these ladies, somebody insults someone and it is on the person for not reacting properly to the insult

If anyone has a better phrase for canceling or cutting short filming please share it with me.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

5 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

They were going to brunch and biking. Teddi repeated the day's scheduled activities in the morning. So there were structured activities.  Filming was planned and scheduled producers were there, camera crews were there -Teddi threw the whole lot of them out.  That would be shutting down production.  There was no biking or brunch to film.  The other ladies had set aside the day for filming and were sent packing.  If nothing else their time wasn't valued.  This was all because  Teddi felt as if Erika brushed her off as if she was worthless.  I know it isn't a popular opinion but I think Teddi acted like a spoiled brat. Teddi was the host and made her guest Erika feel uncomfortable by saying her behavior was weird.  This is rinse and repeat with these ladies, somebody insults someone and it is on the person for not reacting properly to the insult

If anyone has a better phrase for canceling or cutting short filming please share it with me.

Thank you I meant sincerely for clarification, thanks  immensely I seriously fell asleep I am going to rewatch !  :-) 

[grisgris]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

They were going to brunch and biking. Teddi repeated the day's scheduled activities in the morning. So there were structured activities.  Filming was planned and scheduled producers were there, camera crews were there -Teddi threw the whole lot of them out.  That would be shutting down production.  There was no biking or brunch to film.  The other ladies had set aside the day for filming and were sent packing.  If nothing else their time wasn't valued.  This was all because  Teddi felt as if Erika brushed her off as if she was worthless.  I know it isn't a popular opinion but I think Teddi acted like a spoiled brat. Teddi was the host and made her guest Erika feel uncomfortable by saying her behavior was weird.  This is rinse and repeat with these ladies, somebody insults someone and it is on the person for not reacting properly to the insult

If anyone has a better phrase for canceling or cutting short filming please share it with me.

Do you work for Bravo or on the production crew for RHoBH? How are you so informed about the show's production schedules, casting commitments, budget, etc.?  Just curious.  I would think that the whole point of a reality show was to "go with the flow," and anticipate that there could be last-minute changes. Therefore, I would expect that Bravo and the RH producers would be prepared to be fluid.

Giggy has excellent taste in birthday presents! I need to have my cat watch that scene.

[Otherkate]

I worked at a network with a heavy reality show focus for 2 years. During that two years I had to attend weekly (sometimes twice a week) Production meetings. During those meetings, the production teams would report into us (the network) regarding exactly what was going on with each cast, what was going to be happening in the near and far future and update us about any difficulties.  In my experience, the primary concern of everyone involved is not keeping production schedules (because it very often gets blown to smithereens) - the primary concern is developing and catching drama. It is numero uno. Trust me when I say that crew, the production staff, and the network were more likely thrilled that they caught the beginnings of a drama that would carry them through the season and that they caught it without even filming for hours. I highly doubt they would prefer filming a potentially vapid and boring meet up between Dorit and Teddi over the spark of what they could guess would be a coming fire. Schedules get messed up all the time and everyone who does this knows it. The women and men who are cast in these shows are often total hot messes. Things go badly more often than they go well and it's usually the fault of one of the cast members. The production company needs to be able to turn in drama to the network in those updates. The end. 

I hated that job, btw.

I can't stand Dorit, but I felt badly for her and can't imagine doing that to someone who was a guest in my home. I did think Camille's gift was funny and Dorit should have laughed it off but wasn't surprised that she didn't. She likes making other people feel small and feigning innocence,  but can't take it being done to her. She deserved it, but the pile on went too far for my taste. 

[breezy424]

Well, maybe they were planning to go to brunch or go bicycle riding but that doesn't necessarily mean that it was going to be filmed.  And if production did book time at a local restaurant then why didn't the other women go?  They could have easily said let's stop and get something to eat before going home if production did plan it and wanted it to happen.  In a sense if this brunch was planned on the schedule, the other women in a sense shut down the production just as much as Teddi did.  IMO we don't know anything.  Just assumptions unless you're on the production team.

Dorit just didn't tell the bartender about her incorrect stemware,  she also said something to Rinna and if I remember correctly, I thought she said something to LVP.  She also said something in a TH.  She did make a big deal out of it which forced Teddi to react.  At least that's how I saw it.

It seems to me the central root of the drama going on is Dorit. 

[Mr. Miner]

The glass thing happened after Dorit again did not take accountability for being late, and before she quickly declined any of the services Teddi was providing at her party.

Edited March 11, 2018 by Mr. Minor

[rho]

14 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

They were going to brunch and biking. Teddi repeated the day's scheduled activities in the morning. So there were structured activities.  Filming was planned and scheduled producers were there, camera crews were there -Teddi threw the whole lot of them out.  That would be shutting down production.  There was no biking or brunch to film.  The other ladies had set aside the day for filming and were sent packing.  If nothing else their time wasn't valued.  This was all because  Teddi felt as if Erika brushed her off as if she was worthless.  I know it isn't a popular opinion but I think Teddi acted like a spoiled brat. Teddi was the host and made her guest Erika feel uncomfortable by saying her behavior was weird.  This is rinse and repeat with these ladies, somebody insults someone and it is on the person for not reacting properly to the insult

If anyone has a better phrase for canceling or cutting short filming please share it with me.

I can't imagine anyone was upset by this. The women all agreed that it was time to wrap things up and I think Kyle suggested they head home and Teddi said something like that would be best. No one wanted to be there any more than Teddi. And as far as the production crew goes, they all got to beat the traffic back to LA instead of wrapping out at Teddi's place right at rush hour. Plus they accrued a buttload of OT from filming all night at Teddi's sleepover. I'm sure everyone was happy to get off early. 

I work in unscripted TV (not reality) and every day is absolute chaos. Anything less than a 10 hour day is rare so I'm not about to complain if production gets cut short.

Edited March 11, 2018 by rho

[BBHN]

Plus, weren't the women filmed on the way back to BH?

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It seems to me the central root of the drama going on is Dorit. 

This could be the season summary so far.

Edited March 11, 2018 by BBHN

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

OH MY GOD I just rewatched Dorit love bombing/physically assaulting LVP at Camille’s party and this is what she said “ I really hope my love and attention and forcing myself on her is starting to make her realize that I really didn’t mean to do anything to hurt her.”  Dorit sounds like a psychotic ex boyfriend behind bars in San Quentin ! WWWWWWWWTFFFFF!  And when Lisa told her to get off her and she refused THEN played with Lisa’s hair? PSYCHO. 

[Mindthinkr]

16 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

OH MY GOD I just rewatched Dorit love bombing/physically assaulting LVP at Camille’s party and this is what she said “ I really hope my love and attention and forcing myself on her is starting to make her realize that I really didn’t mean to do anything to hurt her.”  Dorit sounds like a psychotic ex boyfriend behind bars in San Quentin ! WWWWWWWWTFFFFF!  And when Lisa told her to get off her and she refused THEN played with Lisa’s hair? PSYCHO. 

Don’t you think that she’d have to be one beer short of a six pack to be married to PK? 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

16 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Don’t you think that she’d have to be one beer short of a six pack to be married to PK? 

Touché! Baaaabyyyy.... Bubbaaaa! Hahaha  

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

My other observation of the rewatch was that 90% of the reason Kyle is friends with LVP is so Kyle can say something in a fake British accent every f***ing WEEK. My #1 pet peeve about Kyle it drives me bananas!!! 

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 hour ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

My other observation of the rewatch was that 90% of the reason Kyle is friends with LVP is so Kyle can say something in a fake British accent every f***ing WEEK. My #1 pet peeve about Kyle it drives me bananas!!! 

She's terribly impressed with her own British accent.  

[ghoulina]

19 hours ago, missyb said:

I appreciate your post and what you said is well said, but, Dorit was rude and snobby. When you are a guest, all you say is thank you.   Her point was that she knows proper etiquette and that requires the proper glass. The more important point of etiquette would have been to politely accept what you were given and say thank you.  If someone was pouring when she was receiving her drink ( and I honestly cannot remember if that was the case) she could say "may I please have mine in the other glass?". No need to remind anyone what was correct. Be a good guest and move on.

JMO

I agree. And it went beyond her asking for the "correct" glass. She kept explaining why. She explained it to Rinna when she arrived. It was like she needed everyone to know what a huge faux pas had happened at Teddi's gathering.

[gingerella]

19 hours ago, Silo said:

If it were anyone else, I would believe in potential pregnancy complications due to medical issues. But I think Camille is just a vain c*** who didn’t want to eff up get body with pregnancy. So any excuse to not have to carry the babies herself was fine with her lol

I wasn't gonna say it, but I was thinking the same exact thing. These bitches are so self-involved and vain that they make a hangnail into SKIN CANCER, OMG!!! And we have to sit through an entire season of bullshit because they make big deals out of nothing just to create storylines. I cant believe anything Camille says because I haven't forgotten what a stupid, entitled, out of control bitch she was when she was on the show and still married to Kelsey Grammar. She acted like her shit didn't stink and she could get away with bullying any and everyone. She might be more fun to watch now that she's been knocked down several pegs and acts a titch more humble, but yeah, I don't believe any of this shit about diverticulitis being the reason she didn't carry her own kids.

[BBHN]

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She's terribly impressed with her own British accent.  

Still better than Dorit's.

Meh. I have no reason to doubt Camille and her reasons for using  a surrogate.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

1 hour ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

She's terribly impressed with her own British accent.  

She is . Annoying.   Nails on a chalkboard . Ugggh. 

[ShawnaLanne]

1 hour ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

She's terribly impressed with her own British accent.  

It's still better than her hair flip dancing. 

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 minute ago, ShawnaLanne said:

It's still better than her hair flip dancing. 

They're equally cringe worthy.

[Long Spot]

18 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

It's still better than her hair flip dancing. 

May I toss in a side of "doing the splits when least appropriate"?  :-)

Edited March 11, 2018 by Long Spot

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

She's terribly impressed with her own British accent.  

What I find bothersome is that Lisa has told her, several times, that she doesn't like her mocking her accent, that she finds it insulting but Kyle keeps doing it, over and over again! If this were reversed and Lisa mocked Kyle's speech/accent, Kyle would be furious and tell Lisa she was, once again, being a "bad friend".

[princelina]

17 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Dorit just didn't tell the bartender about her incorrect stemware,  she also said something to Rinna and if I remember correctly, I thought she said something to LVP.  She also said something in a TH.  She did make a big deal out of it which forced Teddi to react.  At least that's how I saw it.

 

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I agree. And it went beyond her asking for the "correct" glass. She kept explaining why. She explained it to Rinna when she arrived. It was like she needed everyone to know what a huge faux pas had happened at Teddi's gathering.

This.  Everyone had to know that Teddi made a huge faux pas AND that Dorit was aware enough to catch it.  She also made some sort of fuss about serving the wine Teddi brought to dinner to her house because she didn't have the right glasses for it.  As she was serving off Hermes china on her patio.

And to be honest, I don't really hate Dorit (or PK) and I'm not that fond of Teddi.  In fact, I'd like Teddi more if she could be honest about being intimidated by them, rather than that she's so "above" such petty nonsense. But she prefers to act like she's too cool to care, and Dorit has a sly manner about her that bugs. That's all.

[zoeysmom]

17 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

The glass thing happened after Dorit again did not take accountability for being late, and before she quickly declined any of the services Teddi was providing at her party.

First off-Dorit is not accountable to Teddi nor is Teddi accountable to Dorit.  This was something arranged by production-Teddi finally got an inkling that perhaps "there was a miscommunication" as to the start time.  Teddi was angry Dorit had talked to Kyle, and Teddi had to defend herself, and told Dorit next time come to her.  Dorit agreed.

There is a certain level of idiocy that just surrounds crybaby Teddi.  Teddi is the one who acknowledged Dorit's apology on the phone and advised her she would not be waiting.  On what planet does crybaby Teddi think she has the right to dictate what Kyle and Dorit talk about?  Worse Teddi out and out  lied about what Kyle told her about Dorit and Kyle's conversation.  Teddi clearly said twenty minutes late -not six minutes late.   

Teddi had this sit down as a mandatory meeting for Dorit to attend her lame spa day-which virtually no one participated in to the degree Teddi had hoped.   At the conclusion of the meeting Dorit tells Teddi she is going to get a new glass.  Dorit is standing with Teddi and Rinna when the waiter approaches a Dorit asks for a wine glass.  Rinna said she felt the same way-in the moment and Teddi said it was an oversight.  Should be end of story bit oh no-Teddi did exactly what she told Dorit she should not do and went to LVP to complain about Dorit and the glass situation.  If Teddi was so bothered by the glass situation why didn't she address it with Dorit in the moment or at the end of the party or the following day?  That is what she asked Dorit to promise to do.

Another absurdity is singling out Dorit for not availing herself to a street laser facial and the spa services.  It is like getting mad at someone for not eating the bean dip or dessert.  

[walnutqueen]

5 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

My other observation of the rewatch was that 90% of the reason Kyle is friends with LVP is so Kyle can say something in a fake British accent every f***ing WEEK. My #1 pet peeve about Kyle it drives me bananas!!! 

 

2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

What I find bothersome is that Lisa has told her, several times, that she doesn't like her mocking her accent, that she finds it insulting but Kyle keeps doing it, over and over again! If this were reversed and Lisa mocked Kyle's speech/accent, Kyle would be furious and tell Lisa she was, once again, being a "bad friend".

Yet the ONE time LVP mimics Kyle, it is an abomination.  Kyle needs to realize she will NEVER approximate an LVP or English accent; while everyone with half a talent can mimic her in two seconds flat.

Stay in your lane, Kyle.  It's a good one.

[DeeplyShallow]

56 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

 

Yet the ONE time LVP mimics Kyle, it is an abomination.  Kyle needs to realize she will NEVER approximate an LVP or English accent; while everyone with half a talent can mimic her in two seconds flat.

Stay in your lane, Kyle.  It's a good one.

Kyle’s English accent is atrocious. It never sounds like one, it always comes out like a throaty whine

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

First off-Dorit is not accountable to Teddi nor is Teddi accountable to Dorit.  This was something arranged by production-Teddi finally got an inkling that perhaps "there was a miscommunication" as to the start time.  Teddi was angry Dorit had talked to Kyle, and Teddi had to defend herself, and told Dorit next time come to her.  Dorit agreed.

There is a certain level of idiocy that just surrounds crybaby Teddi.  Teddi is the one who acknowledged Dorit's apology on the phone and advised her she would not be waiting.  On what planet does crybaby Teddi think she has the right to dictate what Kyle and Dorit talk about?  Worse Teddi out and out  lied about what Kyle told her about Dorit and Kyle's conversation.  Teddi clearly said twenty minutes late -not six minutes late.   

Teddi had this sit down as a mandatory meeting for Dorit to attend her lame spa day-which virtually no one participated in to the degree Teddi had hoped.   At the conclusion of the meeting Dorit tells Teddi she is going to get a new glass.  Dorit is standing with Teddi and Rinna when the waiter approaches a Dorit asks for a wine glass.  Rinna said she felt the same way-in the moment and Teddi said it was an oversight.  Should be end of story bit oh no-Teddi did exactly what she told Dorit she should not do and went to LVP to complain about Dorit and the glass situation.  If Teddi was so bothered by the glass situation why didn't she address it with Dorit in the moment or at the end of the party or the following day?  That is what she asked Dorit to promise to do.

Another absurdity is singling out Dorit for not availing herself to a street laser facial and the spa services.  It is like getting mad at someone for not eating the bean dip or dessert.  

IMO, both Teddi and Dorit are refusing to hear each other, they are both doing the same dang thing. The big difference between them is that Dorit is doing this diarrhea of the mouth with all of them, she has spread gossip about everyone other than Erika so far. Teddi is misquoting others which is almost as bad. LOL At this point, they are both annoying IMO.

[zoeysmom]

5 hours ago, WireWrap said:

What I find bothersome is that Lisa has told her, several times, that she doesn't like her mocking her accent, that she finds it insulting but Kyle keeps doing it, over and over again! If this were reversed and Lisa mocked Kyle's speech/accent, Kyle would be furious and tell Lisa she was, once again, being a "bad friend".

Just to hammer your point home, somebody tweeted Kyle about "imitating" LVP after she asked her not to and Kyle's comment was "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".  Not really.  Kyle has pretty much been poking at LVP all year and I am not sure why.  LVP has been pretty inoffensive.  She certainly didn't owe Kyle an apology for leaving after Kyle accused her of plotting and tried to set her up as "against Teddi".  I think Kyle wants everyone to like her and knows she can guilt trip LVP into always being her bestie.

[princelina]

3 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

 

Yet the ONE time LVP mimics Kyle, it is an abomination.  Kyle needs to realize she will NEVER approximate an LVP or English accent; while everyone with half a talent can mimic her in two seconds flat.

Stay in your lane, Kyle.  It's a good one.

Don't any of you have friends who love to talk in an English accent the minute they get a drink in them?  I have two and they are very annoying :). But we don't have any English-accented friends to take offense.  I actually thought it was funny that when LVP mimicked Kyle, Kyle just said "I don't talk that way" and went on with her day.  If more of them could react that way, they'd be a lot happier!  But then I guess we wouldn't have a show :)

Edited March 12, 2018 by princelina

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

IMO, both Teddi and Dorit are refusing to hear each other, they are both doing the same dang thing. The big difference between them is that Dorit is doing this diarrhea of the mouth with all of them, she has spread gossip about everyone other than Erika so far. Teddi is misquoting others which is almost as bad. LOL At this point, they are both annoying IMO.

Here is the way I see it Dorit going to LVP and saying, "hey I told the others there are times I think you are jealous of the connection Kyle and I share."  Which Dorit did and then started jumping up and down.   I think LVP set Dorit straight. All would have been well-a few little barbs maybe.  When Kyle heard the story from Camille and Teddi should could have defused instead of accelerating the situation.  Maybe even said-"oh Camille and Teddi you were at the dinner where I was teasing LVP about the same thing."  Kyle not only didn't diffuse it but chose to not only exacerbate the original Dorit comment but add a couple of her own words in there.  Kyle likes the word "insecure".  Just ask Camille.  ;-).  What Kyle did next served no one but her.  Kyle even said she was good with Erika and how dare Dorit repeat gossip.  Well what exactly is Kyle doing?  She is running back to LVP and gossiping about Dorit.  The only ones not running around gossiping are Erika and LVP.  Kyle seemed far more worried about causing a rift with Erika than either Dorit or LVP's feelings. 

Teddi has tried to to tell Dorit what she told Kyle but Kyle isn't stepping up to the plate and admit she embellished Teddi and Camille's comments about what was said that night at the dinner Kyle and LVP didn't attend. Kyle is avoiding responsibility because she was still mad at Dorit for telling Erika about Kyle and the others questioning Erika's behavior and motives the night at Teddi's house.   Kyle diffusing her misdeeds and leaving Dorit and Teddi twisting in the wind while she puts on some master performances for having LVP's back and extracting an unnecessary apology out of LVP.

This week we have LVP having a bit of a go at Dorit. Erika and Kyle are the ones to condemn LVP when at anytime Kyle could have straightened things out.  Erika attempted to assist Dorit with her "redirect" but forces intervened and made it all about themselves instead of giving LVP the story of what happened that night without all the Kyle drama.  Kyle needs to stop trying to be the popular one and own up to what she created.  

[WireWrap]

11 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Here is the way I see it Dorit going to LVP and saying, "hey I told the others there are times I think you are jealous of the connection Kyle and I share."  Which Dorit did and then started jumping up and down.   I think LVP set Dorit straight. All would have been well-a few little barbs maybe.  When Kyle heard the story from Camille and Teddi should could have defused instead of accelerating the situation.  Maybe even said-"oh Camille and Teddi you were at the dinner where I was teasing LVP about the same thing."  Kyle not only didn't diffuse it but chose to not only exacerbate the original Dorit comment but add a couple of her own words in there.  Kyle likes the word "insecure".  Just ask Camille.  ;-).  What Kyle did next served no one but her.  Kyle even said she was good with Erika and how dare Dorit repeat gossip.  Well what exactly is Kyle doing?  She is running back to LVP and gossiping about Dorit.  The only ones not running around gossiping are Erika and LVP.  Kyle seemed far more worried about causing a rift with Erika than either Dorit or LVP's feelings. 

Teddi has tried to to tell Dorit what she told Kyle but Kyle isn't stepping up to the plate and admit she embellished Teddi and Camille's comments about what was said that night at the dinner Kyle and LVP didn't attend. Kyle is avoiding responsibility because she was still mad at Dorit for telling Erika about Kyle and the others questioning Erika's behavior and motives the night at Teddi's house.   Kyle diffusing her misdeeds and leaving Dorit and Teddi twisting in the wind while she puts on some master performances for having LVP's back and extracting an unnecessary apology out of LVP.

This week we have LVP having a bit of a go at Dorit. Erika and Kyle are the ones to condemn LVP when at anytime Kyle could have straightened things out.  Erika attempted to assist Dorit with her "redirect" but forces intervened and made it all about themselves instead of giving LVP the story of what happened that night without all the Kyle drama.  Kyle needs to stop trying to be the popular one and own up to what she created.  

I do agree that if you trace the "jelly" fight back, you will find Kyle at the center of it, more so than Dorit. I suspect that Kyle dislikes that Dorit and Erika are on good terms this season, she, Kyle, likes to be the center of all the HWs and she will do what she can to thwart anyone moving into that slot, be it Lisa or Erika. So, if either of them, Lisa/Erika, are getting along with everyone, she will try to get 1 of the other HWs upset at them or them upset at that HW. Right now, she is hoping that both Lisa and Erika put Dorit on the outside, so that only she gets along with all of them. Kyle needs to be THE center, or as you say, THE most popular. It has to drive her crazy that she isn't 1 of the top fan favorite HWs on this show, the top 2 are Lisa and Erika IMO. 

[zoeysmom]

3 hours ago, WireWrap said:

I do agree that if you trace the "jelly" fight back, you will find Kyle at the center of it, more so than Dorit. I suspect that Kyle dislikes that Dorit and Erika are on good terms this season, she, Kyle, likes to be the center of all the HWs and she will do what she can to thwart anyone moving into that slot, be it Lisa or Erika. So, if either of them, Lisa/Erika, are getting along with everyone, she will try to get 1 of the other HWs upset at them or them upset at that HW. Right now, she is hoping that both Lisa and Erika put Dorit on the outside, so that only she gets along with all of them. Kyle needs to be THE center, or as you say, THE most popular. It has to drive her crazy that she isn't 1 of the top fan favorite HWs on this show, the top 2 are Lisa and Erika IMO. 

What I have disliked about Kyle this year is the crying.  These women have lived through some pretty horrendous gossip and affronts and nothing Dorit has said is all that serious.  (I am excluding the stupid C comment because that had been addressed and resolved.)  I don't think Erika is oblivious to what is going on around her, I just think she wants the air cleared. 

I did think LVP blew it this week to a certain extent and she will have to answer her critics for the little impromptu roast of Dorit.  For all those at the table cheering her on she had her detractors.  Her good bestie of the best friend Kyle.  For some reason Kyle can rant and curse at Dorit and that is okay and scream at LVP she is kissing Dorit's ass but LVP getting off a few snarky comments is not okay in Kyle's book.  

[Chit Chat]

8 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Kyle diffusing her misdeeds and leaving Dorit and Teddi twisting in the wind while she puts on some master performances for having LVP's back and extracting an unnecessary apology out of LVP.

Kyle always rides the fence on issues and plays both sides.  That has bugged me for years with her!

 

4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

What I have disliked about Kyle this year is the crying.

Amen!  I always hate it when women turn on the waterworks unnecessarily in order to get attention or to get their way.  

[hoodooznoodooz]

Erika looked a little like Dorinda in that photo with her son. Usually I think she looks like Drew Barrymore in the old photos.

[missyb]

I have always had a feeling that Kyle is responding more to things that happen off camera. Her need for LVP to "admit and tell the truth" just seemed so out of place in that situation that it led me to believe it is based on something else. Maybe some confession LVP made off camera and will not say on camera. Kyle yelling at her to just admit it and just tell the truth and insisting that whatever LVP was saying was not her real feelings just does not seem reasonable.  I feel it must be something else and out of loyalty, Kyle will not say, She just keeps badgering LVP to say it.

LVP and Dorit have a fairly new relationship and it is tied to her marriage to PK.  I think Lisa does like Kyle but she barely knows her.  It is complicated for LVP because of PK. And , she knew the other wife. I think Lisa has a wait and see attitude.  You may not be around as long as you think.

Edited March 12, 2018 by missyb

[ghoulina]

22 hours ago, WireWrap said:

What I find bothersome is that Lisa has told her, several times, that she doesn't like her mocking her accent, that she finds it insulting but Kyle keeps doing it, over and over again! If this were reversed and Lisa mocked Kyle's speech/accent, Kyle would be furious and tell Lisa she was, once again, being a "bad friend".

I don't think Kyle means anything by it. When I'm relaying to someone something my husband said, I make my voice deeper. When I'm relaying something one of my sisters said, I do a falsetto. I think it's very common to try and mimic a voice, in order to differentiate who said what, when relaying a conversation.