S07.E12: Something Blue

[WhosThatGirl]

I mean.. is it bad that I’m going to miss Farrah? I know she’s terrible and awful but I kind of enjoy her scenes. At least she’s not pretending to be an image of herself that she isn’t. Anyways..

These episodes keep making me more and more uncomfortable. The scenes with Butch were uncomfortable and awful and the scenes at Ryan and Mack’s wedding were uncomfortable- seriously, seemed like everyone who is a main player in those stories was WASTED, the bride and the groom, Maci and Taylor, Jen and Larry! And everything wit Amber makes me mad, especially given the being Gary special that aired before and Gary had to call Amber so Amber could wish Leah a happy birthday. The hell was that?

[FairyDusted]

I missed that somehow! ETA: burning ovaries

Edited February 20, 2018 by FairyDusted

[GreatKazu]

15 minutes ago, druzy said:

I was too embarrassed to ask. I thought maybe it's a common procedure. Upon further thought, maybe it's just a Maci storyline.

Maci is sticking with that PCOS storyline of hers. 

[FairyDusted]

I had many surgeries for endometrosis before my total take out and did they mean cauterize somehow? I'll go back and catch it in the AM

[GreatKazu]

7 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

I had many surgeries for endometrosis before my total take out and did they mean cauterize somehow? I'll go back and catch it in the AM

I went through the same thing. 

I Googled "burn ovaries" and some stuff about PCOS came up. 

[FairyDusted]

Thank you @GreatKazu AKA AMF! Goodnight ALL!

[mamadrama]

59 minutes ago, druzy said:

I've been waiting for a good Groupon.

Girl, you know the rules! You find a good deal for good vag maintenance, you share it with your buddies on here. (OT, but I fell down a rabbit hole-no pun intended-the other day after seeing a Reddit question asking what's the biggest snake oil of the 21st century. LOTS of things on Gwenyth's GOOP site. Jade eggs for your vagina, anyone?) And now, back to our regularly scheduled program...

Amber was a total weenie for trying to upstage Leah's birthday with her nobody-cares-announcement. And yeah, if she was 17 weeks in November then, uh, that baby was conceived on something like the first date. 

[GreatKazu]

7 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

Thank you @GreatKazu AKA AMF! Goodnight ALL!

Have a good night's sleep! :-) 

Just now, mamadrama said:

Girl, you know the rules! You find a good deal for good vag maintenance, you share it with your buddies on here. (OT, but I fell down a rabbit hole-no pun intended-the other day after seeing a Reddit question asking what's the biggest snake oil of the 21st century. LOTS of things on Gwenyth's GOOP site. Jade eggs for your vagina, anyone?) And now, back to our regularly scheduled program...

 

lol

[LotusFlower]

I didn’t think a wedding could be worse than Ryan and Mackenzie’s first one, but then there was wedding #2.  Wow,

[WhosThatGirl]

11 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

I didn’t think a wedding could be worse than Ryan and Mackenzie’s first one, but then there was wedding #2.  Wow,

Seriously. Everyone seemed drunk. And so awkward. 

[kimchibucatini]

So much going on this episode, but I can't get over this ridiculous wedding! I knew it was going to be good when MTV editors/trolls teased it with the wailing organ before commercial break. Where TF to begin; Rhiiiine smacking his mouth on chew during the nuptials, Mack's nuclear spray tan? 

What was up with him grilling her about $ the entire reception? As he's demanding to know where this $ went, you can see him frantically trying to figure out how he's going to pay his dealer. 

I've never seen a couple with less chemistry. I can't for the life of me figure out what's in it for them -- the Teen Mom salary surely can't be the only driver behind this train wreck of a marriage.

Edited February 20, 2018 by kimchiarancini

[LotusFlower]

4 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Seriously. Everyone seemed drunk. And so awkward. 

Yup.  Not a single person there seemed to be in a celebratory mood or happy for the couple.  Including the couple.

And if you’re arguing about money on your wedding day, this marriage isn’t lasting long.

And what was up with the minister or officiant who wouldn’t say they could kiss?  How weird was that?

[mamadrama]

The whole ceremony was weird. There was Jen walking down the aisle with a smirk, Ryan drunk with a sweaty ass and chomping like a cow, Mac with her Pinterest-friendly vows, pews not even half full, and a sanctuary that was barely decorated. 

Edited February 20, 2018 by mamadrama

[LotusFlower]

So the previews show one of the producers telling Farrah that she’ll be fired if she continues her work in porn, but I think she should be fired for how she talked to the producer in tonight’s episode.  Which I’m sure was par for the course with her and the production crew.  It’s just not ok to treat people like that.  Especially people you work for.  And yes, Farrah - you work for MTV, not the other way around.  Diva witch.

[mamadrama]

2 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

So the previews show one of the producers telling Farrah that she’ll be fired if she continues her work in porn, but I think she should be fired for how she talked to the producer in tonight’s episode.  Which I’m sure was par for the course with her and the production crew.  It’s just not ok to treat people like that.  Especially people you work for.  And yes, Farrah - you work for MTV, not the other way around.  Diva witch.

I just watched that scene where she went off on Kirsten (Kristen?) and I couldn't help but snicker. On the one hand, that's a really shitty way to talk to people and you really shouldn't speak to people you work with that way. If I were K, I probably would've burst into tears. On the other hand...man, I wish I had Farrah's balls. I would NEVER say things like that to someone. I would think them, but I'd never say them. I kinda wish I could. 

[eskimo]

Just a couple of thoughts before I read everyone's posts. 

Ryan is drunk, has no vows, and has a wad of chew in his lip.  They walk out of the church arguing, and spend the first dance discussing money.  You're a lucky woman, Mac.  No amount of money is worth this.

There's the old Farrah.  It was production that kept Debz waiting.  Mmmmkay.

[Racj82]

4 hours ago, Liamsmom617 said:

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I actually feel slightly sorry for Mackenzie. Ryan can’t even fake a little bit of charm on their fucking wedding day (OK, their SECOND wedding day..).

I sincerely don't. Everyone including her can see Ryan is a mess and she's too busy riding the gravy train to be logical. So fuck it. Why would I care? She deserves him.

[Mothra]

3 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

How is she a whore? She's had fewer boyfriends than most of the others.

You can be a whore without men.  I watched a show in which she fisted herself in the back seat of a limo.  That'll stretch that vaginal wall more than any dick can.

[GreatKazu]

24 minutes ago, Mothra said:

You can be a whore without men.  I watched a show in which she fisted herself in the back seat of a limo.  That'll stretch that vaginal wall more than any dick can.

What does fisting one's self have to do with being a whore? 

Vaginal walls will stretch. It is why females are able to give birth.

Amber did not visit her OB/GYN. She went to Castleton 4D Ultrasound. It looked like one of those places one goes to just to get ultrasound imaging done. 

ETA:www.castletonultrasound.com

Edited February 20, 2018 by GreatKazu

[mamadrama]

42 minutes ago, Mothra said:

You can be a whore without men.  I watched a show in which she fisted herself in the back seat of a limo.  That'll stretch that vaginal wall more than any dick can.

Oh man, if masturbation makes us whores then I'm in trouble...

[GreatKazu]

Just now, mamadrama said:

Oh man, if masturbation makes us whores then I'm in trouble...

Welcome to the whore club!

[CofCinci]

3 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

So the previews show one of the producers telling Farrah that she’ll be fired if she continues her work in porn, but I think she should be fired for how she talked to the producer in tonight’s episode.  Which I’m sure was par for the course with her and the production crew.  It’s just not ok to treat people like that.  Especially people you work for.  And yes, Farrah - you work for MTV, not the other way around.  Diva witch.

Farrah was very close to her long-time producer Heather. Heather was fired because she outed Matt’s cheating.  Farrah doesn’t like the new producers and doesn’t trust them. I can’t blame her.

So now you’re a whore if you masturbate?  Seriously? Saint Roxanne, I can’t even right now.  

Edited February 20, 2018 by CofCinci

[SuzWhat]

8 hours ago, druzy said:

Ryan is chewing gum at the altar!

Why is Taylor's friend/barber at the church?

 

Dude, I think it is chewing tobacco.  I saw him pinch it in his cheek earlier. Gross. Also, I kinda feel sorry for Mack.  Sheez. What an a-hole he is.  

 

The shade, with the scene of M & T drinking in the car on the ride over.  I can’t even. 

Why did Kristina call Gary “David” when talking to him at the end?  

Edited February 20, 2018 by SuzWhat

[BlancheDevoreaux]

8 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

How is she a whore? She's had fewer boyfriends than most of the others.

If we want to get technical, she does get paid to have sex which is the definition of a whore...

[radishcake]

Guys watch it with talking about other posters. This is a board to talk about the SHOW. Time outs will be given. 

[AmyFarrahFowler]

10 hours ago, druzy said:

Scene:

Maci and Taylor chug beers in the car on the way to Ryan's do over wedding.

Voice over:

Maci: We are on our way to Ryan's wedding and hopefully everything goes smoothly. 

Isn't that illegal in her state? Maci was a sloppy mess at that sad little reception.

9 hours ago, druzy said:

Ryan is f***ed up!

Why does he keep asking about money? Is he meeting his connection? You can't always get what you want, Ryan. (yes showing my age)

[snarts]

That was the saddest wedding I've ever seen, not to mention the fact that they were a;ready married!  I can understand wanting to have a reception/party but to go through the motions with the church and cake and all the rest of hoopla seemed ridiculous.  Ryan only cared about partying and his money.  While Mackenzie only wanted to be on camera and have pretty pictures.  

Jen & Larry got drunk and pined for the daughter-in-law they truly wanted.  What a shit show.

I'm sorry, in no way should Farrah be fired for yelling at one of producers.  Others have done so much worse and they're still around on the payroll.  It's too late to fire her for her porn career.  I hope she sues their asses and wins big.  

[ghoulina]

9 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

 

Also, why on earth would Amber think that Leah's birthday party is an appropriate venue to announce the sex of the baby? She's a narcissist. That's why, of course.  But BE BETTER Amber!

Right?  It's the kid's party! She already ruined the pumpkin patch with baby news, now this? Can't Leah have one moment that's just about her? 

I guess that would require Amber spending more than 5 days a year with her daughter. ....

8 hours ago, Emkat said:

Maci appeared to be stifling laughter during Mack's dumb vows. What a shitshow.

Maci smiled more during that wedding than her entire 10 years on MTV. I'm not sure if it's because she was highly buzzed or because that charade of a wedding was so snark worthy. Probably both. 

[ghoulina]

7 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

I didn’t think a wedding could be worse than Ryan and Mackenzie’s first one, but then there was wedding #2.  Wow,

At least the first one had that fun Dee Snider look alike minister. 

Ryan is clearly replacing heroin with alcohol in settings where it's not appropriate to shoot up. 

[MissMel]

And if ever there were a time for Rev.Dee to appear at a second wedding-This was it!

[FlowerofCarnage]

I bet Mac had a fit watching last night's episode. Maci and Taylor looked like they had a nice time at the wedding. No sour looks from Maci watching her true love marry another; Jenn and Maci embracing and making sure there is no bad blood between them; Taylor looking completely un bothered. Meanwhile, MacKenzie had to deal  Ryan making up his vows on the fly; drinking himself under the table; being pressured by Ryan to not spend all of his drug money and to top it all off,   Ryan dancing with her like he was some awkward 12 year-old at his first  middle school dance.

Edited February 20, 2018 by FlowerofCarnage

[Mr. Miner]

5 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Amber did not visit her OB/GYN. She went to Castleton 4D Ultrasound. It looked like one of those places one goes to just to get ultrasound imaging done.

Shouldn't she be going to veterinarian that specializes in pigs?

[CofCinci]

This is why Farrah does not like her current producers. Dude’s headset wasn’t even plugged in while he was “calling” for the late Farrah.  Another producer outed him.

[3outta5]

"Lieing" ?!? Ye gods. Yes, they are the idiots, Farrah

[Unconfused]

Amber just had to make the birthday party all about her with the gender reveal. Why not make it a special moment to share just between her and Leah?

oh and the Maci/Jenn drunk girl lovefest cracked me up. “I luuv you more!” “Nooo I luuv YOU more!”

[CofCinci]

5 minutes ago, Unconfused said:

 

oh and the Maci/Jenn drunk girl lovefest cracked me up. “I luuv you more!” “Nooo I luuv YOU more!”

You know Mackenzie watched the episode yesterday and was upset over that scene. 

[A-Lo]

I was very impressed by Gary and Kristina's conversation about how much Leah has gone through with Amber and the effects her relationships have had on her.  Their insight on how it was a lot for her to lose her "buddy" Matt, who clearly did a lot of things with her, followed by the insta-relationship with Bigfoot and now a new baby thrown into the mix was very refreshing.  Seriously...how long was it before Matt moved out and nuMatt moved in?  It doesn't seem to faze Amber at all but a little girl would need time to process all of that.  Also, there is zero affection shown between Amber and nuMatt.  It doesn't even seem like they're friends!

[GreatKazu]

3 hours ago, MissMel said:

And if ever there were a time for Rev.Dee to appear at a second wedding-This was it!

Jenelle's officiant/security guard should have been there.

Edited February 20, 2018 by GreatKazu

[ghoulina]

32 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

You know Mackenzie watched the episode yesterday and was upset over that scene. 

I think that's why I loved it so much. 

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

This is why Farrah does not like her current producers. Dude’s headset wasn’t even plugged in while he was “calling” for the late Farrah.  Another producer outed him.

I'm not surprised. The way they were smiling after Farrah drove off, and said "we're done" seemed shady to me. 

[CaliforniaLove]

I only half watched while getting ready for work this morning, but when Larry was giving his best man speech & told Ryan that he married his best friend, I think Ryan was confused & thought he might have actually married his best friend/OAR stealing partner Big Bubba. 

Isn't cake cutting usually something that is announced & that at least some people at the wedding pay attention to? I've never seen a bride & groom casually stroll over to the wedding cake & start cutting it as if they're cutting a slice of lasagna for dinner. Birthday parties are more formal than that when it comes to the cake!

NuMatt is so off. It's almost like you can see him consciously trying to express normal human reactions to things. Creeper. 

[bethster2000]

On 2/16/2018 at 10:11 AM, GreatKazu said:

Farrah gets vaginal rejuvenation. Looking at her mouth, it appears the doctor did the work on the wrong lips. 

 

Comment of the century LOL LOL LOL LOL

[CaughtOnTape]

Let's get something straight here....Farrah is not assertive.  Assertive does not mean you can say the shitty things you're thinking to people without guilt.  Assertive means you don't allow people to sway you from your opinions or feelings.  Farrah is just a straight up nasty bitch.  I don't care if it was my job to produce the show, there is NO WAY I would ever allow someone to speak to me like that.  I don't care if someone's headset wasn't plugged in.  There is a big difference between "Hey Kristen, next time there's a problem, can you just let me know?  I was distracted today and wasn't sure what was going on.  And I don't want my mom sitting in a car for 30 minutes waiting for me." and "Hey Kristen, you fucking bitch who hates me, can you pull your head out of your ass and do your goddamn job?"  Even if that's what you're thinking, you'll get a lot more of a reaction with the first rather than the last.  Farrah's attitude is not something to aspire to.

And I'm scared for Amber's kid.  She is selfish and so not interested in having another kid.  Her boyfriend of the moment looks like he's going to shit his pants.  This will not turn out well.

[GreatKazu]

6 hours ago, SuzWhat said:

Dude, I think it is chewing tobacco.  I saw him pinch it in his cheek earlier. Gross. Also, I kinda feel sorry for Mack.  Sheez. What an a-hole he is.  

 

The shade, with the scene of M & T drinking in the car on the ride over.  I can’t even. 

 

It was chewing tobacco. He placed the chew on his bottom teeth between his lip and gumline. He looked just like Cory. Except Cory isn't a drug addict. 

Maci and Taylor's drinking *face palm* 

[SuzWhat]

When Rhine's (love that) groomsmen were trying to convince him to write his vows, one of them says to Rhine "Like, I love you..." meaning it as a jumping off point to start his vows.   Rhine, who was TOTALLY present and not at all high, replies "I love you too".     Dead.  

I'm kind of relieved that Tyler did not have to pay for Butch's rehab.   I hope Butch doesn't fuck it up.   I am sad to say that Butch also looked a little relieved when he found out.   I think he would put more effort into it if Tyler did pay.    Which is gross. 

Edited February 20, 2018 by SuzWhat

[A-Lo]

Mac looked like an Oompa Loompa at her wedding.  I wonder what that dress looked like after she took it off?

[Mothra]

1 hour ago, Unconfused said:

Amber just had to make the birthday party all about her with the gender reveal. Why not make it a special moment to share just between her and Leah?

oh and the Maci/Jenn drunk girl lovefest cracked me up. “I luuv you more!” “Nooo I luuv YOU more!”

I'll go a step further and ask why it was important so early to tell Leah the sex of the baby at all, and particularly at Leah's birthday party.  I think Christina said that Leah wanted a baby brother, but Leah is nine years old.   Amber--who has a magnificent track record as a mother--is excited to know the baby's sex; why should it matter to anybody else (well, I guess the father has an interest, but he didn't want to know).  So it's Amber Amber Amber, and Leah obligingly performs the "so excited and happy face" she's been trained to exhibit--I swear, one of the things about many of these mothers that drives me totally up the wall is the way they push their kids (Chelsea, I'm looking at you) to express joy over something that the kid may have a mild interest in, whether it's a pregnancy or a wedding.  "Are you excited??  Are you excited???" and since these kids are smart, they soon learn to say yes just to calm mom down.  The payoff for mom is that she can feel she's doing something *good* for her child--"did you see how excited she was???"

[A-Lo]

49 minutes ago, CaughtOnTape said:

Let's get something straight here....Farrah is not assertive.  Assertive does not mean you can say the shitty things you're thinking to people without guilt.  Assertive means you don't allow people to sway you from your opinions or feelings.  Farrah is just a straight up nasty bitch.  I don't care if it was my job to produce the show, there is NO WAY I would ever allow someone to speak to me like that.  I don't care if someone's headset wasn't plugged in.  There is a big difference between "Hey Kristen, next time there's a problem, can you just let me know?  I was distracted today and wasn't sure what was going on.  And I don't want my mom sitting in a car for 30 minutes waiting for me." and "Hey Kristen, you fucking bitch who hates me, can you pull your head out of your ass and do your goddamn job?"  Even if that's what you're thinking, you'll get a lot more of a reaction with the first rather than the last.  Farrah's attitude is not something to aspire to.

And I'm scared for Amber's kid.  She is selfish and so not interested in having another kid.  Her boyfriend of the moment looks like he's going to shit his pants.  This will not turn out well.

I agree...Farrah's communication style is much more aggressive than assertive.  And to think she's modeling that for little Mowgli who sees only an aggressive mother and very passive grandparents who will never challenge that mother for fear of pissing her off and being on the receiving side of the aggression.

[RockClimb]

Whoa, that wedding. What a total shit show! I usually feel acute 2nd hand embarrassent when watching stuff like this, but Ryan and Mac are both such complete and total jerks that I laughed through the whole thing. I think my favorite was when Jen told Ryan it was time for the first dance and he started following her...not realizing that he was expected to dance with his wife. Ha! 

Also, when one of his groomsman was trying to help him think of vows, the groomsman is like "Tell her 'I'll always be there for you.'" and Ryan says something like "I can't commit to that" or something equally awful and shitty. 

Drunk Maci & Jen embracing and telling each other they love each other while Ryan and Mac cut the cake, alone, facing the wall. 

Ryan haranguing Mac about money and telling her she's not being very fun less than 5 minutes after they say their vows.

In the middle of Larry's speech about best friends, the camera pans to Ryan and Mac, who aren't even sitting at the same table. 

HA. Hilarious and fitting, all of it!

[CofCinci]

17 minutes ago, A-Lo said:

Mac looked like an Oompa Loompa at her wedding.  I wonder what that dress looked like after she took it off?

You think the dress came off that night?   Hahahah. 

[GreatKazu]

Quote

Amber just had to make the birthday party all about her with the gender reveal. Why not make it a special moment to share just between her and Leah?

It makes sense now. Amber knew the party was coming up. She knew that would be her moment to announce it to her BewBewWho AND on camera. That is why Amber was in a hurry to find out the sex of the baby. She wasn't going to be getting an ultrasound done with her own doctor anytime soon so, she had to go to those strip mall ultrasounds places to find out the sex of the baby before the party. 

Edited February 20, 2018 by GreatKazu