S06.E07: Can’t Help But Wonder Where I’m Bound

[bilgistic]

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Daphne and Jake perform at school. Deacon and Jessie run into Brad. Alannah’s stage presence grows, creating a division in the band. Gunnar questions his relationship with Alannah. Maddie joins Jonah in Miami, bonds with Twig. Avery visits Juliette.

[Guest]

I must be confused about the level of fame some of these people are suppose to have.  I thought Will, Gunnar, and Avery were all well established musicians in Nashville with extremely successful careers.  Its hard to imagine that these music journalists would completely ignore them to fawn all over a newbie with a handful of performances under her belt.  

[sunflower]

Yeah...okay.  Um, terrible, cliched, we all called that bullshit on the cult. And what bothers me is Showrunners acting all, oh, you Twitter people are complaining about a cult that sort of helps Juliette.  It's like, we know what this is asshole...and your writing sucks.  Now Avery is going to have to waste precious screen time extricating Juliette from this tired crap?  Get out, my brother, get out.  Maybe when they came up with this dumb story they didn't know they were being cancelled, but just terrible, no excuse. For a minute, I was afraid that guard was going to throw Avery in a cell.  I guess I should be relieved.

Did it feel like Deacon was not belittling, but underestimating Daphne's talent?  That Brad guy may be a dick, but he can be a dick and recognize Daphne's talent at the same time, can't he?  It seemed Deacon was annoyed at the "stepdad" mention?  Well, at least they acknowledged Teddy in a half-assed way.  

Gunnar, please.  I wanted you to be bi and secretly in love with Will 

Alannah, bye.  

Will, this story is dumb.  I wanted Gunnar to be in love with you, you sweet "gay cowboy."  

Show, whatever.  You have 9 episodes to fix this mess, especially the Juliette crap. 

Finally, Avery and the actor who plays him deserves so much more than background vocals and tears for his wife, ex-wife, mother of his child, reason for breathing (was that writing or an ad-lib? because that was the best part of the episode).

Edited February 16, 2018 by sunflower

[WhosThatGirl]

This cult storyline is terrible and so, so stupid. 

[bilgistic]

I canNOT with Gunnar. She's just not that into you. Please help Avery raise Cadence or do something else that's actually useful.

Bye, Juliette. Enjoy Bolivia. (I'm sure the show will redeem her at the end. Bleh.)

NO ONE CARES about that douchey kid that Maddie is "dating". We finally established he lives in Miami.

Maddie: "I'm an adult, Dad." Me: Who still lives at home and has never paid a bill.

I'm just here for Deacon.

[WhosThatGirl]

1 hour ago, bilgistic said:

I canNOT with Gunnar. She's just not that into you. Please help Avery raise Cadence or do something else that's actually useful.

Bye, Juliette. Enjoy Bolivia. (I'm sure the show will redeem her at the end. Bleh.)

NO ONE CARES about that douchey kid that Maddie is "dating". We finally established he lives in Miami.

Maddie: "I'm an adult, Dad." Me: Who still lives at home and has never paid a bill.

I'm just here for Deacon.

Yeah.. Deacon is the only one who has a real story at least? And by extension, Daphne kind of does too.

I don’t care about Maddie, as much as I like a teen drama now and then and watch a few, Nashville wasn’t one when I initially signed up for it and the fact that it has turned into one grates.

Juliette and Avery and and the cult as I said.. dumb.

Gunners story is  story I think we’ve seen from him many seasons over. 

Why is Wills story about him having body dysmenorrhea? That is really random to me.  Just like Scarlett suddenly liking horses.They really should have just married Will and Gunner off together.

[sunflower]

15 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

hey really should have just married Will and Gunner off together.

Yes!!!!!!!! that should be the story, instead I don't know what G is doing and W is fainting now?  Doesn't G know about this?  It just feels like bad plot construction and we're headed to the end of the show, not good.

[bybrandy]

So the one part of this show that I liked, Will and Avery and I guess Gunner have a band has totally been taken over by a character we met 3 episodes ago and I could care less about.     Why would they set up the awesome boyband of WAG and then make it all about a character that didn't exist a week ago?   I don't get it.

I know Juliette is in a cult.  I know she's been brainwashed.  But because this is so typically Juliette I really wouldn't have minded if Avery was just done.   If you're Avery and you save Jules from this cult after everything else?  How do you go back to your life and ever stop worrying about the next time something else is going to completely take her away?   I mean it has happened literally every few months since he's known her.

I genuinely like Daphne.  

I like that guy Twig(?).  Having been in a party situation where I was the only person not tripping because I am pretty freaking vanilla this story resonated with me.  But legit.  Like I just am okay with Twig.  He should move to Nashville and Avery can hire him as a nanny and they can be responsible adults for all the children in Nashville because everybody else?  Children.   

Will is drowning and nobody notices.  Avery is drowning and only Deacon cares despite the fact that he's told multiple people he's freaking out about Juliette.   Gunner isn't so much drowning and he's too stupid for words.  And while I don't think they're going there about him being in deep denial about his feelings for Will, I think it is the only thing that might make me think he's vaguely interesting again.   

But this show has spent a whole half season making characters I care about second or third fiddle to characters I don't give a flying fig about.   

[GaT]

OK, at this point they knew the show had been canceled. WTF are they doing? Why are they complicating everything now? How can they possibly wrap it all up in a coherent way? What is wrong with these people?

[luna1122]

The only happy ending I want for Avery, at this point, is for him to be finally done with Juliette. I don't even care if she's brainwashed by a cult. Let her stay there, Avery. Go home, take care of your kid, and find somebody worthy of you. (Just not Scarlett, plz). Jonathan Jackson can sure bring the tears. Pretty pretty boy.

I like Twig, he's adorable and geeky and smart and clearly a better choice for a boyfriend ('shroom shaming notwithstanding) than the guy Maddie is with, but he deserves better than Maddie.

I can't believe the people behind thirtysomething and my so called life are the showrunners for all this.

Edited February 16, 2018 by luna1122

[CrystalMoon]

Yeah, I'm totally over hoping Juliette and Avery get a happy ending. She has abandoned her family twice. And sure, she might be brainwashed now, but she refused to listen to Avery's concerns or even be the slightest bit considerate or responsible for the people in her life. She left without a note and didn't even try to contact Avery or Cadence. Avery cannot let her back into his life. I think I'm actually rooting for them not to get back together now. He might love her, but she's no good for him.

I'm enjoying the band storyline, but I don't get all the Alanna worship or why no one wants to talk to the rest of the band. That's just weird. If I were a reporter, I'd ask Gunnar about the Exes, Will about his solo career, and Avery about Juliette or his career. There's no way reporters would totally ignore the guys like that. Plus, I don't buy that the audiences would be so much more excited about an unknown Alanna than these three hot, talented guys, who used to get all kinds of girls asking for their autographs after shows.

As for the rest of the ep, I'm not interested in Maddie's love life or Deacon's for that matter, though I enjoyed watching Deacon last night with his book and fatherly advice. I am slightly intrigued with Daphne's interest in that singing contest, but only if it doesn't take over the show. 

It's kind of refreshing to not get Scarlett so much this season. SHe's getting the Will and Avery treatment from the showrunners for a change. I wonder if Clare worked out a fewer-episodes-in season-six deal like I suspect Hayden did.

Edited February 16, 2018 by CrystalMoon

[deacondahling]

This show is so fucked. 

I don't give a damn about seeing teenagers spacing on mushrooms. And I totally fail to see how Maddie is an adult. She contributes nothing and is still mooching off Deacon.

I think they are slowing setting things up for Gunnar and Will to get together. The jealousy of Alannah, etc.

As cheesy as this cult crap is, I totally bawled over that scene. The tears in Avery's eyes, everything he's gone through with her, it was just too much. And that poor baby girl.

I would have loved to have seen a morning after or whatever from Deacon and Jessie. After the heartfelt breakdown from few episdoes ago, they totally glossed over it all last night. I'd like to see the after effects. Maybe we still will. 

And no Scarlett this episode. YAY! Even though I just realized that. I'm guessing this episode was filmed when she was on her honeymoon, maybe?

[sunflower]

12 minutes ago, deacondahling said:

I think they are slowing setting things up for Gunnar and Will to get together. The jealousy of Alannah, etc.

Oh, I hope this is true! Because it just works and the set-up is so there.  I don't want to see Gunnar and Scarlet reunion, please.  Avery/Juliette: I see them back together by end of series, but it will feel rushed because they only have 9 episodes left total.  

[WhosThatGirl]

If they actually have Gunner and Will get together, I can forgive them for what they are doing now.

[zabooky]

This show is now complete and utter garbage. I'm done. Don't have to energy to yet again list all the ways none of these story lines make sense or are remotely interesting to true longstanding fans of the show. The way they have ruined this show after bringing it back from the 'dead' is laughable and a travesty all at once. They should have just left us with season 4.... plane crash and all. A deceased Juliette is infinitely better than this * expletive expletive expletive * . Good luck to this show runner, writers and directors as far as finding another gig. What a talentless bunch. Even with some stellar acting talent on deck, they can't manage to get people to care about these plots. Not watching anymore. Don't give a shit......but also truly disappointed. SMH. 

[WhosThatGirl]

1 hour ago, zabooky said:

This show is now complete and utter garbage. I'm done. Don't have to energy to yet again list all the ways none of these story lines make sense or are remotely interesting to true longstanding fans of the show. The way they have ruined this show after bringing it back from the 'dead' is laughable and a travesty all at once. They should have just left us with season 4.... plane crash and all. A deceased Juliette is infinitely better than this * expletive expletive expletive * . Good luck to this show runner, writers and directors as far as finding another gig. What a talentless bunch. Even with some stellar acting talent on deck, they can't manage to get people to care about these plots. Not watching anymore. Don't give a shit......but also truly disappointed. SMH. 

Yeah.. this season is a less, even if this wasn’t the final season, where are these stories coming from? A lot of them just fell randomly. Like Will suddenly has problems with his body? I.. what? That’s the most random thing ever. Especially since this season seems to be giving it a weight as if it’s been around for a while.. he’s taking steroids and all that.

[tennisgurl]

What the hell is happening in this show? I just...I have no clue. What is the point of this stupid cult? Why are we doing this "Juliette ditches her family and has to be saved when she fucks her life up" thing again? We`re done this story! Yeah now shes brainwashed, but I cant even feel that bad for her, because this is SUCH typical Juliette at this point, and she continued to not listen to her husbands excellent points before this even got worse. She gets engages in soul searching, ditches her family, blames Avery for existing, then comes back. At this point, as much as I used to Juliette/Avery, I just want the poor guy to get out of this. Even a new rape backstory and cult brainwashing cant get me behind them anymore, 

Speaking of "what the hell is happening?", how did they take my favorite subplot, the Avery/Gunnar/Will mutual bromance, and turn it into soap opera crap. Alanna is a good singer, but she has no point on this show besides becoming the Gwen Stefanni to the guys No Doubt. This whole thing is a contrived mess, and I cant stand it. Why is everyone drooling over this chick whos had three performances? Why the boring Gunnar romance drama? Why is poor Avery constantly stuck playing mom to everyone in his damn life (I swear, his baby daughter is the least needy person he knows)? Why the Will and the roid rage stuff? What is the POINT?!?!

The one plot I do like is the Deacon plot, and, by extension, Daphne and Jessie. I loved Deacon talking to Jessie's son about his (odd) performance, both times he talked to him. He seemed so happy to have Deacon say he liked his music, even if it clearly isn't Deacons thing, and he doesn't really "get" it. Its a really nice plot, that actually involved music, and everyone is acting like an actual person. Plus, Daphne is a really good performer, and I liked her song. 

Maddies plot is...ok. I like Twig, but he seems too stable for Maddie. It isn't an awful plot, but it isn't super interesting. But at least it has something to do with freaking music, and not steroids and cults.

[WhosThatGirl]

Seriously, the only redeeming thing that can come from this season is Will and Gunner realizing their love for each other. But since this is the final season, I foresee the show possibly reuniting Gunner and Scarlett. I could be wrong but it seems like something they might do in the final five minutes of this show.

[CrystalMoon]

And why is Avery never front and center in the band? I thought the three guys were all equal members, but it seems like it's always Alanna with either Will or Gunnar. I kind of hope she jumps ship to Brad's label and the guys can go back to being the entire band again.

[slasherboy]

15 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Why is Wills story about him having body dysmenorrhea? That is really random to me.  Just like Scarlett suddenly liking horses.They really should have just married Will and Gunner off together.

I think you mean body dysmorphia, don't you?  This is body dysmenorrhea: Dysmenorrhea, also known as painful periods, or menstrual cramps, is pain during menstruation. Its usual onset occurs around the time that menstruation begins. ... It is more common among those with heavy periods, irregular periods, whose periods started before twelve years of age, or who have a low body weight.

 

While I enjoy all the talk and wishes for a Will/?Gunnar love story, how about a Will/Avery love story?  Gunnar can babysit Cadence while they make sweet, sweet love.  Maybe?

[WhosThatGirl]

2 minutes ago, slasherboy said:

I think you mean body dysmorphia, don't you?  This is body dysmenorrhea: Dysmenorrhea, also known as painful periods, or menstrual cramps, is pain during menstruation. Its usual onset occurs around the time that menstruation begins. ... It is more common among those with heavy periods, irregular periods, whose periods started before twelve years of age, or who have a low body weight.

 

While I enjoy all the talk and wishes for a Will/?Gunnar love story, how about a Will/Avery love story?  Gunnar can babysit Cadence while they make sweet, sweet love.  Maybe?

Yeah.. sorry I’m using my tablet and auto corrects before I even finish my thoughts ;)

Also.. the love story should really be Will, Avery, and Gunner.  I was so excited when they had them boy banding it in the first couple episodes only to add in some random girl so Gunner could get a love interest? Who doesn’t even really like him?  Which is also a plot he had a few seasons ago when he was non exclusive with someone but realized he liked her more than she liked him. 

Edited February 16, 2018 by WhosThatGirl

[NYGirl]

I just can't with Maddie.  The hate was so strong that if she saved 100 babies' lives at this point I'd still hate her!  I hate her hair now and I hate her smile!

I love Daphne's voice.  I've already d/l the song from last week's show and I'm tempted to get the one from last night.  She's such a talented girl.

I like Deacon's storyline.  I do like Jessie.  However her ex looks like he's wearing a disguise wig with glasses and nose.

As far as the boy band I have no words.  I too thought they were pretty popular to begin with and now they are just background singers just for this girl?  Gunther...same old storyline.  Juliette..same old storyline.  But my question here is does she even love Avery?  She's always searching for something more.  She's not happy just living with him and the baby.

I'm ready for the show to end.  I don't look forward to it anymore :(

[KaveDweller]

23 hours ago, RogerDodger said:

I must be confused about the level of fame some of these people are suppose to have.  I thought Will, Gunnar, and Avery were all well established musicians in Nashville with extremely successful careers.  Its hard to imagine that these music journalists would completely ignore them to fawn all over a newbie with a handful of performances under her belt.  

Did I misunderstand, or were they suggesting that Jessie's ex had been encouraging reporters to talk to Alana? 

I also felt like Alana had a bit of a personality change this episode, but we really haven't seen enough of her to judge that.

13 hours ago, CrystalMoon said:

Yeah, I'm totally over hoping Juliette and Avery get a happy ending. She has abandoned her family twice. And sure, she might be brainwashed now, but she refused to listen to Avery's concerns or even be the slightest bit considerate or responsible for the people in her life. She left without a note and didn't even try to contact Avery or Cadence. Avery cannot let her back into his life. I think I'm actually rooting for them not to get back together now. He might love her, but she's no good for him.

 

I've always liked Juliette and wanted her to get second/third chances, but the cult thing is making me not even care. But she seemed really out of it in that scene with Avery, absolutely no trace of herself. And Avery has done nothing but support her, so I don't get why she would want to end things with him even if she is questioning other things in her life.

I was glad she wasn't planning to totally abandon her daughter again, but seems odd she was thinking of Cadence coming to live with her when she also wasn't even going to return Avery's calls. Did she think she could hire someone to bring her kid down without having to talk to Avery herself?

23 hours ago, sunflower said:

Did it feel like Deacon was not belittling, but underestimating Daphne's talent?  That Brad guy may be a dick, but he can be a dick and recognize Daphne's talent at the same time, can't he?  It seemed Deacon was annoyed at the "stepdad" mention?  Well, at least they acknowledged Teddy in a half-assed way.  

 

It was kind of weird how he referred to having big plans for her when she was ready. Has Daphne ever done anything to indicate she isn't ready to do something with her voice? She has always been eager to perform, she was upset the media didn't pay attention to her after that tribute to Rayna, she was really excited back when Rayna tried to give her and Maddie a joint record deal.  And she is obviously interested in this singing contest. I get him thinking she's too young to seriously pursue a music career, but it was a weird thing to say.

Edited February 17, 2018 by KaveDweller

[ch1]

The only happy ending for Avery at this point is for him to just walk away. Avery is my favorite character and I just cannot with him always being an after thought to Juliette.  This terrible cult story is just the nail in the coffin.  He needs to take his kid and get out of dodge.  

[J-Man]

The actor who plays Trig is very natural. I'm enjoying his performance, even if I really don't care that much about the storyline.

I know many Americans are geographically-challenged, but having Avery show us (along with Cadence) where Bolivia was located on the globe should've been enough. But then they had the sign on the cult's building read "Bolivian Campus, South America." Do we think that the people who are entering the building haven't yet figured out they're in South America? 

[dbell1]

St. Juliette of the Bolivian campus just needs to be slapped. She'll "facetime" the daughter she keeps abandoning? Run Avery and take Cadence with you.

I'm over this show shoving random characters onto my screen. Alanna needs to go. Jonah needs to go. I wanted WAG, not some random free spirit taking over their scenes. Ugh.

Brad really looks like he escaped from the crazy child beaters academy. Can he twirl his mustache next time he's on screen?

And when did Daphne become an idiot? She knows Jake's dad is an abusive ahole, she's seen what happened with her sister and shady producers, and Teddy selling them off to Jeff. Guess the "writers" are setting up a "Deacon saves the day" story.

[CrystalMoon]

4 minutes ago, dbell1 said:

St. Juliette of the Bolivian campus just needs to be slapped. She'll "facetime" the daughter she keeps abandoning? Run Avery and take Cadence with you.

I don't understand how she could say she wasn't abandoning her daughter. If Avery hadn't flown down there, she wouldn't have contacted him or Cadence. And how did she expect Cadence to come live with her? By magic? She didn't even ask how Cadence was. Ugh. Avery, keep your daughter away from her.

[Emma C]

At least we get a week off without Scarlett and her horrible, horrible "accent", and amazing ability to change the lives of others.

 

There will never be a Will and Gunner romance because Gunner is NOT GAY. Straight men do not want to date other men. This is a biological fact.

 

14 hours ago, J-Man said:

I know many Americans are geographically-challenged, but having Avery show us (along with Cadence) where Bolivia was located on the globe should've been enough. But then they had the sign on the cult's building read "Bolivian Campus, South America." Do we think that the people who are entering the building haven't yet figured out they're in South America? 

^^^^ This is hilarious and so true!!!!!

[ch1]

2 hours ago, CrystalMoon said:

I don't understand how she could say she wasn't abandoning her daughter. If Avery hadn't flown down there, she wouldn't have contacted him or Cadence. And how did she expect Cadence to come live with her? By magic? She didn't even ask how Cadence was. Ugh. Avery, keep your daughter away from her.

And did she really expect Avery to just hand her over?  What was he supposed to do?  Fly to Bolivia every other weekend to see the kid that he’s basically been mother and father to since she was born while Juliette is dealing with some kind of drama?  So stupid and it irritates me that the writers aren’t making Avery more angry.  He should just be done at this point.

[notcreative enough]

I don't have kids and no nothing about child custody and parental rights.

Can someone break down Juliette and her parental rights to me. So in season 4(?) she signed away her right and have Avery full control over Cadence. So did she petition to get her rights back or is Avery just not putting up a fight because they got back together and let's Juliette be a mom. He keeps referring to her as his wife/ex wife/ mother of his child. If you legally give someone/something up don't you need to go through legal channels to get it back. If Avery and Juliette got remarried would she have the rights of say a step mother or would she get her right back automatically? 

[Cyranetta]

At least this episode had music with some of the liveliness I liked in the first season. Maddie and what-his-face sing in kind of a dreary way, but Daphne's got some spirit, and the guys+Alana can be nicely rabble-rousing.

I do miss the kind of gumption (even though at times misguided) that Hayden Pannettiere is so good at portraying. At least Juliette's arcs used to have energy.

[seacliffsal]

Whether or not Avery already has full custody, he should ensure that he has full custody and never look back.  Secure his portion of their shared wealth before Juliette gives everything to the cult.  

Jessie (of Deacon and Jessie) just reminds me of a nervous rabbit.  She always seems a bit loss and is always a bit 'hectic.'  She would tire me out with her endless nervousness.  I did like Deacon's interactions with her son.

Maddie is looking weird.  When they were in the car that the fans surrounded, her teeth totally looked like Ross' teeth in the teeth whitening episode of Friends.  I, like others, don't understand her whole 'I'm an adult' spiel.  He would never do it, but Deacon should just say already and help her move out.

I so don't need a rehash of Maddie's ill-advised career by seeing it replayed in Daphne.

[bybrandy]

3 hours ago, notcreative enough said:

I don't have kids and no nothing about child custody and parental rights.

Can someone break down Juliette and her parental rights to me. So in season 4(?) she signed away her right and have Avery full control over Cadence. So did she petition to get her rights back or is Avery just not putting up a fight because they got back together and let's Juliette be a mom. He keeps referring to her as his wife/ex wife/ mother of his child. If you legally give someone/something up don't you need to go through legal channels to get it back. If Avery and Juliette got remarried would she have the rights of say a step mother or would she get her right back automatically? 

Theoretically she'd have to petition to get her parental rights back.  But it would have to become an issue between them for it to ever come up.   If Juliette ever tried to take Cadence it could be a thing.  If Avery walked away and tok Cadence with him it could be a thing.  But there aren't a lot of situations where people assume that the people listed on the birth certificate are not the legal parents.   

Even now when you need the other parents permission to do something with the kid (which you totally didn't used to need) Avery would have to prove Juliette didn't have parental rights if he wanted to take Cadence out of the country without Juliette's permission.   If Avery was sick and somebody needed to make a medical decision Juliette would say "I'm her mother" and nobody would ask for any proof.  

[bilgistic]

I've mused in this forum about Lennon Stella's (Maddie's) new, weird mouth. I just spent an embarrassing amount of time looking through her Instagram account. Her teeth look the same since she turned 16, at least (I got tired of scrolling), and yeah, they are bleached to high hell. If she hasn't had lip injections, I'd be surprised. Her upper lip (at least) has increased in fullness over the years. She didn't need fillers, but whatever. I just hate how so many young women think Kardashian fakeness is something to which they should aspire.

The first image is from February 7. The second is from yesterday.

I need a hobby.

[MadeleineElster]

I'm trying to decide exactly when Nashville jumped the shark.  It was such a great series for the first year or two.  Lots of drama, interesting characters, over-the-top, but still fun.  Now the fun is gone and characters are just being dragged through ridiculous story lines.  I think the official "jump the shark" moment was when Connie Britton left the series.  Her character was an anchor (starting with her rivalry with Juliette and her romance with Deacon) for all the other characters and plots on the show.  Without Rayna, the center is gone.  Anyone have other thoughts on this? 

[Ailianna]

3 hours ago, bybrandy said:

Theoretically she'd have to petition to get her parental rights back.  But it would have to become an issue between them for it to ever come up.   If Juliette ever tried to take Cadence it could be a thing.  If Avery walked away and took Cadence with him it could be a thing.  But there aren't a lot of situations where people assume that the people listed on the birth certificate are not the legal parents.   

Even now when you need the other parents permission to do something with the kid (which you totally didn't used to need) Avery would have to prove Juliette didn't have parental rights if he wanted to take Cadence out of the country without Juliette's permission.   If Avery was sick and somebody needed to make a medical decision Juliette would say "I'm her mother" and nobody would ask for any proof.  

If Juliette gave up or had her parental rights terminated, they are gone.  Now, yes, most people would not question that. but Avery has every legal right to take Cadence away, move to Alaska or Timbuktu, or refuse to allow Juliette to see her in any way.  That's what it means.  You have no rights regarding the child.

And you definitely don't need "the other parent's permission" to take a child out of the country.  I've taken my niece out of the country twice, once with her mom and once without (at 7 and 9 years old), and they never asked about her father's permission.  In fact, while my dad was with us the first time and handed over the paperwork we had (her birth certificate and a note from her mom saying we could take her--just her mom though), the second time, they never asked for paperwork.  We could totally have been stealing someone else's child and neither entering nor leaving the US did anyone do more than ask us to verbally say she was my sister's child.

I'm up for Avery liquidating the Barkley portion of the fortune (and Cadence's portion) and never having contact with Juliette again--especially after she basically blamed him specifically for everything that has ever gone wrong in her life.

[kittygirl]

Forget about Juliette being in a cult. The damn showrunners must be in a cult that has stolen all their brain power and creative juices. Why else are they spewing this crap that's taking up airtime? Just give us the guys singing , Deacon singing too. Daphne singing even. The gospel choir from last year singing. 

WhyTF did we lose the music for idiots nobody like? I'm ready for it to go. I have the music from early seasons downloaded. Don't need the throwaway characters and storylines. Just need WAG, Deacon, few others who can sing. 

Wasn't it about music, singers, in Nashville.?

[bybrandy]

6 hours ago, Ailianna said:

And you definitely don't need "the other parent's permission" to take a child out of the country.  I've taken my niece out of the country twice, once with her mom and once without (at 7 and 9 years old), and they never asked about her father's permission.  In fact, while my dad was with us the first time and handed over the paperwork we had (her birth certificate and a note from her mom saying we could take her--just her mom though), the second time, they never asked for paperwork.  We could totally have been stealing someone else's child and neither entering nor leaving the US did anyone do more than ask us to verbally say she was my sister's child.

Apparently enforcement is an issue.   But you're supposed to have the other parents permission to travel internationally if you do not have sole legal custody.   And we were asked about the mother's signature when we travelled with my nephew last year.   Weird.  Google says it depends on where you are flying from and to.  

[Sake614]

So Maddie’s new boyfriend invites her to his home in Miami. They perform together at his concert and the next day he flies off to wherever (LA I presume) to audition for an acting gig. And she stays behind in what is basically a frat house????? How very ‘adult’ of her. And how old is this Jonah kid supposed to be? He looks 16.  

(Sigh) I really thought Daphne was the better of the two sisters. Now it looks like we’re in store for a rehash of Maddie’s story. WTF are the show runners smoking? Is is how they end the series? By trashing it all to hell?

[Ailianna]

6 hours ago, bybrandy said:

Apparently enforcement is an issue.   But you're supposed to have the other parents permission to travel internationally if you do not have sole legal custody.   And we were asked about the mother's signature when we travelled with my nephew last year.   Weird.  Google says it depends on where you are flying from and to.  

We drove across the Canadian border.  There was never anything about her other parent asked, even informally.

[bilgistic]

16 hours ago, MadeleineElster said:

I'm trying to decide exactly when Nashville jumped the shark.  It was such a great series for the first year or two.  Lots of drama, interesting characters, over-the-top, but still fun.  Now the fun is gone and characters are just being dragged through ridiculous story lines.  I think the official "jump the shark" moment was when Connie Britton left the series.  Her character was an anchor (starting with her rivalry with Juliette and her romance with Deacon) for all the other characters and plots on the show.  Without Rayna, the center is gone.  Anyone have other thoughts on this? 

I was definitely sad when the show was going to be cancelled on ABC, but in retrospect, I think they should've wrapped up the storylines in a satisfying way, expecting it to be the end of the series. Five seasons (back then) is still a good run. Many of the storylines have meandered (Scarlett/Will/Gunnar/Avery/Deacon/Daphne/Highway 65/whatever the investor's name was) and/or been trainwrecks (Juliette/Maddie) since the restart and move to CMT.

I just got that the guys' band name, "The Last Highways", could also refer to the label, Highway 65.

I absentmindedly sing "Wrong Song" and remember how good the show was back then.

[Madding crowd]

I do not want Will and Gunnar to end up together-Gunnar has never indicated he was gay or bi. I also think that they can have a friendship without it being sexual. I also don't believe the media and public would be all over this unknown addition to the band, and ignore the three hot guys that have been around for awhile.

Maddie looks and acts so much older than her boyfriend. She is rushing to age herself and it makes her look like she is 25 dating a 16 year old. I did like the friend-Twig, but he also looks young.

The fact that Juliette is comfortable with only seeing her toddler on Skype makes me sad. I also don't buy that princess Juliette is content to sit in a monk like room and paint walls-her talent is being wasted. I expect something with happen and Avery will come to her rescue although I wish he wouldn't. I liked Scarlett when she was singing with Gunnar-they were beautiful together. But she used to be light and fun and now is depressed and depressing. This is one of my favorite shows and I am sad it is ending on such a note. 

[Sake614]

2 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

she used to be light and fun

 

She did? I guess I must’ve blinked and missed it because I’ve never seen her as light or fun.

[Madding crowd]

I thought she was the first season-when she cut her hair she changed. 

[WhosThatGirl]

1 hour ago, Madding crowd said:

I thought she was the first season-when she cut her hair she changed. 

Actually I think it was season 2 when she became dark and depressing, when her mom first arrived on the show and it brought all of her depression up. Then she became way serious and judging everyone.

[Madding crowd]

Yes that’s what I said-she was fun and sweet in season one

[Daltrey]

On ‎2018‎-‎02‎-‎16 at 5:15 AM, luna1122 said:

I can't believe the people behind thirtysomething and my so called life are the showrunners for all this.

Really? Because I can. They've taken virtually all the Nashville out of this show and replaced it with a pastiche of those two shows minus all the quality and nuance those shows were known for. In spite of their pedigree, or perhaps because of it, this was my greatest fear when they were announced as showrunners.

[Daltrey]

On ‎2018‎-‎02‎-‎17 at 10:40 AM, Emma C said:

At least we get a week off without Scarlett and her horrible, horrible "accent", and amazing ability to change the lives of others.

 

There will never be a Will and Gunner romance because Gunner is NOT GAY. Straight men do not want to date other men. This is a biological fact.

1. Honestly, I'd prefer Scarlett over the stupid cult BS or the Jonah Bieber character - at least they have her doing something new and different for a change.

 

2. I have to agree. Gunner has never even remotely come across as gay; even his every interaction with Will has never been more than complete acceptance and brotherly love. I don't begrudge any of you your fantasies and fan shipping, but if they have Will and Gunner end up a couple it would more ridiculous and unrealistic than everything else combined this season. 

[Daltrey]

On ‎2018‎-‎02‎-‎17 at 9:05 PM, kittygirl said:

Forget about Juliette being in a cult. The damn showrunners must be in a cult that has stolen all their brain power and creative juices. Why else are they spewing this crap that's taking up airtime? Just give us the guys singing , Deacon singing too. Daphne singing even. The gospel choir from last year singing. 

WhyTF did we lose the music for idiots nobody like? I'm ready for it to go. I have the music from early seasons downloaded. Don't need the throwaway characters and storylines. Just need WAG, Deacon, few others who can sing. 

Wasn't it about music, singers, in Nashville.?

You joke, but I was seriously(.....well, half seriously)wondering if the showrunners are scientologists and pushing a thinly veiled agenda, since they've apparently called out twitter users for complaining about Juliette seeking out and getting the help she needs. ...Uh, WTF?! Yeah, ok. Sure.   It's sad...I could have sworn the promos I saw for this season said Juliette was back to her feisty old self.

 

Agree with everything else about the loss of music; we used to get 2-3 new songs per episode, almost. Now these famous artists occasionally only dabble it seems. What a joke....too bad no one's laughing.

[piratewench]

7 hours ago, Daltrey said:

 

Agree with everything else about the loss of music; we used to get 2-3 new songs per episode, almost. Now these famous artists occasionally only dabble it seems. What a joke....too bad no one's laughing.

We’re still getting, on average, almost 4 songs per episode, and I haven’t downloaded them all. That’s just this season.  So the music’s been there.